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1. 06:24 AM - Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (Barry Collman)
2. 08:41 AM - Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (Budplaster@aol.com)
3. 09:37 AM - Need a Parts Manual for 690A (Nick Martin)
4. 10:27 AM - Re: Need a Parts Manual for 690A (David Owens)
5. 01:23 PM - 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? (tothetop)
6. 01:34 PM - Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? (Tom Fisher)
7. 01:47 PM - Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? (Tylor Hall)
8. 04:47 PM - Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? (nico css)
9. 06:17 PM - Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? (Jim Addington)
10. 06:58 PM - Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? (tothetop)
11. 10:28 PM - Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? (BillLeff1@aol.com)
12. 10:31 PM - Re: Need a Parts Manual for 690A (BillLeff1@aol.com)
13. 11:13 PM - Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? (apg86)
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
Hi Nick,
Firstly, I apologise for not responding to this before, but I've not been
feeling that well for a couple of days. Aching joints and 'flu-like symptoms
have kept me fairly quiet, but I feel a little bit better today.
Your Model 685 was s/n 12059. After being N685PE, it became N685RB in May 1980.
Sadly though, it was damaged beyond repair at Southern Pines-Moore County,North
Carolina (NTSB report ATL89LA121) on April 5th 1989 and has been parted out by
Atlanta Air Salvage, Griffin-Spalding County Airport, Georgia.
I'm sure others on the list will know of any 685's being offered for sale, but
surely Buddy Plaster has one, serial number 112043, N685TT.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
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From: "inphelan" <nickphelan@qwest.net>
Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 9:06 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
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| At the risk of sounding elitist, my family owned quite a few aircraft over the
years (from the mid-60's) -- We're spread out over North America, coast to
coast. Oddly enough, of ALL the aircraft, our family liked the 685 Commander
the MOST. They found it simply the quietest, most comfortable, cabin for the
majority of our legs. I did most of the driving. (Like the rest of me, my
memory is beginning to fall apart, so some of these details might be
"challenged") In 1973/1974 we purchased a factory NEW 685 from Eagle Creek (IN)
and had it interiored/avionics in Columbus, OH. It was a pretty fine
installation for both front end and back end folks. The aircraft was based in
IND (and later in BFI) and numbered 685PE. For several years we used it
extensively. It performed flawlessly through all kinds of adverse conditions,
Northern Canada to the deserts of West Texas, having only a single failure -- #1
engine over RIC -- which resulted in an uneventful single engined landin!
| g there. In the late 1970's, the family sold the 685 and replaced it with a
Merlin and subsequently several other aircraft before the simple aging of the
members and their geographic dispersement made flying our own aircraft simply
not feasible. But they never forgot the 685. They have asked me to try to find
it; see if it is for sale and aquire it, or a similar aircraft, if possible. I
have done some searching but have run aground. Perhaps some of you all in the
"Commander circles" might cast some light on this quest. One caveat: I am
relatively sure, but not positive, the s/n was 12059. It might have been 12057.
Any guidance, rumors, suggestions, warnings, from this group would be most
appreciated. Nick Thomas
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
Barry,
We must have been on the "same flight", metaphorically speaking, because I,
too, have been feeling the same way. But, a couple of young guys like us will
get through this without harm.
I am very much willing to sell my 685-2100 hours TT, 125 hours on each
engine plus all the other neat stuff.
Also, I have folks looking at my 560E at a very fair price. Once these two
great machines are sold to two lucky some ones I am getting a 690A or B before
I am unable to fly without a "younger than I am right-seater"... a
not-so-nice subject with me.
Feel Better,
Buddy
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| Subject: | Need a Parts Manual for 690A |
I am looking for a parts manual for the Commander 690 A . Does anyone know
where I can buy one ? thanks, N690DB
Nicolas E. Martin
Martin Container, Inc.
1402 E. Lomita Blvd.
Wilmington, Ca 90748
Tel: 310-830-5000, Fax : 310-830-2562
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| Subject: | Re: Need a Parts Manual for 690A |
go to http://www.esscoaircraft.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=2549
for the manual
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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| Subject: | 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? |
I have just bought a 1969 Commander 500S{N88CB} that the main gear failed on during
a hard landing. I bid on it and won it and now my wife is about to kill me.
I was considering selling it in Arizona at its present location or maybe selling
just half?? Also i will need some parts, one actuator on each main is broken,
plus Misc other stuff. Who can help me in finding Commander Parts? Any information
will be appreciated. Thanks
Rich Ziesmer
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| Subject: | Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? |
Getting a new wife might be easier.
Tom F.
C-GISS
680FLP (Mr.RPM)
----- Original Message -----
From: "tothetop" <zzztothetop@MSN.COM>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:22 PM
Subject: Commander-List: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do????
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> I have just bought a 1969 Commander 500S{N88CB} that the main gear failed
> on during a hard landing. I bid on it and won it and now my wife is about
> to kill me. I was considering selling it in Arizona at its present
> location or maybe selling just half?? Also i will need some parts, one
> actuator on each main is broken, plus Misc other stuff. Who can help me in
> finding Commander Parts? Any information will be appreciated. Thanks
> Rich Ziesmer
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'091#96091
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| Subject: | Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? |
Rich,
Commander Aero, in Oh has rebuilt actuators. Here is a link to their
web site.
They have parts and can fix stuff. Gary Kromer is their service
manager and has been doing Commander stuff for a long time.
http://www.commander-aero.com/hpump.htm
Sounds like a really hard landing. Is there a lot of belly damage?
Tylor Hall
ABQ, NM
On Feb 19, 2007, at 2:22 PM, tothetop wrote:
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> I have just bought a 1969 Commander 500S{N88CB} that the main gear
> failed on during a hard landing. I bid on it and won it and now my
> wife is about to kill me. I was considering selling it in Arizona
> at its present location or maybe selling just half?? Also i will
> need some parts, one actuator on each main is broken, plus Misc
> other stuff. Who can help me in finding Commander Parts? Any
> information will be appreciated. Thanks
> Rich Ziesmer
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'091#96091
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| Subject: | 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? |
Just get the Shrike in the air and she'll come around ending up loving it;
killing you again when you sell it.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tothetop
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 1:23 PM
Subject: Commander-List: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do????
I have just bought a 1969 Commander 500S{N88CB} that the main gear failed on
during a hard landing. I bid on it and won it and now my wife is about to
kill me. I was considering selling it in Arizona at its present location or
maybe selling just half?? Also i will need some parts, one actuator on each
main is broken, plus Misc other stuff. Who can help me in finding Commander
Parts? Any information will be appreciated. Thanks
Rich Ziesmer
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| Subject: | Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? |
Dallas air Salvage had two "B" model wrecks some time back 1/800/336-6399.
Jim Addington
N444BD
500A
----- Original Message -----
From: "tothetop" <zzztothetop@MSN.COM>
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2007 3:22 PM
Subject: Commander-List: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do????
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> I have just bought a 1969 Commander 500S{N88CB} that the main gear failed
> on during a hard landing. I bid on it and won it and now my wife is about
> to kill me. I was considering selling it in Arizona at its present
> location or maybe selling just half?? Also i will need some parts, one
> actuator on each main is broken, plus Misc other stuff. Who can help me in
> finding Commander Parts? Any information will be appreciated. Thanks
> Rich Ziesmer
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'091#96091
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| Subject: | Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? |
All the info you are giving me will prove to be helpful. When the gear failed it
slid about 100' on pavement and did wear a hole all the way through the skin
but that won't be bad to fix since the nose gear stayed down. The mains came
back hard and did some damage when that happened but nothing structural I hope.
Got to keep the old wife 'cause I would never find one to put up with as much
as she does, she will get over it I'm sure.
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| Subject: | Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? |
If it hit the fuselage near the baggage compartment be sure to check the
elevator and rudder cable tensions and look for damage around the pulley cluster.
Bill Leff
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| Subject: | Re: Need a Parts Manual for 690A |
Get it from the factory so it is up to date.
Bill Leff
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| Subject: | Re: 1969 Shrike 500S, What to do???? |
tothetop wrote:
> I have just bought a 1969 Commander 500S{N88CB} that the main gear failed on
during a hard landing. I bid on it and won it and now my wife is about to kill
me. I was considering selling it in Arizona at its present location or maybe
selling just half?? Also i will need some parts, one actuator on each main is
broken, plus Misc other stuff. Who can help me in finding Commander Parts? Any
information will be appreciated. Thanks
> Rich Ziesmer
Commander Services
Morris Kernick
Cell 321-403-8813
morkerni@aol.com
Andrew P Geraghty
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Andrew P Geraghty
Corona CA
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