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1. 04:16 AM - Re: Autopilots for the 520 (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
2. 06:31 AM - Re: Gust Lock ()
3. 06:47 AM - Re: Gust Lock (David Owens)
4. 06:51 AM - Re: Gust Lock (David Owens)
5. 09:57 AM - Re: Gust Lock (Bill Bow)
6. 10:22 AM - Re: Gust Lock (John Vormbaum)
7. 10:39 AM - Re: Gust Lock (Robert S. Randazzo)
8. 10:47 AM - Part numbers (Tom Fisher)
9. 11:02 AM - Re: Part numbers (CloudCraft@aol.com)
10. 11:04 AM - Re: Part numbers ()
11. 11:27 AM - Re: Part numbers (mike floyd)
12. 12:58 PM - Re: Part numbers (Tom Fisher)
13. 01:13 PM - Re: Part numbers ()
14. 01:13 PM - Re: Part numbers (John Vormbaum)
15. 01:25 PM - Re: Part numbers (mike floyd)
16. 01:51 PM - Re: Gust Lock (Donnie Rose)
17. 01:53 PM - rgl (Donnie Rose)
18. 01:57 PM - Re: Gust Lock (Donnie Rose)
19. 01:58 PM - Re: Gust Lock (Donnie Rose)
20. 02:27 PM - Re: Part numbers (Tom Fisher)
21. 04:28 PM - Re: Autopilots for the 520 (Moe)
22. 04:31 PM - Re: Part numbers (Moe)
23. 08:23 PM - Re: Part numbers (Tom Fisher)
24. 09:19 PM - Re: Part numbers (Tylor Hall)
25. 09:50 PM - Re: Part numbers (mike floyd)
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| Subject: | Re: Autopilots for the 520 |
recommend you contact commander aero for instalation of century 2000
system. it is great and is now stc d for 680. mason
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From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com<mailto:WINGFLYER1@aol.com>
To: commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Autopilots for the 520
You may want to talk with Auto-pilot Central in Tulsa. They have a
complete list of auto-pilots for all aircraft. I had inquired about a
system for my 680. Gil
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
That's a smart instructor.
Phil Stubbs
> [Original Message]
> From: Randy Dettmer, AIA <rcdettmer@charter.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 7/18/2006 7:09:49 PM
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Randy Dettmer, AIA"
<rcdettmer@charter.net>
>
> When I was transitioning into my 680F, I forget the gust lock. My
> instructor knew that I had forgotten it, and let me start the engines and
> get ready to taxi, when I realized that the rudders were rigid...oops.
Had
> to shut down, go out and remove the gust lock. I've never forgotten
since.
>
> Randy Dettmer,
> 680F / N6253X
>
> DettmerArchitecture
> 663 Hill Street, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
> 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
> www.dettmerarchitecture.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of mike floyd
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:54 PM
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" <floydgm@hotmail.com>
>
> Sporty's has a Remove Before Flight key chain. Works well on the control
> yoke.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
Hang a 6 to 7 foot piece of red material (like woven tie-downs) off the gust
lock you insert through the rudder and you cant miss it in your
pre-flight...
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
Has anyone heard of the guy that just could not remember the lock, and had a
tie down installed and attached it to an aircraft tire full of concrete, and
still forgot and took off with the tire in tow. It sailed sort of like a
trailer... However, this would work to remove the lock if you forgot, and
did not attach it to the tie down :)
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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Aahh, but to return to those simpler days of commie plots..Where have all
the pinkeos gone.
bb
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:31 PM
no, its a communist plot by microsoft
Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
Hello out there,
I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times. anyone else having this
problem??
Roland Gilliam
>From: CloudCraft@aol.com
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
>In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific Daylight Time,
>aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
>Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit reminder
>to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
>Yes!
>
>It's not too expensive a system, either.
>
>Sit down. Before you buckle your
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they all belong to "Pro-Privatize the US ATC System" and "Pro-User Fees"
groups now!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bow
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Gust Lock
Aahh, but to return to those simpler days of commie plots..Where have
all the pinkeos gone.
bb
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:31 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
no, its a communist plot by microsoft
Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
Hello out there,
I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times. anyone else having
this
problem??
Roland Gilliam
>From: CloudCraft@aol.com
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
>In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific Daylight Time,
>aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
>Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit reminder
>to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
>Yes!
>
>It's not too expensive a system, either.
>
>Sit down. Before you buckle your
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AH! So they are running the airlines! i wondered why they were all so
averse to competition!
Robert
do not archive
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Vormbaum
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:22
they all belong to "Pro-Privatize the US ATC System" and "Pro-User Fees"
groups now!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:56 AM
Aahh, but to return to those simpler days of commie plots..Where have all
the pinkeos gone.
bb
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:31 PM
no, its a communist plot by microsoft
Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
Hello out there,
I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times. anyone else having this
problem??
Roland Gilliam
>From: CloudCraft@aol.com
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
>In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific Daylight Time,
>aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
>Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit reminder
>to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
>Yes!
>
>It's not too expensive a system, either.
>
>Sit down. Before you buckle your
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Gentlemen,
I am in the middle of an annual and would like to determine the
availability and price the following items for various components;
- For the nose gear retract servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Nose gear steering servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Hydraulic shut-off valve (LH nacelle);
O-ring x 2 - 0309-216
- Uplock activator springs;
2713103-1 x 2
- Wastegate assembly; 45044-29
- I do not yet have the part numbers for the Ray Jay turbo chargers but
would still like to know if the Inlet and Outlet hoses are available.
My aircraft also has auxiliary nose and baggage fuel transfer tanks, I
have not come across any STC information or drawings for this
installation.
Does anyone have or know where the drawings may be obtained?
Thanks in advance.
Tom F.
C-GISS
680FLP (Mr.RPM)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Vormbaum
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
they all belong to "Pro-Privatize the US ATC System" and "Pro-User
Fees" groups now!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bow
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Gust Lock
Aahh, but to return to those simpler days of commie plots..Where
have all the pinkeos gone.
bb
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:31 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
no, its a communist plot by microsoft
Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
Hello out there,
I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times. anyone else having
this
problem??
Roland Gilliam
>From: CloudCraft@aol.com
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
>In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific Daylight Time,
>aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
>Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit reminder
>to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
>Yes!
>
>It's not too expensive a system, either.
>
>Sit down. Before you buckle your
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
In a message dated 19-Jul-06 10:49:03 Pacific Daylight Time,
tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca writes:
My aircraft also has auxiliary nose and baggage fuel transfer tanks, I have
not come across any STC information or drawings for this installation.
Hi Tom,
Commander-Aero has complete O ring kits for most actuator rebuilds. I'd give
them a call. 888-881-5580
Now, as to the nose and baggage fuel tanks ... Other than ferry tanks or
field installed tanks for what we shall politely call special export/import
flights, I've never heard of such a thing.
Of course, this is why I hang around this list. I'm always amazed at the
ingenuity this group has when it comes to enhancing their Commander and some of
the mods that have ended up on them.
Rubber chickens and the like, you know ...
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
Tom call me.
321 267-3141
Harry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fisher
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:46 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Part numbers
Gentlemen,
I am in the middle of an annual and would like to determine the
availability and price the following items for various components;
- For the nose gear retract servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Nose gear steering servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Hydraulic shut-off valve (LH nacelle);
O-ring x 2 - 0309-216
- Uplock activator springs;
2713103-1 x 2
- Wastegate assembly; 45044-29
- I do not yet have the part numbers for the Ray Jay turbo chargers
but would still like to know if the Inlet and Outlet hoses are
available.
My aircraft also has auxiliary nose and baggage fuel transfer tanks, I
have not come across any STC information or drawings for this
installation.
Does anyone have or know where the drawings may be obtained?
Thanks in advance.
Tom F.
C-GISS
680FLP (Mr.RPM)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Vormbaum
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
they all belong to "Pro-Privatize the US ATC System" and "Pro-User
Fees" groups now!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bow
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Gust Lock
Aahh, but to return to those simpler days of commie plots..Where
have all the pinkeos gone.
bb
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:31 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
no, its a communist plot by microsoft
Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
Hello out there,
I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times. anyone else having
this
problem??
Roland Gilliam
>From: CloudCraft@aol.com
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
>In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific Daylight Time,
>aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
>Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit reminder
>to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
>Yes!
>
>It's not too expensive a system, either.
>
>Sit down. Before you buckle your
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" <floydgm@hotmail.com>
Tom,
Talk with Nick Freeman at Aero Air for the o-rings, phone is 800-448-2376.
They will also have the uplock springs.
The wastegates are hard to come by. If you send the unit to address below
they will rebuild them for you.
KNISLEY WELDING 1-800-522-6990
3450 SWETZER ROAD
LOOMIS CA. 95650 1-916-652-6257 (Fax)
The turbo hoses are available from:
Firetruck Aviation Arnold Blankenship 931-729-0007
Talk with Charlene and she will send you a drawing with the hose P/N's then
select the ones you need from the drawing.
Arnold also has a collection of drawings that came from MR RPM and he may
have what you need for the fuel tank drawings. He is very busy and it may
take him a while to find them though.
Mike
Commander NW
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Thanks for all the response fellows, I will follow up on them and call those
that suggested I call.
I have a question for those of you that have a 680 FL(P) with the Cleveland
brakes.
In the wheel wells, someone has removed a section of oil breather pipe and
replaced it with a flexable hose.
I assume this was done because the Cleveland brakes have what I call wear
indicators that stick out and currently partially compress the flexable
hose. I assume that it restricts the flow a bit but not completely.
The engineers working on the annual want to reroute the hoses but I feel
that this might have been part of the STC for the brakes.
Any comments?
Is this standard on the other aircraft with this setup?
Thanks again.
Tom F.
C-GISS
680FLP (Mr.RPM)
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: <avtec2@bellsouth.net>
Get the STC and it will tel you how to reroute the vent with hose
Harry
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 3:56 PM
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>
> Thanks for all the response fellows, I will follow up on them and call
> those that suggested I call.
>
> I have a question for those of you that have a 680 FL(P) with the
> Cleveland brakes.
> In the wheel wells, someone has removed a section of oil breather pipe and
> replaced it with a flexable hose.
> I assume this was done because the Cleveland brakes have what I call wear
> indicators that stick out and currently partially compress the flexable
> hose. I assume that it restricts the flow a bit but not completely.
> The engineers working on the annual want to reroute the hoses but I feel
> that this might have been part of the STC for the brakes.
>
> Any comments?
> Is this standard on the other aircraft with this setup?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Tom F.
> C-GISS
> 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
> http://wiki.matronics.com
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Tom,
I always thought the STC for Cleveland brakes included moving the breather
pipe from the through-the-wheelwell location to the bottom of the nacelle
and in the exhaust slipstream? This also eliminates the breather icing over,
which IIRC happened to Larry Wokral recently, resulting in an engine
shutdown...
/John
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 12:56 PM
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>
> Thanks for all the response fellows, I will follow up on them and call
> those that suggested I call.
>
> I have a question for those of you that have a 680 FL(P) with the
> Cleveland brakes.
> In the wheel wells, someone has removed a section of oil breather pipe and
> replaced it with a flexable hose.
> I assume this was done because the Cleveland brakes have what I call wear
> indicators that stick out and currently partially compress the flexable
> hose. I assume that it restricts the flow a bit but not completely.
> The engineers working on the annual want to reroute the hoses but I feel
> that this might have been part of the STC for the brakes.
>
> Any comments?
> Is this standard on the other aircraft with this setup?
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Tom F.
> C-GISS
> 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" <floydgm@hotmail.com>
The MR RPM conversion does away with the breather in the exhaust stream and
puts it in the cooling air outlet where the cowl flaps used to be located.
The MR RPM drawing shows the breather in the exhaust stream removed and a
cover installed.
Mike
Commander NW
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com>
Yes, me too.
--- Gary Wilson <sr14572@yahoo.com> wrote:
> no, its a communist plot by microsoft
>
> Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote: -->
> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
>
> Hello out there,
>
> I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times.
> anyone else having this
> problem??
>
> Roland Gilliam
>
>
> >From: CloudCraft@aol.com
> >To: commander-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
> >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific
> Daylight Time,
> >aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
> >Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit
> reminder
> >to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
> >Yes!
> >
> >It's not too expensive a system, either.
> >
> >Sit down. Before you buckle your seat belt, press
> on the rudder peddals.
> >
> >If they do not move, get up, exit, remove gust
> lock.
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com>
Thank you Ladies and Gents for the "RGL" reminder ideas!
Donnie Rose
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com>
Thank You for your kind words of sympathy John.
Denial is the real killer, some people won't admit
that.
--- John Vormbaum <john@vormbaum.com> wrote:
> Or, you could use MY method, which is better
> exercise and uses avgas at the same time!
>
> 1) preflight
> 2) strap in, start engine
> 3) THEN press on pedals
> 4) shut down engine
> 5) exit airplane & remove gust lock
> 6) repeat step 2.
>
> You'd think I've outgrown that by now, but I still
> do that once a year, without fail.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: CloudCraft@aol.com
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 3:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>
>
> In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific
> Daylight Time, aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
> Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit
> reminder
> to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
> Yes!
>
> It's not too expensive a system, either.
>
> Sit down. Before you buckle your seat belt, press
> on the rudder peddals.
>
> If they do not move, get up, exit, remove gust
> lock.
>
> Return to cockpit.
>
> Wing Commander Gordon
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--> Commander-List message posted by: Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com>
I'll look into that Mike.
Thank you!
--- mike floyd <floydgm@hotmail.com> wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd"
> <floydgm@hotmail.com>
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> Sporty's has a Remove Before Flight key chain. Works
> well on the control
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Bravo!
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:24 PM
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" <floydgm@hotmail.com>
>
> The MR RPM conversion does away with the breather in the exhaust stream
> and puts it in the cooling air outlet where the cowl flaps used to be
> located. The MR RPM drawing shows the breather in the exhaust stream
> removed and a cover installed.
>
> Mike
> Commander NW
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| Subject: | Re: Autopilots for the 520 |
I heartily second Mason's recommendation. Works great in my 680F(p).
Moe
N680RR
----- Original Message -----
From: MASON CHEVAILLIER
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:15 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Autopilots for the 520
recommend you contact commander aero for instalation of century 2000
system. it is great and is now stc d for 680. mason
----- Original Message -----
From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:44 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Autopilots for the 520
You may want to talk with Auto-pilot Central in Tulsa. They have a
complete list of auto-pilots for all aircraft. I had inquired about a
system for my 680. Gil
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
My understanding is that if you are certified known icing the breather must
go into the exhaust slip stream. Very effective, but the tops of your
nacelles will always be oily.
Moe
N680RR
680F(p)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:24 PM
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" <floydgm@hotmail.com>
>
> The MR RPM conversion does away with the breather in the exhaust stream
and
> puts it in the cooling air outlet where the cowl flaps used to be located.
> The MR RPM drawing shows the breather in the exhaust stream removed and a
> cover installed.
>
> Mike
> Commander NW
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Again, thanks all for the inputs, need them all.
On the subject of nacelles, has anyone laminated a (removable) thin
stainless steel shield on the top of the nacelle just behind the exhaust
outlets?
Seems like an easy task and much easier to clean.
Tom F.
C-GISS
680FLP (Mr.RPM)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:24 PM
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
>
> My understanding is that if you are certified known icing the breather
> must
> go into the exhaust slip stream. Very effective, but the tops of your
> nacelles will always be oily.
>
> Moe
> N680RR
> 680F(p)
> ----- Original Message -----
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:24 PM
>
>
>> --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" <floydgm@hotmail.com>
>>
>> The MR RPM conversion does away with the breather in the exhaust stream
> and
>> puts it in the cooling air outlet where the cowl flaps used to be
>> located.
>> The MR RPM drawing shows the breather in the exhaust stream removed and a
>> cover installed.
>>
>> Mike
>> Commander NW
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: Tylor Hall <tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net>
Tom,
Air Center has the exhaust gas deflectors as an STC.
http://www.aircenterinc.com/products_deflectors.php
for the flat nacelle Twin Commanders.
Tylor
On Jul 19, 2006, at 9:22 PM, Tom Fisher wrote:
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Tom Fisher"
> <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>
> Again, thanks all for the inputs, need them all.
> On the subject of nacelles, has anyone laminated a (removable) thin
> stainless steel shield on the top of the nacelle just behind the
> exhaust outlets?
> Seems like an easy task and much easier to clean.
>
> Tom F.
> C-GISS
> 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
>
> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 4:24 PM
>
>
>> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Moe" <moe@rosspistons.com>
>>
>> My understanding is that if you are certified known icing the
>> breather must
>> go into the exhaust slip stream. Very effective, but the tops of
>> your
>> nacelles will always be oily.
>>
>> Moe
>> N680RR
>> 680F(p)
>> ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 1:24 PM
>>
>>
>>> --> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd"
>>> <floydgm@hotmail.com>
>>>
>>> The MR RPM conversion does away with the breather in the exhaust
>>> stream
>> and
>>> puts it in the cooling air outlet where the cowl flaps used to be
>>> located.
>>> The MR RPM drawing shows the breather in the exhaust stream
>>> removed and a
>>> cover installed.
>>>
>>> Mike
>>> Commander NW
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "mike floyd" <floydgm@hotmail.com>
As part of the MR RPM conversion the engine breather was certified as being
free from ice accumulation and if the ship was certified known ice before
the conversion was done. Then it is still certified known ice.
Mike
Commander NW
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