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1. 05:25 AM - SCARY? (Dan Farmer)
2. 06:17 AM - Re: SCARY? (BertBerry1@aol.com)
3. 08:11 AM - Re: SCARY? (Jim Addington)
4. 08:13 AM - Re: SCARY? (Don Girod)
5. 09:05 AM - Paint and Interior (Dave Phifer)
6. 09:29 AM - Re: Paint and Interior (Don Girod)
7. 10:35 AM - Re: Paint and Interior (Stan)
8. 11:17 AM - 680 FLP heater intake scoop (Tom Fisher)
9. 11:28 AM - Re: Paint and Interior (Robert S. Randazzo)
10. 01:04 PM - Re: Paint and Interior (MASON Chevaillier)
11. 08:32 PM - Re: SCARY? (W J R HAMILTON)
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
FLAPS, DOGS, NAKED GRANDMOTHERS, You guys have not an idea of whats scary. You
should have to shut down an engine in a B52 --it will curdle your blood to
only have SEVEN left. :-))
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--> Commander-List message posted by: BertBerry1@aol.com
Now there is a man living on the edge!!!
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
Dan, I thought we had a scary thing when we had one stuck at 90% and had to
shut it on the B-47. We still had 5 left though.
Jim Addington
N444BD
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Dan
Farmer
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 7:23 AM
Subject: Commander-List: SCARY?
--> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
FLAPS, DOGS, NAKED GRANDMOTHERS, You guys have not an idea of whats scary.
You should have to shut down an engine in a B52 --it will curdle your blood
to only have SEVEN left. :-))
do not archive
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Don Girod" <dongirod@bellsouth.net>
FLAPS, DOGS, NAKED GRANDMOTHERS, You guys have not an idea of whats scary.
You should have to shut down an engine in a B52 --it will curdle your blood
to only have SEVEN left. :-))
do not archive
I remember reading about a fighter pilot on bingo fuel being told to follow
a B-52 making the dreaded seven engine approach.
Don
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| Subject: | Paint and Interior |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer <dave@phifersystems.com>
Being new to "Commander land", who are the paint and interior shops that
are thought of in high regard by Commander owners? As I contemplate the
purchase of a Commander, I'd like to speak with an experienced shop or two
to get an idea of what interior refurbishment and paint would cost.
I realize you can pretty much spend as much as you want and repairs can be
at "who knows what cost", but I'm really looking for "very nice but not
extravagant" pricing to build a realistic financial model.
Thanks in advance for your help.
-Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Paint and Interior |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Don Girod" <dongirod@bellsouth.net>
Dave;
I have a 560E, two years ago, I had it stripped, joints sealed, a few wing
dents removed, new cowling screws and all the other things that go along
with a nice paint job. Then the quoted price was about $12,500 for the
basic strip and paint, but the extras usually add a couple extra thousand
dollars. This was done in the Atlanta area. Where do you live?
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Phifer" <dave@phifersystems.com>
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:05 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Paint and Interior
> --> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer <dave@phifersystems.com>
>
> Being new to "Commander land", who are the paint and interior shops that
> are thought of in high regard by Commander owners? As I contemplate the
> purchase of a Commander, I'd like to speak with an experienced shop or two
> to get an idea of what interior refurbishment and paint would cost.
>
> I realize you can pretty much spend as much as you want and repairs can be
> at "who knows what cost", but I'm really looking for "very nice but not
> extravagant" pricing to build a realistic financial model.
>
> Thanks in advance for your help.
>
> -Dave
>
>
> --
>
>
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| Subject: | Paint and Interior |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Stan" <swperk@earthlink.net>
Hi Dave,
Premier Aviation in Tucson repainted my 681 last summer and their
process was to strip, buff with ScotchBrite, acid etch, alodine,
primer, and paint with two base coats of JetGlo and then apply the color
striping. They also took care of some minor dents and replaced the
exterior hardware with stainless. The original quote was around $16K
(IIRC) but with the "extras" (like the seam sealing I asked them to do
after the original quote), the final price was just north of $20K.
The quality and durability is excellent. Donny, their painter, has been
painting planes for over thirty years. I would recommend Premier without
hesitation.
Stan
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave
Phifer
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 9:05 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Paint and Interior
--> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer
--> <dave@phifersystems.com>
Being new to "Commander land", who are the paint and interior shops that
are thought of in high regard by Commander owners? As I contemplate the
purchase of a Commander, I'd like to speak with an experienced shop or
two
to get an idea of what interior refurbishment and paint would cost.
I realize you can pretty much spend as much as you want and repairs can
be
at "who knows what cost", but I'm really looking for "very nice but not
extravagant" pricing to build a realistic financial model.
Thanks in advance for your help.
-Dave
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| Subject: | 680 FLP heater intake scoop |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Someone responded to my request (below) but I must have mistakenly deleted
the Email, would they (oe someone) be kind enough to help me out again?
Thanks.
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Gentlemen,
Amongst the many deficiencies that I have had to rectify to bring this ship
up to standard one of the items is the intake scoop that fits on the
rectangular opening on top of the baggage compartment that feeds the
heater/air conditioner system in the tail.
Does anyone know where I could find one of these ?
Tom F.
C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
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| Subject: | Paint and Interior |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Hi Dave!
I am searching for same- so be sure to share your findings!
I am about 12 months from interior/repaint- so I'm not taking that part of
the search too seriously yet....
Rob
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Phifer
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 09:05
Subject: Commander-List: Paint and Interior
--> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer
--> <dave@phifersystems.com>
Being new to "Commander land", who are the paint and interior shops that are
thought of in high regard by Commander owners? As I contemplate the
purchase of a Commander, I'd like to speak with an experienced shop or two
to get an idea of what interior refurbishment and paint would cost.
I realize you can pretty much spend as much as you want and repairs can be
at "who knows what cost", but I'm really looking for "very nice but not
extravagant" pricing to build a realistic financial model.
Thanks in advance for your help.
-Dave
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| Subject: | Paint and Interior |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "MASON Chevaillier" <kamala@msn.com>
for paint i can recommend Texas AeroColor in Brady, texas. they do a lot
of war birds and unlimited racers. hanger set up just for painting.
plexiglass doors on both ends for natural light. uses hydrogen peroxide to
strip a/c non corrosive. all epa set up. has done a queen air for me and
a duke for a friend. $15,000. quote for my 680 fp. mason
>From: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: RE: Commander-List: Paint and Interior
>Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2006 11:28:24 -0700
>
>--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
><rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
>
>Hi Dave!
>
>I am searching for same- so be sure to share your findings!
>
>I am about 12 months from interior/repaint- so I'm not taking that part of
>the search too seriously yet....
>
>Rob
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Phifer
>Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 09:05
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Commander-List: Paint and Interior
>
>--> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer
>--> <dave@phifersystems.com>
>
>Being new to "Commander land", who are the paint and interior shops that
>are
>thought of in high regard by Commander owners? As I contemplate the
>purchase of a Commander, I'd like to speak with an experienced shop or two
>to get an idea of what interior refurbishment and paint would cost.
>
>I realize you can pretty much spend as much as you want and repairs can be
>at "who knows what cost", but I'm really looking for "very nice but not
>extravagant" pricing to build a realistic financial model.
>
>Thanks in advance for your help.
>
>-Dave
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: W J R HAMILTON <wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>
Folks,
Aaaaaaahhhh!! The dreaded seven engine approach.
Reminds me of the old saw about 4, v.3 v. 2 engines, EROPS, etc., and
a very grizzled old Captain, when questioned as to his views, said: "
When the Flight Engineer say --- Engine Failure No.6, Captain, I want
to be able to reply --- Port or Starboard".
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
At 10:23 PM 2/06/2006, you wrote:
>--> Commander-List message posted by: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
>
> FLAPS, DOGS, NAKED GRANDMOTHERS, You guys have not an idea of
> whats scary. You should have to shut down an engine in a B52 --it
> will curdle your blood to only have SEVEN left. :-))
> do not archive
>
> __________________________________________________
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