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| Subject: | Vouch for Morris |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
Dito!
Phil Stubbs
> [Original Message]
> From: Randy Dettmer, AIA <rcdettmer@charter.net>
> To: Commander Chat <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 4/11/2006 4:55:29 PM
> Subject: Commander-List: Vouch for Morris
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA"
<rcdettmer@charter.net>
>
> I will echo the comments about the excellent service and support
> received from Morris Kernick, for over 7 years owning and
> operating my Twin Commander. Morris assisted me in finding my
> Commander and does all of its maintenance. He is a wealth of
> knowledge about Commanders, and has always been available to me
> when I needed help or information. I made him a small loan when
> he was forced to move his shop, which he promptly repaid. I do
> not hesitate to recommend him for pre-buys, maintenance, or
> service.
>
> Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
> 680F/N6253X
>
> Dettmer Architecture
> 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
> www.dettmerarchitecture.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
I contracted with Morris four years ago to do the pre-buy on my 560F
knowing of his past problems. I am an A&P with an IA but knew it was well
worth my while to have someone who knows what to look for do the
inspection. After eight hours and a list of 124 discrepancies(on an
aircraft about to be signed off for an annual) there was no question it was
money well spent.
Over the years his store of spares and freely given advice have saved me
much time, money and aggravation.
We all make mistakes. His value to the Commander community is hard to
dispute.
Phil Stubbs
> [Original Message]
> From: John Vormbaum <john@vormbaum.com>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 4/11/2006 3:40:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Introduction
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
>
> I am very familiar with the crash that happened many years ago; Morris
was
> essentially threatened in order to force him to sign off & release the
> airplane to the owner, even after Morris declared it unsafe to fly.
Morris
> specifically grounded the airplane, but the owner wouldn't listen. What
> would you expect to happen?
>
> Nobody works on my airplane except Morris, and I've had NO issues in 7
years
> of flying my 500B that was ONLY maintained by Morris. There are only a
> couple of people left alive that know as much about these airplanes as
> Morris. I've seen many people burned on Commander purchases. People who
get
> a pre-buy from Morris and LISTEN to him don't get burned.
>
> There are two sides to every story. Morris can be grumpy, opinionated,
> occasionally rude and non-social, but is a wealth of knowledge. The only
> people who've dealt with him that have been burned, in my experience
> (granted, only 7 years' worth) are people who don't listen to his advice,
or
> listen and then try to cut corners on maintenance.
>
> Like dealing with doctors, you should always get a 2nd opinion. That's
one
> of the reasons the list is here. But I think you'd be surprised how many
of
> the highly praised Commander shops just call Morris when they come upon a
> difficult Commander problem.
>
> /J
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <skyhawkc-172@comcast.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:04 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Introduction
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: skyhawkc-172@comcast.net
> >
> > One last note...Harry Merrit listed on the AreoCommander site as
> > avtec2@bellsouth.net is Morris Kernicks best friend. Just thought you
> > should have a little info prior to going in blind like us and others
> > before us.
> >
> > Good Luck and Happy skies...
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
> >
> >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
> >>
> >>
> >> Fellow Commanders-
> >>
> >> I have just joined this list after a recommendation from Twin Commander
> >> Corp. I don't know what the local customs are- so I thought I'd at
least
> >> introduce myself!
> >>
> >> I have had MSN 12021, a 1973 685 series Commander (N414C) for slightly
> >> more
> >> than a year. The airplane is currently based in western Nevada at
> >> Reno-Stead Airport (4SD) and will be in use for a range of business and
> >> private missions.
> >>
> >> Although we brought this magnificent airplane here last April, I've
only
> >> managed to acquire about 40hrs of time in up to today, as it has spent
> >> almost the entire year in a significant maintenance refit.
> >>
> >> At the time we purchased the bird, it was clear that it was going to
need
> >> some TLC to get it back up to the level of mechanical integrity that I
> >> demand from an airplane- we found some things buried in the engine
> >> compartments that hinted of some non standard maintenance practices
> >> (nylocks
> >> holding the turbo casings in place and safety wire holding the heat
> >> shields
> >> to their mounts... (!?!)) but overall the airplane is a fantastic
> >> specimen
> >> completely free of corrosion and some of the wear and tear you'd
expect
> >> on a
> >> 32 year old bird.
> >>
> >> The right engine was exhibiting some signs of stress- but gave only a
few
> >> hints to it's illness in spite of a significant maintenance inspection.
> >> During a test flight in August the engine suffered an uncontained
failure
> >> that put the final exclamation point on my concerns about it's health.
> >> (to
> >> say the least!) I had the good fortune of gaining some live single
engine
> >> experience with the airplane on a clear, windless day while at 16,500'
> >> and
> >> directly over the top of my home field.... It doesn't get much better
> >> than
> >> that!
> >>
> >> Upon removal and inspection- it appears that the engine builder
elected
> >> to
> >> use a silicone sealant inside the engine case. The sealant came free in
> >> globs and clogged the oil system- causing a complete meltdown in mere
> >> seconds. Fortunately the left engine came from a different and (we
think)
> >> more reputable engine shop!
> >>
> >> I've flown a number of turbine/turboprop/large piston twins- and I will
> >> swear to the fact that the Commander is the finest flying twin I've
ever
> >> driven with an engine shut down. Absolutely predictable, stable and
well
> >> mannered. If any of you have never had the opportunity to fly your
> >> airplane
> >> single engine down to a landing (I hope you never do) you can rest
> >> assured
> >> that if you keep your wits about you and plan your landing
thoughtfully -
> >> your airplane will look after you.
> >>
> >> We've just received the new engine that is to be hung on N414C- along
> >> with
> >> two overhauled props. We've just finished replacing every hose on the
> >> airplane (some dated to date of manufacture...oops...that slipped
through
> >> the pre-buy...) and have gutted the entire avionics package to make
room
> >> for
> >> modern technology.
> >>
> >> N414C is expected to fly again in late May/early June with a full new
> >> cockpit setup that is built around a two screen Chelton Flight Systems
> >> Synthetic Vision package. Since we were gutting, we're also installing
> >> two
> >> Garmin SL30 Nav/Coms, a full set of electric backup 2 inch
> >> Attitude/Altimeter/Nav gauges, and a PS audio control panel. This
cockpit
> >> layout will be a bit unique in that we are putting the navcoms/audio
> >> panel
> >> into a center console along with the color radar unit in order to open
up
> >> panel space and arrange things more cleanly for pilot use.
> >>
> >> We are also adding a Gemini engine monitoring package to the airplane
in
> >> order to try and extend engine life as much as possible- and possibly
see
> >> any further engine aberrations before the pieces fly out of the
> >> cowling...
> >>
> >> We are working closely with the great folks at Chelton who are
expanding
> >> the
> >> STC list for their AP-3C autopilot to include the 685 series commanders
> >> specifically so that we can install the unit on this airplane. We'll
> >> likely
> >> have to fly the airplane to Idaho upon completion so that they can
> >> demonstrate the installation to their FISDO in order to complete the
STC
> >> approval- but we felt that this was a small price to pay for the
> >> improvement
> >> in safety and functionality that would come with the new system. (Aside
> >> from which, when the good old M4 stopped working- it was going to cost
as
> >> much to repair is it would to install the new Chelton autopilot....)
> >>
> >> No decision on overhauling the cabin or repainting the exterior- but
I'm
> >> sure these will come in due time. Looking forward to getting this
grand
> >> old
> >> bird flying again in fantastic new style.
> >>
> >> For those interested- we estimate that approximately 300lbs of weight
> >> will
> >> be shed from the airplane before this overhaul is finished....
> >>
> >> My only wish for the airplane is that sometime soon- all of us 680/685
> >> owners can get access to an engine that is more dependable than the
> >> GTSIO-520-Ks.... I really haven't had much chance to work with these
> >> engines- but from what I've read they can be a temperamental lot if not
> >> cared for precisely in flight. I'm comfortable with the process- but it
> >> would be nice to have an alternative....
> >>
> >> At any rate- that's a long winded introduction- but I'm a great fan of
> >> Commander aircraft- and I'm looking forward to expanding my fund of
> >> knowledge with all of you folks- and hopefully meeting you all one day
at
> >> a
> >> gathering!
> >>
> >> Robert Randazzo
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > One last note...Harry Merrit listed on the AreoCommander site as
> > avtec2@bellsouth.net is Morris Kernicks best friend. Just thought you
> > should have a little info prior to going in blind like us and others
> > before us.
> >
> > <EM>Good Luck and Happy skies...</EM>
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message --------------
> > From: "Robert S. Randazzo" rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com
> >
> > -- Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
> > <RSRANDAZZO@PRECISIONMANUALS.COM>
> >
> > Fellow Commanders-
> >
> > I have just joined this list after a recommendation from Twin Commander
> > Corp. I don't know what the local customs are- so I thought I'd at least
> > introduce myself!
> >
> > I have had MSN 12021, a 1973 685 series Commander (N414C) for slightly
> > more
> > than a year. The airplane is currently based in western Nevada at
> > Reno-Stead Airport (4SD) and will be in use for a range of business and
> > private missions.
> >
> > Although we brought this magnificent airplane here last April, I've only
> > managed to acquire about 40hrs of time in up to today,
> > as it has spent
> > almost the entire year in a significant maintenance refit.
> >
> > At the time we purchased the bird, it was clear that it was going to
need
> > some TLC to get it back up to the level of mechanical integrity that I
> > demand from an airplane- we found some things buried in the engine
> > compartments that hinted of some non standard maintenance practices
> > (nylocks
> > holding the turbo casings in place and safety wire holding the heat
> > shields
> > to their mounts... (!?!)) but overall the airplane is a fantastic
specimen
> > completely free of corrosion and some of the wear and tear you'd expect
on
> > a
> > 32 year old bird.
> >
> > The right engine was exhibiting some signs of stress- but gave only a
few
> > hints to it's illness in spite of a significant maintenance inspection.
> > During a test flight in August the engine suffered an uncontained
failure
> > that put the final excl
> > amation point on my concerns about it's health. (to
> > say the least!) I had the good fortune of gaining some live single
engine
> > experience with the airplane on a clear, windless day while at 16,500'
and
> > directly over the top of my home field.... It doesn't get much better
than
> > that!
> >
> > Upon removal and inspection- it appears that the engine builder elected
to
> > use a silicone sealant inside the engine case. The sealant came free in
> > globs and clogged the oil system- causing a complete meltdown in mere
> > seconds. Fortunately the left engine came from a different and (we
think)
> > more reputable engine shop!
> >
> > I've flown a number of turbine/turboprop/large piston twins- and I will
> > swear to the fact that the Commander is the finest flying twin I've ever
> > driven with an engine shut down. Absolutely predictable, stable and well
> > mannered. If any of you have never
> > had the opportunity to fly your airplane
> > single engine down to a landing (I hope you never do) you can rest
assured
> > that if you keep your wits about you and plan your landing thoughtfully
-
> > your airplane will look after you.
> >
> > We've just received the new engine that is to be hung on N414C- along
with
> > two overhauled props. We've just finished replacing every hose on the
> > airplane (some dated to date of manufacture...oops...that slipped
through
> > the pre-buy...) and have gutted the entire avionics package to make
room
> > for
> > modern technology.
> >
> > N414C is expected to fly again in late May/early June with a full new
> > cockpit setup that is built around a two screen Chelton Flight Systems
> > Synthetic Vision package. Since we were gutting, we're also installing
two
> > Garmin SL30 Nav/Coms, a full set of electric backup 2 inch
> > Attitude/Altimeter/Nav gauges, and a PS
> > audio control panel. This cockpit
> > layout will be a bit unique in that we are putting the navcoms/audio
panel
> > into a center console along with the color radar unit in order to open
up
> > panel space and arrange things more cleanly for pilot use.
> >
> > We are also adding a Gemini engine monitoring package to the airplane in
> > order to try and extend engine life as much as possible- and possibly
see
> > any further engine aberrations before the pieces fly out of the
cowling...
> >
> > We are working closely with the great folks at Chelton who are
expanding
> > the
> > STC list for their AP-3C autopilot to include the 685 series commanders
> > specifically so that we can install the unit on this airplane. We'll
> > likely
> > have to fly the airplane to Idaho upon completion so that they can
> > demonstrate the installation to their FISDO in order to complete the STC
> > approval- but we felt that this w
> > as a small price to pay for the improvement
> > in safety and functionality that would come with the new system. (Aside
> > from which, when the good old M4 stopped working- it was going to cost
as
> > much to repair is it would to install the new Chelton autopilot....)
> >
> > No decision on overhauling the cabin or repainting the exterior- but I'm
> > sure these will come in due time. Looking forward to getting this grand
> > old
> > bird flying again in fantastic new style.
> >
> > For those interested- we estimate that approximately 300lbs of weight
will
> > be shed from the airplane before this overhaul is finished....
> >
> > My only wish for the airplane is that sometime soon- all of us 680/685
> > owners can get access to an engine that is more dependable than the
> > GTSIO-520-Ks.... I really haven't had much chance to work with these
> > engines- but from what I've read they can be a temperament
> > al lot if not
> > cared for precisely in flight. I'm comfortable with the process- but it
> > would be nice to have an alternative....
> >
> > At any rate- that's a long winded introduction- but I'm a great fan of
> > Commander aircraft- and I'm looking forward to expanding my fund of
> > knowledge with all of you folks- and hopefully meeting you all one day
at
> > a
> > gathering!
> >
> > Robert Randazzo
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
Gents,
Morris has always dealt with me very fairly. My mechanic has called Morris
numerous times for (free) advice when working on my 680F(p). I would
recommend Morris to anyone.
Moe
N680RR
----- Original Message -----
From: <br549phil@mindspring.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:41 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Introduction
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
>
> I contracted with Morris four years ago to do the pre-buy on my 560F
> knowing of his past problems. I am an A&P with an IA but knew it was well
> worth my while to have someone who knows what to look for do the
> inspection. After eight hours and a list of 124 discrepancies(on an
> aircraft about to be signed off for an annual) there was no question it
was
> money well spent.
>
> Over the years his store of spares and freely given advice have saved me
> much time, money and aggravation.
> We all make mistakes. His value to the Commander community is hard to
> dispute.
>
> Phil Stubbs
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: John Vormbaum <john@vormbaum.com>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Date: 4/11/2006 3:40:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Introduction
> >
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum"
<john@vormbaum.com>
> >
> > I am very familiar with the crash that happened many years ago; Morris
> was
> > essentially threatened in order to force him to sign off & release the
> > airplane to the owner, even after Morris declared it unsafe to fly.
> Morris
> > specifically grounded the airplane, but the owner wouldn't listen. What
> > would you expect to happen?
> >
> > Nobody works on my airplane except Morris, and I've had NO issues in 7
> years
> > of flying my 500B that was ONLY maintained by Morris. There are only a
> > couple of people left alive that know as much about these airplanes as
> > Morris. I've seen many people burned on Commander purchases. People who
> get
> > a pre-buy from Morris and LISTEN to him don't get burned.
> >
> > There are two sides to every story. Morris can be grumpy, opinionated,
> > occasionally rude and non-social, but is a wealth of knowledge. The only
> > people who've dealt with him that have been burned, in my experience
> > (granted, only 7 years' worth) are people who don't listen to his
advice,
> or
> > listen and then try to cut corners on maintenance.
> >
> > Like dealing with doctors, you should always get a 2nd opinion. That's
> one
> > of the reasons the list is here. But I think you'd be surprised how many
> of
> > the highly praised Commander shops just call Morris when they come upon
a
> > difficult Commander problem.
> >
> > /J
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <skyhawkc-172@comcast.net>
> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Introduction
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: skyhawkc-172@comcast.net
> > >
> > > One last note...Harry Merrit listed on the AreoCommander site as
> > > avtec2@bellsouth.net is Morris Kernicks best friend. Just thought you
> > > should have a little info prior to going in blind like us and others
> > > before us.
> > >
> > > Good Luck and Happy skies...
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > From: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
> > >
> > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Fellow Commanders-
> > >>
> > >> I have just joined this list after a recommendation from Twin
Commander
> > >> Corp. I don't know what the local customs are- so I thought I'd at
> least
> > >> introduce myself!
> > >>
> > >> I have had MSN 12021, a 1973 685 series Commander (N414C) for
slightly
> > >> more
> > >> than a year. The airplane is currently based in western Nevada at
> > >> Reno-Stead Airport (4SD) and will be in use for a range of business
and
> > >> private missions.
> > >>
> > >> Although we brought this magnificent airplane here last April, I've
> only
> > >> managed to acquire about 40hrs of time in up to today, as it has
spent
> > >> almost the entire year in a significant maintenance refit.
> > >>
> > >> At the time we purchased the bird, it was clear that it was going to
> need
> > >> some TLC to get it back up to the level of mechanical integrity that
I
> > >> demand from an airplane- we found some things buried in the engine
> > >> compartments that hinted of some non standard maintenance practices
> > >> (nylocks
> > >> holding the turbo casings in place and safety wire holding the heat
> > >> shields
> > >> to their mounts... (!?!)) but overall the airplane is a fantastic
> > >> specimen
> > >> completely free of corrosion and some of the wear and tear you'd
> expect
> > >> on a
> > >> 32 year old bird.
> > >>
> > >> The right engine was exhibiting some signs of stress- but gave only a
> few
> > >> hints to it's illness in spite of a significant maintenance
inspection.
> > >> During a test flight in August the engine suffered an uncontained
> failure
> > >> that put the final exclamation point on my concerns about it's
health.
> > >> (to
> > >> say the least!) I had the good fortune of gaining some live single
> engine
> > >> experience with the airplane on a clear, windless day while at
16,500'
> > >> and
> > >> directly over the top of my home field.... It doesn't get much better
> > >> than
> > >> that!
> > >>
> > >> Upon removal and inspection- it appears that the engine builder
> elected
> > >> to
> > >> use a silicone sealant inside the engine case. The sealant came free
in
> > >> globs and clogged the oil system- causing a complete meltdown in mere
> > >> seconds. Fortunately the left engine came from a different and (we
> think)
> > >> more reputable engine shop!
> > >>
> > >> I've flown a number of turbine/turboprop/large piston twins- and I
will
> > >> swear to the fact that the Commander is the finest flying twin I've
> ever
> > >> driven with an engine shut down. Absolutely predictable, stable and
> well
> > >> mannered. If any of you have never had the opportunity to fly your
> > >> airplane
> > >> single engine down to a landing (I hope you never do) you can rest
> > >> assured
> > >> that if you keep your wits about you and plan your landing
> thoughtfully -
> > >> your airplane will look after you.
> > >>
> > >> We've just received the new engine that is to be hung on N414C- along
> > >> with
> > >> two overhauled props. We've just finished replacing every hose on the
> > >> airplane (some dated to date of manufacture...oops...that slipped
> through
> > >> the pre-buy...) and have gutted the entire avionics package to make
> room
> > >> for
> > >> modern technology.
> > >>
> > >> N414C is expected to fly again in late May/early June with a full new
> > >> cockpit setup that is built around a two screen Chelton Flight
Systems
> > >> Synthetic Vision package. Since we were gutting, we're also
installing
> > >> two
> > >> Garmin SL30 Nav/Coms, a full set of electric backup 2 inch
> > >> Attitude/Altimeter/Nav gauges, and a PS audio control panel. This
> cockpit
> > >> layout will be a bit unique in that we are putting the navcoms/audio
> > >> panel
> > >> into a center console along with the color radar unit in order to
open
> up
> > >> panel space and arrange things more cleanly for pilot use.
> > >>
> > >> We are also adding a Gemini engine monitoring package to the airplane
> in
> > >> order to try and extend engine life as much as possible- and possibly
> see
> > >> any further engine aberrations before the pieces fly out of the
> > >> cowling...
> > >>
> > >> We are working closely with the great folks at Chelton who are
> expanding
> > >> the
> > >> STC list for their AP-3C autopilot to include the 685 series
commanders
> > >> specifically so that we can install the unit on this airplane. We'll
> > >> likely
> > >> have to fly the airplane to Idaho upon completion so that they can
> > >> demonstrate the installation to their FISDO in order to complete the
> STC
> > >> approval- but we felt that this was a small price to pay for the
> > >> improvement
> > >> in safety and functionality that would come with the new system.
(Aside
> > >> from which, when the good old M4 stopped working- it was going to
cost
> as
> > >> much to repair is it would to install the new Chelton autopilot....)
> > >>
> > >> No decision on overhauling the cabin or repainting the exterior- but
> I'm
> > >> sure these will come in due time. Looking forward to getting this
> grand
> > >> old
> > >> bird flying again in fantastic new style.
> > >>
> > >> For those interested- we estimate that approximately 300lbs of weight
> > >> will
> > >> be shed from the airplane before this overhaul is finished....
> > >>
> > >> My only wish for the airplane is that sometime soon- all of us
680/685
> > >> owners can get access to an engine that is more dependable than the
> > >> GTSIO-520-Ks.... I really haven't had much chance to work with these
> > >> engines- but from what I've read they can be a temperamental lot if
not
> > >> cared for precisely in flight. I'm comfortable with the process- but
it
> > >> would be nice to have an alternative....
> > >>
> > >> At any rate- that's a long winded introduction- but I'm a great fan
of
> > >> Commander aircraft- and I'm looking forward to expanding my fund of
> > >> knowledge with all of you folks- and hopefully meeting you all one
day
> at
> > >> a
> > >> gathering!
> > >>
> > >> Robert Randazzo
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > > One last note...Harry Merrit listed on the AreoCommander site as
> > > avtec2@bellsouth.net is Morris Kernicks best friend. Just thought you
> > > should have a little info prior to going in blind like us and others
> > > before us.
> > >
> > > <EM>Good Luck and Happy skies...</EM>
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > From: "Robert S. Randazzo" rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com
> > >
> > > -- Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
> > > <RSRANDAZZO@PRECISIONMANUALS.COM>
> > >
> > > Fellow Commanders-
> > >
> > > I have just joined this list after a recommendation from Twin
Commander
> > > Corp. I don't know what the local customs are- so I thought I'd at
least
> > > introduce myself!
> > >
> > > I have had MSN 12021, a 1973 685 series Commander (N414C) for slightly
> > > more
> > > than a year. The airplane is currently based in western Nevada at
> > > Reno-Stead Airport (4SD) and will be in use for a range of business
and
> > > private missions.
> > >
> > > Although we brought this magnificent airplane here last April, I've
only
> > > managed to acquire about 40hrs of time in up to today,
> > > as it has spent
> > > almost the entire year in a significant maintenance refit.
> > >
> > > At the time we purchased the bird, it was clear that it was going to
> need
> > > some TLC to get it back up to the level of mechanical integrity that I
> > > demand from an airplane- we found some things buried in the engine
> > > compartments that hinted of some non standard maintenance practices
> > > (nylocks
> > > holding the turbo casings in place and safety wire holding the heat
> > > shields
> > > to their mounts... (!?!)) but overall the airplane is a fantastic
> specimen
> > > completely free of corrosion and some of the wear and tear you'd
expect
> on
> > > a
> > > 32 year old bird.
> > >
> > > The right engine was exhibiting some signs of stress- but gave only a
> few
> > > hints to it's illness in spite of a significant maintenance
inspection.
> > > During a test flight in August the engine suffered an uncontained
> failure
> > > that put the final excl
> > > amation point on my concerns about it's health. (to
> > > say the least!) I had the good fortune of gaining some live single
> engine
> > > experience with the airplane on a clear, windless day while at 16,500'
> and
> > > directly over the top of my home field.... It doesn't get much better
> than
> > > that!
> > >
> > > Upon removal and inspection- it appears that the engine builder
elected
> to
> > > use a silicone sealant inside the engine case. The sealant came free
in
> > > globs and clogged the oil system- causing a complete meltdown in mere
> > > seconds. Fortunately the left engine came from a different and (we
> think)
> > > more reputable engine shop!
> > >
> > > I've flown a number of turbine/turboprop/large piston twins- and I
will
> > > swear to the fact that the Commander is the finest flying twin I've
ever
> > > driven with an engine shut down. Absolutely predictable, stable and
well
> > > mannered. If any of you have never
> > > had the opportunity to fly your airplane
> > > single engine down to a landing (I hope you never do) you can rest
> assured
> > > that if you keep your wits about you and plan your landing
thoughtfully
> -
> > > your airplane will look after you.
> > >
> > > We've just received the new engine that is to be hung on N414C- along
> with
> > > two overhauled props. We've just finished replacing every hose on the
> > > airplane (some dated to date of manufacture...oops...that slipped
> through
> > > the pre-buy...) and have gutted the entire avionics package to make
> room
> > > for
> > > modern technology.
> > >
> > > N414C is expected to fly again in late May/early June with a full new
> > > cockpit setup that is built around a two screen Chelton Flight Systems
> > > Synthetic Vision package. Since we were gutting, we're also installing
> two
> > > Garmin SL30 Nav/Coms, a full set of electric backup 2 inch
> > > Attitude/Altimeter/Nav gauges, and a PS
> > > audio control panel. This cockpit
> > > layout will be a bit unique in that we are putting the navcoms/audio
> panel
> > > into a center console along with the color radar unit in order to open
> up
> > > panel space and arrange things more cleanly for pilot use.
> > >
> > > We are also adding a Gemini engine monitoring package to the airplane
in
> > > order to try and extend engine life as much as possible- and possibly
> see
> > > any further engine aberrations before the pieces fly out of the
> cowling...
> > >
> > > We are working closely with the great folks at Chelton who are
> expanding
> > > the
> > > STC list for their AP-3C autopilot to include the 685 series
commanders
> > > specifically so that we can install the unit on this airplane. We'll
> > > likely
> > > have to fly the airplane to Idaho upon completion so that they can
> > > demonstrate the installation to their FISDO in order to complete the
STC
> > > approval- but we felt that this w
> > > as a small price to pay for the improvement
> > > in safety and functionality that would come with the new system.
(Aside
> > > from which, when the good old M4 stopped working- it was going to cost
> as
> > > much to repair is it would to install the new Chelton autopilot....)
> > >
> > > No decision on overhauling the cabin or repainting the exterior- but
I'm
> > > sure these will come in due time. Looking forward to getting this
grand
> > > old
> > > bird flying again in fantastic new style.
> > >
> > > For those interested- we estimate that approximately 300lbs of weight
> will
> > > be shed from the airplane before this overhaul is finished....
> > >
> > > My only wish for the airplane is that sometime soon- all of us 680/685
> > > owners can get access to an engine that is more dependable than the
> > > GTSIO-520-Ks.... I really haven't had much chance to work with these
> > > engines- but from what I've read they can be a temperament
> > > al lot if not
> > > cared for precisely in flight. I'm comfortable with the process- but
it
> > > would be nice to have an alternative....
> > >
> > > At any rate- that's a long winded introduction- but I'm a great fan of
> > > Commander aircraft- and I'm looking forward to expanding my fund of
> > > knowledge with all of you folks- and hopefully meeting you all one day
> at
> > > a
> > > gathering!
> > >
> > > Robert Randazzo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON Chevaillier" <kamala@msn.com>
mk, so morris how many buttons are left on the chest of your shirt? you now
have a real clear picture of what your friends think of you, kept secret
until now. congradulations. mason
>From: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Introduction
>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 12:02:35 -0700
>
>--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
>
>Gents,
>
>Morris has always dealt with me very fairly. My mechanic has called Morris
>numerous times for (free) advice when working on my 680F(p). I would
>recommend Morris to anyone.
>
>
>Moe
>N680RR
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <br549phil@mindspring.com>
>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>; <commander-list@matronics.com>
>Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 11:41 AM
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Introduction
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
> >
> > I contracted with Morris four years ago to do the pre-buy on my 560F
> > knowing of his past problems. I am an A&P with an IA but knew it was
>well
> > worth my while to have someone who knows what to look for do the
> > inspection. After eight hours and a list of 124 discrepancies(on an
> > aircraft about to be signed off for an annual) there was no question it
>was
> > money well spent.
> >
> > Over the years his store of spares and freely given advice have saved me
> > much time, money and aggravation.
> > We all make mistakes. His value to the Commander community is hard to
> > dispute.
> >
> > Phil Stubbs
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: John Vormbaum <john@vormbaum.com>
> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > > Date: 4/11/2006 3:40:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Introduction
> > >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum"
><john@vormbaum.com>
> > >
> > > I am very familiar with the crash that happened many years ago; Morris
> > was
> > > essentially threatened in order to force him to sign off & release the
> > > airplane to the owner, even after Morris declared it unsafe to fly.
> > Morris
> > > specifically grounded the airplane, but the owner wouldn't listen.
>What
> > > would you expect to happen?
> > >
> > > Nobody works on my airplane except Morris, and I've had NO issues in 7
> > years
> > > of flying my 500B that was ONLY maintained by Morris. There are only a
> > > couple of people left alive that know as much about these airplanes as
> > > Morris. I've seen many people burned on Commander purchases. People
>who
> > get
> > > a pre-buy from Morris and LISTEN to him don't get burned.
> > >
> > > There are two sides to every story. Morris can be grumpy, opinionated,
> > > occasionally rude and non-social, but is a wealth of knowledge. The
>only
> > > people who've dealt with him that have been burned, in my experience
> > > (granted, only 7 years' worth) are people who don't listen to his
>advice,
> > or
> > > listen and then try to cut corners on maintenance.
> > >
> > > Like dealing with doctors, you should always get a 2nd opinion. That's
> > one
> > > of the reasons the list is here. But I think you'd be surprised how
>many
> > of
> > > the highly praised Commander shops just call Morris when they come
>upon
>a
> > > difficult Commander problem.
> > >
> > > /J
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <skyhawkc-172@comcast.net>
> > > To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2006 12:04 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Introduction
> > >
> > >
> > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: skyhawkc-172@comcast.net
> > > >
> > > > One last note...Harry Merrit listed on the AreoCommander site as
> > > > avtec2@bellsouth.net is Morris Kernicks best friend. Just thought
>you
> > > > should have a little info prior to going in blind like us and others
> > > > before us.
> > > >
> > > > Good Luck and Happy skies...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > From: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
> > > >
> > > >> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Fellow Commanders-
> > > >>
> > > >> I have just joined this list after a recommendation from Twin
>Commander
> > > >> Corp. I don't know what the local customs are- so I thought I'd at
> > least
> > > >> introduce myself!
> > > >>
> > > >> I have had MSN 12021, a 1973 685 series Commander (N414C) for
>slightly
> > > >> more
> > > >> than a year. The airplane is currently based in western Nevada at
> > > >> Reno-Stead Airport (4SD) and will be in use for a range of business
>and
> > > >> private missions.
> > > >>
> > > >> Although we brought this magnificent airplane here last April, I've
> > only
> > > >> managed to acquire about 40hrs of time in up to today, as it has
>spent
> > > >> almost the entire year in a significant maintenance refit.
> > > >>
> > > >> At the time we purchased the bird, it was clear that it was going
>to
> > need
> > > >> some TLC to get it back up to the level of mechanical integrity
>that
>I
> > > >> demand from an airplane- we found some things buried in the engine
> > > >> compartments that hinted of some non standard maintenance practices
> > > >> (nylocks
> > > >> holding the turbo casings in place and safety wire holding the heat
> > > >> shields
> > > >> to their mounts... (!?!)) but overall the airplane is a fantastic
> > > >> specimen
> > > >> completely free of corrosion and some of the wear and tear you'd
> > expect
> > > >> on a
> > > >> 32 year old bird.
> > > >>
> > > >> The right engine was exhibiting some signs of stress- but gave only
>a
> > few
> > > >> hints to it's illness in spite of a significant maintenance
>inspection.
> > > >> During a test flight in August the engine suffered an uncontained
> > failure
> > > >> that put the final exclamation point on my concerns about it's
>health.
> > > >> (to
> > > >> say the least!) I had the good fortune of gaining some live single
> > engine
> > > >> experience with the airplane on a clear, windless day while at
>16,500'
> > > >> and
> > > >> directly over the top of my home field.... It doesn't get much
>better
> > > >> than
> > > >> that!
> > > >>
> > > >> Upon removal and inspection- it appears that the engine builder
> > elected
> > > >> to
> > > >> use a silicone sealant inside the engine case. The sealant came
>free
>in
> > > >> globs and clogged the oil system- causing a complete meltdown in
>mere
> > > >> seconds. Fortunately the left engine came from a different and (we
> > think)
> > > >> more reputable engine shop!
> > > >>
> > > >> I've flown a number of turbine/turboprop/large piston twins- and I
>will
> > > >> swear to the fact that the Commander is the finest flying twin I've
> > ever
> > > >> driven with an engine shut down. Absolutely predictable, stable and
> > well
> > > >> mannered. If any of you have never had the opportunity to fly your
> > > >> airplane
> > > >> single engine down to a landing (I hope you never do) you can rest
> > > >> assured
> > > >> that if you keep your wits about you and plan your landing
> > thoughtfully -
> > > >> your airplane will look after you.
> > > >>
> > > >> We've just received the new engine that is to be hung on N414C-
>along
> > > >> with
> > > >> two overhauled props. We've just finished replacing every hose on
>the
> > > >> airplane (some dated to date of manufacture...oops...that slipped
> > through
> > > >> the pre-buy...) and have gutted the entire avionics package to make
> > room
> > > >> for
> > > >> modern technology.
> > > >>
> > > >> N414C is expected to fly again in late May/early June with a full
>new
> > > >> cockpit setup that is built around a two screen Chelton Flight
>Systems
> > > >> Synthetic Vision package. Since we were gutting, we're also
>installing
> > > >> two
> > > >> Garmin SL30 Nav/Coms, a full set of electric backup 2 inch
> > > >> Attitude/Altimeter/Nav gauges, and a PS audio control panel. This
> > cockpit
> > > >> layout will be a bit unique in that we are putting the
>navcoms/audio
> > > >> panel
> > > >> into a center console along with the color radar unit in order to
>open
> > up
> > > >> panel space and arrange things more cleanly for pilot use.
> > > >>
> > > >> We are also adding a Gemini engine monitoring package to the
>airplane
> > in
> > > >> order to try and extend engine life as much as possible- and
>possibly
> > see
> > > >> any further engine aberrations before the pieces fly out of the
> > > >> cowling...
> > > >>
> > > >> We are working closely with the great folks at Chelton who are
> > expanding
> > > >> the
> > > >> STC list for their AP-3C autopilot to include the 685 series
>commanders
> > > >> specifically so that we can install the unit on this airplane.
>We'll
> > > >> likely
> > > >> have to fly the airplane to Idaho upon completion so that they can
> > > >> demonstrate the installation to their FISDO in order to complete
>the
> > STC
> > > >> approval- but we felt that this was a small price to pay for the
> > > >> improvement
> > > >> in safety and functionality that would come with the new system.
>(Aside
> > > >> from which, when the good old M4 stopped working- it was going to
>cost
> > as
> > > >> much to repair is it would to install the new Chelton
>autopilot....)
> > > >>
> > > >> No decision on overhauling the cabin or repainting the exterior-
>but
> > I'm
> > > >> sure these will come in due time. Looking forward to getting this
> > grand
> > > >> old
> > > >> bird flying again in fantastic new style.
> > > >>
> > > >> For those interested- we estimate that approximately 300lbs of
>weight
> > > >> will
> > > >> be shed from the airplane before this overhaul is finished....
> > > >>
> > > >> My only wish for the airplane is that sometime soon- all of us
>680/685
> > > >> owners can get access to an engine that is more dependable than the
> > > >> GTSIO-520-Ks.... I really haven't had much chance to work with
>these
> > > >> engines- but from what I've read they can be a temperamental lot if
>not
> > > >> cared for precisely in flight. I'm comfortable with the process-
>but
>it
> > > >> would be nice to have an alternative....
> > > >>
> > > >> At any rate- that's a long winded introduction- but I'm a great fan
>of
> > > >> Commander aircraft- and I'm looking forward to expanding my fund of
> > > >> knowledge with all of you folks- and hopefully meeting you all one
>day
> > at
> > > >> a
> > > >> gathering!
> > > >>
> > > >> Robert Randazzo
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > One last note...Harry Merrit listed on the AreoCommander site as
> > > > avtec2@bellsouth.net is Morris Kernicks best friend. Just thought
>you
> > > > should have a little info prior to going in blind like us and others
> > > > before us.
> > > >
> > > > <EM>Good Luck and Happy skies...</EM>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -------------- Original message --------------
> > > > From: "Robert S. Randazzo" rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com
> > > >
> > > > -- Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
> > > > <RSRANDAZZO@PRECISIONMANUALS.COM>
> > > >
> > > > Fellow Commanders-
> > > >
> > > > I have just joined this list after a recommendation from Twin
>Commander
> > > > Corp. I don't know what the local customs are- so I thought I'd at
>least
> > > > introduce myself!
> > > >
> > > > I have had MSN 12021, a 1973 685 series Commander (N414C) for
>slightly
> > > > more
> > > > than a year. The airplane is currently based in western Nevada at
> > > > Reno-Stead Airport (4SD) and will be in use for a range of business
>and
> > > > private missions.
> > > >
> > > > Although we brought this magnificent airplane here last April, I've
>only
> > > > managed to acquire about 40hrs of time in up to today,
> > > > as it has spent
> > > > almost the entire year in a significant maintenance refit.
> > > >
> > > > At the time we purchased the bird, it was clear that it was going to
> > need
> > > > some TLC to get it back up to the level of mechanical integrity that
>I
> > > > demand from an airplane- we found some things buried in the engine
> > > > compartments that hinted of some non standard maintenance practices
> > > > (nylocks
> > > > holding the turbo casings in place and safety wire holding the heat
> > > > shields
> > > > to their mounts... (!?!)) but overall the airplane is a fantastic
> > specimen
> > > > completely free of corrosion and some of the wear and tear you'd
>expect
> > on
> > > > a
> > > > 32 year old bird.
> > > >
> > > > The right engine was exhibiting some signs of stress- but gave only
>a
> > few
> > > > hints to it's illness in spite of a significant maintenance
>inspection.
> > > > During a test flight in August the engine suffered an uncontained
> > failure
> > > > that put the final excl
> > > > amation point on my concerns about it's health. (to
> > > > say the least!) I had the good fortune of gaining some live single
> > engine
> > > > experience with the airplane on a clear, windless day while at
>16,500'
> > and
> > > > directly over the top of my home field.... It doesn't get much
>better
> > than
> > > > that!
> > > >
> > > > Upon removal and inspection- it appears that the engine builder
>elected
> > to
> > > > use a silicone sealant inside the engine case. The sealant came free
>in
> > > > globs and clogged the oil system- causing a complete meltdown in
>mere
> > > > seconds. Fortunately the left engine came from a different and (we
> > think)
> > > > more reputable engine shop!
> > > >
> > > > I've flown a number of turbine/turboprop/large piston twins- and I
>will
> > > > swear to the fact that the Commander is the finest flying twin I've
>ever
> > > > driven with an engine shut down. Absolutely predictable, stable and
>well
> > > > mannered. If any of you have never
> > > > had the opportunity to fly your airplane
> > > > single engine down to a landing (I hope you never do) you can rest
> > assured
> > > > that if you keep your wits about you and plan your landing
>thoughtfully
> > -
> > > > your airplane will look after you.
> > > >
> > > > We've just received the new engine that is to be hung on N414C-
>along
> > with
> > > > two overhauled props. We've just finished replacing every hose on
>the
> > > > airplane (some dated to date of manufacture...oops...that slipped
> > through
> > > > the pre-buy...) and have gutted the entire avionics package to make
> > room
> > > > for
> > > > modern technology.
> > > >
> > > > N414C is expected to fly again in late May/early June with a full
>new
> > > > cockpit setup that is built around a two screen Chelton Flight
>Systems
> > > > Synthetic Vision package. Since we were gutting, we're also
>installing
> > two
> > > > Garmin SL30 Nav/Coms, a full set of electric backup 2 inch
> > > > Attitude/Altimeter/Nav gauges, and a PS
> > > > audio control panel. This cockpit
> > > > layout will be a bit unique in that we are putting the navcoms/audio
> > panel
> > > > into a center console along with the color radar unit in order to
>open
> > up
> > > > panel space and arrange things more cleanly for pilot use.
> > > >
> > > > We are also adding a Gemini engine monitoring package to the
>airplane
>in
> > > > order to try and extend engine life as much as possible- and
>possibly
> > see
> > > > any further engine aberrations before the pieces fly out of the
> > cowling...
> > > >
> > > > We are working closely with the great folks at Chelton who are
> > expanding
> > > > the
> > > > STC list for their AP-3C autopilot to include the 685 series
>commanders
> > > > specifically so that we can install the unit on this airplane. We'll
> > > > likely
> > > > have to fly the airplane to Idaho upon completion so that they can
> > > > demonstrate the installation to their FISDO in order to complete the
>STC
> > > > approval- but we felt that this w
> > > > as a small price to pay for the improvement
> > > > in safety and functionality that would come with the new system.
>(Aside
> > > > from which, when the good old M4 stopped working- it was going to
>cost
> > as
> > > > much to repair is it would to install the new Chelton autopilot....)
> > > >
> > > > No decision on overhauling the cabin or repainting the exterior- but
>I'm
> > > > sure these will come in due time. Looking forward to getting this
>grand
> > > > old
> > > > bird flying again in fantastic new style.
> > > >
> > > > For those interested- we estimate that approximately 300lbs of
>weight
> > will
> > > > be shed from the airplane before this overhaul is finished....
> > > >
> > > > My only wish for the airplane is that sometime soon- all of us
>680/685
> > > > owners can get access to an engine that is more dependable than the
> > > > GTSIO-520-Ks.... I really haven't had much chance to work with these
> > > > engines- but from what I've read they can be a temperament
> > > > al lot if not
> > > > cared for precisely in flight. I'm comfortable with the process- but
>it
> > > > would be nice to have an alternative....
> > > >
> > > > At any rate- that's a long winded introduction- but I'm a great fan
>of
> > > > Commander aircraft- and I'm looking forward to expanding my fund of
> > > > knowledge with all of you folks- and hopefully meeting you all one
>day
> > at
> > > > a
> > > > gathering!
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> > > > Robert Randazzo
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Hooray!!!!!!! Now you can come on up to The air show. Go to Google and type
in "Denton Air fair", it is looking to be a big show. My daughter is doing
the marketing and has really spent a lot of time on it. I sure hope the
weather does not turn bad and do it in.
My 500A and I had our 25th anniversary the 1st of April.
Jim Addington
940-566-2651
jtaddington@charter.net
N444BD
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David
Owens
Sent: Wednesday, April 12, 2006 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Desperate For Parts
--> Commander-List message posted by: "David Owens"
<dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
Hey, we got all our parts together finally, and we are in the air. Just got
a new GPS today, soooo... 2 new engines, props, hoses, and more...You
mentioned that there might be a fly-in at your airport? Is that so? I
mentioned it to some of the pilots and my brother, and they all seemed
interested... Let me know if something is in the works. Thanks again for all
of your input on our missing parts delima...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 1:02 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Desperate For Parts
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
>
> Try White Industries if they are still in business. They had a 500A at one
> time, now that I think about it that was over 15 years ago, but you never
> know.
> Jim Addington
> N444BD
> 500A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of steve
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:58 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Desperate For Parts
>
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "steve" <steveg@nternet.com>
>
> David,
>
> Have you tried Jack Chapelle in California? Lots of ACommander goodies at
> 951-371-7513.
>
> Steve G.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Owens
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 10:29 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Desperate For Parts
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "David Owens"
> <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
>
> We inadvertantly lost some airframe parts in the shuffle of cleaning up
> after the hurricane event "Rita" while waiting on the engine from the
> overhaul shop. To be brief, The most sought after item is a 90 degree
elbow
> aluminum cast intake connecting to the fuel controller on the right
engine.
> This part has a large accordian shaped rubber hose that connects to the
air
> filter box attached to the other end. This part only applies to a 500-A
> Commander, and it IS an airframe part. The part number in question is
> 3610274-502. Specific to a Continental 470 or 520 engine. Other parts that
> are missing are the entire baffle assy Intercylinder between 1&3, 2&4,
3&5,
> and 4&6, as well as the supports for the fuel injection lines that connect
> to these baffle assy's on top of the engine. These parts (baffles) are not
> specific to the right engine only, as they are the same part no's for both
> sides. The other items are the two control rods (mixture & throttle)
> connecting to the fuel controlle!
> r from the belcranks. The description in the parts book are "Rod & End
> Assy". Part no's for these are 6900074-579 and 529 respectively. If ANYONE
> out there that knows of a 500A fresh to be parted out that we might
> contact, it would be greatly appreciated. If anyone interested in seeing
> pics of the parts from the other engine for comparison, I will send them
> e-mail in short order. We have been calling and looking for these parts
for
> weeks going on a month now. Waiting to fire up the "new" engine on these
> parts... A O G... I will post if anyone finds these parts or part for
> us.
>
> David Owens
> Aerial Viewpoint
> DW Hooks Airport
> Spring, Texas
> dowens@aerialviewpoint.com
> 500-A Aero Commander
> 14-AV
>
>
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