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1. 05:35 AM - Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (N395V)
2. 09:59 AM - Re: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (YOURTCFG@AOL.COM)
3. 10:42 AM - GSO-480 Overhaul (captseth)
4. 11:52 AM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Chris Schuermann)
5. 12:10 PM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (captseth)
6. 12:18 PM - Re: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Chris Schuermann)
7. 12:35 PM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul ()
8. 12:41 PM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Bill Bow)
9. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (Russell Legg)
10. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (skyhawkC-172@comcast.net)
11. 05:03 PM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (captseth)
12. 05:16 PM - Re: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Bill Bow)
13. 05:59 PM - Re: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Allen Reed)
14. 08:42 PM - Re: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <N395V@direcway.com>
Life is good. Like you I am approaching retirement and trying to figure out what
to do and how to survive financially and still fly.
I now fly a homebuilt and live on the rocket and RV forums. This new format really
provides easy access to all the forums so I thought I would drop in and provide
some comic relief/greif for awhile.
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket Driver
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 1/11/2006 7:36:27 AM Central Standard Time,
N395V@direcway.com writes:
so I thought I would drop in and provide some comic relief/greif for awhile
Great to hear. I look forward to you sharing your pearls of wisdom with the
group!! Fly safe. jb
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| Subject: | GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" <capt_seth@yahoo.com>
Anyone know what factory rebuilts are running these days? Any problems getting
parts? Thanks...
S
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| Subject: | Re: GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
captseth wrote:
> Anyone know what factory (GSO-480) rebuilts are running these days?
Sure hope you're joking or you're going to be in for a terrible
disapointment....
Hit the junk yards and try to find parts that are less worn out than
what you've got.....
cs
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| Subject: | Re: GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" <capt_seth@yahoo.com>
So you're saying that if you pop a jug or trash a gearbox lycoming doesn't stock
parts? Not entirely unexpected, but I am trying to determine the viability of
this powerplant. Of course, if you have to overhaul the thing and you can't
get a piston pin that you need, all is for naught.
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| Subject: | Re: GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
captseth wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" <capt_seth@yahoo.com>
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> So you're saying that if you pop a jug or trash a gearbox lycoming doesn't stock
parts?
Unfortunatly, that's the case. Lycoming no longer supports many of the
oldest engines including the radials and GO series. There are a few
shops left that will overhaul them, but there are fewer every day. We
used to have several very good shops in the tulsa area that specialized
in geared lycs, but they've all dropped those over the last 10 years or
so due to lack of parts. Once in a while you can find some NOS parts,
but mostly you're just looking at "is it better than what I've got"
these days. Central Cylinder still does quite a bit of work on those
engines and probably has more parts than anyone. You might give George
Czarneki a call and see what they can do. Bottom line is that you're
not going to get a "new limits" quality overhaul or many new parts.
bummer - I think that if Lyc had kept progressing on the GSO-480 that it
could have been the engine of choice for many modern designs too....
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
$22,000.00 in ft lauderdale.includes mags harnesses
Air Mark
Harry
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From: "Chris Schuermann" <cschuerm@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul
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>> Anyone know what factory (GSO-480) rebuilts are running these days?
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> Hit the junk yards and try to find parts that are less worn out than
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| Subject: | GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Se habla Espaniol???
Guermo
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avtec2@bellsouth.net
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:33 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul
--> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
$22,000.00 in ft lauderdale.includes mags harnesses
Air Mark
Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Schuermann" <cschuerm@cox.net>
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:53 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul
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>> Anyone know what factory (GSO-480) rebuilts are running these days?
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> Hit the junk yards and try to find parts that are less worn out than
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
Capt Milt!
Great to catch you on the email string again!
When are you visiting the Topend of Oz?
Best regards from Oz
Russell
On 11/1/06 11:05 PM, "N395V" <N395V@direcway.com> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <N395V@direcway.com>
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> Life is good. Like you I am approaching retirement and trying to figure out
> what to do and how to survive financially and still fly.
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> I now fly a homebuilt and live on the rocket and RV forums. This new format
> really provides easy access to all the forums so I thought I would drop in and
> provide some comic relief/greif for awhile.
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> Milt
> N395V
> F1 Rocket Driver
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap |
--> Commander-List message posted by: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net
anyone have knowledge of:
where is this Twin Commander?
"1/2 of a tough bird"
@
twincommanderflyer.com
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From: Russell Legg <rlegg@austarnet.com.au>
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> Capt Milt!
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anyone have knowledge of:
<IMG class=inlineimg title=Question alt=Question src="http://www.twincommanderflyer.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif" border=0> where is this Twin Commander?
<EM> "1/2 of a tough bird"</EM>
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twincommanderflyer.com
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From: Russell Legg rlegg@austarnet.com.au
-- Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg <RLEGG@AUSTARNET.COM.AU>
Capt Milt!
Great to catch you on the email string again!
When are you visiting the Topend of Oz?
Best regards from Oz
Russell
On 11/1/06 11:05 PM, "N395V" <N395V@DIRECWAY.COM>wrote:
-- Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <N395V@DIRECWAY.COM>
Life is good. Like you I am approaching retirement and trying to figure out
what to do and how to survive financially and still fly.
I now fly a homebuilt and live on the rocket and RV forums. This new format
really provides e
asy access to all the forums so I thought I would drop in and
provide some comic relief/greif for awhile.
--------
Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket Driver
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2838#2838
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/dcp_1184_127.jpg
or to browse
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| Subject: | Re: GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" <capt_seth@yahoo.com>
bowing74(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> Se habla Espaniol???
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> Guermo
Un Pocito.
Anyway, thanks guys, that was helpful.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3089#3089
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| Subject: | Re: GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
You may need more that pocito.
bilbo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of captseth
Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:03 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul
--> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" <capt_seth@yahoo.com>
bowing74(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> Se habla Espaniol???
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> Guermo
Un Pocito.
Anyway, thanks guys, that was helpful.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3089#3089
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| Subject: | Re: GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Allen Reed" <allen_reed2@hotmail.com>
hey gang,,I saw a pair of gso 480'S,i think I can find the add,will be right
back with ya!! Big AL
>From: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul
>Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:18:56 -0600
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>--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann <cschuerm@cox.net>
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>captseth wrote:
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" <capt_seth@yahoo.com>
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> > So you're saying that if you pop a jug or trash a gearbox lycoming
>doesn't stock parts?
>
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>Unfortunatly, that's the case. Lycoming no longer supports many of the
>oldest engines including the radials and GO series. There are a few
>shops left that will overhaul them, but there are fewer every day. We
>used to have several very good shops in the tulsa area that specialized
>in geared lycs, but they've all dropped those over the last 10 years or
>so due to lack of parts. Once in a while you can find some NOS parts,
>but mostly you're just looking at "is it better than what I've got"
>these days. Central Cylinder still does quite a bit of work on those
>engines and probably has more parts than anyone. You might give George
>Czarneki a call and see what they can do. Bottom line is that you're
>not going to get a "new limits" quality overhaul or many new parts.
>
>bummer - I think that if Lyc had kept progressing on the GSO-480 that it
>could have been the engine of choice for many modern designs too....
>
>Chris
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: GSO-480 Overhaul |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 1/11/2006 2:19:27 PM Central Standard Time,
cschuerm@cox.net writes:
There are a few
shops left that will overhaul them, but there are fewer every day
Actually, there are several good shops that still do Geared engiens (see FGN
last year). Parts are not yet a problem (except for the oldiest GO 435). I
have also found that OH prices are reasonable. Several shops still do OH of
geared engiens even though they dont advertize. Moe Mills ah
had his engiens done by a shop in CA a couple years ago. I had not heard of
them, but they did a great job. I have an engine shop here in the portland
aera (Priemer engiens) who will wlso do them. The owner cut his teath on
geared engiens and still has a catche of NOS parts.
There is, at this time, no problem getting a GO or GSO engine overhauled
at a reasnoble cost. Also, the 480 searies engiens will almost always make
or exceed the TBO if properly flown. In the next FGN, (being printed now) I
hav an areticle on the proper operation of the lyc geared engine. jb
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