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Hi folks,
I'm new to the list, and I hope I understand how it works, so if I
mess up, please let me know.
We're shopping for a Commander and need advise as to what is the best
one. Our goal it to use it for low level aerial surveillance to look
over some land we are interested in. The trips will be in the 300 to
600nm range and perhaps an hour or two flying over the land, looking
it over. We will do these trips in VFR weather, so deice is not an
issue, pressure not necessary and speed really isn't a big factor.
However, would like a reasonable well equipped plane, preferably with
air.
The Shrike seems like a good choice, but wondering what others I
should be considering. The 560s with the geared, but not supercharged
engines have been mentioned as good planes.
Thoughts?
Larry Olson
St. Pete
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Hi Larry,
Welcome to the list! I hope you'll find it a great resource. As far as which
model might do you best, I have a 500B so I'm partial, but the B-model has
some great advantages:
1) Direct-drive engines (fuel efficient, can fly them fairly ham-fisted
without damaging them)
2) Lycoming IO-540 powered (proven design that's pretty rugged)
3) No spar AD that tends to affect the Shrikes
4) Generally excellent useful loads (mine is 2,238 lbs.!)
Mine is turbocharged & deiced, but that's obviously not a factor for you
although I think they're great options if you live in mountainous country
like I do. These airplanes are perfect for 3-600NM trips. Comfortable,
roomy, fast enough (mine's good for ~175 kts. unless I go up above 12,000
where I can get ~190 kts. with the turbos) and great for sightseeing, with
the wing above you.
One option I LOVE about mine is the pilot door...especially if you're
carrying passengers a lot. Also my dispatch reliability has been near
100%....I've missed only 2 trips in 8 years of ownership and they were both
due to annuals falling at the wrong time.
Hope this helps,
/John
----- Original Message -----
From: <asgroup@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Commander-List: New to list
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm new to the list, and I hope I understand how it works, so if I mess
> up, please let me know.
>
> We're shopping for a Commander and need advise as to what is the best
> one. Our goal it to use it for low level aerial surveillance to look over
> some land we are interested in. The trips will be in the 300 to 600nm
> range and perhaps an hour or two flying over the land, looking it over.
> We will do these trips in VFR weather, so deice is not an issue, pressure
> not necessary and speed really isn't a big factor. However, would like a
> reasonable well equipped plane, preferably with air.
>
> The Shrike seems like a good choice, but wondering what others I should
> be considering. The 560s with the geared, but not supercharged engines
> have been mentioned as good planes.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Larry Olson
> St. Pete
>
>
> __________ NOD32 2297 (20070530) Information __________
>
>
> __________ NOD32 2297 (20070530) Information __________
>
>
>
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Larry,
I'm going to be in St. Pete from Sunday June 3 through Friday June 8 for
vacation on Treasure Island. I have been flying a Shrike for 3 years
(800 hours) and wouldn't mind sharing with you. It will be parked at
Albert-Whitted airport while we are on Treasure Island.
Cell number is 517 881 8959 if you want to talk.
Don (based in Michigan)
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Vormbaum
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:18 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: New to list
<john@vormbaum.com>
Hi Larry,
Welcome to the list! I hope you'll find it a great resource. As far as
which
model might do you best, I have a 500B so I'm partial, but the B-model
has
some great advantages:
1) Direct-drive engines (fuel efficient, can fly them fairly ham-fisted
without damaging them)
2) Lycoming IO-540 powered (proven design that's pretty rugged)
3) No spar AD that tends to affect the Shrikes
4) Generally excellent useful loads (mine is 2,238 lbs.!)
Mine is turbocharged & deiced, but that's obviously not a factor for you
although I think they're great options if you live in mountainous
country
like I do. These airplanes are perfect for 3-600NM trips. Comfortable,
roomy, fast enough (mine's good for ~175 kts. unless I go up above
12,000
where I can get ~190 kts. with the turbos) and great for sightseeing,
with
the wing above you.
One option I LOVE about mine is the pilot door...especially if you're
carrying passengers a lot. Also my dispatch reliability has been near
100%....I've missed only 2 trips in 8 years of ownership and they were
both
due to annuals falling at the wrong time.
Hope this helps,
/John
----- Original Message -----
From: <asgroup@tampabay.rr.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:18 PM
Subject: Commander-List: New to list
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm new to the list, and I hope I understand how it works, so if I
mess
> up, please let me know.
>
> We're shopping for a Commander and need advise as to what is the best
> one. Our goal it to use it for low level aerial surveillance to look
over
> some land we are interested in. The trips will be in the 300 to 600nm
> range and perhaps an hour or two flying over the land, looking it
over.
> We will do these trips in VFR weather, so deice is not an issue,
pressure
> not necessary and speed really isn't a big factor. However, would
like a
> reasonable well equipped plane, preferably with air.
>
> The Shrike seems like a good choice, but wondering what others I
should
> be considering. The 560s with the geared, but not supercharged
engines
> have been mentioned as good planes.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Larry Olson
> St. Pete
>
>
> __________ NOD32 2297 (20070530) Information __________
>
>
> __________ NOD32 2297 (20070530) Information __________
>
>
>
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