---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 06/10/07: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:56 PM - Any Seneca experts in the crowd (N395V) 2. 04:10 PM - Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (Barry Collman) 3. 04:30 PM - Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (Richard & Jacqui Thompson) 4. 05:44 PM - Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (N395V) 5. 06:23 PM - Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (nico css) 6. 07:45 PM - Re: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (Bill Bow) 7. 09:16 PM - Re: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (Don Girod) 8. 09:24 PM - Re: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (nico css) 9. 09:41 PM - Re: STC for new props (YOURTCFG@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:08 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd From: "N395V" Any Seneca experts out there??????? I do not see many Seneca IVs for sale. What kind of price range should they be in. Anything especially bad about the IVs vs 3s or 5s? -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117658#117658 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:17 PM PST US From: "Barry Collman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd Seneca? That's a Piper aircraft, ain't it? Nobody would keep one of those long enough to get an "expert" tag, would they ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "N395V" Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:55 PM Subject: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd | | Any Seneca experts out there??????? | | | I do not see many Seneca IVs for sale. What kind of price range should they be in. Anything especially bad about the IVs vs 3s or 5s? | | -------- | Milt | 2003 F1 Rocket | 2006 Radial Rocket| | | Read this topic online here: | | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117658#117658 | | | | | | ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 04:30:04 PM PST US From: "Richard & Jacqui Thompson" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd Oh Barry, Yeah of little faith. Mr Pipers contribution to aviation is producing aeroplanes that the sole reason for the rudder pedals is for somewhere to rest your feet. (excluding the TAILDRAGGERS). Seneca 3,4 and 5s are fun little airplanes to fly. The early 1 + 2s are really on the gutless side. I think for Milt they would probably be a single seater (Ha Ha). Hey Milt are you going to the flyin? Cheers Richard -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Monday, 11 June 2007 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd Seneca? That's a Piper aircraft, ain't it? Nobody would keep one of those long enough to get an "expert" tag, would they ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "N395V" < airboss@excaliburaviation.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:55 PM Subject: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd airboss@excaliburaviation.com> | | Any Seneca experts out there??????? | | | I do not see many Seneca IVs for sale. What kind of price range should they be in. Anything especially bad about the IVs vs 3s or 5s? | | -------- | Milt | 2003 F1 Rocket | 2006 Radial Rocket| | | Read this topic online here: | | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117658#117658 | | | | ========== | Commander-List browse | Archive and much href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matron ic s.com/Navigator?Commander-List | ========== | bsp; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com | =========== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:18 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd From: "N395V" > are you going to the flyin? > I had been planning on it but I crashed 2 weeks ago [Embarassed] and at the moment without a plane. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117673#117673 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:23:53 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd I have about 700 hrs on a Seneca 2 and loved every minute of it, though I cannot claim to be an expert. It's very forgiving and after the lame Seneca 1, it was a blast to fly. Then I had a ride in a III and was rather disappointed in its performance, perhaps because the 2 had two-blade props while the 3 had 3-blade props. I don't know whether I was just prejudiced. Probably. The Seneca 1 is a disaster. Piper didn't learn from the Apache. If I ever get into a position to buy a Commander again, I would opt for the Shrike with turbo-normalized engines, or an A with Colemills, mostly because of the experience I had with the Seneca. Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard & Jacqui Thompson Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 4:29 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd Oh Barry, Yeah of little faith. Mr Pipers contribution to aviation is producing aeroplanes that the sole reason for the rudder pedals is for somewhere to rest your feet. (excluding the TAILDRAGGERS). Seneca 3,4 and 5s are fun little airplanes to fly. The early 1 + 2s are really on the gutless side. I think for Milt they would probably be a single seater (Ha Ha). Hey Milt are you going to the flyin? Cheers Richard -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Monday, 11 June 2007 9:09 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd Seneca? That's a Piper aircraft, ain't it? Nobody would keep one of those long enough to get an "expert" tag, would they ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "N395V" < airboss@excaliburaviation.com> Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 11:55 PM Subject: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd airboss@excaliburaviation.com> | | Any Seneca experts out there??????? | | | I do not see many Seneca IVs for sale. What kind of price range should they be in. Anything especially bad about the IVs vs 3s or 5s? | | -------- | Milt | 2003 F1 Rocket | 2006 Radial Rocket| | | Read this topic online here: | | http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117658#117658 | | | | ========== | Commander-List browse | Archive and much href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Commander-List | ========== | bsp; available via href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com | =========== ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:42 PM PST US From: "Bill Bow" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd No. I've got nothing to go in but a Yukon. What happened? Did you wreck the new radial rocket? bb -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd > are you going to the flyin? > I had been planning on it but I crashed 2 weeks ago [Embarassed] and at the moment without a plane. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117673#117673 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:16:17 PM PST US From: "Don Girod" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd I had been planning on it but I crashed 2 weeks ago [Embarassed] and at the moment without a plane. You know Milt, Orvile & Wilber said, "Some days the air has NO lift". It is my thoughts that on those days, one should only taxi. Glad you are OK. Don ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:24:35 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd Sorry to hear about that, Milt. Are you OK? What happened? -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Bow Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 7:46 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd No. I've got nothing to go in but a Yukon. What happened? Did you wreck the new radial rocket? bb -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd > are you going to the flyin? > I had been planning on it but I crashed 2 weeks ago [Embarassed] and at the moment without a plane. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117673#117673 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:31 PM PST US From: YOURTCFG@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: STC for new props In a message dated 6/8/2007 5:31:23 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bkirkwoo@elp.rr.com writes: I am due for the prop AD on my Commander 560E and would like to know information about the STC for changing the props. I would like as much information as possible, and in particular, the price, part numbers for the props, part numbers for the new spinners, etc. Thanks. HELLO The STC will allow you to install a pair of Hartzell HC B3Z/10151 propellers on your 560E. These are found on the 340HP version of the Beech Twin Bonanza and the early Queen Airs. They require the larger spinner used with electric or alcohol de-ice systems. Contact me at _YOURTCFG@AOL.com_ (mailto:YOURTCFG@AOL.com) Or call 360-903-6901 (I talk faster than I type) and I will fill you in. 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