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1. 04:43 AM - Re: Aux Hyd Pump (Barry Collman)
2. 05:44 AM - Thanks for the help (Ray Mansfield)
3. 06:47 AM - Re: Aux Hyd Pump (CloudCraft@aol.com)
4. 08:37 AM - Gary Tillman News story (Tylor Hall)
5. 09:06 AM - Re: Thanks for the help (Tylor Hall)
6. 10:29 AM - Re: Thanks for the help (Bill Bow)
7. 03:49 PM - Charles Lindbergh (CloudCraft@aol.com)
8. 05:18 PM - Re: Thanks for the help (mike floyd)
9. 07:03 PM - Re: Charles Lindbergh (AEROCOMAND@aol.com)
10. 07:12 PM - Re: Thanks for the help (Ray Mansfield)
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| Subject: | Re: Aux Hyd Pump |
Hi All,
I haven't seen any other comments about this posting, but this is
literally about the 50th time I've received it.
Anyone else had the same "problem"?
Best Regards,
Barry
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From: dfalik@sbcglobal.net
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 2:10 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Aux Hyd Pump
I have two old hyd. Pumps of the P-366-1(64650) variety that were
taken off and replaced with Pesco's. These never seem to last "long"
before needing overhaul/repair due to leaks. It seems that every year
(app. 300 hrs.) they need some type of attention. Is this normal or
just my misfortune?
Should I have the old ones (mfr. Date of 1965) overhauled and put on a
shelf? The plane is a 1970 500S.
Don
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MASON
CHEVAILLIER
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:10 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aux Hyd Pump
bb,overhaul mason
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From: Bill Bow
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 10:12 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Aux Hyd Pump
You do need to specify "overhaul" or "repair". They are different.
bilbo
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MASON
CHEVAILLIER
Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 8:21 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Aux Hyd Pump
kh, they also did one for me mason
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bow
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 5:57 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Aux Hyd Pump
These guys did my Pesco. http://www.aircraftaccessoriesofok.com
bilbo
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
KenWHyde@aol.com
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2007 8:53 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Commander-List: Aux Hyd Pump
Anyone know who does the overhaul on the P-366-1 Aux Hyd Pump
(64650) for the 500S???
Thanks,
Ken Hyde
N47AC
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| Subject: | Thanks for the help |
Hello Everyone,
I recently posted a message seeking help with an engine RPM problem
with the Aero Commander 680 FLP that I fly. I was having problems with
the engine RPM dropping 100, 200, 300 or so RPM particularly during
climb, in a random fashion. I had about six different replies and
suggestions as to the problem. Prior to finding the problem maintenance
had checked out some of the suggestions to no avail; prop governor and
magneto were #1 suspect but were not the problem.
Well, the problem turned out to be a crack in the upper deck air
line. That particular line had been removed and the rubber hose
portions had been replaced during the annual. Evidently the maintenance
guy didn't look at the line close enough or the line may not have been
completely removed and the crack couldn't be seen. Anyway, the crack
was repaired and the engine hasn't blinked since.
Thanks to everyone for the ideas. I relayed all of the comments to
our maintenance people. They appreciated all the ideas as for a while
we were really baffled.
Ray Mansfield
N91ES
Aero Commander 680 FLP
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| Subject: | Re: Aux Hyd Pump |
In a message dated 21-May-07 04:45:49 Pacific Daylight Time,
barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
I haven't seen any other comments about this posting, but this is literally
about the 50th time I've received it.
Anyone else had the same "problem"?
Sir Barry,
Since you bring it up ... I was wondering if it's the pump that's leaking, or
is it the Garlock seal where the pump attaches?
In my experience, it was always the seal that leaked and that was due to low
aircraft utilization and the seal drying, or, the seal being damaged during
installation.
If the pump is leaking, where does it leak?
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Gary Tillman News story |
TCFG,
There is a news article on Gary Tillman on www.aero-news.net this am.
Gary was a much loved member of the list and died flying his 195 with
his daughter.
Tylor Hall
tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks for the help |
Ray,
Those upper deck lines are small and often overlooked on the Rajay
Turbo conversions, both 8 cylinder and 6 cylinder. A little crack
will cause funny problems.
The upper deck lines do not exist on Supercharger or normally
aspirated aircraft.
Happy flying.
Tylor Hall
On May 21, 2007, at 6:43 AM, Ray Mansfield wrote:
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I recently posted a message seeking help with an engine RPM
> problem with the Aero Commander 680 FLP that I fly. I was having
> problems with the engine RPM dropping 100, 200, 300 or so RPM
> particularly during climb, in a random fashion. I had about six
> different replies and suggestions as to the problem. Prior to
> finding the problem maintenance had checked out some of the
> suggestions to no avail; prop governor and magneto were #1 suspect
> but were not the problem.
>
> Well, the problem turned out to be a crack in the upper deck
> air line. That particular line had been removed and the rubber
> hose portions had been replaced during the annual. Evidently the
> maintenance guy didn't look at the line close enough or the line
> may not have been completely removed and the crack couldn't be
> seen. Anyway, the crack was repaired and the engine hasn't blinked
> since.
>
> Thanks to everyone for the ideas. I relayed all of the
> comments to our maintenance people. They appreciated all the ideas
> as for a while we were really baffled.
>
> Ray Mansfield
> N91ES
> Aero Commander 680 FLP
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Tylor Hall
tylor.hall@sbcglobal.net
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| Subject: | Thanks for the help |
I'll bet it was a pricey crack too.
bilbo
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray
Mansfield
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:44 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Thanks for the help
Hello Everyone,
I recently posted a message seeking help with an engine RPM problem with
the Aero Commander 680 FLP that I fly. I was having problems with the
engine RPM dropping 100, 200, 300 or so RPM particularly during climb, in a
random fashion. I had about six different replies and suggestions as to the
problem. Prior to finding the problem maintenance had checked out some of
the suggestions to no avail; prop governor and magneto were #1 suspect but
were not the problem.
Well, the problem turned out to be a crack in the upper deck air line.
That particular line had been removed and the rubber hose portions had been
replaced during the annual. Evidently the maintenance guy didn't look at
the line close enough or the line may not have been completely removed and
the crack couldn't be seen. Anyway, the crack was repaired and the engine
hasn't blinked since.
Thanks to everyone for the ideas. I relayed all of the comments to our
maintenance people. They appreciated all the ideas as for a while we were
really baffled.
Ray Mansfield
N91ES
Aero Commander 680 FLP
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| Subject: | Charles Lindbergh |
Gentlemen,
While not Commander-specific, let's stand in appreciation that it was 80
years ago today the Charles Lindbergh completed his Trans-Atlantic flight.
Godspeed, Mr. Lindbergh! And in this age of Flight Management Systems and
GPS, let's keep in mind that a watch, a compass and an airspeed indicator can
get you somewhere!
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Thanks for the help |
With MR RPM's blessing we have fabricated ours from 302 seamless tubing. I
would provide a set of drawings if you would like.
Mike Floyd
Northern Commanders LLC
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| Subject: | Re: Charles Lindbergh |
AMEN...
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| Subject: | Re: Thanks for the help |
Yes, if you consider all the things we did prior to finding the crack.
RM
----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Bow
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 12:28 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Thanks for the help
I'll bet it was a pricey crack too.
bilbo
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray
Mansfield
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:44 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Commander-List: Thanks for the help
Hello Everyone,
I recently posted a message seeking help with an engine RPM
problem with the Aero Commander 680 FLP that I fly. I was having
problems with the engine RPM dropping 100, 200, 300 or so RPM
particularly during climb, in a random fashion. I had about six
different replies and suggestions as to the problem. Prior to finding
the problem maintenance had checked out some of the suggestions to no
avail; prop governor and magneto were #1 suspect but were not the
problem.
Well, the problem turned out to be a crack in the upper deck air
line. That particular line had been removed and the rubber hose
portions had been replaced during the annual. Evidently the maintenance
guy didn't look at the line close enough or the line may not have been
completely removed and the crack couldn't be seen. Anyway, the crack
was repaired and the engine hasn't blinked since.
Thanks to everyone for the ideas. I relayed all of the comments
to our maintenance people. They appreciated all the ideas as for a
while we were really baffled.
Ray Mansfield
N91ES
Aero Commander 680 FLP
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