---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/11/06: 14 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:35 AM - Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (N395V) 2. 09:59 AM - Re: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (YOURTCFG@AOL.COM) 3. 10:42 AM - GSO-480 Overhaul (captseth) 4. 11:52 AM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Chris Schuermann) 5. 12:10 PM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (captseth) 6. 12:18 PM - Re: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Chris Schuermann) 7. 12:35 PM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul () 8. 12:41 PM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Bill Bow) 9. 02:28 PM - Re: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (Russell Legg) 10. 02:56 PM - Re: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap (skyhawkC-172@comcast.net) 11. 05:03 PM - Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (captseth) 12. 05:16 PM - Re: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Bill Bow) 13. 05:59 PM - Re: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (Allen Reed) 14. 08:42 PM - Re: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul (YOURTCFG@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:35:29 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap From: "N395V" --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" Life is good. Like you I am approaching retirement and trying to figure out what to do and how to survive financially and still fly. I now fly a homebuilt and live on the rocket and RV forums. This new format really provides easy access to all the forums so I thought I would drop in and provide some comic relief/greif for awhile. -------- Milt N395V F1 Rocket Driver Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2838#2838 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dcp_1184_127.jpg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:59:07 AM PST US From: YOURTCFG@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/11/2006 7:36:27 AM Central Standard Time, N395V@direcway.com writes: so I thought I would drop in and provide some comic relief/greif for awhile Great to hear. I look forward to you sharing your pearls of wisdom with the group!! Fly safe. jb ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:42:47 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul From: "captseth" --> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" Anyone know what factory rebuilts are running these days? Any problems getting parts? Thanks... S Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2966#2966 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:52:51 AM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann captseth wrote: > Anyone know what factory (GSO-480) rebuilts are running these days? Sure hope you're joking or you're going to be in for a terrible disapointment.... Hit the junk yards and try to find parts that are less worn out than what you've got..... cs ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:10:45 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul From: "captseth" --> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" So you're saying that if you pop a jug or trash a gearbox lycoming doesn't stock parts? Not entirely unexpected, but I am trying to determine the viability of this powerplant. Of course, if you have to overhaul the thing and you can't get a piston pin that you need, all is for naught. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2998#2998 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:18:33 PM PST US From: Chris Schuermann Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann captseth wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" > > So you're saying that if you pop a jug or trash a gearbox lycoming doesn't stock parts? Unfortunatly, that's the case. Lycoming no longer supports many of the oldest engines including the radials and GO series. There are a few shops left that will overhaul them, but there are fewer every day. We used to have several very good shops in the tulsa area that specialized in geared lycs, but they've all dropped those over the last 10 years or so due to lack of parts. Once in a while you can find some NOS parts, but mostly you're just looking at "is it better than what I've got" these days. Central Cylinder still does quite a bit of work on those engines and probably has more parts than anyone. You might give George Czarneki a call and see what they can do. Bottom line is that you're not going to get a "new limits" quality overhaul or many new parts. bummer - I think that if Lyc had kept progressing on the GSO-480 that it could have been the engine of choice for many modern designs too.... Chris ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:35:34 PM PST US From: Subject: Re: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul --> Commander-List message posted by: $22,000.00 in ft lauderdale.includes mags harnesses Air Mark Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schuermann" Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > > > captseth wrote: >> Anyone know what factory (GSO-480) rebuilts are running these days? > > Sure hope you're joking or you're going to be in for a terrible > disapointment.... > Hit the junk yards and try to find parts that are less worn out than > what you've got..... > > cs > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:41:21 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: RE: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" Se habla Espaniol??? Guermo -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of avtec2@bellsouth.net Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 3:33 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul --> Commander-List message posted by: $22,000.00 in ft lauderdale.includes mags harnesses Air Mark Harry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schuermann" Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 2:53 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: GSO-480 Overhaul > --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > > > captseth wrote: >> Anyone know what factory (GSO-480) rebuilts are running these days? > > Sure hope you're joking or you're going to be in for a terrible > disapointment.... > Hit the junk yards and try to find parts that are less worn out than > what you've got..... > > cs > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:28:24 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap From: Russell Legg --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg Capt Milt! Great to catch you on the email string again! When are you visiting the Topend of Oz? Best regards from Oz Russell On 11/1/06 11:05 PM, "N395V" wrote: > --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" > > Life is good. Like you I am approaching retirement and trying to figure out > what to do and how to survive financially and still fly. > > I now fly a homebuilt and live on the rocket and RV forums. This new format > really provides easy access to all the forums so I thought I would drop in and > provide some comic relief/greif for awhile. > > -------- > Milt > N395V > F1 Rocket Driver > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2838#2838 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dcp_1184_127.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:56:48 PM PST US From: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 680 FLP Fuel Cap --> Commander-List message posted by: skyhawkC-172@comcast.net anyone have knowledge of: where is this Twin Commander? "1/2 of a tough bird" @ twincommanderflyer.com -------------- Original message -------------- From: Russell Legg > --> Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg > > Capt Milt! > > Great to catch you on the email string again! > > When are you visiting the Topend of Oz? > > Best regards from Oz > > Russell > > > > On 11/1/06 11:05 PM, "N395V" wrote: > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" > > > > Life is good. Like you I am approaching retirement and trying to figure out > > what to do and how to survive financially and still fly. > > > > I now fly a homebuilt and live on the rocket and RV forums. This new format > > really provides easy access to all the forums so I thought I would drop in and > > provide some comic relief/greif for awhile. > > > > -------- > > Milt > > N395V > > F1 Rocket Driver > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2838#2838 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/dcp_1184_127.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > anyone have knowledge of: Question where is this Twin Commander? "1/2 of a tough bird" @ twincommanderflyer.com -------------- Original message -------------- From: Russell Legg rlegg@austarnet.com.au -- Commander-List message posted by: Russell Legg Capt Milt! Great to catch you on the email string again! When are you visiting the Topend of Oz? Best regards from Oz Russell On 11/1/06 11:05 PM, "N395V" wrote: -- Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" Life is good. Like you I am approaching retirement and trying to figure out what to do and how to survive financially and still fly. I now fly a homebuilt and live on the rocket and RV forums. This new format really provides e asy access to all the forums so I thought I would drop in and provide some comic relief/greif for awhile. -------- Milt N395V F1 Rocket Driver Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=2838#2838 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dcp_1184_127.jpg or to browse ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:03:13 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul From: "captseth" --> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" bowing74(at)earthlink.net wrote: > Se habla Espaniol??? > > Guermo Un Pocito. Anyway, thanks guys, that was helpful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3089#3089 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:16:31 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" You may need more that pocito. bilbo -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of captseth Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 8:03 PM Subject: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul --> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" bowing74(at)earthlink.net wrote: > Se habla Espaniol??? > > Guermo Un Pocito. Anyway, thanks guys, that was helpful. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3089#3089 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:59:23 PM PST US From: "Allen Reed" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul --> Commander-List message posted by: "Allen Reed" hey gang,,I saw a pair of gso 480'S,i think I can find the add,will be right back with ya!! Big AL >From: Chris Schuermann >To: commander-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul >Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 14:18:56 -0600 > >--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > >captseth wrote: > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "captseth" > > > > So you're saying that if you pop a jug or trash a gearbox lycoming >doesn't stock parts? > > >Unfortunatly, that's the case. Lycoming no longer supports many of the >oldest engines including the radials and GO series. There are a few >shops left that will overhaul them, but there are fewer every day. We >used to have several very good shops in the tulsa area that specialized >in geared lycs, but they've all dropped those over the last 10 years or >so due to lack of parts. Once in a while you can find some NOS parts, >but mostly you're just looking at "is it better than what I've got" >these days. Central Cylinder still does quite a bit of work on those >engines and probably has more parts than anyone. You might give George >Czarneki a call and see what they can do. Bottom line is that you're >not going to get a "new limits" quality overhaul or many new parts. > >bummer - I think that if Lyc had kept progressing on the GSO-480 that it >could have been the engine of choice for many modern designs too.... > >Chris > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:20 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GSO-480 Overhaul --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com In a message dated 1/11/2006 2:19:27 PM Central Standard Time, cschuerm@cox.net writes: There are a few shops left that will overhaul them, but there are fewer every day Actually, there are several good shops that still do Geared engiens (see FGN last year). Parts are not yet a problem (except for the oldiest GO 435). I have also found that OH prices are reasonable. Several shops still do OH of geared engiens even though they dont advertize. Moe Mills ah had his engiens done by a shop in CA a couple years ago. I had not heard of them, but they did a great job. I have an engine shop here in the portland aera (Priemer engiens) who will wlso do them. The owner cut his teath on geared engiens and still has a catche of NOS parts. There is, at this time, no problem getting a GO or GSO engine overhauled at a reasnoble cost. Also, the 480 searies engiens will almost always make or exceed the TBO if properly flown. In the next FGN, (being printed now) I hav an areticle on the proper operation of the lyc geared engine. jb