---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 04/18/07: 1 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 09:27 AM - Re: Orenda Rises Again (Tylor Hall) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:27:16 AM PST US From: Tylor Hall Subject: Re: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again Mason, You ever coming out to NM any time soon? Yes that is reasonable. The STC on any new engine will be a lot of money. Tylor Hall On Apr 17, 2007, at 6:11 PM, MASON CHEVAILLIER wrote: > th, the mr rpm conversion is still fairly competative. the IO-720 > @ 400hp per side and 34 gph is not bad. mason > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tylor Hall > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 3:48 PM > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again > > According to Lycoming's web site a tsio-540 J is 550 lbs with out > prop. 660 all up with prop sounds about right. > > http://www.centurion-engines.com/ > > Cirrus and Diamond have announced the 400 Centurion engine will be > in their aircraft factory new. > Look to Cessna for the next announcement in the C206 and their new > aircraft. > > Tylor Hall > > On Apr 17, 2007, at 12:28 PM, Bruce Campbell wrote: > >> It seems awfully heavy, about 660 lb all up. I don=92t know if this >> includes the prop, but if it does, the empty weight gain on a 500 >> or 560 would be about 300-400lb. With the fuel savings it probably >> would be about a 100-200lb reduction in payload. >> >> >> >> It would scream, though. >2000 fpm until you passed out from the >> bends. >> >> >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- >> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of nico css >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 11:12 AM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again >> >> >> >> I saw Thielert is planning a 350 hp diesel engine. That would be >> something cool for the 500 series, don=92t you think? >> >> >> >> http://www.planeandpilotmag.com/content/2006/apr/diesel_skylane.html >> >> http://www.aflyer.com/atlantic_flyer.year/atlantic_flyer.oct%2006/ >> OCTpdf/page11.pdf >> >> >> >> >> >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- >> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 10:24 AM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again >> >> >> >> They discussed a future v6 several times before they went belly up. >> >> >> >> I don=92t know what the plans were about the type of v6. There are >> plenty of v6s in the auto market, but I do remember the GM 90 >> degree v6=92s (like the Buick 3.8 liter, which was a 75% slice of a >> V8) were rough until GM put a six-throw crank in them. After that >> they seem to have been OK. Presumably Orenda would do something >> similar to the GM exercise. >> >> >> >> But that is all speculation. >> >> >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- >> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Moe - Ross Racing >> Pistons >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:56 AM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again >> >> >> >> Bruce, >> >> >> >> Do you have any information on the six cylinder? I was unaware of >> the fact that Dick and his predecessors had this in mind. >> >> >> >> Just curious, as v-6 engines are usually problematic. >> >> >> >> Moe >> >> N680RR >> >> 680F(p) >> >> >> >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- >> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Campbell >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:30 AM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: RE: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again >> >> >> >> I personally suspect that the 500 series would require a six >> cylinder version, which Orenda was going to produce as soon as the >> 8 cylinder was making money. >> >> >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- >> commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of David Owens >> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 8:18 AM >> To: commander-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Orenda Rises Again >> >> >> >> I will... BUT, my question is , do you think it would work on the >> smaller 500 series airframe? The wing root being closer to the >> fuselage might be the downer... Wonder what 600 hp per side would >> do to a 7400 max gw airframe... 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