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1. 03:49 AM - Re: Part numbers (Barry Collman)
2. 05:55 AM - Re: Part numbers (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
3. 08:12 AM - Re: Part numbers (Tom Fisher)
4. 08:38 AM - Re: Autopilots: Some news... (Bruce Campbell)
5. 10:43 AM - Re: Autopilots for the 520 ()
6. 11:06 AM - Re: Part numbers (Julian Codding)
7. 11:34 AM - Re: Autopilots: Some news... (Robert S. Randazzo)
8. 11:48 AM - Next interesting Question: Cleveland Brakes for a 520. (Bruce Campbell)
9. 11:49 AM - Re: Autopilots: Some news... (Bruce Campbell)
10. 12:35 PM - Re: Autopilots: Some news... (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
11. 10:28 PM - Re: Gust Lock (YOURTCFG@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
Hi Tom,
I don't have a copy of the Drawing, but have picked the number up from
various sources during the course of my research.
If they can locate it at Twin Commander, you may be able to get a copy
from them, at a price!
If you decide you would like a copy, although I'm sure that fuel tank
system is different to yours, then email their Librarian Gladys Cool at
gwcool@twincommander.com and I'm sure she will try and help you.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fisher
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
I would like to see that drawing, images of my system in the works
soon.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Collman
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
Hi Tom,
I was interested to read that your 680FLP, s/n 1497-15, C-GISS, has
auxiliary fuel in the baggage compartment. I understand that such a tank
was offered as an optional extra on a new airplane, but the factory
paperwork didn't reflect that it was accomplished at the factory for
your example. It was an auxiliary system comprising 67 gallons in total,
65 of which was usable. The factory drawing would have been No. 6630214,
released June 10th 1964 and was substantiated by Aero Commander Report
No. APP60-087, dated August 12th 1964.
It is, I suppose, possible such a tank was also offered under an
STC, but I haven't found any details.
I have researched the records held for s/n 1497 at the FAA Records
Center in Oklahoma City and found nothing to substantiate the
installation of your tank. However, those records obviously do not
include any paperwork originated while the aircraft was under Canadian
registry. As it has been so-registered for over 20 years, could the tank
have been installed in Canada? I don't know, but would imagine that if
it was a factory option, it would be a fairly simple process to get such
a modification effected.
The auxiliary nose tank is very interesting. I have not found any
paperwork at all relating to such a modification. If you are able to
send me some photographs, I can run this past some of my contacts, who
worked for Aero Commander's R&D guys at Norman, Oklahoma.
Incidentally, I'm hoping that records you have may tell me when a
Chamberlain 2001K-B nose radome was installed (STC SA265EA) and when
this was removed and replaced by a Chamberlain 3066X one (STC SA458EA).
I know that a 'Miller' nose was installed under SA585SW on May 29th
1974.
As if that isn't enough, can you also confirm the exact model
propellers installed (hub & blade)?
Your help will, naturally, be very much appreciated.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fisher
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:46 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Part numbers
Gentlemen,
I am in the middle of an annual and would like to determine the
availability and price the following items for various components;
- For the nose gear retract servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Nose gear steering servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Hydraulic shut-off valve (LH nacelle);
O-ring x 2 - 0309-216
- Uplock activator springs;
2713103-1 x 2
- Wastegate assembly; 45044-29
- I do not yet have the part numbers for the Ray Jay turbo
chargers but would still like to know if the Inlet and Outlet hoses are
available.
My aircraft also has auxiliary nose and baggage fuel transfer
tanks, I have not come across any STC information or drawings for this
installation.
Does anyone have or know where the drawings may be obtained?
Thanks in advance.
Tom F.
C-GISS
680FLP (Mr.RPM)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Vormbaum
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
they all belong to "Pro-Privatize the US ATC System" and
"Pro-User Fees" groups now!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bow
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Gust Lock
Aahh, but to return to those simpler days of commie
plots..Where have all the pinkeos gone.
bb
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:31 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
no, its a communist plot by microsoft
Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
Hello out there,
I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times. anyone else
having this
problem??
Roland Gilliam
>From: CloudCraft@aol.com
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
>In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific Daylight Time,
>aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
>Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit reminder
>to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
>Yes!
>
>It's not too expensive a system, either.
>
>Sit down. Before you buckle your
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| Subject: | Re: Part numbers |
tf, I am not sure. my bladder would not last 7 hrs without releif.
mason
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fisher<mailto:tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
To: commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
I'm not sure if I got this right.
First I thought your Email was a joke in reference to the seven hours
of duration, so I laughed, but then I thought you might be asking a
valid question.
So, funny if it was a joke, more detail if it was a question.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: MASON CHEVAILLIER<mailto:Kamala@msn.com>
To:
commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
tf, is there an aux pump and exit for your bladder? mason
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fisher<mailto:tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
To:
commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
The nose tank takes up the entire area exposed when the top nose
cover is removed.
I holds 22USG and is a "transfer" tank only. I have a switch and
a light on the panel, there is no gauge at all. The procedure is to
turn on the (marine) transfer pump for 35 mins. and that fuel will
transfer to the centre tank.
The baggage transfer tank is set up in the same manner. It is
located just behind the rear pressure bulkhead on the baggage floor and
holds 45USG. The transfer pump takes 55 mins. to transfer the fuel to
the centre tank.
All of this gives this aircraft an endurance of 7 hours, the log
book shows every single entry is greater than 6 hours day after day
after day.
I will take some images of the tanks and try the new ability to
Email them to this site.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Collman<mailto:barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
To:
commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
Hi Tom,
I was interested to read that your 680FLP, s/n 1497-15, C-GISS,
has auxiliary fuel in the baggage compartment. I understand that such a
tank was offered as an optional extra on a new airplane, but the factory
paperwork didn't reflect that it was accomplished at the factory for
your example. It was an auxiliary system comprising 67 gallons in total,
65 of which was usable. The factory drawing would have been No. 6630214,
released June 10th 1964 and was substantiated by Aero Commander Report
No. APP60-087, dated August 12th 1964.
It is, I suppose, possible such a tank was also offered under an
STC, but I haven't found any details.
I have researched the records held for s/n 1497 at the FAA
Records Center in Oklahoma City and found nothing to substantiate the
installation of your tank. However, those records obviously do not
include any paperwork originated while the aircraft was under Canadian
registry. As it has been so-registered for over 20 years, could the tank
have been installed in Canada? I don't know, but would imagine that if
it was a factory option, it would be a fairly simple process to get such
a modification effected.
The auxiliary nose tank is very interesting. I have not found
any paperwork at all relating to such a modification. If you are able to
send me some photographs, I can run this past some of my contacts, who
worked for Aero Commander's R&D guys at Norman, Oklahoma.
Incidentally, I'm hoping that records you have may tell me when
a Chamberlain 2001K-B nose radome was installed (STC SA265EA) and when
this was removed and replaced by a Chamberlain 3066X one (STC SA458EA).
I know that a 'Miller' nose was installed under SA585SW on May 29th
1974.
As if that isn't enough, can you also confirm the exact model
propellers installed (hub & blade)?
Your help will, naturally, be very much appreciated.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fisher<mailto:tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
To:
commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:46 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Part numbers
Gentlemen,
I am in the middle of an annual and would like to determine
the availability and price the following items for various components;
- For the nose gear retract servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Nose gear steering servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Hydraulic shut-off valve (LH nacelle);
O-ring x 2 - 0309-216
- Uplock activator springs;
2713103-1 x 2
- Wastegate assembly; 45044-29
- I do not yet have the part numbers for the Ray Jay turbo
chargers but would still like to know if the Inlet and Outlet hoses are
available.
My aircraft also has auxiliary nose and baggage fuel transfer
tanks, I have not come across any STC information or drawings for this
installation.
Does anyone have or know where the drawings may be obtained?
Thanks in advance.
Tom F.
C-GISS
680FLP (Mr.RPM)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Vormbaum<mailto:john@vormbaum.com>
To:
commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
they all belong to "Pro-Privatize the US ATC System" and
"Pro-User Fees" groups now!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bow<mailto:bowing74@earthlink.net>
To:
commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Gust Lock
Aahh, but to return to those simpler days of commie
plots..Where have all the pinkeos gone.
bb
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Behalf Of Gary Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:31 PM
To:
commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
no, its a communist plot by microsoft
Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
Hello out there,
I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times. anyone
else having this
problem??
Roland Gilliam
>From: CloudCraft@aol.com
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
>In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific Daylight
Time,
>aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
>Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit reminder
>to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
>Yes!
>
>It's not too expensive a system, either.
>
>Sit down. Before you buckle your
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What will happen at Twin Commander is I will pay for drawings that do
not match my installation, I need to try and find the STC (if any) that
his job was done under, the previous owner is of no help "the paper work
should be with the logs".
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Collman
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 3:47 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
Hi Tom,
I don't have a copy of the Drawing, but have picked the number up from
various sources during the course of my research.
If they can locate it at Twin Commander, you may be able to get a copy
from them, at a price!
If you decide you would like a copy, although I'm sure that fuel tank
system is different to yours, then email their Librarian Gladys Cool at
gwcool@twincommander.com and I'm sure she will try and help you.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fisher
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:14 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
I would like to see that drawing, images of my system in the works
soon.
Tom F.
----- Original Message -----
From: Barry Collman
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:18 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
Hi Tom,
I was interested to read that your 680FLP, s/n 1497-15, C-GISS,
has auxiliary fuel in the baggage compartment. I understand that such a
tank was offered as an optional extra on a new airplane, but the factory
paperwork didn't reflect that it was accomplished at the factory for
your example. It was an auxiliary system comprising 67 gallons in total,
65 of which was usable. The factory drawing would have been No. 6630214,
released June 10th 1964 and was substantiated by Aero Commander Report
No. APP60-087, dated August 12th 1964.
It is, I suppose, possible such a tank was also offered under an
STC, but I haven't found any details.
I have researched the records held for s/n 1497 at the FAA Records
Center in Oklahoma City and found nothing to substantiate the
installation of your tank. However, those records obviously do not
include any paperwork originated while the aircraft was under Canadian
registry. As it has been so-registered for over 20 years, could the tank
have been installed in Canada? I don't know, but would imagine that if
it was a factory option, it would be a fairly simple process to get such
a modification effected.
The auxiliary nose tank is very interesting. I have not found any
paperwork at all relating to such a modification. If you are able to
send me some photographs, I can run this past some of my contacts, who
worked for Aero Commander's R&D guys at Norman, Oklahoma.
Incidentally, I'm hoping that records you have may tell me when a
Chamberlain 2001K-B nose radome was installed (STC SA265EA) and when
this was removed and replaced by a Chamberlain 3066X one (STC SA458EA).
I know that a 'Miller' nose was installed under SA585SW on May 29th
1974.
As if that isn't enough, can you also confirm the exact model
propellers installed (hub & blade)?
Your help will, naturally, be very much appreciated.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Fisher
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:46 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Part numbers
Gentlemen,
I am in the middle of an annual and would like to determine the
availability and price the following items for various components;
- For the nose gear retract servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Nose gear steering servo;
O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
- Hydraulic shut-off valve (LH nacelle);
O-ring x 2 - 0309-216
- Uplock activator springs;
2713103-1 x 2
- Wastegate assembly; 45044-29
- I do not yet have the part numbers for the Ray Jay turbo
chargers but would still like to know if the Inlet and Outlet hoses are
available.
My aircraft also has auxiliary nose and baggage fuel transfer
tanks, I have not come across any STC information or drawings for this
installation.
Does anyone have or know where the drawings may be obtained?
Thanks in advance.
Tom F.
C-GISS
680FLP (Mr.RPM)
----- Original Message -----
From: John Vormbaum
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
they all belong to "Pro-Privatize the US ATC System" and
"Pro-User Fees" groups now!
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bow
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:56 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Gust Lock
Aahh, but to return to those simpler days of commie
plots..Where have all the pinkeos gone.
bb
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Wilson
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:31 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
no, its a communist plot by microsoft
Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
Hello out there,
I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times. anyone else
having this
problem??
Roland Gilliam
>From: CloudCraft@aol.com
>To: commander-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
>
>In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific Daylight
Time,
>aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
>Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit reminder
>to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
>Yes!
>
>It's not too expensive a system, either.
>
>Sit down. Before you buckle your
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <brcamp@windows.microsoft.com>
I'd be very interested. Is there a contact at chelton I should be
talking to?
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
S. Randazzo
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:31 PM
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Gents-
Along the vein of autopilots- this is information that might interest
some
of you.
As you know- we've been conducting a very thorough rehab on N414C a 685
commander.
When we were making the decision to conduct this rehab, we engaged a few
autopilot manufacturers about modifying their STCs to include the 685
because it is unfortunately common that they leave the 685 off their
paperwork when filing the data for their STCs.
S-TEC was our first choice- and they were extraordinarily unhelpful and
uninterested. (Weeks/Months to return phone calls, etc...)
We wound up talking to Chelton Aviation about their AP-3C since they
were
aggressively filing STCs for a broad range of aircraft. Chelton was
eager
to amend their STC and obtained a project number and provided all the
engineering data for the installation.
About a month before certification/data collection, two principles at
Chelton were killed in an accident, and as a result Chelton Aviation was
absorbed by it's sister company Wulfsberg. Wulfsberg is not as openly
interested in this STC as Chelton was- but they are supporting us
through
the STC process with a DAS. (DAS not selected yet... But we are close.)
Apparently before the accident, Chelton was eagerly looking to expand
their
STC to cover the whole range of commanders- which would have been a boon
to
all of us.
If there is sufficient interest in the AP-3C by other commander owners-
please let me know- as it will help the DAS facilities to hear that they
have a chance to recoup some costs on this STC.
If anyone has any interest in learning more- let me know.
As always- it's a learning experience when you try to put new avionics
in an
old (but good!) airplane!
Robert Randazzo
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Schuermann
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 05:29
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann
--> <cschuerm@cox.net>
Bruce Campbell wrote:
> Other than the Brittain, does anyone know an autopilot approved for
> the 520 (this includes field approval)?
Bruce,
There is a 520 around with a new S-Tec installed, but I can't remember
who
has it.
Chris
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| Subject: | Re: Autopilots for the 520 |
I have 2 Complete Britain Autopilot. one overhauled 2 years ago
Harry
321 267-3141
----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Campbell
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 1:34 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Autopilots for the 520
Other than the Brittain, does anyone know an autopilot approved for
the 520 (this includes field approval)?
Bruce Campbell
N4186B AC52
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Julian Codding" <juliancodding@msn.com>
I need to unscrible from the list.
Thanks,
Julian Codding
>From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
>To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
>Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 08:10:58 -0700
>
>What will happen at Twin Commander is I will pay for drawings that do not
>match my installation, I need to try and find the STC (if any) that his job
>was done under, the previous owner is of no help "the paper work should be
>with the logs".
>Tom F.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barry Collman
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 3:47 AM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I don't have a copy of the Drawing, but have picked the number up from
>various sources during the course of my research.
>
> If they can locate it at Twin Commander, you may be able to get a copy
>from them, at a price!
>
> If you decide you would like a copy, although I'm sure that fuel tank
>system is different to yours, then email their Librarian Gladys Cool at
>gwcool@twincommander.com and I'm sure she will try and help you.
>
> Very Best Regards,
> Barry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Fisher
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 2:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
>
>
> I would like to see that drawing, images of my system in the works
>soon.
> Tom F.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barry Collman
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:18 AM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Part numbers
>
>
> Hi Tom,
>
> I was interested to read that your 680FLP, s/n 1497-15, C-GISS, has
>auxiliary fuel in the baggage compartment. I understand that such a tank
>was offered as an optional extra on a new airplane, but the factory
>paperwork didn't reflect that it was accomplished at the factory for your
>example. It was an auxiliary system comprising 67 gallons in total, 65 of
>which was usable. The factory drawing would have been No. 6630214, released
>June 10th 1964 and was substantiated by Aero Commander Report No.
>APP60-087, dated August 12th 1964.
>
> It is, I suppose, possible such a tank was also offered under an
>STC, but I haven't found any details.
>
> I have researched the records held for s/n 1497 at the FAA Records
>Center in Oklahoma City and found nothing to substantiate the installation
>of your tank. However, those records obviously do not include any paperwork
>originated while the aircraft was under Canadian registry. As it has been
>so-registered for over 20 years, could the tank have been installed in
>Canada? I don't know, but would imagine that if it was a factory option, it
>would be a fairly simple process to get such a modification effected.
>
> The auxiliary nose tank is very interesting. I have not found any
>paperwork at all relating to such a modification. If you are able to send
>me some photographs, I can run this past some of my contacts, who worked
>for Aero Commander's R&D guys at Norman, Oklahoma.
>
> Incidentally, I'm hoping that records you have may tell me when a
>Chamberlain 2001K-B nose radome was installed (STC SA265EA) and when this
>was removed and replaced by a Chamberlain 3066X one (STC SA458EA). I know
>that a 'Miller' nose was installed under SA585SW on May 29th 1974.
>
> As if that isn't enough, can you also confirm the exact model
>propellers installed (hub & blade)?
>
> Your help will, naturally, be very much appreciated.
>
> Very Best Regards,
> Barry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tom Fisher
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 6:46 PM
> Subject: Commander-List: Part numbers
>
>
> Gentlemen,
>
> I am in the middle of an annual and would like to determine the
>availability and price the following items for various components;
>
> - For the nose gear retract servo;
> O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
> O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
> O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
>
> - Nose gear steering servo;
> O-ring x 1 - 0309-026
> O-ring x 2 - 0309-114
> O-ring x 1 - 0309-216
>
> - Hydraulic shut-off valve (LH nacelle);
> O-ring x 2 - 0309-216
>
> - Uplock activator springs;
> 2713103-1 x 2
>
> - Wastegate assembly; 45044-29
>
> - I do not yet have the part numbers for the Ray Jay turbo
>chargers but would still like to know if the Inlet and Outlet hoses are
>available.
>
> My aircraft also has auxiliary nose and baggage fuel transfer
>tanks, I have not come across any STC information or drawings for this
>installation.
> Does anyone have or know where the drawings may be obtained?
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Tom F.
> C-GISS
> 680FLP (Mr.RPM)
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Vormbaum
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>
>
> they all belong to "Pro-Privatize the US ATC System" and
>"Pro-User Fees" groups now!
>
> do not archive
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Bill Bow
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 9:56 AM
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>
>
> Aahh, but to return to those simpler days of commie
>plots..Where have all the pinkeos gone.
>
>
> bb
>
>
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>
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
>[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Wilson
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:31 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
>
>
> no, its a communist plot by microsoft
>
> Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Nancy Gilliam"
>
> Hello out there,
>
> I'm getting all commander list's posts 2 times. anyone else
>having this
> problem??
>
> Roland Gilliam
>
>
> >From: CloudCraft@aol.com
> >To: commander-list@matronics.com
> >Subject: Re: Commander-List: Gust Lock
> >Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 18:31:55 -0400 (EDT)
> >
> >In a message dated 18-Jul-06 15:30:09 Pacific Daylight Time,
> >aquadiver99@yahoo.com writes:
> >Anyone out there have any ideas for a cockpit reminder
> >to remove the rudder gust lock? [500B]
> >Yes!
> >
> >It's not too expensive a system, either.
> >
> >Sit down. Before you buckle your
>
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Bruce-
Nobody at Chelton, currently... Let me talk to the DAS rep that we are
currently working with and see if he'd like ot hear from you. (I'm hoping
that they see the value in issueing an STC covering the entire range of
commanders- thus giving all of us a new option for avionics...)
What type Commander do you have?
Robert
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
Campbell
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 08:38
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell"
--> <brcamp@windows.microsoft.com>
I'd be very interested. Is there a contact at chelton I should be talking
to?
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
Randazzo
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:31 PM
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Gents-
Along the vein of autopilots- this is information that might interest some
of you.
As you know- we've been conducting a very thorough rehab on N414C a 685
commander.
When we were making the decision to conduct this rehab, we engaged a few
autopilot manufacturers about modifying their STCs to include the 685
because it is unfortunately common that they leave the 685 off their
paperwork when filing the data for their STCs.
S-TEC was our first choice- and they were extraordinarily unhelpful and
uninterested. (Weeks/Months to return phone calls, etc...)
We wound up talking to Chelton Aviation about their AP-3C since they were
aggressively filing STCs for a broad range of aircraft. Chelton was eager
to amend their STC and obtained a project number and provided all the
engineering data for the installation.
About a month before certification/data collection, two principles at
Chelton were killed in an accident, and as a result Chelton Aviation was
absorbed by it's sister company Wulfsberg. Wulfsberg is not as openly
interested in this STC as Chelton was- but they are supporting us through
the STC process with a DAS. (DAS not selected yet... But we are close.)
Apparently before the accident, Chelton was eagerly looking to expand their
STC to cover the whole range of commanders- which would have been a boon to
all of us.
If there is sufficient interest in the AP-3C by other commander owners-
please let me know- as it will help the DAS facilities to hear that they
have a chance to recoup some costs on this STC.
If anyone has any interest in learning more- let me know.
As always- it's a learning experience when you try to put new avionics in an
old (but good!) airplane!
Robert Randazzo
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Schuermann
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 05:29
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann
--> <cschuerm@cox.net>
Bruce Campbell wrote:
> Other than the Brittain, does anyone know an autopilot approved for
> the 520 (this includes field approval)?
Bruce,
There is a 520 around with a new S-Tec installed, but I can't remember who
has it.
Chris
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Has anyone gotten approval for Clevelands on a 520?
BTW, Thanx to everyone on the autopilot thing. I thnk I have a good
handle on the options at this point. One piece of inco I can pass on to
other 520 oweners, the Icaraus Instruments SAM GPSS roll steering
adapter will be certified for the 520 and (may) add GPS command guidance
to the Brittain B2D, which might make it a viable option if the AP-3C
falls through.
Bruce Campbell
AC52 N4186B
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--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell" <brcamp@windows.microsoft.com>
520, s/n 93.
Bruce Campbell
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
S. Randazzo
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 11:34 AM
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Bruce-
Nobody at Chelton, currently... Let me talk to the DAS rep that we are
currently working with and see if he'd like ot hear from you. (I'm
hoping
that they see the value in issueing an STC covering the entire range of
commanders- thus giving all of us a new option for avionics...)
What type Commander do you have?
Robert
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bruce
Campbell
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 08:38
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Bruce Campbell"
--> <brcamp@windows.microsoft.com>
I'd be very interested. Is there a contact at chelton I should be
talking
to?
Bruce
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
S.
Randazzo
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 8:31 PM
--> Commander-List message posted by: "Robert S. Randazzo"
<rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
Gents-
Along the vein of autopilots- this is information that might interest
some
of you.
As you know- we've been conducting a very thorough rehab on N414C a 685
commander.
When we were making the decision to conduct this rehab, we engaged a few
autopilot manufacturers about modifying their STCs to include the 685
because it is unfortunately common that they leave the 685 off their
paperwork when filing the data for their STCs.
S-TEC was our first choice- and they were extraordinarily unhelpful and
uninterested. (Weeks/Months to return phone calls, etc...)
We wound up talking to Chelton Aviation about their AP-3C since they
were
aggressively filing STCs for a broad range of aircraft. Chelton was
eager
to amend their STC and obtained a project number and provided all the
engineering data for the installation.
About a month before certification/data collection, two principles at
Chelton were killed in an accident, and as a result Chelton Aviation was
absorbed by it's sister company Wulfsberg. Wulfsberg is not as openly
interested in this STC as Chelton was- but they are supporting us
through
the STC process with a DAS. (DAS not selected yet... But we are close.)
Apparently before the accident, Chelton was eagerly looking to expand
their
STC to cover the whole range of commanders- which would have been a boon
to
all of us.
If there is sufficient interest in the AP-3C by other commander owners-
please let me know- as it will help the DAS facilities to hear that they
have a chance to recoup some costs on this STC.
If anyone has any interest in learning more- let me know.
As always- it's a learning experience when you try to put new avionics
in an
old (but good!) airplane!
Robert Randazzo
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Schuermann
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 05:29
--> Commander-List message posted by: Chris Schuermann
--> <cschuerm@cox.net>
Bruce Campbell wrote:
> Other than the Brittain, does anyone know an autopilot approved for
> the 520 (this includes field approval)?
Bruce,
There is a 520 around with a new S-Tec installed, but I can't remember
who
has it.
Chris
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I fly a 680 and would be interested in an approved auto-pilot ( up dated
version) Gil
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I tied a big rubber chicken to mine, really. I works great and has enough
wind resistance to remove it on the take off roll should you forget (or so I'm
told. I would not know for certain:-)' jb
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