---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/04/06: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:42 PM - Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (Ray Mansfield) 2. 07:22 PM - Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (John Vormbaum) 3. 08:37 PM - Fw: 500A Cover and rudder brace (YOURTCFG@aol.com) 4. 09:09 PM - Re: Fw: 500A Cover and rudder brace (Alan Kucheck) 5. 09:32 PM - Re: Fw: 500A Cover and rudder brace (Tylor Hall) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:42:21 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfield" Subject: Commander-List: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfield" Hello, I am trying to find a fuel cap for a Commander 680 FLP. I have a part number, "416-67" however I'm not sure if it's the right cap for my plane. The cap on the plane I fly is about 21/2" diameter with a zeus-fastener type screw head in the center. There is no latch to flip up. This "zeus fastner" connects with the flap mechanism in the top of the tank. The cap fits very flush with the top of the wing. The cap spring mechanism which holds pressure on the zeus connection is damaged. I had the parts guy at the local airport look through his parts computer but have not seen a cap like mine pictured. Even so, the price for those that had no picture and might have been the correct cap were asking $400,...a very high price for such a simple device. Does anyone out there know where I can get one. Thanks, Ray Mansfield N91ES Note: This plane may be up for sale soon. Not sure of asking price yet, there's a picture of this plane on this web site. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:22:29 PM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" Hi Ray, If you're going to pay *that* much for an original fuel cap, you might as well pay a couple bucks more and get this cap that I just had installed on my airplane: http://www.commander-aero.com/caps.htm The folks at Commander Aero are great, too! If you want to scrounge an original cap and maybe save some $$, try Morris Kernick here in CA, Mason Chevailler (who posts on this list) or Jack Chappell or Harry Merritt, both in FL I think. I have Morris' contact info, 321-403-8813 but you'll have to depend on someone else here on the list for numbers etc. of the others. Good luck, /John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Mansfield" Subject: Commander-List: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Ray Mansfield" > > Hello, > > I am trying to find a fuel cap for a Commander 680 FLP. I have a part number, "416-67" however I'm not sure if it's the right cap for my plane. The cap on the plane I fly is about 21/2" diameter with a zeus-fastener type screw head in the center. There is no latch to flip up. This "zeus fastner" connects with the flap mechanism in the top of the tank. The cap fits very flush with the top of the wing. The cap spring mechanism which holds pressure on the zeus connection is damaged. > > I had the parts guy at the local airport look through his parts computer but have not seen a cap like mine pictured. Even so, the price for those that had no picture and might have been the correct cap were asking $400,...a very high price for such a simple device. > > Does anyone out there know where I can get one. > > Thanks, > > Ray Mansfield > N91ES > > Note: This plane may be up for sale soon. Not sure of asking price yet, there's a picture of this plane on this web site. > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:37:28 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: 500A Cover and rudder brace --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com From: Craig Lundborg Subject: 500A Cover and rudder brace --0-1153313962-1136433975=:61579 Hi gang, Can anyone direct me to a rudder stop and a canvas cover ....I am now the guy that is spotted at airports steering erradically and looking a little goofy trying to taxi in a straight line...how do you guys do it? Love my new bird and can't wait for the training time to pass so its pilot will look as good as the Commander. Craig Lundborg --0-1153313962-1136433975=:61579 Hi gang, Can anyone direct me to a rudder stop and a canvas cover ....I am now the guy that is spotted at airports steering erradically and looking a little goofy trying to taxi in a straight line...how do you guys do it? Love my new bird and can't wait for the training time to pass so its pilot will look as good as the Commander. Craig Lundborg --0-1153313962-1136433975=:61579-- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:09:33 PM PST US From: "Alan Kucheck" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Fwd: 500A Cover and rudder brace --> Commander-List message posted by: "Alan Kucheck" Craig: Congrats on your new acquisition! Commander Aero has rudder gust locks, although a number of owners have fashioned their own. Bruce's Custom Covers does canvas covers for your bird: http://www.aircraftcovers.com/ I looked at doing this but opted instead for heat shields from Cunningham: http://www.cunninghamcovers.com/ They make all the difference in Southern California heat. If you have any 500A specific questions, I may be able to help. Feel free to contact me any time. Mine is a Colemill Conversion, 1962 #1256-80. You can see more about mine at: http://akucheck.squarespace.com/ or contact me at: akucheck at gmail dot com Alan -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: 500A Cover and rudder brace --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com From: Craig Lundborg Subject: 500A Cover and rudder brace --0-1153313962-1136433975=:61579 Hi gang, Can anyone direct me to a rudder stop and a canvas cover ....I am now the guy that is spotted at airports steering erradically and looking a little goofy trying to taxi in a straight line...how do you guys do it? Love my new bird and can't wait for the training time to pass so its pilot will look as good as the Commander. Craig Lundborg --0-1153313962-1136433975=:61579 Hi gang, Can anyone direct me to a rudder stop and a canvas cover ....I am now the guy that is spotted at airports steering erradically and looking a little goofy trying to taxi in a straight line...how do you guys do it? Love my new bird and can't wait for the training time to pass so its pilot will look as good as the Commander. Craig Lundborg --0-1153313962-1136433975=:61579-- -- -- ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:32:12 PM PST US From: Tylor Hall Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fwd: 500A Cover and rudder brace --> Commander-List message posted by: Tylor Hall Craig, The answer for control locks is again Commander Aero. http://www.commander-aero.com/locks.htm They have both internal and external. Some have made their own with some wood, a stick and a rubber chicken. Welcome to Flying and driving a Twin Commander. Anyone can fly a twin commander, but it takes about 100 hours to learn how to drive one. When I checked out in a Twin Commander, they forgot to tell me how to really drive it. The nose wheel on the short body commander has very little weight on it. It takes locking you knees and using your toes to lightly push on the upper part of the rudder peddles. It is a light touch to steer the nose wheel with out getting into the breaks. In a strong cross wind, she will want to weather vane into the wind. It take lots of differential power to make it go the direction you want it to go. Heavy on the up wind engine. I almost lost it into the weeds on a strong cross wind. I was turning left and it went right as it weather vaned on me. I did take it out on a windy day on a large ramp to just play with it, until I got the hang of steering and differential power. I was in Garden City, KS and had to taxi out to the only runway in winds that were steady at 25kts with gusts to 35 at 70 degrees to the runway. Once I got the differential power going and the speed up, it was easy to handle. Upwind power to get the speed up and once you get 40mph, it is all rudder and forget the steering. Have fun with your new bird. Tylor Hall > --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com > > > Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2006 20:06:15 -0800 (PST) > From: Craig Lundborg > Subject: 500A Cover and rudder brace > To: YourTCFG@aol.com > > > --0-1153313962-1136433975=:61579 > > Hi gang, > Can anyone direct me to a rudder stop and a canvas > cover ....I am now the guy that is spotted at airports steering > erradically and looking a little goofy trying to taxi in a straight > line...how do you guys do it? > Love my new bird and can't wait for the training time to > pass so its pilot will look as good as the Commander. > > Craig Lundborg > > --0-1153313962-1136433975=:61579 > > Hi gang, Can anyone direct me to a rudder stop and a canvas > cover ....I am now the guy that is spotted at airports steering > erradically and looking a little goofy trying to taxi in a straight > line...how do you guys do it? Love my new bird and can't wait for > the training time to pass so its pilot will look as good as the > Commander. Craig Lundborg > > --0-1153313962-1136433975=:61579-- > >