---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 06/11/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:54 AM - Bad Day (steve) 2. 06:07 AM - Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (N395V) 3. 07:09 AM - Re: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (cloudcraft@aol.com) 4. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (John Vormbaum) 5. 02:41 PM - Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd (Tom Fisher) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:24 AM PST US From: "steve" Subject: Commander-List: Bad Day See article from Sydney Herald about an Commander having a bad day. Seems things were falling apart. Window falls from plane, misses footballers * * Email * Print * Normal font * Large font June 11, 2007 - 9:10PM Advertisement Advertisement A window that blew out of a light aircraft plunged about 1000 metres and narrowly missed soccer players on a ground in Melbourne's north today. The startled players watched anxiously as the heavy window slammed harmlessly into a patch of grass near the oval at Bundoora, just after 2pm (AEST). The emergency window, weighing several kilograms, fell off the veteran six-seater aircraft shortly after it took off from Essendon Airport, said Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) spokesman Peter Gibson. Mr Gibson said the aircraft - a Rockwell Aero Commander last manufactured in the 1970s - was flying at between 2000 and 3000ft and the pilot was able to turn back and land safely at Essendon Airport. He said the plane had not been in any danger but "obviously you don't want parts falling off an aircraft". "Apart from the risk to the aircraft, there's also a risk to people on the ground," Mr Gibson said. "You wouldn't want to be near it (when it fell). "Obviously at that altitude there is plenty of oxygen to breathe and you wouldn't be sucked out. It would be very noisy, but the plane wasn't in any danger." CASA and the Australian Transport Safety Bureau will investigate. Mr Gibson did not know how many people were on board the plane, where it was headed, or if it was operating privately or on charter. Mr Gibson said it was quite rare for a part to break off an aircraft in flight. "Over the last eight years I can recall two to three occasions where a door or window has fallen out, so it does happen," he added. Steve G ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:07:21 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd From: "N395V" nico(at)cybersuperstore.c wrote: > Sorry to hear about that, Milt. Are you OK? What happened? > > -- Engine lost most of its power didn't have enough to sustain flight. Managed to plunk it down on a grass field. Tore up the landing gear, prop strike and supercharger sucked up a bunch of dirt and debris that toasted the engine. It was the Radial. Looks about 8-9 months of repair work and waiting on a new engine and prop. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117769#117769 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:09:46 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd From: cloudcraft@aol.com Nice plunking, Milt.? You're still here to contribute to the email net!? That's the part I like. Wing Commander Gordon -----Original Message----- From: N395V Sent: Mon, 11 Jun 2007 6:06 am Subject: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd nico(at)cybersuperstore.c wrote: > Sorry to hear about that, Milt. Are you OK? What happened? > > -- Engine lost most of its power didn't have enough to sustain flight. Managed to plunk it down on a grass field. Tore up the landing gear, prop strike and supercharger sucked up a bunch of dirt and debris that toasted the engine. It was the Radial. Looks about 8-9 months of repair work and waiting on a new engine and prop. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117769#117769 ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:30 AM PST US From: "John Vormbaum" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd Milt, Glad you're OK! Sounds like you did a fine piece of flying to limit the damage to what you mention below. /John ----- Original Message ----- From: "N395V" Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 6:06 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: Any Seneca experts in the crowd > > > > nico(at)cybersuperstore.c wrote: >> Sorry to hear about that, Milt. Are you OK? What happened? >> >> -- > > > Engine lost most of its power didn't have enough to sustain flight. > > Managed to plunk it down on a grass field. Tore up the landing gear, prop > strike and supercharger sucked up a bunch of dirt and debris that toasted > the engine. It was the Radial. Looks about 8-9 months of repair work and > waiting on a new engine and prop. > > -------- > Milt > 2003 F1 Rocket > 2006 Radial Rocket > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117769#117769 > > > __________ NOD32 2321 (20070610) Information __________ > > > __________ NOD32 2321 (20070610) Information __________ > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:32 PM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd I bought my first Commander so I would not have to fly the local flying club's Senecas. Tom F. C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) ----- Original Message ----- From: "N395V" Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2007 2:55 PM Subject: Commander-List: Any Seneca experts in the crowd > > > Any Seneca experts out there??????? > > > I do not see many Seneca IVs for sale. What kind of price range should > they be in. Anything especially bad about the IVs vs 3s or 5s? > > -------- > Milt > 2003 F1 Rocket > 2006 Radial Rocket > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=117658#117658 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.