Commander-List Digest Archive

Tue 11/28/06


Total Messages Posted: 9



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     0. 12:40 AM - Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] (Matt Dralle)
     1. 07:03 AM - Re: Happy Birthday (Barry Collman)
     2. 07:40 AM - Re: Happy birthday (OldBob Siegfried)
     3. 07:52 AM - Re: Happy Birthday (Deneal Schilmeister (Portege))
     4. 09:37 AM - Re: Happy Birthday (nico css)
     5. 09:48 AM - Re: Happy Birthday (Barry Collman)
     6. 09:54 AM - Re: Happy Birthday (Tom Fisher)
     7. 07:38 PM - Re: EP-AGT - 680FLP-1643-31 (cloudcraft@aol.com)
     8. 07:54 PM - Commander part needed (Ray Mansfield)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:40:24 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read]
    Dear Listers, Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web development and CGI design during this period. I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few. For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter, a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet connection with full static addressing. The computer servers found here include a brand new, quad-processor Xeon Linux server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage, soon to be upgraded to over 6 Terra Bytes! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month this Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone! I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists. This year I added another rack to house the new MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition of the second rack: http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister. But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you... and YOU! To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running! Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists! http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matronics / Matt Dralle PO Box 347 Livermore CA 94551-0347 USA (Please include your email address on the check!) Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 07:03:53 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Happy Birthday
    Hi Guys, I remember reading somewhere years ago that when you reach 50, you lose 2,000 memory cells a day. I'm at a big disadvantage here, as I wasn't born with that many to start with ;-) Anyway, I'm going to send another Email shortly, as soon as I've remembered what I was really going to say in this one. Ah! No! - it's OK, I've just had a flash of recall ........ With all this chat about Birthdays and old flyers, I completely forgot that we here in the UK can probably boast to have the oldest Commander owner/pilot anywhere in the World. John Houlder has owned a 680E, s/n 753-41, G-AWOE since August 1968 and has flown it to many places around the World. He usually flies to Samedan in Switzerland to put in some skiing practice at least once a year. With a bunch of other owner/pilots, they sometimes set off in a group, called the "Air Squadron", which has included a P-51 Mustang and a Cessna Citation, to tour various Countries. I know they all went to the US one year, South Africa another year, and Russia in another year! He has evidently admitted that he has had to give up downhill ski-ing as he becomes scared doing steep turns - but he is still IFR at 90! Single pilot and there is no doubt about that as co pilot's control wheel is removed, thanks to Doug Jacob, Authorised Service Center "Delta Tango". So, come on - any older or bolder over the pond or down under?? Those of you with the Volume 5, Number 1 issue of Twin Commander's "Flight Levels" magazine, published in Spring 2000, can read more about John and other people over here in the UK. Best Regards, Barry


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    Time: 07:40:46 AM PST US
    From: OldBob Siegfried <oldbob@beechowners.com>
    Subject: Happy birthday
    Good Morning Nico, I am not currently flying a Commander but I regularly fly a Beech Model 18, a Piper Pacer, a Baron, my V35B Bonanza and my Stearman. On my last birthday, I turned seventy-seven. There is a fine young man in upstate New York named Johnny Miller who will be one hundred and one on December 15th of this year. He was regularly flying his Bonanza (IFR and all) when he was ninety-nine. John has not been able to get his physical passed for the last couple of years, but he is still an active flight instructor and does perform those functions which are legal to do with his present status. When I grow up I want to be just like Johnny Miller! Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8503 --- nico css <nico@cybersuperstore.com> wrote: > I was wondering whether I would still be able to fly > beyond 70. There are > folks here who's doing that, so thanks for keeping > it up, guys. > > > > _____ > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of > dfalik@sbcglobal.net > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 7:29 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: Happy birthday > > > > 1946 was an exceptional year as I turned 60 in > April. I read that the time > spent flying is not deducted from one's life span so > the 300+ hours I spend > each year in my 500S is going to extend my life > span. > > > > Happy birthday to Mason and a happy holidays to all > on this web site. I > spent 11 years on the Single Commander site and now > have 2.5 years on this > site. What a way to spend pleasurable time and > learn at the same time. > > > > Don > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of Bill Bow > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 6:25 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Commander-List: Happy birthday > > > > Happy Birthday Mason! May the Maintenance Gods smile > on your plane and your > butt. > > I hope you didn't end am airline career because of > your birthday. > > > > My 60th will not be happy for me. > > > > bilbo > > > > _____ > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of css nico > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 11:47 AM > To: Commander-List@Matronics.Com > Subject: Commander-List: Happy birthday > > > > Happy birthday, Mason. 1946 was a very good year. > Mine came and went in > June. > > Nico > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] > On Behalf Of > WINGFLYER1@aol.com > Sent: Monday, November 27, 2006 8:30 AM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: > 1 Msgs - 11/26/06 > > > > Mason, Although I don`t know you, I want to wish you > a very happy birthday. > Anyone who loves or flys commanders has to be a good > person. I fly a 680 and > love it. I will be 67 in Jan. and hope to be flying > commanders until I am > shot by a jealous husband when I am a 100. HAPPY > BIRTHDAY Gil Walker > Wingflyer1@aol.com > > > > www.aeroelectric.com > www.kitlog.com > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > > > www.aeroelectric.com > <http://www.kitlog.com> www.kitlog.com > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > <http://www.aeroelectric.com> www.aeroelectric.com > * The Builder's Bookstore www.buildersbooks.com > * Aeroware Enterprises www.kitlog.com > * HomebuiltHELP www.homebuilthelp.com > List Contribution Web Site > --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > Thank you for your generous support! > -Matt Dralle, List > Admin. > > - The Commander-List Email Forum - > --> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > > > > > > >


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    Time: 07:52:36 AM PST US
    From: "Deneal Schilmeister (Portege)" <deneals@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Happy Birthday
    www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution Well, I got to thinking about Jack Broome, but he is only 88. http://aviationnow.com/avnow/news/channel_bca_story.jsp?id=news/mu2_020 6.xml John S. "Jack" Broome of Oxnard, Calif.-based Broome Ranches has been flying MU-2B aircraft for more than three decades, accumulating more than 2,700 flight hours in type. He first soloed in 1935, later became a military pilot and airline captain, and he served on the NBAA's board of directors for 20 years. He owned and operated Beech 18s for 27 years before buying his first MU-2B in 1973. He hasn't had an accident in 70 years of flying. He has forceful opinions about the MU-2B allegedly being unsafe. "Going back years ago, folks said the same thing about the V-tail Bonanza, Learjets and Aerostars." He puts prime importance on being a competent, well-trained pilot. "People can get out of a Cessna 310, legally step into an MU-2B and say 'I don't need any training.' Then they get themselves into trouble." That results in accidents, which in turn, drive down resale prices and drive up insurance premiums. "There are lots of good airplanes out there, but this one will do 300-plus knots on 80 gallons per hour. It will also slow down to 120 KIAS on approach. There's just no way to get into trouble with the airplane if you fly it by the numbers. For example, I don't use full flaps until I'm over the fence and slowing to final landing speed. I don't want any surprises; I'm too old for surprises," he said. Broome insists on undergoing rigorous recurrent training and has high praise for Mitsubishi's Pilot Review of Proficiency (PROP) training program. "That makes the best pilots out of MU-2 pilots," he said. A veteran pilot with thousands of hours in DC-3s, DC-4s and Beech 18s, Broome claims that each of those aircraft was considerably more difficult to fly than the MU-2B. "I've had 'memorable landings' in all those aircraft," he said, "but I've had no memorable landings in the MU-2." He thinks the MU-2B is a "pussycat' and he wouldn't sell the aircraft unless he couldn't fly it. Now 88, Broome still flies his current MU-2B regularly. Col. Frank Borman, the former Apollo astronaut, flew three models of MU-2B aircraft during a 15-year period, accumulating a total of 3,500 hours flight time. "They run very, very well and they're most robust, built like military airplanes," he told B&CA. "It's a solid, honest airplane." Borman said he underwent FlightSafety recurrent training yearly while operating the MU-2 and attended the Mitsubishi-sponsored, three-day PROP course. He believes other MU-2B pilots should do the same, but that most just don't get enough training. "If you're a relatively new multiengine pilot, if you lose an engine you'll have your hands full." The Las Cruces, N.M., resident believes that the recent pressure from certain congressmen to force grounding of the aircraft is totally unwarranted. "I don't understand the criticisms of the aircraft. It went through two FAA certification procedures, plus the most extensive flight into known icing approval I can remember." ___________________________ Deneal Schilmeister------------------- 2 score 14 (& losing brain cells quickly) St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm -----Original Message----- From: Barry Collman Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:03 AM Hi Guys, www.homebuilthelp.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution I remember reading somewhere years ago that when you reach 50, you lose 2,000 memory cells a day. I'm at a big disadvantage here, as I wasn't born with that many to start with ;-) www.homebuilthelp.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution Anyway, I'm going to send another Email shortly, as soon as I've remembered what I was really going to say in this one. www.homebuilthelp.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution Ah! No! - it's OK, I've just had a flash of recall ........ www.homebuilthelp.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution With all this chat about Birthdays and old flyers, I completely forgot that we here in the UK can probably boast to have the oldest Commander owner/pilot anywhere in the World. www.homebuilthelp.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution John Houlder has owned a 680E, s/n 753-41, G-AWOE since August 1968 and has flown it to many places around the World. He usually flies to Samedan in Switzerland to put in some skiing practice at least once a year. With a bunch of other owner/pilots, they sometimes set off in a group, called the "Air Squadron", which has included a P-51 Mustang and a Cessna Citation, to tour various Countries. I know they all went to the US one year, South Africa another year, and Russia in another year! www.homebuilthelp.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution He has evidently admitted that he has had to give up downhill ski-ing as he becomes scared doing steep turns - but he is still IFR at 90! Single pilot and there is no doubt about that as co pilot's control wheel is removed, thanks to Doug Jacob, Authorised Service Center "Delta Tango". So, come on - any older or bolder over the pond or down under?? Those of you with the Volume 5, Number 1 issue of Twin Commander's "Flight Levels" magazine, published in Spring 2000, can read more about John and other people over here in the UK. Best Regards, Barry


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    Time: 09:37:31 AM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Happy Birthday
    WOW! Now I feel silly for worrying about flying at 60. Any chance we can get that mag over here in the states? Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:03 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Happy Birthday Hi Guys, I remember reading somewhere years ago that when you reach 50, you lose 2,000 memory cells a day. I'm at a big disadvantage here, as I wasn't born with that many to start with ;-) Anyway, I'm going to send another Email shortly, as soon as I've remembered what I was really going to say in this one. Ah! No! - it's OK, I've just had a flash of recall ........ With all this chat about Birthdays and old flyers, I completely forgot that we here in the UK can probably boast to have the oldest Commander owner/pilot anywhere in the World. John Houlder has owned a 680E, s/n 753-41, G-AWOE since August 1968 and has flown it to many places around the World. He usually flies to Samedan in Switzerland to put in some skiing practice at least once a year. With a bunch of other owner/pilots, they sometimes set off in a group, called the "Air Squadron", which has included a P-51 Mustang and a Cessna Citation, to tour various Countries. I know they all went to the US one year, South Africa another year, and Russia in another year! He has evidently admitted that he has had to give up downhill ski-ing as he becomes scared doing steep turns - but he is still IFR at 90! Single pilot and there is no doubt about that as co pilot's control wheel is removed, thanks to Doug Jacob, Authorised Service Center "Delta Tango". So, come on - any older or bolder over the pond or down under?? Those of you with the Volume 5, Number 1 issue of Twin Commander's "Flight Levels" magazine, published in Spring 2000, can read more about John and other people over here in the UK. Best Regards, Barry


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    Time: 09:48:47 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Happy Birthday
    Hi Nico & All, If you own a Commander and don't receive the "Flight Levels" magazine, get in touch with Twin Commander. The format of the mag has changed in last few years, but there's usually something of interest in there. ----- Original Message ----- From: nico css To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Happy Birthday WOW! Now I feel silly for worrying about flying at 60. Any chance we can get that mag over here in the states? Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:03 AM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Happy Birthday Hi Guys, I remember reading somewhere years ago that when you reach 50, you lose 2,000 memory cells a day. I'm at a big disadvantage here, as I wasn't born with that many to start with ;-) Anyway, I'm going to send another Email shortly, as soon as I've remembered what I was really going to say in this one. Ah! No! - it's OK, I've just had a flash of recall ........ With all this chat about Birthdays and old flyers, I completely forgot that we here in the UK can probably boast to have the oldest Commander owner/pilot anywhere in the World. John Houlder has owned a 680E, s/n 753-41, G-AWOE since August 1968 and has flown it to many places around the World. He usually flies to Samedan in Switzerland to put in some skiing practice at least once a year. With a bunch of other owner/pilots, they sometimes set off in a group, called the "Air Squadron", which has included a P-51 Mustang and a Cessna Citation, to tour various Countries. I know they all went to the US one year, South Africa another year, and Russia in another year! He has evidently admitted that he has had to give up downhill ski-ing as he becomes scared doing steep turns - but he is still IFR at 90! Single pilot and there is no doubt about that as co pilot's control wheel is removed, thanks to Doug Jacob, Authorised Service Center "Delta Tango". So, come on - any older or bolder over the pond or down under?? Those of you with the Volume 5, Number 1 issue of Twin Commander's "Flight Levels" magazine, published in Spring 2000, can read more about John and other people over here in the UK. Best Regards, Barry href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List


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    Time: 09:54:52 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: Happy Birthday
    I find that "Flight Levels" is catered to turbines only, with one or two adds for piston conversions. Tom F. ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Collman To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:48 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Happy Birthday Hi Nico & All, If you own a Commander and don't receive the "Flight Levels" magazine, get in touch with Twin Commander. The format of the mag has changed in last few years, but there's usually something of interest in there. ----- Original Message ----- From: nico css To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:37 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Happy Birthday WOW! Now I feel silly for worrying about flying at 60. Any chance we can get that mag over here in the states? Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 7:03 AM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Happy Birthday Hi Guys, I remember reading somewhere years ago that when you reach 50, you lose 2,000 memory cells a day. I'm at a big disadvantage here, as I wasn't born with that many to start with ;-) Anyway, I'm going to send another Email shortly, as soon as I've remembered what I was really going to say in this one. Ah! No! - it's OK, I've just had a flash of recall ........ With all this chat about Birthdays and old flyers, I completely forgot that we here in the UK can probably boast to have the oldest Commander owner/pilot anywhere in the World. John Houlder has owned a 680E, s/n 753-41, G-AWOE since August 1968 and has flown it to many places around the World. He usually flies to Samedan in Switzerland to put in some skiing practice at least once a year. With a bunch of other owner/pilots, they sometimes set off in a group, called the "Air Squadron", which has included a P-51 Mustang and a Cessna Citation, to tour various Countries. I know they all went to the US one year, South Africa another year, and Russia in another year! He has evidently admitted that he has had to give up downhill ski-ing as he becomes scared doing steep turns - but he is still IFR at 90! Single pilot and there is no doubt about that as co pilot's control wheel is removed, thanks to Doug Jacob, Authorised Service Center "Delta Tango". So, come on - any older or bolder over the pond or down under?? Those of you with the Volume 5, Number 1 issue of Twin Commander's "Flight Levels" magazine, published in Spring 2000, can read more about John and other people over here in the UK. Best Regards, Barry href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://www.aeroelectric.com">www.aeroelectric.com href="http://www.buildersbooks.com">www.buildersbooks.com href="http://www.kitlog.com">www.kitlog.com href="http://www.homebuilthelp.com">www.homebuilthelp.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List


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    Time: 07:38:26 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: EP-AGT - 680FLP-1643-31
    From: cloudcraft@aol.com
    -----Original Message----- From: barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk To: CloudCraft@aol.com; YOURTCFG@aol.com Sent: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 9:29 AM Subject: EP-AGT - 680FLP-1643-31 Hi Guys, The attached photo is on "the net". Shown as EP-AGT, which was a 680FLP, s/n 1643-31, supplied new to Iran in August 1966. Is shown as being with the Civil Aviation Technology College, at Mehrabad Airport,Tehran and is worked on by college students. But, does this look like a panel from a Pressurized model? Sir Barry, Yes, the cabin pressure controller is clearly visible to the right of the pilot's controll yoke column and the cabin rate-of-change (or cabin VSI) and cabin pressure differential gauge are to the left of the column. Allah is merciful. Wing Commander Gordon [Image Removed] ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 07:54:54 PM PST US
    From: "Ray Mansfield" <hcourier@cox.net>
    Subject: Commander part needed
    Hello, I am in need of an idler arm pulley wheel and eccentric for the right engine (the fan belt idler arm eccentric belt tightner) of the Aero Commander 680 FLP I fly. The pulley bearing decided to come apart 10 minutes out of Oxford, MS last Monday. Actually didn't know it until I got on the ground other than that the alternator wasn't quit taking a load. I though it was an alternator or regulator problem. Once on the ground I found two broken fan belts, and the pulley just as "loose as a goose" on the idler arm. The idler arm pulley wheel part number is: LW 10578. The wheel itself is for a two fan belt setup. Anyone who may know where I can get one please let me know, I'm based in Destin, FL. My email address is: hcourier@cox.net. I must not know how to use this site as this is the second time I've emailed a request to the site and didn't get a copy myself...which to me means it may not have gotten out to folks. If this is a second "issue" please disregard...unless you have the needed part. Thank you, Ray Mansfield




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