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Subject: | Re: Serial Number plates |
Hi Nico,
Thanks for that. Hopefully during your next visit there, you'll have
time to hunt a few Commanders down!
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: nico css
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:35 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Serial Number plates
Barry,
I am not sure if I already showed these pictures but this is 680F
rotting away in South Africa at Wonderboom Airport, Pretoria. I was in
Pretoria a week ago but didn't have an opportunity to see whether the
Commanders that were on that airport are still there. You can back up to
the parent directory and see other Commanders too. Some of the pictures
of the plate didn't come out well.
http://www.teletuition.org/documents/aviation/AeroCommanders/ZS-IMY/
Nico
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2007 1:24 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Commander-List: Serial Number plates
Hi Guys,
I'd like to get a better handle on exactly what is presented in the
"Manufacturer's Serial No." portion of the Commander's s/n plate.
It seems that most of them do not include the Model, but the 680 &
680F seem to do so.
For instance, I have examples of:
a Model 680, which shows "680-317-12"
a Model 680FLP, which shows "680FLP-1475-4"
but ......
a Model 500B, which shows "1502-178"
a Model 680W, which shows "1849-45"
Now I know why the Wing Commander uses the signature 'tag'; "Life is
not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere."
So, if you have a few minutes to spare next time you're with your
Commander, would you be kind enough to take a close-up shot of your
plate for me? Of course, if you get the chance to photograph any others
you find in your travels, then that'll be a big bonus!
I will be checking them myself more carefully in future, of course.
Thanks!
Best Regards,
Barry
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Subject: | Re: Serial Number plates |
Hi Richard,
I had forgotten that you had to get a new plate. It will be interesting
to see what your new one says, just to compare it with other 680E's.
Very Best regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard & Jacqui Thompson
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 7:41 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Serial Number plates
Barry Old Chap,
Could not tell you what mine is like. Will look on Monday and take a
photo for you. Remember that this is not the original but a copy
supplied by Twin Commander. I believe that they had the original style
copied for me. Just one of the many times they have helped me out in the
past. Geoffrey Pence is THE MAN.
One day when its finished and I am not digging aeroplanes that belong
to me out of swamps I will get it over to the states.
Cheers
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Saturday, 9 June 2007 9:54 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Serial Number plates
Hi Richard,
Absolutely correct!
What I'm trying to ascertain though is the engraving that is inscribed
in the 'boxed' portion titled "Manufacturer's Serial No.".
It seems that for some Models the factory included the Model in that
portion of the plate and other Models they didn't. I'm just trying to
ascertain which Models used, for example (using a fictitious Commander!)
"680-400-50" and which used simply "400-50".
What does your 680E show?
It will, of course, have "680E" in the "Manufacturer's Model" section
at the top, but what is engraved in the "Manufacturer's Serial No."
section?
"680E-851-73"
or ..
"851-73"
Or, will I be able to check it myself at Fredericksburg? ;-)
Sincere Best Regards
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard & Jacqui Thompson
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2007 12:18 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Serial Number plates
Sir Barry,
I believe that the second number after the model number was the
actual serial number of the airframe. The last number was the number of
airframes built of that particular model.
So we would have 680 model with the chronological serial number 317
and it would be the 12th 680 built. Later I believe that the
manufacturers, Probably Rockwell dropped putting the model number in as
part of the serial number. Thus we would know from the data plate that
it was a model 500B, then the serial number would tell us that
chronologically it was airframe number 1502 and would have been the 12th
500B built.
I might have it all wrong though.
See you in Texas.
Regards
Richard
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Saturday, 9 June 2007 6:24 AM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Commander-List: Serial Number plates
Hi Guys,
I'd like to get a better handle on exactly what is presented in the
"Manufacturer's Serial No." portion of the Commander's s/n plate.
It seems that most of them do not include the Model, but the 680 &
680F seem to do so.
For instance, I have examples of:
a Model 680, which shows "680-317-12"
a Model 680FLP, which shows "680FLP-1475-4"
but ......
a Model 500B, which shows "1502-178"
a Model 680W, which shows "1849-45"
Now I know why the Wing Commander uses the signature 'tag'; "Life is
not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere."
So, if you have a few minutes to spare next time you're with your
Commander, would you be kind enough to take a close-up shot of your
plate for me? Of course, if you get the chance to photograph any others
you find in your travels, then that'll be a big bonus!
I will be checking them myself more carefully in future, of course.
Thanks!
Best Regards,
Barry
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