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1. 07:46 AM - Re: Nose wheel problems ()
2. 12:00 PM - Re: Nose wheel problems (skyhawkc-172@comcast.net)
3. 01:42 PM - Twin Rating + Commander Time in Melbourne (Steve N=?ISO-8859-1?B?+vE=?=ez)
4. 04:06 PM - Re: Nose wheel problems (BillLeff1@aol.com)
5. 04:08 PM - Re: Nose wheel problems (BillLeff1@aol.com)
6. 07:41 PM - Re: Nose wheel problems (Jim Addington)
7. 07:53 PM - Re: Nose wheel problems (Robert S. Randazzo)
8. 08:15 PM - Re: Nose wheel problems (Jim Addington)
9. 11:30 PM - Re: Nose wheel problems (skyhawkc-172@comcast.net)
10. 11:39 PM - Re: Nose wheel problems (skyhawkc-172@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel problems |
--> Commander-List message posted by: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
When I brought mine home had a similar problem.
Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming " the steering collar on
the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction.
The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve pressure
adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual.
After doing these it steers like a dream.
Phil Stubbs
> [Original Message]
> From: Jim Addington <jtaddington@charter.net>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net>
>
> Matt,
> I don't know if the system is any where near the same as my 500A, but, I
had
> a problem one time where I had put the gear handle down and had three
green
> but when we landed and put in right rudder and brake the plane went left.
> What I found was the handle was down and the gear was down with green
lights
> but the handle was not locked down. What I think happened was the ports
were
> not lined up properly and the right side brake and steering was putting
> pressure in the left side. Just my thought which is usually wrong, but,
> thought I would pass it on any way.
>
> Jim Addington
> N444BD
> 500A
>
>
> Subject: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
>
>
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins"
> > <hawkins@cms.udel.edu>
> >
> > Hey all-
> >
> > Well, no luck in selling N2760B here in Delaware - so thinking I'll just
> > start flying her. Have a couple of well qualified pilots with the
> > Commander here at Georgetown.
> >
> > Ran into a problem this weekend though. Know the nose wheel steering is
> > "tricky" - but we're having a problem with it turning hard left and not
> > being able to get it centered again. Even with full right rudder and
> > full throttle on the left engine.
> >
> > When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to center by hand - very
> > little (if any) pressure on the ram.
> >
> > Checked for air in cylinder - nothing.
> >
> > Looking at the hydraulic drawing - could the nose wheel steering by-pass
> > valve be bad? Such that fluid just passes through valve rather than to
> > the ram?
> >
> > Funny that it only goes hard left - never hard right? At least not yet!
> >
> > Hydraulic pressure is running a bit high (1200 psi - just shy of the
> > relief) and we need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I understand.
> > Only hydraulic pump on the left engine.
> >
> > No problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of the slightly high
> > pressure.
> >
> > At about 1000 RPM we can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter" down between
> > the seats where the hand pump selector valve and relief valve are. It
> > goes away at around 1500 RPM.
> >
> > Just trying to give you all the symptoms in case there's a connection.
> > All hydraulic related, but hard left on the nose wheel is the real
> > problem right now.
> >
> > Could it be "operator error" - something we're doing wrong in handling
> > her on the ground? Our pilot with lots of time in the Commander has
> > never had the severe "hard left" problem in his bird - though very
> > familiar with the tricky steering.
> >
> > All suggestions appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Matt
> >
> > ********************
> > Matthew Hawkins
> > Director, Marine Ops
> > R/V HUGH R. SHARP
> > 302-645-4341
> > FAX: 302-645-4006
> > hawkins@udel.edu
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel problems |
Heres a MS flight sim vid for those whom haven't flown their commanders for a bit.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commander
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: ""
>
> When I brought mine home had a similar problem.
> Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming " the steering collar on
> the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction.
> The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve pressure
> adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual.
> After doing these it steers like a dream.
>
> Phil Stubbs
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Jim Addington
> > To:
> > Date: 10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> >
> > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Jim Addington"
>
> >
> > Matt,
> > I don't know if the system is any where near the same as my 500A, but, I
> had
> > a problem one time where I had put the gear handle down and had three
> green
> > but when we landed and put in right rudder and brake the plane went left.
> > What I found was the handle was down and the gear was down with green
> lights
> > but the handle was not locked down. What I think happened was the ports
> were
> > not lined up properly and the right side brake and steering was putting
> > pressure in the left side. Just my thought which is usually wrong, but,
> > thought I would pass it on any way.
> >
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> > 500A
> >
> >
> > Subject: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all-
> > >
> > > Well, no luck in selling N2760B here in Delaware - so thinking I'll just
> > > start flying her. Have a couple of well qualified pilots with the
> > > Commander here at Georgetown.
> > >
> > > Ran into a problem this weekend though. Know the nose wheel steering is
> > > "tricky" - but we're having a problem with it turning hard left and not
> > > being able to get it centered again. Even with full right rudder and
> > > full throttle on the left engine.
> > >
> > > When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to center by hand - very
> > > little (if any) pressure on the ram.
> > >
> > > Checked for air in cylinder - nothing.
> > >
> > > Looking at the hydraulic drawing - could the nose wheel steering by-pass
> > > valve be bad? Such that fluid just passes through valve rather than to
> > > the ram?
> > >
> > > Funny that it only goes hard left - never hard right? At least not yet!
> > >
> > > Hydraulic pressure is running a bit high (1200 psi - just shy of the
> > > relief) and we need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I understand.
> > > Only hydraulic pump on the left engine.
> > >
> > > No problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of the slightly high
> > > pressure.
> > >
> > > At about 1000 RPM we can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter" down between
> > > the seats where the hand pump selector valve and relief valve are. It
> > > goes away at around 1500 RPM.
> > >
> > > Just trying to give you all the symptoms in case there's a connection.
> > > All hydraulic related, but hard left on the nose wheel is the real
> > > problem right now.
> > >
> > > Could it be "operator error" - something we're doing wrong in handling
> > > her on the ground? Our pilot with lots of time in the Commander has
> > > never had the severe "hard left" problem in his bird - though very
> > > familiar with the tricky steering.
> > >
> > > All suggestions appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > ********************
> > > Matthew Hawkins
> > > Director, Marine Ops
> > > R/V HUGH R. SHARP
> > > 302-645-4341
> > > FAX: 302-645-4006
> > > hawkins@udel.edu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
<html><body>
<DIV>Heres a MS flight sim vid for those whom haven't flown their commanders
for a bit.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commander">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commander</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
<BR><BR>> --> Commander-List message posted by:
"" <BR549PHIL@MINDSPRING.COM><BR>> <BR>> When I brought mine home had a
similar problem. <BR>> Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming "
the steering collar on <BR>> the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction.
<BR>> The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve pressure <BR>>
adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual. <BR>> After doing these
it steers like a dream. <BR>> <BR>> Phil Stubbs <BR>> <BR>> <BR>>
> [Original Message] <BR>> > From: Jim Addington <JTADDINGTON@CHARTER.NET><BR>>
> To: <COMMANDER-LIST@MATRONICS.COM><BR>> > Date:
10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM <BR>> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel
problems <BR>> > <BR>> > --> Command
er-Lis
t message posted by: "Jim Addington" <BR>> <JTADDINGTON@CHARTER.NET><BR>>
> <BR>> > Matt, <BR>> > I don't know if the system is any where
near the same as my 500A, but, I <BR>> had <BR>> > a problem one time
where I had put the gear handle down and had three <BR>> green <BR>>
> but when we landed and put in right rudder and brake the plane went left.
<BR>> > What I found was the handle was down and the gear was down with
green <BR>> lights <BR>> > but the handle was not locked down. What
I think happened was the ports <BR>> were <BR>> > not lined up properly
and the right side brake and steering was putting <BR>> > pressure in
the left side. Just my thought which is usually wrong, but, <BR>> > thought
I would pass it on any way. <BR>> > <BR>> > Jim Addington <BR>>
> N444BD <BR>> > 500A <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> >
Subject: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems <BR>>
; >
<BR>> > <BR>> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew
J. Hawkins" <BR>> > > <HAWKINS@CMS.UDEL.EDU><BR>> > > <BR>>
> > Hey all- <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Well, no luck
in selling N2760B here in Delaware - so thinking I'll just <BR>> > >
start flying her. Have a couple of well qualified pilots with the <BR>> >
> Commander here at Georgetown. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Ran
into a problem this weekend though. Know the nose wheel steering is <BR>>
> > "tricky" - but we're having a problem with it turning hard left and
not <BR>> > > being able to get it centered again. Even with full right
rudder and <BR>> > > full throttle on the left engine. <BR>> >
> <BR>> > > When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to
center by hand - very <BR>> > > little (if any) pressure on the ram.
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Checked for air
in cy
linder - nothing. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Looking at the hydraulic
drawing - could the nose wheel steering by-pass <BR>> > > valve be
bad? Such that fluid just passes through valve rather than to <BR>> > >
the ram? <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Funny that it only goes hard
left - never hard right? At least not yet! <BR>> > > <BR>> > >
Hydraulic pressure is running a bit high (1200 psi - just shy of the <BR>>
> > relief) and we need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I understand.
<BR>> > > Only hydraulic pump on the left engine. <BR>> >
> <BR>> > > No problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of
the slightly high <BR>> > > pressure. <BR>> > > <BR>> >
> At about 1000 RPM we can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter" down between
<BR>> > > the seats where the hand pump selector valve and relief valve
are. It <BR>> > > goes away at around 1
500 RP
M. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Just trying to give you all the symptoms
in case there's a connection. <BR>> > > All hydraulic related, but
hard left on the nose wheel is the real <BR>> > > problem right now.
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Could it be "operator error" - something
we're doing wrong in handling <BR>> > > her on the ground? Our pilot
with lots of time in the Commander has <BR>> > > never had the severe
"hard left" problem in his bird - though very <BR>> > > familiar with
the tricky steering. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > All suggestions
appreciated. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Thanks, <BR>> > >
Matt <BR>> > > <BR>> > > ******************** <BR>> >
> Matthew Hawkins <BR>> > > Director, Marine Ops <BR>> > >
R/V HUGH R. SHARP <BR>> > > 302-645-4341 <BR>> > > FAX: 302-645-4006
<BR>> > > hawkins@udel.edu <BR>&
gt; &g
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| Subject: | Twin Rating + Commander Time in Melbourne |
To all of you =8Cdown under=B9:
I=B9m going to be in Melbourne for the next 3-6 months, and would love to get
a twin rating and some experience in a commander. I=B9ve got an American PPL
(SEL). I know about the license conversion process, but need a flight schoo
l
& instructor who can sign me off to take the air law test. Once that=B9s done
,
I want to get the twin rating & commander hours.
Does anyone have any suggestions on where to go?
Regards,
- Steve
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel problems |
Check your nose wheel steering collar for wear on the upper and lower
surfaces. Also the strut could have to much wear. If it has too much clearance
it
will cock when steering one direction.
Bill Leff
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel problems |
Check your nose wheel steering collar for wear on the upper and lower
surfaces. Also the strut could have to much wear. If it has too much clearance
it
will cock when steering one direction.
Bill Leff
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel problems |
That was a nice video, really enjoyed it.
Jim Addington
N444BD
500A
----- Original Message -----
From: skyhawkc-172@comcast.net
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
Heres a MS flight sim vid for those whom haven't flown their
commanders for a bit.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+co
mmander
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: ""
>
> When I brought mine home had a similar problem.
> Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming " the steering
collar on
> the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction.
> The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve pressure
> adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual.
> After doing these it steers like a dream.
>
> Phil Stubbs
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Jim Addington
> > To:
> > Date: 10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> >
> > --> Command er-Lis t message posted by: "Jim Addington"
>
> >
> > Matt,
> > I don't know if the system is any where near the same as my
500A, but, I
> had
> > a problem one time where I had put the gear handle down and had
three
> green
> > but when we landed and put in right rudder and brake the plane
went left.
> > What I found was the handle was down and the gear was down with
green
> lights
> > but the handle was not locked down. What I think happened was
the ports
> were
> > not lined up properly and the right side brake and steering was
putting
> > pressure in the left side. Just my thought which is usually
wrong, but,
> > thought I would pass it on any way.
> >
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> > 500A
> >
> >
> > Subject: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> ; >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all-
> > >
> > > Well, no luck in selling N2760B here in Delaware - so thinking
I'll just
> > > start flying her. Have a couple of well qualified pilots with
the
> > > Commander here at Georgetown.
> > >
> > > Ran into a problem this weekend though. Know the nose wheel
steering is
> > > "tricky" - but we're having a problem with it turning hard
left and not
> > > being able to get it centered again. Even with full right
rudder and
> > > full throttle on the left engine.
> > >
> > > When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to center by
hand - very
> > > little (if any) pressure on the ram.
> > >
> > > Checked for air in cy linder - nothing.
> > >
> > > Looking at the hydraulic drawing - could the nose wheel
steering by-pass
> > > valve be bad? Such that fluid just passes through valve rather
than to
> > > the ram?
> > >
> > > Funny that it only goes hard left - never hard right? At least
not yet!
> > >
> > > Hydraulic pressure is running a bit high (1200 psi - just shy
of the
> > > relief) and we need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I
understand.
> > > Only hydraulic pump on the left engine.
> > >
> > > No problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of the
slightly high
> > > pressure.
> > >
> > > At about 1000 RPM we can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter"
down between
> > > the seats where the hand pump selector valve and relief valve
are. It
> > > goes away at around 1 500 RP M.
> > >
> > > Just trying to give you all the symptoms in case there's a
connection.
> > > All hydraulic related, but hard left on the nose wheel is the
real
> > > problem right now.
> > >
> > > Could it be "operator error" - something we're doing wrong in
handling
> > > her on the ground? Our pilot with lots of time in the
Commander has
> > > never had the severe "hard left" problem in his bird - though
very
> > > familiar with the tricky steering.
> > >
> > > All suggestions appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > ********************
> > > Matthew Hawkins
> > > Director, Marine Ops
> > > R/V HUGH R. SHARP
> > > 302-645-4341
> > > FAX: 302-645-4006
> > > hawkins@udel.edu
& gt; &g List
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| Subject: | Nose wheel problems |
Jim-
It was.... tis a shame that even virtual commanders are starting to show
signs of corrosion tho... hahahah
Rob
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 19:41
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
That was a nice video, really enjoyed it.
Jim Addington
N444BD
500A
----- Original Message -----
From: skyhawkc-172@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
Heres a MS flight sim vid for those whom haven't flown their commanders for
a bit.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937
<http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commande
r> &q=aero+commander
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: ""
>
> When I brought mine home had a similar problem.
> Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming " the steering collar on
> the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction.
> The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve pressure
> adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual.
> After doing these it steers like a dream.
>
> Phil Stubbs
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Jim Addington
> > To:
> > Date: 10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> >
> > --> Command er-Lis t message posted by: "Jim Addington"
>
> >
> > Matt,
> > I don't know if the system is any where near the same as my 500A, but, I
> had
> > a problem one time where I had put the gear handle down and had three
> green
> > but when we landed and put in right rudder and brake the plane went
left.
> > What I found was the handle was down and the gear was down with green
> lights
> > but the handle was not locked down. What I think happened was the ports
> were
> > not lined up properly and the right side brake and steering was putting
> > pressure in the left side. Just my thought which is usually wrong, but,
> > thought I would pass it on any way.
> >
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> > 500A
> >
> >
> > Subject: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> ; >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all-
> > >
> > > Well, no luck in selling N2760B here in Delaware - so thinking I'll
just
> > > start flying her. Have a couple of well qualified pilots with the
> > > Commander here at Georgetown.
> > >
> > > Ran into a problem this weekend though. Know the nose wheel steering
is
> > > "tricky" - but we're having a problem with it turning hard left and
not
> > > being able to get it centered again. Even with full right rudder and
> > > full throttle on the left engine.
> > >
> > > When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to center by hand -
very
> > > little (if any) pressure on the ram.
> > >
> > > Checked for air in cy linder - nothing.
> > >
> > > Looking at the hydraulic drawing - could the nose wheel steering
by-pass
> > > valve be bad? Such that fluid just passes through valve rather than to
> > > the ram?
> > >
> > > Funny that it only goes hard left - never hard right? At least not
yet!
> > >
> > > Hydraulic pressure is running a bit high (1200 psi - just shy of the
> > > relief) and we need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I understand.
> > > Only hydraulic pump on the left engine.
> > >
> > > No problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of the slightly
high
> > > pressure.
> > >
> > > At about 1000 RPM we can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter" down
between
> > > the seats where the hand pump selector valve and relief valve are. It
> > > goes away at around 1 500 RP M.
> > >
> > > Just trying to give you all the symptoms in case there's a connection.
> > > All hydraulic related, but hard left on the nose wheel is the real
> > > problem right now.
> > >
> > > Could it be "operator error" - something we're doing wrong in handling
> > > her on the ground? Our pilot with lots of time in the Commander has
> > > never had the severe "hard left" problem in his bird - though very
> > > familiar with the tricky steering.
> > >
> > > All suggestions appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > ********************
> > > Matthew Hawkins
> > > Director, Marine Ops
> > > R/V HUGH R. SHARP
> > > 302-645-4341
> > > FAX: 302-645-4006
> > > hawkins@udel.edu
& gt; &g List
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Commander-List
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| Subject: | Re: Nose wheel problems |
I noticed, it was sad.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert S. Randazzo
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:52 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
Jim-
It was.... tis a shame that even virtual commanders are starting to
show signs of corrosion tho... hahahah
Rob
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 19:41
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
That was a nice video, really enjoyed it.
Jim Addington
N444BD
500A
----- Original Message -----
From: skyhawkc-172@comcast.net
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
Heres a MS flight sim vid for those whom haven't flown their
commanders for a bit.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+co
mmander
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: ""
>
> When I brought mine home had a similar problem.
> Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming " the steering
collar on
> the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction.
> The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve
pressure
> adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual.
> After doing these it steers like a dream.
>
> Phil Stubbs
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Jim Addington
> > To:
> > Date: 10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> >
> > --> Command er-Lis t message posted by: "Jim Addington"
>
> >
> > Matt,
> > I don't know if the system is any where near the same as my
500A, but, I
> had
> > a problem one time where I had put the gear handle down and
had three
> green
> > but when we landed and put in right rudder and brake the plane
went left.
> > What I found was the handle was down and the gear was down
with green
> lights
> > but the handle was not locked down. What I think happened was
the ports
> were
> > not lined up properly and the right side brake and steering
was putting
> > pressure in the left side. Just my thought which is usually
wrong, but,
> > thought I would pass it on any way.
> >
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> > 500A
> >
> >
> > Subject: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> ; >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all-
> > >
> > > Well, no luck in selling N2760B here in Delaware - so
thinking I'll just
> > > start flying her. Have a couple of well qualified pilots
with the
> > > Commander here at Georgetown.
> > >
> > > Ran into a problem this weekend though. Know the nose wheel
steering is
> > > "tricky" - but we're having a problem with it turning hard
left and not
> > > being able to get it centered again. Even with full right
rudder and
> > > full throttle on the left engine.
> > >
> > > When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to center by
hand - very
> > > little (if any) pressure on the ram.
> > >
> > > Checked for air in cy linder - nothing.
> > >
> > > Looking at the hydraulic drawing - could the nose wheel
steering by-pass
> > > valve be bad? Such that fluid just passes through valve
rather than to
> > > the ram?
> > >
> > > Funny that it only goes hard left - never hard right? At
least not yet!
> > >
> > > Hydraulic pressure is running a bit high (1200 psi - just
shy of the
> > > relief) and we need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I
understand.
> > > Only hydraulic pump on the left engine.
> > >
> > > No problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of the
slightly high
> > > pressure.
> > >
> > > At about 1000 RPM we can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter"
down between
> > > the seats where the hand pump selector valve and relief
valve are. It
> > > goes away at around 1 500 RP M.
> > >
> > > Just trying to give you all the symptoms in case there's a
connection.
> > > All hydraulic related, but hard left on the nose wheel is
the real
> > > problem right now.
> > >
> > > Could it be "operator error" - something we're doing wrong
in handling
> > > her on the ground? Our pilot with lots of time in the
Commander has
> > > never had the severe "hard left" problem in his bird -
though very
> > > familiar with the tricky steering.
> > >
> > > All suggestions appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > ********************
> > > Matthew Hawkins
> > > Director, Marine Ops
> > > R/V HUGH R. SHARP
> > > 302-645-4341
> > > FAX: 302-645-4006
> > > hawkins@udel.edu
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no corrosion here...
MS Flight sim
http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/Snow%20Survey%20HI-RES.wmv
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
I noticed, it was sad.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert S. Randazzo
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:52 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
Jim-
It was.... tis a shame that even virtual commanders are starting to show signs
of corrosion tho... hahahah
Rob
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 19:41
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
That was a nice video, really enjoyed it.
Jim Addington
N444BD
500A
----- Original Message -----
From: skyhawkc-172@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
Heres a MS flight sim vid for those whom haven't flown their commanders for a bit.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commander
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: ""
>
> When I brought mine home had a similar problem.
> Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming " the steering collar on
> the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction.
> The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve pressure
> adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual.
> After doing these it steers like a dream.
>
> Phil Stubbs
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Jim Addington
> > To:
> > Date: 10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> >
> > --> Command er-Lis t message posted by: "Jim Addington"
>
> >
> > Matt,
> > I don't know if the system is any where near the same as my 500A, but, I
> had
> > a problem one time where I had put the gear handle down and had three
> green
> > but when we landed and put in right rudder and brake the plane went left.
> > What I found was the handle was down and the gear was down with green
> lights
> > but the handle was not locked down. What I think happened was the ports
> were
> > not lined up properly and the right side brake and steering was putting
> > pressure in the left side. Just my thought which is usually wrong, but,
> > thought I would pass it on any way.
> >
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> > 500A
> >
> >
> > Subject: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
> ; >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all-
> > >
> > > Well, no luck in selling N2760B here in Delaware - so thinking I'll just
> > > start flying her. Have a couple of well qualified pilots with the
> > > Commander here at Georgetown.
> > >
> > > Ran into a problem this weekend though. Know the nose wheel steering is
> > > "tricky" - but we're having a problem with it turning hard left and not
> > > being able to get it centered again. Even with full right rudder and
> > > full throttle on the left engine.
> > >
> > > When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to center by hand - very
> > > little (if any) pressure on the ram.
> > >
> > > Checked for air in cy linder - nothing.
> > >
> > > Looking at the hydraulic drawing - could the nose wheel steering by-pass
> > > valve be bad? Such that fluid just passes through valve rather than to
> > > the ram?
> > >
> > > Funny that it only goes hard left - never hard right? At least not yet!
> > >
> > > Hydraulic pressure is running a bit high (1200 psi - just shy of the
> > > relief) and we need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I understand.
> > > Only hydraulic pump on the left engine.
> > >
> > > No problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of the slightly high
> > > pressure.
> > >
> > > At about 1000 RPM we can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter" down between
> > > the seats where the hand pump selector valve and relief valve are. It
> > > goes away at around 1 500 RP M.
> > >
> > > Just trying to give you all the symptoms in case there's a connection.
> > > All hydraulic related, but hard left on the nose wheel is the real
> > > problem right now.
> > >
> > > Could it be "operator error" - something we're doing wrong in handling
> > > her on the ground? Our pilot with lots of time in the Commander has
> > > never had the severe "hard left" problem in his bird - though very
> > > familiar with the tricky steering.
> > >
> > > All suggestions appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > ********************
> > > Matthew Hawkins
> > > Director, Marine Ops
> > > R/V HUGH R. SHARP
> > > 302-645-4341
> > > FAX: 302-645-4006
> > > hawkins@udel.edu
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<DIV>no corrosion here...</DIV>
<DIV>MS Flight sim</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/Snow%20Survey%20HI-RES.wmv">http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/Snow%20Survey%20HI-RES.wmv</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px
solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "Jim Addington"
<jtaddington@charter.net> <BR>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>I noticed, it was sad.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Jim</FONT></DIV>
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5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com href="mailto:rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com">Robert S. Randazzo</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=commander-list@matronics.com href="mailto:commander-list@matronics.com">commander-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:52 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634515103-01112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Jim-</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634515103-01112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634515103-01112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>It was.... tis a shame that even virtual commanders are starting
to show signs of corrosion tho... hahahah</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634515103-01112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634515103-01112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Rob</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634515103-01112006></SPAN> </DIV><BR>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com">owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com</A> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim Addington<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 31, 2006 19:41<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:commander-list@matronics.com">commander-list@matronics.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That was a nice video, really enjoyed it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim Addington</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>N444BD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>500A</FONT></DIV>
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5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=skyhawkc-172@comcast.net href="mailto:skyhawkc-172@comcast.net">skyhawkc-172@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=commander-list@matronics.com href="mailto:commander-list@matronics.com">commander-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Heres a MS flight sim vid for those whom haven't flown their commanders
for a bit.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commander">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commander</A></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "" <<A href="mailto:br549phil@mindspring.com">br549phil@mindspring.com</A>> <BR><BR>> --> Commander-List message posted by: "" <BR549PHIL@MINDSPRING.COM><BR>> <BR>> When I brought mine home had a similar problem. <BR>> Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming " the steering collar on <BR>> the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction. <BR>> The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve pressure <BR>> adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual. <BR>> After doing these it steers like a dream. <BR>> <BR>> Phil Stubbs <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > [Original Message] <BR>> > From: Jim Addington <JTADDINGTON@CHARTER.NET><BR>> > To: <COMMANDER-LIST@MATRONICS.COM><BR>> > Date: 10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM <BR>> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel probl
ems <B
R>> > <BR>> > --> Command er-Lis t message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<BR>> <JTADDINGTON@CHARTER.NET><BR>> > <BR>> > Matt, <BR>>
> I don't know if the system is any where near the same as my 500A, but,
I <BR>> had <BR>> > a problem one time where I had put the gear handle
down and had three <BR>> green <BR>> > but when we landed and put
in right rudder and brake the plane went left. <BR>> > What I found was
the handle was down and the gear was down with green <BR>> lights <BR>>
> but the handle was not locked down. What I think happened was the ports
<BR>> were <BR>> > not lined up properly and the right side brake and
steering was putting <BR>> > pressure in the left side. Just my thought
which is usually wrong, but, <BR>> > thought I would pass it on any way.
<BR>> > <BR>> > Jim Addington <BR>> > N444BD <BR>> >
500A <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Subj
ect: C
ommander-List: Nose wheel problems <BR>> ; > <BR>> > <BR>> >
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins" <BR>> >
> <HAWKINS@CMS.UDEL.EDU><BR>> > > <BR>> > > Hey all- <BR>>
> > <BR>> > > Well, no luck in selling N2760B here in Delaware
- so thinking I'll just <BR>> > > start flying her. Have a couple
of well qualified pilots with the <BR>> > > Commander here at Georgetown.
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Ran into a problem this weekend
though. Know the nose wheel steering is <BR>> > > "tricky" - but we're
having a problem with it turning hard left and not <BR>> > > being
able to get it centered again. Even with full right rudder and <BR>> >
> full throttle on the left engine. <BR>> > > <BR>> > >
When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to center by hand - very <BR>>
> > little (if any) pressure on the ram. <BR
>>
> > <BR>> > > Checked for air in cy linder - nothing. <BR>> >
> <BR>> > > Looking at the hydraulic drawing - could the nose
wheel steering by-pass <BR>> > > valve be bad? Such that fluid just passes
through valve rather than to <BR>> > > the ram? <BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Funny that it only goes hard left - never hard right? At
least not yet! <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Hydraulic pressure is running
a bit high (1200 psi - just shy of the <BR>> > > relief) and we
need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I understand. <BR>> > > Only
hydraulic pump on the left engine. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > No
problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of the slightly high <BR>>
> > pressure. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > At about 1000 RPM we
can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter" down between <BR>> > > the seats
where the hand pump selector valve and relief val
ve are
. It <BR>> > > goes away at around 1 500 RP M. <BR>> > > <BR>>
> > Just trying to give you all the symptoms in case there's a connection.
<BR>> > > All hydraulic related, but hard left on the nose wheel
is the real <BR>> > > problem right now. <BR>> > > <BR>>
> > Could it be "operator error" - something we're doing wrong in handling
<BR>> > > her on the ground? Our pilot with lots of time in the
Commander has <BR>> > > never had the severe "hard left" problem in
his bird - though very <BR>> > > familiar with the tricky steering.
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > All suggestions appreciated. <BR>> >
> <BR>> > > Thanks, <BR>> > > Matt <BR>> > >
<BR>> > > ******************** <BR>> > > Matthew Hawkins <BR>>
> > Director, Marine Ops <BR>> > > R/V HUGH R. SHARP <BR>>
> > 302-645-4341 <BR>> > > FAX: 3
02-645
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OK, the real thing.
http://www.aviationspeakers.com/Speakers/bob-hoover.php
-------------- Original message --------------
From: skyhawkc-172@comcast.net
no corrosion here...
MS Flight sim
http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/Snow%20Survey%20HI-RES.wmv
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "Jim Addington" <jtaddington@charter.net>
I noticed, it was sad.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: Robert S. Randazzo
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:52 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
Jim-
It was.... tis a shame that even virtual commanders are starting to show signs
of corrosion tho... hahahah
Rob
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim Addington
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 19:41
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
That was a nice video, really enjoyed it.
Jim Addington
N444BD
500A
----- Original Message -----
From: skyhawkc-172@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:59 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems
Heres a MS flight sim vid for those whom haven't flown their commanders for a bit.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commander
-------------- Original message --------------
From: "" <br549phil@mindspring.com>
> --> Commander-List message posted by: ""
>
> When I brought mine home had a similar problem.
> Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming " the steering collar on
> the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction.
> The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve pressure
> adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual.
> After doing these it steers like a dream.
>
> Phil Stubbs
>
>
> > [Original Message]
> > From: Jim Addington
> > To:
> > Date: 10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM
> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel probl ems > >
> > --> Command er-Lis t message posted by: "Jim Addington"
>
> >
> > Matt,
> > I don't know if the system is any where near the same as my 500A, but, I
> had
> > a problem one time where I had put the gear handle down and had three
> green
> > but when we landed and put in right rudder and brake the plane went left.
> > What I found was the handle was down and the gear was down with green
> lights
> > but the handle was not locked down. What I think happened was the ports
> were
> > not lined up properly and the right side brake and steering was putting
> > pressure in the left side. Just my thought which is usually wrong, but,
> > thought I would pass it on any way.
> >
> > Jim Addington
> > N444BD
> > 500A
> >
> >
> > Subj ect: C ommander-List: Nose wheel problems
> ; >
> >
> > > --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins"
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all-
> > >
> > > Well, no luck in selling N2760B here in Delaware - so thinking I'll just
> > > start flying her. Have a couple of well qualified pilots with the
> > > Commander here at Georgetown.
> > >
> > > Ran into a problem this weekend though. Know the nose wheel steering is
> > > "tricky" - but we're having a problem with it turning hard left and not
> > > being able to get it centered again. Even with full right rudder and
> > > full throttle on the left engine.
> > >
> > > When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to center by hand - very
> > > little (if any) pressure on the ram.
> > >
> > > Checked for air in cy linder - nothing.
> > >
> > > Looking at the hydraulic drawing - could the nose wheel steering by-pass
> > > valve be bad? Such that fluid just passes through valve rather than to
> > > the ram?
> > >
> > > Funny that it only goes hard left - never hard right? At least not yet!
> > >
> > > Hydraulic pressure is running a bit high (1200 psi - just shy of the
> > > relief) and we need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I understand.
> > > Only hydraulic pump on the left engine.
> > >
> > > No problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of the slightly high
> > > pressure.
> > >
> > > At about 1000 RPM we can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter" down between
> > > the seats where the hand pump selector valve and relief val ve are . It
> > > goes away at around 1 500 RP M.
> > >
> > > Just trying to give you all the symptoms in case there's a connection.
> > > All hydraulic related, but hard left on the nose wheel is the real
> > > problem right now.
> > >
> > > Could it be "operator error" - something we're doing wrong in handling
> > > her on the ground? Our pilot with lots of time in the Commander has
> > > never had the severe "hard left" problem in his bird - though very
> > > familiar with the tricky steering.
> > >
> > > All suggestions appreciated.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Matt
> > >
> > > ********************
> > > Matthew Hawkins
> > > Director, Marine Ops
> > > R/V HUGH R. SHARP
> > > 302-645-4341
> > > FAX: 3 02-645 -4006
> > > hawkins@udel.edu
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<DIV>OK, the real thing. </DIV>
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<DIV>no corrosion here...</DIV>
<DIV>MS Flight sim</DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/Snow%20Survey%20HI-RES.wmv">http://www.aoc.noaa.gov/Snow%20Survey%20HI-RES.wmv</A></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>I noticed, it was sad.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=4>Jim</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com href="mailto:rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com">Robert S. Randazzo</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=commander-list@matronics.com href="mailto:commander-list@matronics.com">commander-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 31, 2006 9:52 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems</DIV>
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size=2>Jim-</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634515103-01112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>It was.... tis a shame that even virtual commanders are starting
to show signs of corrosion tho... hahahah</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=634515103-01112006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2>Rob</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com">owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com</A> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Jim Addington<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 31, 2006 19:41<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:commander-list@matronics.com">commander-list@matronics.com</A><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>That was a nice video, really enjoyed it.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Jim Addington</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>N444BD</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>500A</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A title=skyhawkc-172@comcast.net href="mailto:skyhawkc-172@comcast.net">skyhawkc-172@comcast.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=commander-list@matronics.com href="mailto:commander-list@matronics.com">commander-list@matronics.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, October 31, 2006 1:59 PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel problems</DIV>
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<DIV>Heres a MS flight sim vid for those whom haven't flown their commanders
for a bit.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><A href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commander">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4390310129931723937&q=aero+commander</A></DIV>
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<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">-------------- Original message -------------- <BR>From: "" <<A href="mailto:br549phil@mindspring.com">br549phil@mindspring.com</A>> <BR><BR>> --> Commander-List message posted by: "" <BR549PHIL@MINDSPRING.COM><BR>> <BR>> When I brought mine home had a similar problem. <BR>> Most of the fault was with somebody "overshimming " the steering collar on <BR>> the nose wheel so that it had lots of friction. <BR>> The second part of the fix was to follow the brake valve pressure <BR>> adjustment procedure in the maintenance manual. <BR>> After doing these it steers like a dream. <BR>> <BR>> Phil Stubbs <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > [Original Message] <BR>> > From: Jim Addington <JTADDINGTON@CHARTER.NET><BR>> > To: <COMMANDER-LIST@MATRONICS.COM><BR>> > Date: 10/30/2006 10:37:12 PM <BR>> > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Nose wheel probl
ems <
B R>> > <BR>> > --> Command er-Lis t message posted by: "Jim Addington"
<BR>> <JTADDINGTON@CHARTER.NET><BR>> > <BR>> > Matt, <BR>>
> I don't know if the system is any where near the same as my 500A,
but, I <BR>> had <BR>> > a problem one time where I had put the gear
handle down and had three <BR>> green <BR>> > but when we landed and
put in right rudder and brake the plane went left. <BR>> > What I found
was the handle was down and the gear was down with green <BR>> lights <BR>>
> but the handle was not locked down. What I think happened was the ports
<BR>> were <BR>> > not lined up properly and the right side brake
and steering was putting <BR>> > pressure in the left side. Just my thought
which is usually wrong, but, <BR>> > thought I would pass it on any
way. <BR>> > <BR>> > Jim Addington <BR>> > N444BD <BR>> >
500A <BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > Su
bj ect
: C ommander-List: Nose wheel problems <BR>> ; > <BR>> > <BR>> >
> --> Commander-List message posted by: "Matthew J. Hawkins" <BR>>
> > <HAWKINS@CMS.UDEL.EDU><BR>> > > <BR>> > > Hey all-
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > Well, no luck in selling N2760B here
in Delaware - so thinking I'll just <BR>> > > start flying her. Have
a couple of well qualified pilots with the <BR>> > > Commander here at
Georgetown. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Ran into a problem this weekend
though. Know the nose wheel steering is <BR>> > > "tricky" - but
we're having a problem with it turning hard left and not <BR>> > >
being able to get it centered again. Even with full right rudder and <BR>>
> > full throttle on the left engine. <BR>> > > <BR>> > >
When you shut down, you can go out and turn it to center by hand - very <BR>>
> > little (if any) pressure on the ram.
<BR>&
gt; > > <BR>> > > Checked for air in cy linder - nothing. <BR>>
> > <BR>> > > Looking at the hydraulic drawing - could the nose
wheel steering by-pass <BR>> > > valve be bad? Such that fluid just
passes through valve rather than to <BR>> > > the ram? <BR>> >
> <BR>> > > Funny that it only goes hard left - never hard right?
At least not yet! <BR>> > > <BR>> > > Hydraulic pressure
is running a bit high (1200 psi - just shy of the <BR>> > > relief) and
we need to adjust down to be 900 - 1100 as I understand. <BR>> > >
Only hydraulic pump on the left engine. <BR>> > > <BR>> > >
No problem with flap or gear - just "quick" because of the slightly high <BR>>
> > pressure. <BR>> > > <BR>> > > At about 1000 RPM
we can hear a bit of hydraulic "chatter" down between <BR>> > > the
seats where the hand pump selector valve and relief
val v
e are . It <BR>> > > goes away at around 1 500 RP M. <BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Just trying to give you all the symptoms in case there's
a connection. <BR>> > > All hydraulic related, but hard left on the nose
wheel is the real <BR>> > > problem right now. <BR>> > >
<BR>> > > Could it be "operator error" - something we're doing wrong
in handling <BR>> > > her on the ground? Our pilot with lots of time
in the Commander has <BR>> > > never had the severe "hard left" problem
in his bird - though very <BR>> > > familiar with the tricky steering.
<BR>> > > <BR>> > > All suggestions appreciated. <BR>>
> > <BR>> > > Thanks, <BR>> > > Matt <BR>> >
> <BR>> > > ******************** <BR>> > > Matthew Hawkins
<BR>> > > Director, Marine Ops <BR>> > > R/V HUGH R. SHARP
<BR>> > > 302-645-4341 <BR>> > >
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