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4. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (Barry Collman)
5. 03:09 PM - Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (N395V)
6. 03:21 PM - Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (inphelan)
7. 03:33 PM - Re: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (Robert S. Randazzo)
8. 03:41 PM - Re: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (CloudCraft@aol.com)
9. 04:32 PM - Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (inphelan)
10. 04:32 PM - Re: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (mike floyd)
11. 05:35 PM - Re: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (nico css)
12. 05:47 PM - Orenda Engine (nico css)
13. 06:02 PM - Re: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (Jim Addington)
14. 06:04 PM - Re: Orenda Engine (Jim Addington)
15. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... (BillLeff1@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
Barry:
"Much obliged" (Yank-ism thanks to Clint Eastwood). That settles the N685PE-where-abouts
issue for me.
Interesting job you have !
And thank you for the broker leads. Ignoring (for the moment) the good wisdom
imparted by several other forum members -- forget the Continental engines and
go with a 690 or equivalent -- I must continue to research the 685 possibilities,
including any re-engine programs which might have been available through
the years, before I go on to alternatives.
Again, your imformation, and insight, is much appreciated.
Nick Phelan
Your Model 685 was s/n 12059. After being N685PE, it became N685RB in May 1980.
Sadly though, it was damaged beyond repair at Southern Pines-Moore County,North
Carolina (NTSB report ATL89LA121) on April 5th 1989 and has been parted out by
Atlanta Air Salvage, Griffin-Spalding County Airport, Georgia.
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
Barry:
BTW I rumaged through your photo collection but didn't find any of s/n 12059.
Did you ever get a picture of that 685?
Nick Phelan
[quote="barry.collman(at)air-brit"]Hi Nick,
Your Model 685 was s/n 12059. After being N685PE, it became N685RB in May 1980.
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
In a message dated 20-Feb-07 07:00:47 Pacific Standard Time,
nickphelan@qwest.net writes:
I must continue to research the 685 possibilities, including any re-engine
programs which might have been available through the years, before I go on t
o
alternatives.
Nick,
I admire your devotion to the AC-685. If you have the money to match your
interest, take a look at this:
MR. RPM=AE Aero Commander FOR SALE
Enjoy!
Wing Commander Gordon
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Hi Nick,
Nope, I never managed to get a shot of that one.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
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Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 3:58 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
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[quote="CloudCraft(at)aol.com"]In a message dated 20-Feb-07 07:00:47 Pacific Standard
Time, nickphelan@qwest.net writes:
> I must continue to research the 685 possibilities, including any re-engine programs
which might have been available through the years, before I go on to alternatives.
Nick,
I admire your devotion to the AC-685. If you have the money to match your interest,
take a look at this:
MR. RPM? Aero Commander FOR SALE (http://www.mrrpm.com/)
Enjoy!
Wing Commander Gordon
> [b]
Keith,
What is the certification status of tht plane?
Is Orenda still making engines.
Too bad the whole concept didn't fly. Clearly seems it would have been superior
to the turbines.
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
www.excaliburaviation.com
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
Commander Gordon:
Many thanks. I think this would a tremendous aircraft but for two small issues:
(1) The need to carry non-flight-crew family member passengers, and (2) the
need to get insurance to carry those passengers at an annual rate less than the
acquisition cost of the 685 !
I wish these guys had had this mod way back when!
Nick Phelan
I admire your devotion to the AC-685. If you have the money to match your interest,
take a look at this:
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
Milt-
If they'd have certified them- I'd gladly have hung a set on 414C....
Rob
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 15:09
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
[quote="CloudCraft(at)aol.com"]In a message dated 20-Feb-07 07:00:47 Pacific
Standard Time, nickphelan@qwest.net writes:
> I must continue to research the 685 possibilities, including any re-engine
programs which might have been available through the years, before I go on
to alternatives.
Nick,
I admire your devotion to the AC-685. If you have the money to match your
interest, take a look at this:
MR. RPM? Aero Commander FOR SALE (http://www.mrrpm.com/)
Enjoy!
Wing Commander Gordon
> [b]
Keith,
What is the certification status of tht plane?
Is Orenda still making engines.
Too bad the whole concept didn't fly. Clearly seems it would have been
superior to the turbines.
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Milt
N395V
F1 Rocket
www.excaliburaviation.com
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
In a message dated 20-Feb-07 15:23:55 Pacific Standard Time,
nickphelan@qwest.net writes:
I think this would a tremendous aircraft but for two small issues: (1) The
need to carry non-flight-crew family member passengers, and (2) the need to get
insurance to carry those passengers at an annual rate less than the
acquisition cost of the 685 !
Oh! So now you want to be practical!???!!! ;-)
As to Milt's question about certification status and production of the
engines, I think Bill Leff -- who flew the first prototype -- and Tylor Hall, who
keeps track of Mr. RPM might know the current status. Gentlemen?
Google "Orenda Engine" and you'll find lots of information, though I don't
know how current. The engine did go on some Ag aircraft and there was an
ambitious King Air 90 re-engine program based on the Orenda V8 running parallel
with
the Commander program. (Mr.RPM won the derby and flew way before the King
Air did.)
Last time I checked, the King Air flew, but the fleet-wide re-engine rush
never happened.
Sadly, too, because this was a most viable Commander engine retrofit program
-- Mr. RPM told me it would eventually apply to the 680F series Commanders as
well as the 685 and his first go at this was the "Thunder Engine" which flew
upon a Turbo Commander, demonstrating the range of airframes for the liquid
cooled V8 mod.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
You're right! Lost my perspective there for a moment. Why not dump more money
into that great big hole-in-the-air called an aircraft !
BTW I will try to popst a coupla snaps of the aircraft since it is unlikely it
will be ever photographed again, what with it being scattered across North Carolina's
countryside, and all......
[2 pics attached]
Oh! So now you want to be practical!???!!! ;-)
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'381#96381
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/685cabin_833.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
The 685 and the tooling for the engines were sold by Dick MaCoon to a
company in Texas.
The company in Texas wants to use the engine in the Automotive racing scene.
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
I have a couple of pics and a video of the Orenda commander flying:
http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AeroCommanders/AeroCommanderOr
endaEngine/
Let me know if you have problems getting to the material.
Thanks
Nico
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of inphelan
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:32 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
You're right! Lost my perspective there for a moment. Why not dump more
money into that great big hole-in-the-air called an aircraft !
BTW I will try to popst a coupla snaps of the aircraft since it is unlikely
it will be ever photographed again, what with it being scattered across
North Carolina's countryside, and all......
[2 pics attached]
Oh! So now you want to be practical!???!!! ;-)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'381#96381
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/685cabin_833.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/685ramp_112.jpg
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The url below has been chopped off by the email message. Just copy and paste
the whole thing up to "engine/" into your browser's address.
Nico
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:35 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
I have a couple of pics and a video of the Orenda commander flying:
http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AeroCommanders/AeroCommanderOr
endaEngine/
Let me know if you have problems getting to the material.
Thanks
Nico
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of inphelan
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:32 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
You're right! Lost my perspective there for a moment. Why not dump more
money into that great big hole-in-the-air called an aircraft !
BTW I will try to popst a coupla snaps of the aircraft since it is unlikely
it will be ever photographed again, what with it being scattered across
North Carolina's countryside, and all......
[2 pics attached]
Oh! So now you want to be practical!???!!! ;-)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'381#96381
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/685cabin_833.jpg
http://forums.matronics.com//files/685ramp_112.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
Nico, I could not get it to open, here or copy and paste.
Jim Addington
N444BD
----- Original Message -----
From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
> <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>
> I have a couple of pics and a video of the Orenda commander flying:
> http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AeroCommanders/AeroCommanderOr
> endaEngine/
> Let me know if you have problems getting to the material.
> Thanks
> Nico
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of inphelan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:32 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
>
>
> You're right! Lost my perspective there for a moment. Why not dump more
> money into that great big hole-in-the-air called an aircraft !
>
> BTW I will try to popst a coupla snaps of the aircraft since it is
> unlikely
> it will be ever photographed again, what with it being scattered across
> North Carolina's countryside, and all......
>
> [2 pics attached]
>
>
> Oh! So now you want to be practical!???!!! ;-)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'381#96381
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/685cabin_833.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/685ramp_112.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Orenda Engine |
I still could not get it to open
Jim Addington
----- Original Message -----
From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:47 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Orenda Engine
> <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>
> The url below has been chopped off by the email message. Just copy and
> paste
> the whole thing up to "engine/" into your browser's address.
> Nico
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 5:35 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
>
> <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>
> I have a couple of pics and a video of the Orenda commander flying:
> http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AeroCommanders/AeroCommanderOr
> endaEngine/
> Let me know if you have problems getting to the material.
> Thanks
> Nico
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of inphelan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:32 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
>
>
> You're right! Lost my perspective there for a moment. Why not dump more
> money into that great big hole-in-the-air called an aircraft !
>
> BTW I will try to popst a coupla snaps of the aircraft since it is
> unlikely
> it will be ever photographed again, what with it being scattered across
> North Carolina's countryside, and all......
>
> [2 pics attached]
>
>
> Oh! So now you want to be practical!???!!! ;-)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p'381#96381
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/685cabin_833.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/685ramp_112.jpg
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
I heard that Dick MacCoon flew the 685 to Texas to start the program up
again.
Bill Leff
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The engine was certified by Orenda.
Bill Leff
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
nico(at)cybersuperstore.c wrote:
> I have a couple of pics and a video of the Orenda commander flying:
> http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AeroCommanders/AeroCommanderOr
> endaEngine/
> Let me know if you have problems getting to the material.
> Thanks
> Nico
>
>
>
> --
http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AeroCommanders/AeroCommanderOrendaengine/
this link might work
APG
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Corona CA
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AeroCommanders/AeroCommanderOrendaengine/Aero-Commander-320x240.WMV
nice video
APG
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Corona CA
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| Subject: | Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of.... |
Anyone have any confirmation of this?
I've got about 400hrs before I'll even start thinking about engine
replacements- but I'd swap the GTSIOs off if the right opportunity presented
itself. ;-)
Robert Randazzo
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Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 8:05 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
I heard that Dick MacCoon flew the 685 to Texas to start the program up
again.
Bill Leff
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| Subject: | RE: Orenda Engine |
I put a shortcut higher up in the hierarchy.
http://www.teletuition.org/documents/orendaengine.asp
Thanks
Nico
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Addington
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 6:02 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
<jtaddington@charter.net>
Nico, I could not get it to open, here or copy and paste.
Jim Addington
N444BD
----- Original Message -----
From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 7:35 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
> <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
>
> I have a couple of pics and a video of the Orenda commander flying:
>
http://www.teletuition.org/documents/Aviation/AeroCommanders/AeroCommanderOr
> endaEngine/
> Let me know if you have problems getting to the material.
> Thanks
> Nico
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of inphelan
> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2007 4:32 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander 685 s/n 12059 Lost track of....
>
>
> You're right! Lost my perspective there for a moment. Why not dump more
> money into that great big hole-in-the-air called an aircraft !
>
> BTW I will try to popst a coupla snaps of the aircraft since it is
> unlikely
> it will be ever photographed again, what with it being scattered across
> North Carolina's countryside, and all......
>
> [2 pics attached]
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> Oh! So now you want to be practical!???!!! ;-)
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