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1. 05:18 AM - Re: Shrike nose (Steven)
2. 05:43 AM - Re: Shrike nose (N395V)
3. 05:48 AM - Re: 500B hydraulic pump parts (Myron Ashley)
4. 05:48 AM - Re: Shrike nose (Barry Collman)
5. 06:09 AM - Slipping a short Commander (Moe)
6. 06:25 AM - Re: Re: Shrike nose (Nancy & Roland Gilliam)
7. 07:53 AM - Re: Re: Shrike nose (Moe)
8. 08:12 AM - Air Schuerman (N395V)
9. 10:56 AM - Re: Re: Shrike nose (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
10. 10:57 AM - Re: Slipping a short Commander (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
11. 01:04 PM - Re: Re: Shrike nose (Barry Collman)
12. 02:34 PM - Re: Re: Shrike nose (Bill Bow)
13. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: Shrike nose (BillLeff1@aol.com)
14. 06:19 PM - Re: Re: Shrike nose (YOURTCFG@AOL.COM)
15. 07:07 PM - Re: Re: Shrike nose (Tylor Hall)
16. 07:46 PM - Shrike Nose (Jim Addington)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Steven" <steve2@sover.net>
I must be in the minority prefering the snub-nose of the older Commanders to
the pointy nose of the later models......
What kind of percentage of older models get the nose-job? Sounds like a
question for Barry....
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy & Roland Gilliam" <amg@nc.rr.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 14, 2006 9:34 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Shrike nose
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Nancy & Roland Gilliam
> <amg@nc.rr.com>
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> Hello,
>
> Anyone know how much a Shrike nose cost, and who sells and installs
> them???
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <N395V@direcway.com>
> I must be in the minority prefering the snub-nose of the older Commanders
Nope. I suspect most of us prefer that classic buxom look. :D
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
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Subject: | Re: 500B hydraulic pump parts |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Myron Ashley" <mashley2@kc.rr.com>
Aircraft accessories of oklahoma are the experts for the hydrualic pumps.
800-255-9924
Good Luck,
Myron Ashley
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donnie Rose" <aquadiver99@yahoo.com>
Sent: Friday, January 13, 2006 12:07 PM
Subject: Commander-List: 500B hydraulic pump parts
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com>
>
> Dear members, does anyone have any info on the below
> topic?
> Thank you in advance...
>
>
> Good morning Mr. Tower,
> You had offered you help earlier in the Commander
> search for things and now I surely need it. I am in
> need of an oil seal for one of the main hydraulic
> pumps in my 1964 500B. My serial number is in the
> upper bracket [1300-] and the pump was manufactured by
> Eastern Industries, Hamden, CT. Model number of the
> pump is 105HBG-211B, part 4790222-501.
> The seal is on the input shaft and is in itself unique
> because of it's unusual depth of .690 on the outer
> case housing a double seal. I have found two smaller
> seals to "stack" in the originals place but would
> prefer OEM config. These two seals were obtained from
> Motion Industries with no other options.
> I sure hope you or one of the other members of the
> chat group can help Mr. Tower, I have exhausted all of
> my options.
>
> Best Regards,
> Donnie Rose
>
>
> Donnie Rose
> 205/492-8444
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>
> Donnie Rose
> 205/492-8444
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>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
Hi Steve,
Well, it is indeed a question for me!
I have traced about 270 of the Bathtub and Speedline nacelle Models that have
been modified with the installation of a Miller nose.
There were 1,865 airframes built under the 'old' msn system, but some of these
left the factory with the long nose.
Without refining everything down to the last decimal point, the answer is
approximately 15%.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven" <steve2@sover.net>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Shrike nose
Commander-List message posted by: "Steven"
| <steve2@sover.net
| I must be in the minority prefering the snub-nose of
| the older Commanders to the pointy nose of the later models...... What
| kind of percentage of older models get the nose-job? Sounds like a
| question for Barry.... [...]
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Subject: | Slipping a short Commander |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Commander Hearders,
Regardin the posts of a couple of weeks ago, it seems that no matter how hard you
slip a 680F(p) at about 120 MPH both the right and left air speed indicators
will stay within about three MPH of each other.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Nancy & Roland Gilliam <amg@nc.rr.com>
My original question was not intended to change my model 500 from the
original nose, but to try to see if this increased the value of a
project I know of. I appreciate all the response from all of you. Gap
seals is not an option for me as I have a 2500 ft. (paved) strip of my
own, and understand this inhibits the climb performance somewhat.
Comments???
Roland
Barry Collman wrote:
>--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
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>Hi Steve,
>
>Well, it is indeed a question for me!
>
>I have traced about 270 of the Bathtub and Speedline nacelle Models that have
>been modified with the installation of a Miller nose.
>
>There were 1,865 airframes built under the 'old' msn system, but some of these
>left the factory with the long nose.
>
>Without refining everything down to the last decimal point, the answer is
>approximately 15%.
>
>Very Best Regards,
>Barry
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steven" <steve2@sover.net>
>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:17 PM
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Shrike nose
>Commander-List message posted by: "Steven"
>| <steve2@sover.net
>| I must be in the minority prefering the snub-nose of
>| the older Commanders to the pointy nose of the later models...... What
>| kind of percentage of older models get the nose-job? Sounds like a
>| question for Barry.... [...]
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Roland,
You are most likely correct in your feelings that Flap Gap Seals are not a
good idea if you operate on a 2,500 foot strip.
Moe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nancy & Roland Gilliam" <amg@nc.rr.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Shrike nose
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Nancy & Roland Gilliam
<amg@nc.rr.com>
>
> My original question was not intended to change my model 500 from the
> original nose, but to try to see if this increased the value of a
> project I know of. I appreciate all the response from all of you. Gap
> seals is not an option for me as I have a 2500 ft. (paved) strip of my
> own, and understand this inhibits the climb performance somewhat.
> Comments???
>
> Roland
>
>
> Barry Collman wrote:
>
> >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
<barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
> >
> >Hi Steve,
> >
> >Well, it is indeed a question for me!
> >
> >I have traced about 270 of the Bathtub and Speedline nacelle Models that
have
> >been modified with the installation of a Miller nose.
> >
> >There were 1,865 airframes built under the 'old' msn system, but some of
these
> >left the factory with the long nose.
> >
> >Without refining everything down to the last decimal point, the answer is
> >approximately 15%.
> >
> >Very Best Regards,
> >Barry
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Steven" <steve2@sover.net>
> >To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> >Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 1:17 PM
> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Shrike nose
> >Commander-List message posted by: "Steven"
> >| <steve2@sover.net
> >| I must be in the minority prefering the snub-nose of
> >| the older Commanders to the pointy nose of the later models...... What
> >| kind of percentage of older models get the nose-job? Sounds like a
> >| question for Barry.... [...]
> >
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <N395V@direcway.com>
When travelling the Midwest I highly reccomend Captain Chris and First officer
Kim
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 1/16/2006 5:48:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
I have traced about 270 of the Bathtub and Speedline nacelle Models that have
been modified with the installation of a Miller nose.
SIR BARRY.
You forgot the 6 that had the "Little Rock" nose installed;_) jb
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Subject: | Re: Slipping a short Commander |
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 1/16/2006 6:10:17 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
moe@rosspistons.com writes:
about three MPH of each other.
That is about what I remember moe. Thanks!! jb PS I may be needing a set
of Pistons for a 454 chevy pretty soon. jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
No, no, no. I didn't forget. Just wanted to see if anyone was on the ball.!
Well done JimBob!!
Barry ;-)
----- Original Message -----
From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com>
Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Shrike nose
| --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
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| In a message dated 1/16/2006 5:48:55 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
| barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
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| I have traced about 270 of the Bathtub and Speedline nacelle Models that have
| been modified with the installation of a Miller nose.
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| SIR BARRY.
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| You forgot the 6 that had the "Little Rock" nose installed;_) jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Maybe a relief tube to go with those loooong range tanks.
bilbo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
YOURTCFG@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Shrike nose
--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 1/15/2006 8:11:01 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
N395V@direcway.com writes:
If you are looking for speed
The best speed mods are #1 Buy a good GPS, and use it. Fly everywhere
"GPS
Direct" and #2 bigger gas tanks:-) jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: BillLeff1@aol.com
Flap gap seals actually improve takeoff performance even though they close
off the gap somewhat.
Bill Leff
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--> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
In a message dated 1/16/2006 5:36:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
BillLeff1@aol.com writes:
Flap gap seals actually improve takeoff performance even though they close
off the gap somewhat.
That is not true:-) I have empirical knowledge of this. I operated from a
very short (1600) strip at 2500 ft above sea level. After installing the gap
seals, the TO (and landing) performance suffered noticeably. In fact, I was
so disappointed that I never painted the gap seals, wondering if I might
remove them. They do however give the advertised increase in speed. If you
always fly from a long (3000 ft) I recommend them. jb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Tylor Hall <tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net>
Has anyone tried to add Vortex Generators on a field approval?
There is one 500B that has them on it and I was told that they were a
great help in lowering approach speeds and lower single engine
control speed. They were installed on a one time STC.
Sir Berry can tell us who has them.
Tylor Hall
On Jan 16, 2006, at 7:19 PM, YOURTCFG@aol.com wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: YOURTCFG@aol.com
>
>
> In a message dated 1/16/2006 5:36:24 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> BillLeff1@aol.com writes:
>
> Flap gap seals actually improve takeoff performance even though
> they close
> off the gap somewhat.
>
>
> That is not true:-) I have empirical knowledge of this. I
> operated from a
> very short (1600) strip at 2500 ft above sea level. After
> installing the gap
> seals, the TO (and landing) performance suffered noticeably. In
> fact, I was
> so disappointed that I never painted the gap seals, wondering if I
> might
> remove them. They do however give the advertised increase in
> speed. If you
> always fly from a long (3000 ft) I recommend them. jb
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
I thought the long nose was so you could install a radar antenna with out
having a wart on the nose. I thought the good looks just came with it.
Jim Addington
N444BD
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