---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 03/31/06: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:06 AM - possible A/C down (Dan Brady) 2. 06:58 AM - Re: possible A/C down [bcc][faked-from] (Brock Lorber) 3. 11:48 PM - Bondo (W J R HAMILTON) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:06:02 AM PST US From: "Dan Brady" Subject: Commander-List: possible A/C down --> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Brady" Local SoCal T.V. has been reporting a Twin-Commander down in a wooded,mountainous area supposedly based in Las Vegas.....Pix of crash site look very bad. Anybody have any info? I understand we have some club members in the LAS area. I pray for the best......Dan 77B ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:58:08 AM PST US From: Brock Lorber Subject: Re: Commander-List: possible A/C down [bcc][faked-from] --> Commander-List message posted by: Brock Lorber Dan Brady wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Dan Brady" > >Local SoCal T.V. has been reporting a Twin-Commander down in a wooded,mountainous area supposedly based in Las Vegas.....Pix of crash site look very bad. Anybody have any info? I understand we have some club members in the LAS area. I pray for the best......Dan 77B > > > > > > > > > I see a single-engine commander down east of Burbank. It is registered to a Las Vegas resident, but I don't know him. Brock Lorber - N400CH http://www.southwestcirrus.com/n400ch/ ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:48:37 PM PST US From: W J R HAMILTON Subject: Commander-List: Bondo --> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON Folks, At the risk of sounding like I am trying to teach somebody to suck eggs, can I suggest that, for anything more than minor cosmetic damage,and I really mean minor, and anything with a score as part of the ding, you should consider it in terms of damage limits, ( not much in the older Commander manuals) and AC 43-13A/B, and proceed accordingly. Small doubler plates, suitable fitted on the underside of "panel beaten" sections, are really easy to do. A ding means the metal is stretched, all the usual methods of shrinking the plate (skin) do not restore the original strength. Needless to say, never use bog ( English for bondo) on any control surface. The results of flutter from unbalanced controls is not pretty. Anything you use should be safe on aluminium, the results of stress corrosion ain't pretty, even "ordinary" surface corrosion, especially inside lap joints can ruin your day, not to mention your bank balance. We have had altogether too much experience with hail damage recently, and have some very nasty disputes in progress with insurance companies, who will not accept that, on the type involve, the fwd. spar/leading edge structure is, in fact, a "box spar", not just a few ribs with a bit of sheet wrapped around it. Cheers, Bill Hamilton At 13:53 31/03/2006, you wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" > > >You could always add a rib from behind to push out the "oil can". >Tom F. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Robert Sather" >To: >Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 10:06 >Subject: Re: FW: Commander-List: Bondo[Verification] > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert Sather" > > > > Before using bondo or anything else. Try and remove the dent. If it is a > > large oil can type, the local glass shop will have a suction carrier for > > glass that you can suck down on to the metal and then gentley pull it out. > > There are several size of these vacumn pullers available. If it is >smaller > > there some remarkable adhesives that you can apply let dry then pull the > > dent then remove the adhesive with ketones or such. This works on bare > > aluminum pretty good. If painted you will have to airbrush after removing > > the dent. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Moe" > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 9:16 AM > > Subject: Re: FW: Commander-List: Bondo[Verification] > > > > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" > > > > > > Gents: > > > > > > It appears that I have missed something. What does the "Did anybody >else > > > get one of these?" from Bill, and the reply from Chris Schuermann refer > > > to? > > > Since the Subject line includes "Bondo (verification)" did I do >something > > > wrong? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Moe > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chris Schuermann" > > > To: > > > Sent: Thursday, March 30, 2006 7:39 AM > > > Subject: Re: FW: Commander-List: Bondo[Verification] > > > > > > > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> Bill Bow wrote: > > >> > Did anybody else get one of these? > > >> > > >> Yup. The piper list also got annoyed by a couple of dimwits who did >the > > >> same thing. You'd think that anyone with two functioning brain cells > > >> would be able to realize that they're going to spam hundreds of people > > >> by doing that. Moddy on the piper list now immediatly unsubscribes > > >> anyone who does that.... forever.... > > >> > > >> chris > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet Services and Warbirds.Net. & . This message is intended for and should only be used by the addressee. 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