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1. 03:08 AM - Re: site (Robert S. Randazzo)
2. 03:56 AM - Balanced Field Length. Was: site (BobsV35B@aol.com)
3. 04:27 AM - Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (N395V)
4. 04:37 AM - Re: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (BobsV35B@aol.com)
5. 06:45 AM - Re: Attention K Mart shoppers (BertBerry1@aol.com)
6. 06:46 AM - Re: site (Jim Addington)
7. 08:57 AM - Re: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (John Vormbaum)
8. 09:01 AM - Re: site (John Vormbaum)
9. 09:30 AM - Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (N395V)
10. 09:39 AM - Re: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (nico css)
11. 09:46 AM - Re: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (BillLeff1@aol.com)
12. 10:36 AM - 680 FLP heater intake scoop (Tom Fisher)
13. 11:54 AM - Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (Robert S. Randazzo)
14. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (Robert S. Randazzo)
15. 12:10 PM - Re: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (Robert S. Randazzo)
16. 12:12 PM - Re: 680 FLP heater intake scoop (Robert S. Randazzo)
17. 12:28 PM - Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (BobsV35B@aol.com)
18. 12:50 PM - Re: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (Jim Addington)
19. 01:31 PM - Re: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (nico css)
20. 02:22 PM - spam (Bill Bow)
21. 03:10 PM - Re: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (Jim Addington)
22. 03:16 PM - Re: spam (Jim Addington)
23. 03:18 PM - Re: spam (Tom Fisher)
24. 03:31 PM - Re: spam (Bill Bow)
25. 03:38 PM - Re: spam (Tom Fisher)
26. 03:38 PM - Re: Attention K Mart shoppers (Bill Bow)
27. 07:16 PM - Re: spam (N395V)
28. 07:49 PM - AC500 (steve)
29. 08:28 PM - Re: Re: spam (Tom Fisher)
30. 09:02 PM - Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site (Allen Reed)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Jim-
I zoomed in the google earth photo- and I saw a little sign about half way
down the runway that reads: "Free lunch for all commander owners."
Too bad I can't get a balanced field length for the 685 on 2600' of turf....
;-)
Robert Randazzo
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Subject: RE: Commander-List: site
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Type in 4TX8
Jim
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Subject: Commander-List: site
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I found this site the other day. It's kind of interesting.
bilbo
http://www.airport-data.com/search/search2.html?field=model
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--> Commander-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com
Good Morning Robert,
Even for a free lunch?
Just as an observation, how important is a balanced field length?
I certainly would prefer to have such available, but there are always
Risk/Reward evaluations to be made.
It has been a long time, but it is my recollection that the landing strip at
Camp David was no where near 2600 feet long when President Eisenhower was
using it with an Aero Commander.
Admittedly, they no longer fly fixed wing airplanes into or out of Camp
David and that is probably due to the lack of a balanced field length, but it is
interesting that a balanced field length was not felt to be required at the
time Ike (a licensed pilot) was Commander In Chief.
If the flight into an airport that does not provide a balanced field length
avoids an automobile drive across fifty miles of mountain roads, which is the
safest?
As Always, It All Depends!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 5/26/2006 5:08:47 A.M. Central Standard Time,
rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com writes:
Jim-
I zoomed in the google earth photo- and I saw a little sign about half way
down the runway that reads: "Free lunch for all commander owners."
Too bad I can't get a balanced field length for the 685 on 2600' of turf....
;-)
Robert Randazzo
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| Subject: | Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
Crunk, who frequently flew a 520 and 560F in and out of a 2100' grass strip conveyed
a really great philosophy to on of his neighbors who objected to his Twins
at their little airpark.
His neighbors objection was that if Jim lost an engine before he could fly say
1500' Jim would end up in the pond at the end of the strip.
Jim smiled and said yes you are correct. I will be right there in the pond with
you when you lose your single engine at the same spot in the takeoff.
yes there are tradeoffs but we all used to and still do fly single engine planes
knowing that if we lose one we are going off field.
Having said that I do not think 2600' of grass is a good idea in a loaded 685.
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Milt
N395V
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| Subject: | Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site |
--> Commander-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com
In a message dated 5/26/2006 6:27:35 A.M. Central Standard Time,
n395v@hughes.net writes:
Having said that I do not think 2600' of grass is a good idea in a loaded
685.
Even for a free lunch?
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
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| Subject: | Re: Attention K Mart shoppers |
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Bill,
Would it be possible to get some photos of N100PV when she arrives?
THanks,
Bert
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
That is what the sign said.
Jim
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Randazzo
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 5:07 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
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Jim-
I zoomed in the google earth photo- and I saw a little sign about half way
down the runway that reads: "Free lunch for all commander owners."
Too bad I can't get a balanced field length for the 685 on 2600' of turf....
;-)
Robert Randazzo
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Addington
Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 20:48
Subject: RE: Commander-List: site
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Type in 4TX8
Jim
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Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2006 5:47 PM
Subject: Commander-List: site
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I found this site the other day. It's kind of interesting.
bilbo
http://www.airport-data.com/search/search2.html?field=model
<http://www.airport-data.com/search/search2.html?field=model&code=Aero+comma
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| Subject: | Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Bob,
"There's no such thing as a free lunch!"
I think that would be especially true of a loaded 685 on a 2,600-ft. runway.
Unless, of course, you're talking about the scavengers at the end of the
runway. They might even have a free BBQ.
What Morris has always said about the 685 is, "if you can see the end of the
runway, it's not long enough!"
> Having said that I do not think 2600' of grass is a good idea in a loaded
> 685.
>
> Even for a free lunch?
>
> Happy Skies,
>
> Old Bob
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Show-off!
/John
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> Jim
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> I found this site the other day. It's kind of interesting.
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> bilbo
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| Subject: | Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site |
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[quote=Even for a free lunch?[/quote]
Not even if lunch involved Nicole Kidman in a significant way.
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
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| Subject: | Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Now, wait a cotton-pickin' minute there, Milt.
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:30 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site
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[quote=Even for a free lunch?[/quote]
Not even if lunch involved Nicole Kidman in a significant way.
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N395V
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--> Commander-List message posted by: BillLeff1@aol.com
There was a guy who operated a 685 from an 1800 ft grass strip in Wisconsin.
I still have some pieces of it from the crash site! It worked O)K until an
engine quit!
Bill Leff
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| Subject: | 680 FLP heater intake scoop |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Gentlemen,
Amongst the many deficiencies that I have had to rectify to bring this ship
up to standard one of the items is the intake scoop that fits on the
rectangular opening on top of the baggage compartment that feeds the
heater/air conditioner system in the tail.
Does anyone know where I could find one of these ?
Tom F.
C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
O.B.
Well- the word "FREE" is a very compelling one to the airline pilot side of
my personality... UAL trained me well...
In fact- one could argue that the logical extension of their training would
be to have me fly for free- but I fell out of the nest before indoctrination
was completed. (That's a discussion for another day. ;-) hehehe )
I joked about the BFL- and in actuality I never used one in my personal
flying until this airplane. The 685 is a marvelously capable airplane- but
I never lose sight of the fact that I have 435hp per side where the turbo
commander version of this same airframe has 700.... Out here in Nevada-
there isn't an airport to be found that doesn't have rising terrain in at
least 2 quadrants- so I've upped the safety cushion on my flying to ensure
I never find myself without any options. (Anyone ever notice that they
always point the longest runway at the highest terrain? Why IS that????)
I routinely fly the SNJ-6 into Quincy, CA for breakfast- and while that
runway is *just* long enough for the 685- I shudder to think of my options
in the event of a failure... Even in the SNJ I have to circle the valley a
few times to climb about the surrounding ridges...
I think all that airline training whipped the dare-devil right out of me.
:-)
Hows that stearman, Bob? That's an airplane I've never flown but always
admired....
Robert Randazzo
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BobsV35B@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 03:56
Subject: Balanced Field Length. Was: Commander-List: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com
Good Morning Robert,
Even for a free lunch?
Just as an observation, how important is a balanced field length?
I certainly would prefer to have such available, but there are always
Risk/Reward evaluations to be made.
It has been a long time, but it is my recollection that the landing strip
at Camp David was no where near 2600 feet long when President Eisenhower was
using it with an Aero Commander.
Admittedly, they no longer fly fixed wing airplanes into or out of Camp
David and that is probably due to the lack of a balanced field length, but
it is interesting that a balanced field length was not felt to be required
at the time Ike (a licensed pilot) was Commander In Chief.
If the flight into an airport that does not provide a balanced field length
avoids an automobile drive across fifty miles of mountain roads, which is
the safest?
As Always, It All Depends!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 5/26/2006 5:08:47 A.M. Central Standard Time,
rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com writes:
Jim-
I zoomed in the google earth photo- and I saw a little sign about half way
down the runway that reads: "Free lunch for all commander owners."
Too bad I can't get a balanced field length for the 685 on 2600' of
turf....
;-)
Robert Randazzo
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| Subject: | Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Free lunch AND Nicole? Hmmmm...
<Scratches chin a moment and subtracts 20C from the field temp>
It might work.......
Rob
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 09:30
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
[quote=Even for a free lunch?[/quote]
Not even if lunch involved Nicole Kidman in a significant way.
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
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| Subject: | Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Hey Bill!
I read that NTSB report when I first started looking at this airplane- and I
think that one officially fell into the category of: "He did what????"
For those who haven't read it:
http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=CHI97LA011&rpt=fa
(The runway was 1400 feet......OUCH)
Rob
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
BillLeff1@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 09:46
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: BillLeff1@aol.com
There was a guy who operated a 685 from an 1800 ft grass strip in
Wisconsin.
I still have some pieces of it from the crash site! It worked O)K until an
engine quit!
Bill Leff
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| Subject: | 680 FLP heater intake scoop |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Tom-
Try Oklahoma Air Parts... Ask for Joe (I think?) Popkin. I recently
purchasd a turbo from him- and he mentioned that he has a significant number
of parts "just about anything you'd need."
He might be able to help... I can't find the number- its in the hangar. If
you need it- let me know and I'll make it a point to stop there this
weekend.
Rob
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Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 10:35
Subject: Commander-List: 680 FLP heater intake scoop
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
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Gentlemen,
Amongst the many deficiencies that I have had to rectify to bring this ship
up to standard one of the items is the intake scoop that fits on the
rectangular opening on top of the baggage compartment that feeds the
heater/air conditioner system in the tail.
Does anyone know where I could find one of these ?
Tom F.
C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com
In a message dated 5/26/2006 1:55:21 P.M. Central Standard Time,
rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com writes:
I think all that airline training whipped the dare-devil right out of me.
:-)
Hows that Stearman, Bob? That's an airplane I've never flown but always
admired....
Robert Randazzo
Good Afternoon Robert,
UAL worked on me for thirty-eight years and didn't break my spirit at all!
Stick in there and you will survive!
The Stearman is a blast! Stop in if you are ever over this way. You can try
it out.
Do Not Archive
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
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| Subject: | Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
I opened up 500' on the north end and 250' on the south end, but to get that
on the map would have required an other study so they told me to just put it
down as over run. It was never a problem for my 500A even with just 2600'. I
rented my plane to an FAA airport inspector that said he went in and out of
a 1000' strip in Alaska. I can get it down in a 1000' but getting off
usually takes 1200', don't how he did it unless he had a good wind.
Jim Addington
N444BD 500A
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N395V
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
Crunk, who frequently flew a 520 and 560F in and out of a 2100' grass strip
conveyed a really great philosophy to on of his neighbors who objected to
his Twins at their little airpark.
His neighbors objection was that if Jim lost an engine before he could fly
say 1500' Jim would end up in the pond at the end of the strip.
Jim smiled and said yes you are correct. I will be right there in the pond
with you when you lose your single engine at the same spot in the takeoff.
yes there are tradeoffs but we all used to and still do fly single engine
planes knowing that if we lose one we are going off field.
Having said that I do not think 2600' of grass is a good idea in a loaded
685.
--------
Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
It all depends on what he ate, I guess.
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Addington
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
I opened up 500' on the north end and 250' on the south end, but to get that
on the map would have required an other study so they told me to just put it
down as over run. It was never a problem for my 500A even with just 2600'. I
rented my plane to an FAA airport inspector that said he went in and out of
a 1000' strip in Alaska. I can get it down in a 1000' but getting off
usually takes 1200', don't how he did it unless he had a good wind.
Jim Addington
N444BD 500A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N395V
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
Crunk, who frequently flew a 520 and 560F in and out of a 2100' grass strip
conveyed a really great philosophy to on of his neighbors who objected to
his Twins at their little airpark.
His neighbors objection was that if Jim lost an engine before he could fly
say 1500' Jim would end up in the pond at the end of the strip.
Jim smiled and said yes you are correct. I will be right there in the pond
with you when you lose your single engine at the same spot in the takeoff.
yes there are tradeoffs but we all used to and still do fly single engine
planes knowing that if we lose one we are going off field.
Having said that I do not think 2600' of grass is a good idea in a loaded
685.
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Am I still spam?
bb
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| Subject: | Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Had not thought about that, maybe he was getting a bean boost.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of nico css
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 3:30 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
It all depends on what he ate, I guess.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
I opened up 500' on the north end and 250' on the south end, but to get that
on the map would have required an other study so they told me to just put it
down as over run. It was never a problem for my 500A even with just 2600'. I
rented my plane to an FAA airport inspector that said he went in and out of
a 1000' strip in Alaska. I can get it down in a 1000' but getting off
usually takes 1200', don't how he did it unless he had a good wind.
Jim Addington
N444BD 500A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of N395V
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:27 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Balanced Field Length. Was: site
--> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
Crunk, who frequently flew a 520 and 560F in and out of a 2100' grass strip
conveyed a really great philosophy to on of his neighbors who objected to
his Twins at their little airpark.
His neighbors objection was that if Jim lost an engine before he could fly
say 1500' Jim would end up in the pond at the end of the strip.
Jim smiled and said yes you are correct. I will be right there in the pond
with you when you lose your single engine at the same spot in the takeoff.
yes there are tradeoffs but we all used to and still do fly single engine
planes knowing that if we lose one we are going off field.
Having said that I do not think 2600' of grass is a good idea in a loaded
685.
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Any thing you need sent let me know.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Bow
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:22 PM
Subject: Commander-List: spam
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Am I still spam?
bb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
I am.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 14:22
Subject: Commander-List: spam
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
>
> Am I still spam?
>
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> bb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
No.
Thanks to Matt, I am no longer spam in the eyes of the list. I have been
cleansed, Alleluia!
I am still spam in the eyes of one cperry@subictel.com . They have
earthlink on their spam list so I get crap from them.
bilbo
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: spam
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
Any thing you need sent let me know.
Jim
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Bow
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:22 PM
Subject: Commander-List: spam
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Am I still spam?
bb
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
That is the same site that tells me that my mail was not delivered because
it was considered spam, I have no idea what to do about it.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 15:31
Subject: RE: Commander-List: spam
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
>
> No.
> Thanks to Matt, I am no longer spam in the eyes of the list. I have been
> cleansed, Alleluia!
>
> I am still spam in the eyes of one cperry@subictel.com . They have
> earthlink on their spam list so I get crap from them.
>
> bilbo
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
> Addington
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 6:16 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: spam
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
> <jtaddington@charter.net>
>
> Any thing you need sent let me know.
>
> Jim
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bill Bow
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 4:22 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: spam
>
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
>
> Am I still spam?
>
>
> bb
>
>
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| Subject: | Attention K Mart shoppers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
I'm at work and won't be able to get home until late next week.
I would recommend calling Don at Don at 352 429 9017.
He might be able to handle that.
bb
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
BertBerry1@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Attention K Mart shoppers
--> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
Bill,
Would it be possible to get some photos of N100PV when she arrives?
THanks,
Bert
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
bowing74(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> Am I still spam?bb
This all sounds like a BowJob to me.
Do not archive
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N395V
F1 Rocket
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "steve" <steveg@nternet.com>
Does anyone know who owns AC500 N503RT? FAA shows D&B Services of Maricopa
AZ. A selfish reason is that she is on the ramp here in Kerrville where I
flew my Bo to be with the family for the holiday. Most of you will remember
I was 1/2 owner of an AC500 N6291B. I would hope to meet the owner/pilot
and maybe get a closer look before going home.
Steve Gilson
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
I used to fly an S61N and a B212 helicopter for a firm called Bow
Helicopters (a division of Bow Valley).
They had T-shirts with "Happiness is a Bow job" on them.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
Sent: Friday, May 26, 2006 19:16
Subject: Commander-List: Re: spam
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
>
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> bowing74(at)earthlink.net wrote:
> > Am I still spam?bb
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> This all sounds like a BowJob to me.
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> Do not archive
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> Milt
> N395V
> F1 Rocket
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Allen Reed" <allen_reed2@hotmail.com>
Lucille made it in and out of our 1700 ft strip,with half a field to spare!=
Big
> From: BobsV35B@aol.com> Date: Fri, 26 May 2006 06:55:33 -0400> Subject: B=
alanced Field Length. Was: Commander-List: site> To: commander-list@matroni=
cs.com> > --> Commander-List message posted by: BobsV35B@aol.com> > > > G=
ood Morning Robert, > > Even for a free lunch?> > Just as an observation,=
how important is a balanced field length? > > I certainly would prefer to=
have such available, but there are always > Risk/Reward evaluations to be=
made. > > It has been a long time, but it is my recollection that the lan=
ding strip at > Camp David was no where near 2600 feet long when President=
Eisenhower was > using it with an Aero Commander. > > Admittedly, they n=
o longer fly fixed wing airplanes into or out of Camp > David and that is =
probably due to the lack of a balanced field length, but it is > interesti=
ng that a balanced field length was not felt to be required at the > time =
Ike (a licensed pilot) was Commander In Chief.> > If the flight into an ai=
rport that does not provide a balanced field length > avoids an automobile=
drive across fifty miles of mountain roads, which is the > safest?> > As=
Always, It All Depends!> > Happy Skies,> > Old Bob> AKA> Bob Siegfried> =
Ancient Aviator> Stearman N3977A> Brookeridge Air Park LL22> Downers Grove=
, IL 60516> 630 985-8503> > > In a message dated 5/26/2006 5:08:47 A.M. C=
entral Standard Time, > rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com writes:> > Jim-> >=
I zoomed in the google earth photo- and I saw a little sign about half wa=
y> down the runway that reads: "Free lunch for all commander owners."> > =
Too bad I can't get a balanced field length for the 685 on 2600' of turf..=
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