---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 04/30/06: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:47 AM - Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum (Barry Collman) 2. 04:51 AM - Re: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum (Barry Collman) 3. 05:20 AM - Re: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum (Alberto Shamah) 4. 05:28 AM - Re: sighting for Barry (N395V) 5. 06:21 AM - Re: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum (Barry Collman) 6. 08:08 AM - Re: Re: sighting for Barry (Bill Bow) 7. 11:54 AM - Re: Re: sighting for Barry (Robert S. Randazzo) 8. 12:02 PM - Re: Re: sighting for Barry (Robert S. Randazzo) 9. 08:41 PM - Re: Re: sighting for Barry [bcc][faked-from] (Brock Lorber) 10. 08:48 PM - APS Classes with J. Deakin and friends. (BobsV35B@aol.com) 11. 09:36 PM - More About APS Classes with J. Deakin and friends. (BobsV35B@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:47:43 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: US Air Force Commander conundrum --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Bert, Well, that sounds a little better! Rather pleasing to know that it hasn't been abandoned. Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2006 4:42 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: US Air Force Commander conundrum | --> Commander-List message posted by: | | Barry, | | The reason its outside is because the old meusem was damage and they are now in the process of finishing the new building. It won't be outside for very long. Scott is my little Brother, i'll tell him you were pleased with the photos. | | Bert | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:10 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Scott, Thanks! Bert usually sends me anything he gets, but a check would not go amiss. I'm currently updating my photos/slides/negatives database. Currently comprises 9,029, but I think I've got a few more slides to do. This figure doesn't include the digital images. There are quite a number of duplicate shots in that figure though. One thing I must try to do is compile a 'hit list' of any serial numbers for which I haven't got photographic coverage! Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rockwell273" Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Rockwell273" | | Barry, | | It was my pleasure to go and get the pictures. Bert and I both share an affection for Aero and Jet Commanders. I just haven't expanded my knowledge yet. I have some more photos that I have collected from Bert and the web that I will try and post when I get some spare time. I am sure that you have seen or collected the ones that I have, but just in case I will post them. | | Scott | | | | | Read this topic online here: | | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31752#31752 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:20:35 AM PST US Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum From: "Alberto Shamah" --> Commander-List message posted by: "Alberto Shamah" Were can I see this pictures? =20 Regards =20 Alberto ________________________________ De: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com en nombre de Barry Collman Enviado el: Dom 04/30/2006 06:50 a.m. Para: commander-list@matronics.com Asunto: Re: Commander-List: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" = Hi Scott, Thanks! Bert usually sends me anything he gets, but a check would not go = amiss. I'm currently updating my photos/slides/negatives database. Currently = comprises 9,029, but I think I've got a few more slides to do. This figure doesn't = include the digital images. There are quite a number of duplicate shots in that = figure though. One thing I must try to do is compile a 'hit list' of any serial = numbers for which I haven't got photographic coverage! Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rockwell273" Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 4:36 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Rockwell273" | | Barry, | | It was my pleasure to go and get the pictures. Bert and I both share = an affection for Aero and Jet Commanders. I just haven't expanded my = knowledge yet. I have some more photos that I have collected from Bert and the = web that I will try and post when I get some spare time. I am sure that you have = seen or collected the ones that I have, but just in case I will post them. | | Scott | | | | | Read this topic online here: | | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D31752#31752 | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:28:49 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: sighting for Barry From: "N395V" --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" > Are you telling me my GTSIO-520-Ks might not make it to TBO????? You will replace some cylinders but if you maintain them and fly them right they will go well beyond TBO. I would especially recommend GAMI's and LOP (that should generate some discussion) and attending John Deakins course in ADA OK. -------- Milt N395V F1 Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31782#31782 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:43 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" Hi Alberto, These are in my 'private' collection, built up over the last 40 years or so! Perhaps one day, I'll get them all scanned!! Any whiz-kids out there who can invent a 60-hour day? Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alberto Shamah" Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 1:19 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Alberto Shamah" | | Were can I see this pictures? | =20 | Regards | =20 | Alberto | | ________________________________ | | De: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com en nombre de Barry Collman | Enviado el: Dom 04/30/2006 06:50 a.m. | Para: commander-list@matronics.com | Asunto: Re: Commander-List: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum | | | | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" = | | | Hi Scott, | | Thanks! Bert usually sends me anything he gets, but a check would not go = | amiss. | | I'm currently updating my photos/slides/negatives database. Currently = | comprises | 9,029, but I think I've got a few more slides to do. This figure doesn't = | include | the digital images. There are quite a number of duplicate shots in that = | figure | though. One thing I must try to do is compile a 'hit list' of any serial = | numbers | for which I haven't got photographic coverage! | | Very Best Regards, | Barry | | ----- Original Message ----- | From: "Rockwell273" | To: | Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 4:36 AM | Subject: Commander-List: Re: US Air Force Commander conundrum | | || --> Commander-List message posted by: "Rockwell273" | || || Barry, || || It was my pleasure to go and get the pictures. Bert and I both share = | an | affection for Aero and Jet Commanders. I just haven't expanded my = | knowledge | yet. I have some more photos that I have collected from Bert and the = | web that I | will try and post when I get some spare time. I am sure that you have = | seen or | collected the ones that I have, but just in case I will post them. || || Scott || || || || || Read this topic online here: || || http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=3D31752#31752 || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || || | | | | | | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= | =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:08:07 AM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: sighting for Barry --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" Would that be a course on "How to Double Your Income Without Working"? :>) bilbo -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:29 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: sighting for Barry --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" > Are you telling me my GTSIO-520-Ks might not make it to TBO????? You will replace some cylinders but if you maintain them and fly them right they will go well beyond TBO. I would especially recommend GAMI's and LOP (that should generate some discussion) and attending John Deakins course in ADA OK. -------- Milt N395V F1 Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31782#31782 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:54:47 AM PST US From: "Robert S. Randazzo" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: sighting for Barry --> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" Bilbo- I'll be happy to sell you that course! Three EASY payments! Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bow Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 08:07 Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: sighting for Barry --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" --> Would that be a course on "How to Double Your Income Without Working"? :>) bilbo -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 8:29 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: sighting for Barry --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" > Are you telling me my GTSIO-520-Ks might not make it to TBO????? You will replace some cylinders but if you maintain them and fly them right they will go well beyond TBO. I would especially recommend GAMI's and LOP (that should generate some discussion) and attending John Deakins course in ADA OK. -------- Milt N395V F1 Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31782#31782 __________ NOD32 1.1514 (20060430) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:50 PM PST US From: "Robert S. Randazzo" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: sighting for Barry --> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" Milt- I've heard that I'll be using cylinders. That doesn't worry me nearly as much as the engine replacement type work we are doing now. LOP/ROP... A bit like "pitch or power" controls glidepath. Seriously- I'd be interested in learning best techniques for operating 520-K engines. Can you give more information on John Deakins and his course? I have read the Operator's Manual published in 1988 by TCM and they recommend 100C ROP for EGT leaning and 50C ROP for leanest cylinder leaning. My engine mechanic is strongly opinionated to ROP as well, although I want to educate myself a bit before asking him why. (I'm a turbine guy- and aside from the T-6, I don't have a lot of current recip experience. The Pratt on the T-6 is probably the finest engine I've ever flown and you could put marbles in the oil and it would continue to run....) Rob N414C -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2006 05:29 Subject: Commander-List: Re: sighting for Barry --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" > Are you telling me my GTSIO-520-Ks might not make it to TBO????? You will replace some cylinders but if you maintain them and fly them right they will go well beyond TBO. I would especially recommend GAMI's and LOP (that should generate some discussion) and attending John Deakins course in ADA OK. -------- Milt N395V F1 Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=31782#31782 __________ NOD32 1.1514 (20060430) Information __________ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 08:41:11 PM PST US From: Brock Lorber Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: sighting for Barry [bcc][faked-from] --> Commander-List message posted by: Brock Lorber Robert S. Randazzo wrote: >Seriously- I'd be interested in learning best techniques for operating 520-K >engines. Can you give more information on John Deakins and his course? I >have read the Operator's Manual published in 1988 by TCM and they recommend >100C ROP for EGT leaning and 50C ROP for leanest cylinder leaning. My >engine mechanic is strongly opinionated to ROP as well, although I want to >educate myself a bit before asking him why. > >Rob >N414C > > Rob: Go to AvWeb.com and search for "Pelican". Read till your eyes bleed. :) ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:48:33 PM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: APS Classes with J. Deakin and friends. --> Commander-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com Good Evening Rob and Brock, May I suggest a short cut to John's articles and the course which he, Walter Atkinson and George Braly provide in Ada, Oklahoma? Try: _http://www.advancedpilot.com/_ (http://www.advancedpilot.com/) Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8503 In a message dated 4/30/2006 10:42:06 P.M. Central Standard Time, blorber@southwestcirrus.com writes: > Rob: Go to AvWeb.com and search for "Pelican". Read till your eyes bleed. :) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:36:10 PM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Commander-List: More About APS Classes with J. Deakin and friends. --> Commander-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com Good Evening Again Folks, A few minutes ago I sent a message recommending that everyone go to the APS website to easily access John Deakin's engine management articles that were originally on AvWeb. I just checked to see if my advice was good and find that they have realigned the website. John's articles are no longer on the home page. You need to click on the TECH button then look for the blurb on the lower left side of the page that has all of the pertinent Deakin articles. In a message dated 4/30/2006 10:48:08 P.M. Central Standard Time, Bobs V35B writes: Good Evening Rob and Brock, May I suggest a short cut to John's articles and the course which he, Walter Atkinson and George Braly provide in Ada, Oklahoma? Try: _http://www.advancedpilot.com/_ (http://www.advancedpilot.com/) Happy Skies, Old Bob