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     1. 02:31 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Barry Collman)
     2. 05:25 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (N395V)
     3. 06:01 AM - History of 500A wing spar problems. (Jim Hasler)
     4. 06:04 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Moe - Ross Racing Pistons)
     5. 07:16 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (cloudcraft@aol.com)
     6. 07:26 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (BertBerry1@aol.com)
     7. 07:56 AM - Re: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Barry Collman)
     8. 08:02 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Barry Collman)
     9. 08:03 AM - Re: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Bill Bow)
    10. 08:05 AM - Re: History of 500A wing spar problems. (David Owens)
    11. 08:09 AM - Re: History of 500A wing spar problems. (David Owens)
    12. 08:09 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Barry Collman)
    13. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Barry Collman)
    14. 08:21 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Tom Fisher)
    15. 08:23 AM - Re: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (nico css)
    16. 08:48 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Barry Collman)
    17. 08:59 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (nico css)
    18. 12:12 PM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Moe - Ross Racing Pistons)
    19. 12:16 PM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Moe - Ross Racing Pistons)
    20. 02:00 PM - Re: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Bill Bow)
    21. 02:00 PM - Re: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Bill Bow)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      Hi All,
      
      If I'm able to attend this year's event, I'd like to ask whether anyone 
      is going home on the Sunday (September 24th) via, or within driving 
      distance of, Oklahoma City.
      
      If so, are they willing to drop me off there as talking freight?
      
      I will, of course, be more than willing to make a contribution towards 
      the fuel costs.
      
      I would like to know whether this is a viable option, as I can then book 
      all my flights accordingly.
      
      My getting there seems to be contingent on being allowed to take my 
      camera equipment on board the flights as hand luggage, following the 
      events of last week.
      
      Somehow, I don't think being forced to having them flown in the baggage 
      hold is sensible, as they will then run the risk of going missing, being 
      pilfered, or damaged.
      
      Very Best Regards,
      Barry
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
      
      
      > then run the risk of going missing, being pilfered, or damaged. 
      > 
      > 
      
      
      ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
      
      I feel your pain.
      
      My Daughter is getting married in London next month and trying to get there with
      everything important intact is seeming impossible at this point.
      
      --------
      Milt
      N395V
      F1 Rocket
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55484#55484
      
      
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| Subject:  | History of 500A wing spar problems. | 
      
      
      I was wondering if anyone could help me with current or historic 
      information
      on the Aero commander 500A in reference to problems with the wing spar. 
      
      I have N 800AC which I have been working to get airworthy for the last 
      few
      years and was down to one last problem. I had a fuel leak which you 
      could
      smell in the aft cabin. When they pulled the center fuel bladder out to
      repair or replace they found the wing spar in my plane to be 50%
      deteriorated.
      
      
      Are there any ADs or service advisories which would have covered this
      problem in the past? 
      
      Where can I get replacement parts?
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      Jim
      
      
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| Subject:  | 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      Hi Barry,
      
      
      I should be leaving Dayton fairly early Sunday morning, and would be
      delighted to drop you off in Oakie City.  This would be a good fuel stop for
      me, as I go back to Los Angeles.
      
      
      For many years I have had a "thing" about carry on luggage, and seldom take
      anything on the plane with me. Often I travel with a lot of hardware that
      couldn't go into the cabin in "the old days".  If everything is well packed
      it travels quite well.  I use the same basic technique that we use here at
      the piston factory.well packed but it should be quick and simple to unpack
      and repack by the airport inspectors.  Foam can be easily cut with an
      electric knife to make excellent computer, cell phone, and camera packing
      structures.  
      
      
      Regards,
      
      
      Moe
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
      Collman
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:31 AM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      Hi All,
      
      
      If I'm able to attend this year's event, I'd like to ask whether anyone is
      going home on the Sunday (September 24th) via, or within driving distance
      of, Oklahoma City.
      
      
      If so, are they willing to drop me off there as talking freight?
      
      
      I will, of course, be more than willing to make a contribution towards the
      fuel costs.
      
      
      I would like to know whether this is a viable option, as I can then book all
      my flights accordingly.
      
      
      My getting there seems to be contingent on being allowed to take my camera
      equipment on board the flights as hand luggage, following the events of last
      week.
      
      
      Somehow, I don't think being forced to having them flown in the baggage hold
      is sensible, as they will then run the risk of going missing, being
      pilfered, or damaged.
      
      
      Very Best Regards,
      
      Barry
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
        Sir Barry,
       Do you have specialized camera equipment, or, can your photography needs be met
      by borrowing, say, a digital camera from someone here in the Colonies?
      
       If so, then all you have to do is worry about liquids and gels, right?
      
       Wing Commander Gordon
           
      -----Original Message-----
      From: barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk
      Sent: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 2:31 AM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
         My getting there seems to be contingent on being allowed to take my camera equipment
      on board the flights as hand luggage, following the events of last week.
       Somehow, I don't think being forced to having them flown in the baggage
      hold is sensible, as they will then run the risk of going missing, being pilfered,
      or damaged.   Very Best Regards, Barry   
      ________________________________________________________________________
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      Barry,
      
      Just a suggestion, I have sent my camera equipment FEDEX several times with 
      no problems at all.
      
      Bert
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
      
      Hi Milt,
      
      I know, what a right pain travelling is becoming nowadays, but that is the 
      object of "their" exercise I suppose.
      
      Hope all goes well!
      
      Very Best Regards,
      Barry
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 1:25 PM
      Subject: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      | --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
      |
      |
      | > then run the risk of going missing, being pilfered, or damaged.
      | >
      | >
      |
      |
      |
      | ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
      |
      | I feel your pain.
      |
      | My Daughter is getting married in London next month and trying to get there 
      with everything important intact is seeming impossible at this point.
      |
      | --------
      | Milt
      | N395V
      | F1 Rocket
      |
      |
      |
      |
      | Read this topic online here:
      |
      | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55484#55484
      |
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      Hi Moe,
      
      If you are absolutely certain that you are not going out of your way to 
      drop me off, that will be simply great!
      
      There's quite a good restaurant at Wiley Post (KPWA), so I can treat you 
      (both?) to a spot of late breakfast or lunch! It's literally a few yards 
      walk from the FBO there.
      
      Let me know how much you need as the fuel contribution, and I'll make 
      sure I bring enough pieces of the spendable paper!
      
      Sincere Best Regards,
      Barry
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Moe - Ross Racing Pistons 
        To: commander-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:05 PM
        Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
        Hi Barry,
      
         
      
        I should be leaving Dayton fairly early Sunday morning, and would be 
      delighted to drop you off in Oakie City.  This would be a good fuel stop 
      for me, as I go back to Los Angeles.
      
         
      
        For many years I have had a "thing" about carry on luggage, and seldom 
      take anything on the plane with me. Often I travel with a lot of 
      hardware that couldn't go into the cabin in "the old days".  If 
      everything is well packed it travels quite well.  I use the same basic 
      technique that we use here at the piston factory.well packed but it 
      should be quick and simple to unpack and repack by the airport 
      inspectors.  Foam can be easily cut with an electric knife to make 
      excellent computer, cell phone, and camera packing structures.  
      
         
      
        Regards,
      
         
      
        Moe
      
         
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      
        From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry 
      Collman
        Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:31 AM
        To: commander-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
         
      
        Hi All,
      
         
      
        If I'm able to attend this year's event, I'd like to ask whether 
      anyone is going home on the Sunday (September 24th) via, or within 
      driving distance of, Oklahoma City.
      
         
      
        If so, are they willing to drop me off there as talking freight?
      
         
      
        I will, of course, be more than willing to make a contribution towards 
      the fuel costs.
      
         
      
        I would like to know whether this is a viable option, as I can then 
      book all my flights accordingly.
      
         
      
        My getting there seems to be contingent on being allowed to take my 
      camera equipment on board the flights as hand luggage, following the 
      events of last week.
      
         
      
        Somehow, I don't think being forced to having them flown in the 
      baggage hold is sensible, as they will then run the risk of going 
      missing, being pilfered, or damaged.
      
         
      
        Very Best Regards,
      
        Barry
      
         
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      
      Milt!
      
      She's not marring "ONE OF THEM", is she?
      
      Bilbo :>))))
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:25 AM
      Subject: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
      
      
      > then run the risk of going missing, being pilfered, or damaged. 
      > 
      > 
      
      
      ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
      
      I feel your pain.
      
      My Daughter is getting married in London next month and trying to get there
      with everything important intact is seeming impossible at this point.
      
      --------
      Milt
      N395V
      F1 Rocket
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55484#55484
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: History of 500A wing spar problems. | 
      
      Go to   http://www.commander-aero.com/sparinspections.htm    AND...   
      good luck.
      
      
      David Owens
      Aerial Viewpoint
      N14AV
      AC-500A-Colemill
      
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| Subject:  | Re: History of 500A wing spar problems. | 
      
      Spar inspection & spar replacement
      Gary Kromer 888.881.5580 / 937.684.2894 (m)
      
      
      David Owens
      Aerial Viewpoint
      N14AV
      AC-500A-Colemill
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      Hi Bert,
      
      That's an idea. I'll pursue it if the airlines aren't going to play 
      ball.
      
      Very Best Regards,
      Barry
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: BertBerry1@aol.com 
        To: commander-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:26 PM
        Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
        Barry,
      
        Just a suggestion, I have sent my camera equipment FEDEX several times 
      with no problems at all.
      
        Bert
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
      
      Hi Bill,
      
      I don't think an American will mar an Englishmen.
      
      Mind you, marrying one is a different kettle of fish!
      
      Sincere Best Regards,
      Barry
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:03 PM
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      | 
      | Milt!
      | 
      | She's not marring "ONE OF THEM", is she?
      | 
      | Bilbo :>))))
      | 
      | -----Original Message-----
      | From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      | [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V
      | Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:25 AM
      | To: commander-list@matronics.com
      | Subject: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      | 
      | --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
      | 
      | 
      | > then run the risk of going missing, being pilfered, or damaged. 
      | > 
      | > 
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
      | 
      | I feel your pain.
      | 
      | My Daughter is getting married in London next month and trying to get there
      | with everything important intact is seeming impossible at this point.
      | 
      | --------
      | Milt
      | N395V
      | F1 Rocket
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | Read this topic online here:
      | 
      | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55484#55484
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      That takes care of the damage aspect but it will no doubt attract more 
      thieves.  When I worked overseas I lost many items going back and forth. 
       Unless I fly myself....I don't go.
      
      Tom F.
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Moe - Ross Racing Pistons 
        To: commander-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:05 AM
        Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
        Hi Barry,
      
         
      
        I should be leaving Dayton fairly early Sunday morning, and would be 
      delighted to drop you off in Oakie City.  This would be a good fuel stop 
      for me, as I go back to Los Angeles.
      
         
      
        For many years I have had a "thing" about carry on luggage, and seldom 
      take anything on the plane with me. Often I travel with a lot of 
      hardware that couldn't go into the cabin in "the old days".  If 
      everything is well packed it travels quite well.  I use the same basic 
      technique that we use here at the piston factory.well packed but it 
      should be quick and simple to unpack and repack by the airport 
      inspectors.  Foam can be easily cut with an electric knife to make 
      excellent computer, cell phone, and camera packing structures.  
      
         
      
        Regards,
      
         
      
        Moe
      
         
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      
        From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry 
      Collman
        Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:31 AM
        To: commander-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
         
      
        Hi All,
      
         
      
        If I'm able to attend this year's event, I'd like to ask whether 
      anyone is going home on the Sunday (September 24th) via, or within 
      driving distance of, Oklahoma City.
      
         
      
        If so, are they willing to drop me off there as talking freight?
      
         
      
        I will, of course, be more than willing to make a contribution towards 
      the fuel costs.
      
         
      
        I would like to know whether this is a viable option, as I can then 
      book all my flights accordingly.
      
         
      
        My getting there seems to be contingent on being allowed to take my 
      camera equipment on board the flights as hand luggage, following the 
      events of last week.
      
         
      
        Somehow, I don't think being forced to having them flown in the 
      baggage hold is sensible, as they will then run the risk of going 
      missing, being pilfered, or damaged.
      
         
      
        Very Best Regards,
      
        Barry
      
         
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
      
      I was wondering who would pick up on that.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
      Collman
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:13 AM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
      <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
      
      Hi Bill,
      
      I don't think an American will mar an Englishmen.
      
      Mind you, marrying one is a different kettle of fish!
      
      Sincere Best Regards,
      Barry
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:03 PM
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      | 
      | Milt!
      | 
      | She's not marring "ONE OF THEM", is she?
      | 
      | Bilbo :>))))
      | 
      | -----Original Message-----
      | From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      | [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V
      | Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:25 AM
      | To: commander-list@matronics.com
      | Subject: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      | 
      | --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
      | 
      | 
      | > then run the risk of going missing, being pilfered, or damaged. 
      | > 
      | > 
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
      | 
      | I feel your pain.
      | 
      | My Daughter is getting married in London next month and trying to get
      there
      | with everything important intact is seeming impossible at this point.
      | 
      | --------
      | Milt
      | N395V
      | F1 Rocket
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | Read this topic online here:
      | 
      | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55484#55484
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      Hi Keith,
      
      Well, there are two camera bodies (1 x film, 1x digital), 4 lenses (2 
      for each camera) and a digital camcorder. Plus, of course, all the 
      needed accessories. I hope to pack into this bag as well a 'Navman' GPS 
      for the cars I'll be renting plus an Archos AV700 (stores videos, photos 
      & music).
      
      After the Fly-In, I'll be spending a week or so in Oklahoma City. Anyone 
      want me to pass on their Best Regards to the folks at the FAA? No, OK so 
      that's one thing less to worry about then!
      
      So, it's that lot plus the liquids & gels then!!!
      
      Sincere Best Regards,
      Barry
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: cloudcraft@aol.com 
        To: commander-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 3:16 PM
        Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
         Sir Barry,
        Do you have specialized camera equipment, or, can your photography 
      needs be met by borrowing, say, a digital camera from someone here in 
      the Colonies?
      
        If so, then all you have to do is worry about liquids and gels, right?
      
        Wing Commander Gordon
      
      
         
        -----Original Message-----
        From: barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk
        To: commander-list@matronics.com
        Sent: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 2:31 AM
        Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
        My getting there seems to be contingent on being allowed to take my 
      camera equipment on board the flights as hand luggage, following the 
      events of last week.
      
        Somehow, I don't think being forced to having them flown in the 
      baggage hold is sensible, as they will then run the risk of going 
      missing, being pilfered, or damaged.
      
        Very Best Regards,
        Barry
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      
      
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| Subject:  | 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      JB,
      
      
      Could you send me a package? 
      
      
      Nico van Niekerk, PO BOX 4221, Thousand Oaks, CA 91359
      
      
      Thanks
      
      Nico
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      YOURTCFG@aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2006 10:25 AM
      Subject: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      Hi Gang, 
      
      
      The TCFG Flyin and Convention is about 6 weeks away and I hope all of you
      are planning on attending.  The event will be held at Commander Aero's
      facilities on the Wright Brothers Airport in Miamisburg, Ohio (near Dayton).
      Plan to come early and tour the historic aviation sites of Dayton.  
      
      
      Our Hosts, Commander Aero have put together a great program for us including
      a visit to the Air Force Museum, a fly out to Eagle creek Airport and visit
      to Indianapolis Motor Speedway Museum, plus a line-up of speakers.  The cost
      is only $150 and includes admission to all of the seminars (museum admission
      costs will be extra), dinner on three nights, continental breakfast on three
      mornings and lunch. 
      
      
      Registration packets are on the way to current TCFG members.  If you are not
      a current member, let us know and we would be happy to send you the
      information.  
      
      
      Hotel Reservations:  A Block of rooms has been reserved at the Hampton Inn &
      Suites for this event at the following rates:   
      
      
                  Standard Room                        $79.00
      
                  Suite                                         $94.00
      
      
      Phone Number:            (937)743-2121
      
      
      When making reservations let them know that you are with the Twin Commander
      Flight Group (TCFG).  In order to receive this rate rooms must be booked no
      later than September 1st.  After that the rooms will be released for general
      booking at regular rates. 
      
      
      Rental Cars:  Both Enterprise and Hertz service Wright Brothers Airport.
      Enterprise can deliver a car to the airport and Commander Aero can complete
      the paperwork, thereby avoiding any delays in picking up and returning your
      car.  If booking through Enterprise please let them know your estimated time
      of arrival and that you would like the paperwork left with Commander Aero. 
      
      
                  Enterprise                                 937-291-6370
      
                  Hertz                                        937-438-0175
      
      
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| Subject:  | 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      Tom,
      
      
      The trick is to carry worthless stuff..
      
      
      Moe
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Fisher
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:21 AM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      That takes care of the damage aspect but it will no doubt attract more
      thieves.  When I worked overseas I lost many items going back and forth.
      Unless I fly myself....I don't go.
      
      
      Tom F.
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: Moe - Ross Racing <mailto:moe@rosspistons.com>  Pistons 
      
      
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 6:05 AM
      
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      Hi Barry,
      
      
      I should be leaving Dayton fairly early Sunday morning, and would be
      delighted to drop you off in Oakie City.  This would be a good fuel stop for
      me, as I go back to Los Angeles.
      
      
      For many years I have had a "thing" about carry on luggage, and seldom take
      anything on the plane with me. Often I travel with a lot of hardware that
      couldn't go into the cabin in "the old days".  If everything is well packed
      it travels quite well.  I use the same basic technique that we use here at
      the piston factory.well packed but it should be quick and simple to unpack
      and repack by the airport inspectors.  Foam can be easily cut with an
      electric knife to make excellent computer, cell phone, and camera packing
      structures.  
      
      
      Regards,
      
      
      Moe
      
      
        _____  
      
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
      Collman
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:31 AM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      Hi All,
      
      
      If I'm able to attend this year's event, I'd like to ask whether anyone is
      going home on the Sunday (September 24th) via, or within driving distance
      of, Oklahoma City.
      
      
      If so, are they willing to drop me off there as talking freight?
      
      
      I will, of course, be more than willing to make a contribution towards the
      fuel costs.
      
      
      I would like to know whether this is a viable option, as I can then book all
      my flights accordingly.
      
      
      My getting there seems to be contingent on being allowed to take my camera
      equipment on board the flights as hand luggage, following the events of last
      week.
      
      
      Somehow, I don't think being forced to having them flown in the baggage hold
      is sensible, as they will then run the risk of going missing, being
      pilfered, or damaged.
      
      
      Very Best Regards,
      
      Barry
      
      
      ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
      
      
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| Subject:  | 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      Barry,
      
      
      I would not even consider letting you buy gas, and besides you bought lunch
      the last time in Jolly Old England.
      
      
      Regards,
      
      
      Moe
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
      Collman
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:02 AM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      Hi Moe,
      
      
      If you are absolutely certain that you are not going out of your way to drop
      me off, that will be simply great!
      
      
      There's quite a good restaurant at Wiley Post (KPWA), so I can treat you
      (both?) to a spot of late breakfast or lunch! It's literally a few yards
      walk from the FBO there.
      
      
      Let me know how much you need as the fuel contribution, and I'll make sure I
      bring enough pieces of the spendable paper!
      
      
      Sincere Best Regards,
      
      Barry
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: Moe - Ross Racing <mailto:moe@rosspistons.com>  Pistons 
      
      
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:05 PM
      
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      Hi Barry,
      
      
      I should be leaving Dayton fairly early Sunday morning, and would be
      delighted to drop you off in Oakie City.  This would be a good fuel stop for
      me, as I go back to Los Angeles.
      
      
      For many years I have had a "thing" about carry on luggage, and seldom take
      anything on the plane with me. Often I travel with a lot of hardware that
      couldn't go into the cabin in "the old days".  If everything is well packed
      it travels quite well.  I use the same basic technique that we use here at
      the piston factory.well packed but it should be quick and simple to unpack
      and repack by the airport inspectors.  Foam can be easily cut with an
      electric knife to make excellent computer, cell phone, and camera packing
      structures.  
      
      
      Regards,
      
      
      Moe
      
      
        _____  
      
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
      Collman
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:31 AM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      Hi All,
      
      
      If I'm able to attend this year's event, I'd like to ask whether anyone is
      going home on the Sunday (September 24th) via, or within driving distance
      of, Oklahoma City.
      
      
      If so, are they willing to drop me off there as talking freight?
      
      
      I will, of course, be more than willing to make a contribution towards the
      fuel costs.
      
      
      I would like to know whether this is a viable option, as I can then book all
      my flights accordingly.
      
      
      My getting there seems to be contingent on being allowed to take my camera
      equipment on board the flights as hand luggage, following the events of last
      week.
      
      
      Somehow, I don't think being forced to having them flown in the baggage hold
      is sensible, as they will then run the risk of going missing, being
      pilfered, or damaged.
      
      
      Very Best Regards,
      
      Barry
      
      
      ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      
      Delighted not to disappoint!
      
      bilbo
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:23 AM
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
      
      I was wondering who would pick up on that.
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
      Collman
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:13 AM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
      <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
      
      Hi Bill,
      
      I don't think an American will mar an Englishmen.
      
      Mind you, marrying one is a different kettle of fish!
      
      Sincere Best Regards,
      Barry
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:03 PM
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      | 
      | Milt!
      | 
      | She's not marring "ONE OF THEM", is she?
      | 
      | Bilbo :>))))
      | 
      | -----Original Message-----
      | From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      | [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V
      | Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:25 AM
      | To: commander-list@matronics.com
      | Subject: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      | 
      | --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
      | 
      | 
      | > then run the risk of going missing, being pilfered, or damaged. 
      | > 
      | > 
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
      | 
      | I feel your pain.
      | 
      | My Daughter is getting married in London next month and trying to get
      there
      | with everything important intact is seeming impossible at this point.
      | 
      | --------
      | Milt
      | N395V
      | F1 Rocket
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | Read this topic online here:
      | 
      | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55484#55484
      | 
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| Subject:  | Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention | 
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      
      Hey Milt,
      
      Is he calling your daughter a kettle?
      
      Bilbo:>)))
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
      Collman
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 11:13 AM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      --> Commander-List message posted by: "Barry Collman"
      <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
      
      Hi Bill,
      
      I don't think an American will mar an Englishmen.
      
      Mind you, marrying one is a different kettle of fish!
      
      Sincere Best Regards,
      Barry
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 4:03 PM
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      
      
      | --> Commander-List message posted by: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      | 
      | Milt!
      | 
      | She's not marring "ONE OF THEM", is she?
      | 
      | Bilbo :>))))
      | 
      | -----Original Message-----
      | From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      | [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V
      | Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:25 AM
      | To: commander-list@matronics.com
      | Subject: Commander-List: Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention
      | 
      | --> Commander-List message posted by: "N395V" <n395v@hughes.net>
      | 
      | 
      | > then run the risk of going missing, being pilfered, or damaged. 
      | > 
      | > 
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | ARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!
      | 
      | I feel your pain.
      | 
      | My Daughter is getting married in London next month and trying to get
      there
      | with everything important intact is seeming impossible at this point.
      | 
      | --------
      | Milt
      | N395V
      | F1 Rocket
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | 
      | Read this topic online here:
      | 
      | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=55484#55484
      | 
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