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1. 05:33 AM - Re: Re: Probes of cargo crashes often pin blame on pilots (Bill Bow)
2. 06:22 AM - Re: Re: Probes of cargo crashes often pin blame on pilots (Deneal Schilmeister (Portege))
3. 07:01 PM - Re: Re: Probes of cargo crashes often pin (W J R HAMILTON)
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Subject: | Re: Probes of cargo crashes often pin blame on pilots |
After 26 years of night freight I have observed that freight moves at night
and the FAA works 9AM to 5PM. They only come out at night when the
absolutely have to. When they do, they may or may not know what is going on
in the airplane. When I flew Electras there were only 2 or three FAA people
in the country who had even the faintest idea of how it worked or whether it
was working correctly. Ours NEVER were.
So there are no cops watching then to keep them honest.
I think Mr. Tower is one, but would be hard pressed to name another.
bilbo
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pilots
In a message dated 7/10/2006 3:27:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
skyhawkc-172@comcast.net writes:
Maybe some cargo operators should take notice at what JT has done...
AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!! jb
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Subject: | Re: Probes of cargo crashes often pin blame on pilots |
Hi Bilbo:
I agree with you re the FAA, but I can recall a few ramp checks at night
in
FAA-located airports on nights before 3 day weekends.
When I first knew John Towner, I was impressed on how seriously he took
the
flying freight business. I know of another Commander freight guy out
west
in the late 1970s who made his planes freighters by cutting out the rear
bulkhead of his 680s.
John Towner made a process out of taking old Commanders and turning them
into reliable STANDARDIZED freighters.
Some of you may be old enough to remember that these airplanes were
equipped
in all sorts of different ways. I'm sure Jimbo can attest to the weird
things that owners would put in their planes.
John would start out by ripping out the original instrument panels and
install standard instruments and a whole new King IFR radio stack. This
would ease pilot training and pilot confusion. He insisted on front
door
airplanes, and I believe he even installed a front door on at least one
airplane. He finished up by repainting his airplanes in a standardized
paint job.
In the last few years he has abandoned the standard paint, not wanting
to
appear obvious as an air carrier. (Although most aviators, seeing a 500B
flying at night, would be 90% sure it was a Central Air commander)
He provided the test-bed plane for the Cleveland Brakes STC. He was on
the
forefront when new improved lightweight starters were made available,
and of
course, he is known for his development of the TKS icing system. And
just
this year, he and his son Andrew have developed a computerized view
Commander simulator, Not to mention having the relationships required
to
have Bob Hoover fly his airshow at a company picnic at least two times!
For a night freight guy, in a world of fly-by-night operators, John
Towner
is different. He really cares. Once we had a guy run a 690A out of
fuel.
He walked away from a night crash landing. I was mad because this
particular
690 was my favorite airplane in our fleet at the time. But the very
next
day, John asked me to take this pilot up for a little recurrent
training, to
help the pilot's confidence by getting him "back on the horse" right
away.
He truly cares for people and should be in the Commander Hall of Fame.
26
years after I first met him, we are still friends.
<\soapbox>
___________________________
Deneal Schilmeister
St. Louis - Cincinnati
1997 SL500
http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bow
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 7:32 AM
on
pilots
After 26 years of night freight I have observed that freight moves at
night
and the FAA works 9AM to 5PM. They only come out at night when the
absolutely have to. When they do, they may or may not know what is
going on
in the airplane. When I flew Electras there were only 2 or three FAA
people
in the country who had even the faintest idea of how it worked or
whether it
was working correctly. Ours NEVER were.
So there are no cops watching then to keep them honest.
I think Mr. Towner is one, but would be hard pressed to name another.
bilbo
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Subject: | Re: Probes of cargo crashes often pin |
Bilbo and all,
In our part of the world, the "mermaids" do work at night, maybe they
are on a performance bonus.
Thus for Alice Springs, in the "dead centre" of Australia, heard on
the ATIS, "Information XXXX, RW yy, wind XXX/XX, QNH XXXX, CAVOK,
mermaids in areas, on first contact with Alice tower, confirm you
have information XXXX.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
PS Flying Operations Inspectors ---- aka Mermaids ---- "C--ts with scales."
At 10:31 PM 11/07/2006, you wrote:
>After 26 years of night freight I have observed that freight moves
>at night and the FAA works 9AM to 5PM. They only come out at night
>when the absolutely have to. When they do, they may or may not know
>what is going on in the airplane. When I flew Electras there were
>only 2 or three FAA people in the country who had even the faintest
>idea of how it worked or whether it was working correctly. Ours NEVER were.
>
>So there are no cops watching then to keep them honest.
>
>I think Mr. Tower is one, but would be hard pressed to name another.
>bilbo
>
>
>----------
>From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
>YOURTCFG@aol.com
>Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 12:21 AM
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Probes of cargo crashes often pin
>blame on pilots
>
>In a message dated 7/10/2006 3:27:42 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>skyhawkc-172@comcast.net writes:
>Maybe some cargo operators should take notice at what JT has done...
>
>AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!! jb
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