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| Subject: | Re: Orenda Rises Again |
Mason,
You ever coming out to NM any time soon?
Yes that is reasonable. The STC on any new engine will be a lot of
money.
Tylor Hall
On Apr 17, 2007, at 6:11 PM, MASON CHEVAILLIER wrote:
> th, the mr rpm conversion is still fairly competative. the IO-720
> @ 400hp per side and 34 gph is not bad. mason
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Tylor Hall
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
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> According to Lycoming's web site a tsio-540 J is 550 lbs with out
> prop. 660 all up with prop sounds about right.
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> http://www.centurion-engines.com/
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> Cirrus and Diamond have announced the 400 Centurion engine will be
> in their aircraft factory new.
> Look to Cessna for the next announcement in the C206 and their new
> aircraft.
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> Tylor Hall
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> On Apr 17, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Bruce Campbell wrote:
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>> It seems awfully heavy, about 660 lb all up. I don=92t know if this
>> includes the prop, but if it does, the empty weight gain on a 500
>> or 560 would be about 300-400lb. With the fuel savings it probably
>> would be about a 100-200lb reduction in payload.
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>> It would scream, though. >2000 fpm until you passed out from the
>> bends.
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>> Bruce
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>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
>> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of nico css
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:12 AM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
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>> I saw Thielert is planning a 350 hp diesel engine. That would be
>> something cool for the 500 series, don=92t you think?
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>> http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/2006/apr/diesel_skylane.html
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>> http://www.aflyer.com/atlantic_flyer.year/atlantic_flyer.oct%2006/
>> OCTpdf/page11.pdf
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>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
>> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:24 AM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
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>> They discussed a future v6 several times before they went belly up.
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>> I don=92t know what the plans were about the type of v6. There are
>> plenty of v6s in the auto market, but I do remember the GM 90
>> degree v6=92s (like the Buick 3.8 liter, which was a 75% slice of a
>> V8) were rough until GM put a six-throw crank in them. After that
>> they seem to have been OK. Presumably Orenda would do something
>> similar to the GM exercise.
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>> But that is all speculation.
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>> Bruce
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>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
>> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Moe - Ross Racing
>> Pistons
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:56 AM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
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>> Bruce,
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>> Do you have any information on the six cylinder? I was unaware of
>> the fact that Dick and his predecessors had this in mind.
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>> Just curious, as v-6 engines are usually problematic.
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>> Moe
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>> N680RR
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>> 680F(p)
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>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
>> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:30 AM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
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>> I personally suspect that the 500 series would require a six
>> cylinder version, which Orenda was going to produce as soon as the
>> 8 cylinder was making money.
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>> Bruce
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>> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-
>> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Owens
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:18 AM
>> To: commander-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again
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>> I will... BUT, my question is , do you think it would work on the
>> smaller 500 series airframe? The wing root being closer to the
>> fuselage might be the downer... Wonder what 600 hp per side would
>> do to a 7400 max gw airframe... Straight up???
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>> David Owens
>> Aerial Viewpoint
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>> AC-500A-Colemill
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