---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/26/06: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:18 AM - Re: 2006 Fly-In and Convention (Barry Collman) 2. 06:13 AM - Re: Goodyear brakes (Bill Bow) 3. 11:06 AM - Paint schemes (Dave Phifer) 4. 12:16 PM - Re: Paint schemes (JBOBSTER@aol.com) 5. 02:46 PM - Paint schemes (css nico) 6. 03:16 PM - Re: Paint schemes (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 7. 04:22 PM - Re: Paint schemes (AEROCOMAND@aol.com) 8. 05:29 PM - Re: Paint schemes (Steven) 9. 06:14 PM - Re: Paint schemes (Dave Phifer) 10. 06:26 PM - Re: Paint schemes (css nico) 11. 07:53 PM - Looking for parts for a AC 680 FLP (Ray Mansfield) 12. 08:43 PM - Looking for parts for a AC 680 FLP (Ray Mansfield) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:18:36 AM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention Hi Moe, Sounds good! Yes, I've reserved a room at the Hampton Inns. Looking forward to seeing you again, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Moe - Ross Racing Pistons To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:41 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention Hi Barry, This sounds just great. I will be happy to ride around with you and save on the rental car! We are not quite sure of Linn's plans just yet. She has to be in Minnesota for business at about this time. She may drive down, or possibly will not show. For the time being, we are not pre-registering her. Presumably you will be staying at the Hampton Inn, as per the email of August 10th? Currently, plans are for me to arrive Thursday, September 21, around noon, although this may change. Let's stop bickering about the fuel. Best regards, Moe ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 5:51 AM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention Hi Moe, I've just booked my flights and the hotel in Dayton, plus I've reserved a car from Enterprise. I am arriving in Dayton a day or two early, as I am going to meet Greg Wartinger to have a look through some of the 'stuff' that Dick collected over the years. So, I thought that I can drive you around and you won't need to rent a car. If Lynn needs a car, I'm sure Enterprise will be able to add her, or your name, as a driver. I'm hoping to bring my Navman 'in-car' portable GPS system with me (provided I can load the map software OK!), so we shouldn't get lost!! If you think that'll work OK, let me know. And, I think it's only fair that I make some kind of contribution towards the fuel. I haven't checked a map of the US, but my feeling is that by dropping me off in Oklahoma City, you are taking yourself away from the route you would have normally taken. That makes me feel rather guilty and I will not be able to sleep at nights. Lunch is one thing, gallons & gallons of fuel is another!! Sincere Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Moe - Ross Racing Pistons To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:16 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention Barry, I would not even consider letting you buy gas, and besides you bought lunch the last time in Jolly Old England. Regards, Moe ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 8:02 AM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention Hi Moe, If you are absolutely certain that you are not going out of your way to drop me off, that will be simply great! There's quite a good restaurant at Wiley Post (KPWA), so I can treat you (both?) to a spot of late breakfast or lunch! It's literally a few yards walk from the FBO there. Let me know how much you need as the fuel contribution, and I'll make sure I bring enough pieces of the spendable paper! Sincere Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Moe - Ross Racing Pistons To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:05 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention Hi Barry, I should be leaving Dayton fairly early Sunday morning, and would be delighted to drop you off in Oakie City. This would be a good fuel stop for me, as I go back to Los Angeles. For many years I have had a "thing" about carry on luggage, and seldom take anything on the plane with me. Often I travel with a lot of hardware that couldn't go into the cabin in "the old days". If everything is well packed it travels quite well. I use the same basic technique that we use here at the piston factory.well packed but it should be quick and simple to unpack and repack by the airport inspectors. Foam can be easily cut with an electric knife to make excellent computer, cell phone, and camera packing structures. Regards, Moe ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Friday, August 18, 2006 2:31 AM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2006 Fly-In and Convention Hi All, If I'm able to attend this year's event, I'd like to ask whether anyone is going home on the Sunday (September 24th) via, or within driving distance of, Oklahoma City. If so, are they willing to drop me off there as talking freight? I will, of course, be more than willing to make a contribution towards the fuel costs. I would like to know whether this is a viable option, as I can then book all my flights accordingly. My getting there seems to be contingent on being allowed to take my camera equipment on board the flights as hand luggage, following the events of last week. Somehow, I don't think being forced to having them flown in the baggage hold is sensible, as they will then run the risk of going missing, being pilfered, or damaged. Very Best Regards, Barry ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:40 AM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Goodyear brakes I didn't know you could sell them. bilbo _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Farmer Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 10:19 PM Subject: Commander-List: Goodyear brakes There is a set of Goodyear brakes on ebay. Search aero commander. dan farmer _____ Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:06:11 AM PST US From: Dave Phifer Subject: Commander-List: Paint schemes --> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer With all the (depressing) talk about wings spars, how 'bout something more fun. I am looking at having my newly acquired 500B painted and have been scouring the internet looking at paint schemes. I am looking for something "clean", i.e., not too wild as the plane will be used for business travel. I'm having trouble finding one that says, "that's it." Any ideas, samples, or internet sites, etc. would be very welcome. So, if it was your plane, and you were spending my money to paint it, what would it look like? Thanks in advance, -Dave ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:16:50 PM PST US From: JBOBSTER@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes Scheme Designers _www.schemedesigners.com_ (http://www.schemedesigners.com) is a great source. Jim Seattle ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:21 PM PST US From: "css nico" Subject: Commander-List: Paint schemes --> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" Hi Dave, These are the ones I like http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/ZS-RIL/ http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/HP1415/ http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/N519WA/ http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/ZS-KZZ/ and these are the ones I absolutely adore: http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/N461JB/ http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/n501tc/ Browse around a bit here if you wish: http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders I hope this helps. Thanks Nico > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave Phifer > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:05 AM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: Paint schemes > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer > > With all the (depressing) talk about wings spars, how 'bout something more > fun. > > I am looking at having my newly acquired 500B painted and have been > scouring the internet looking at paint schemes. I am looking for something > "clean", i.e., not too wild as the plane will be used for business > travel. I'm having trouble finding one that says, "that's it." > > Any ideas, samples, or internet sites, etc. would be very welcome. > > So, if it was your plane, and you were spending my money to paint it, what > would it look like? > > Thanks in advance, > > -Dave > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:16:14 PM PST US From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes dp, try texasaerocolor.com mason ----- Original Message ----- From: Dave Phifer To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 1:04 PM Subject: Commander-List: Paint schemes --> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer > With all the (depressing) talk about wings spars, how 'bout something more fun. I am looking at having my newly acquired 500B painted and have been scouring the internet looking at paint schemes. I am looking for something "clean", i.e., not too wild as the plane will be used for business travel. I'm having trouble finding one that says, "that's it." Any ideas, samples, or internet sites, etc. would be very welcome. So, if it was your plane, and you were spending my money to paint it, what would it look like? Thanks in advance, -Dave http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:46 PM PST US From: AEROCOMAND@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes In a message dated 8/26/2006 3:47:28 PM Mountain Standard Time, nico@cybersuperstore.com writes: http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/N461JB/ IT IS SUCH A PLEASURE TO SEE N461JB ON THIS SITE.... THE PAINT SCHEME OF WHITE...BLUE AND GOLD TRIM IS A UTOPIA... I JUST FINISHED BUFFING EVERY BIT OF IT AS N261JG GREETING JORGE GONZALEZ SANDIA AIRPARK NORTH..(COMING SOON) 320 DAYS OF NO... IFR SANDIA AIRPARK.COM ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:29:03 PM PST US From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes --> Commander-List message posted by: "Steven" I'm biased, but I love ours..... http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=0656180&size=M Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Phifer" Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 2:04 PM Subject: Commander-List: Paint schemes > --> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer > > With all the (depressing) talk about wings spars, how 'bout something more > fun. > > I am looking at having my newly acquired 500B painted and have been > scouring the internet looking at paint schemes. I am looking for > something "clean", i.e., not too wild as the plane will be used for > business travel. I'm having trouble finding one that says, "that's it." > > Any ideas, samples, or internet sites, etc. would be very welcome. > > So, if it was your plane, and you were spending my money to paint it, what > would it look like? > > Thanks in advance, > > -Dave > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:56 PM PST US From: Dave Phifer Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes Nicco: Thanks for letting me browse around. I'm taking ideas from a number of different schemes. I hope I can add a new series of pictures to your list in a few months! I'm loving my new plane, and just starting to get to know it. All the best, -Dave N12LW [] At 02:38 PM 8/26/2006, you wrote: >--> Commander-List message posted by: "css nico" > >Hi Dave, > > These are the ones I like > http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/ZS-RIL/ > http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/HP1415/ > http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/N519WA/ > http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/ZS-KZZ/ > > and these are the ones I absolutely adore: >http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/N461JB/ >http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/n501tc/ > > Browse around a bit here if you wish: >http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders > > I hope this helps. >Thanks >Nico > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dave >Phifer > > Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2006 11:05 AM > > To: commander-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Commander-List: Paint schemes > > > > --> Commander-List message posted by: Dave Phifer > > > > With all the (depressing) talk about wings spars, how 'bout something more > > fun. > > > > I am looking at having my newly acquired 500B painted and have been > > scouring the internet looking at paint schemes. I am looking for >something > > "clean", i.e., not too wild as the plane will be used for business > > travel. I'm having trouble finding one that says, "that's it." > > > > Any ideas, samples, or internet sites, etc. would be very welcome. > > > > So, if it was your plane, and you were spending my money to paint it, what > > would it look like? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > -Dave > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:26:44 PM PST US From: "css nico" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes Hi Jorge, That is perhaps one of the most beautiful Commanders that I have seen. Care to take and send us pictures of N261JG? Thanks nico http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/Aero%20Commanders/N461JB/ IT IS SUCH A PLEASURE TO SEE N461JB ON THIS SITE.... THE PAINT SCHEME OF WHITE...BLUE AND GOLD TRIM IS A UTOPIA... I JUST FINISHED BUFFING EVERY BIT OF IT AS N261JG GREETING JORGE GONZALEZ SANDIA AIRPARK NORTH..(COMING SOON) 320 DAYS OF NO... IFR SANDIA AIRPARK.COM ======================= ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:53:13 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfield" Subject: Commander-List: Looking for parts for a AC 680 FLP Gentlemen: I'm looking for parts again. Need two items, one is needed ASAP. Aircraft - 1964 Aero Commander 680 FLP w/Mr. RPM Conversion, SN 1479-6 Parts Needed: 1. ASAP - I need the idler arm, or bracket or whatever it may be called, that attaches to the right engine on one end and to the right engine alternator on the other end. Midway on this bracket is the eccentric idler wheel used to adjust belt tension. The arm has a slight bend to it in near the middle. The old arm broke at the bolt hole on the engine side. We've looked for a part number in the manuals and on the part but no luck. I didn't think of it today, but tomorrow I'll take a picture of the item in case that may help anyone who thinks they might have a part. So many of you guys out there are so knowledgeable about the Aero Commanders you probably know how much it weighs, what time of day it was made, and the name of the wife and children of the guy who made it. (Ha! Ha!) 2. Fuel cap - The cap used is about 2 1/2" diameter, and has a zeus type fastener that engages the anti-siphon value in the fuel tank. The small leaf spring on the cap I have is about useless and I have to check after every refueling to be sure the cap is locked in place because the small leaf spring gets out of place and doesn't do it's job. If anyone has such items please email me at www.hcourier@cox.net. My cell phone is 850-217-5185, it's always with me, call anytime. If I'm flying or asleep I turn it off otherwise it rules my life. Thank you, Ray Mansfield Ft. Walton Beach, FL ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 08:43:26 PM PST US From: "Ray Mansfield" Subject: Commander-List: Looking for parts for a AC 680 FLP (Note: I thought I sent this once, but I didn't get my copy. If this is a repeat please excuse) Gentlemen: I'm looking for parts again. Need two items, one is needed ASAP. Aircraft - 1964 Aero Commander 680 FLP w/Mr. RPM Conversion, SN 1479-6 Parts Needed: 1. ASAP - I need the idler arm, or bracket or whatever it may be called, that attaches to the right engine on one end and to the right engine alternator on the other end. Midway on this bracket is the eccentric idler wheel used to adjust belt tension. The arm has a slight bend to it in near the middle. The old arm broke at the bolt hole on the engine side. We've looked for a part number in the manuals and on the part but no luck. I didn't think of it today, but tomorrow I'll take a picture of the item in case that may help anyone who thinks they might have a part. So many of you guys out there are so knowledgeable about the Aero Commanders you probably know how much it weighs, what time of day it was made, and the name of the wife and children of the guy who made it. (Ha! Ha!) 2. Fuel cap - The cap used is about 2 1/2" diameter, and has a zeus type fastener that engages the anti-siphon value in the fuel tank. The small leaf spring on the cap I have is about useless and I have to check after every refueling to be sure the cap is locked in place because the small leaf spring gets out of place and doesn't do it's job. If anyone has such items please email me at www.hcourier@cox.net. My cell phone is 850-217-5185, it's always with me, call anytime. If I'm flying or asleep I turn it off otherwise it rules my life. Thank you, Ray Mansfield Ft. Walton Beach, FL