Commander-List Digest Archive

Thu 06/14/07


Total Messages Posted: 27



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:50 AM - Re: Fw: El Sid Interior (Steve)
     2. 04:58 AM - Re: Fw: El Sid Interior (N395V)
     3. 07:03 AM - Re: Fw: El Sid Interior (nico css)
     4. 07:04 AM - ACs parting out (steve)
     5. 07:30 AM - Parting out (steve)
     6. 07:38 AM - Re: Parting out (Barry Collman)
     7. 07:45 AM - Re: Re: Fw: El Sid Interior (David Owens)
     8. 07:51 AM - Re: Re: Fw: El Sid Interior (Barry Collman)
     9. 08:13 AM - Re: Re: Fw: El Sid Interior (David Owens)
    10. 08:41 AM - N14AV history (Barry Collman)
    11. 08:45 AM - Re: Parting out (Don Girod)
    12. 09:17 AM - Re: Parting out (Barry Collman)
    13. 10:03 AM - Re: N14AV history (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
    14. 10:14 AM - Re: N14AV history (Barry Collman)
    15. 11:54 AM - Google Commander Flight (Steve at Col-East)
    16. 12:10 PM - Re: Parting out (Don Girod)
    17. 12:18 PM - Re: Google Commander Flight (BertBerry1@aol.com)
    18. 12:45 PM - Re: Parting out (Barry Collman)
    19. 12:59 PM - Re: Google Commander Flight (steve)
    20. 01:18 PM - Re: Google Commander Flight (Steve at Col-East)
    21. 02:13 PM - Call to check (Barry Collman)
    22. 02:30 PM - Re: N14AV history (David Owens)
    23. 02:40 PM - Re: N14AV history (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
    24. 07:23 PM - Re: Call to check (Deneal Schilmeister)
    25. 07:37 PM - Re: Call to check (Don Girod)
    26. 09:15 PM - Re: Google Commander Flight (Robert S. Randazzo)
    27. 09:50 PM - Re: Google Commander Flight (Bill Bow)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:50:12 AM PST US
    From: "Steve" <steve2@sover.net>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior
    The same pattern repeating over and over. I think it may be attempting to communicate with us. Perhaps a sign of intelligent life? ----- Original Message ----- From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:18 AM Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: El Sid Interior > -----------------------------1181748763-- > > >


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    Time: 04:58:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior
    From: "N395V" <airboss@excaliburaviation.com>
    ????????????????????WTF? -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=118382#118382


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    Time: 07:03:05 AM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: Fwd: El Sid Interior
    Quite possible. However, it's perhaps too early to tell because it's just static that's coming over. Do you have your ISC's (inter-stellar confromigator) squelch turned up all the way? -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:48 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fwd: El Sid Interior The same pattern repeating over and over. I think it may be attempting to communicate with us. Perhaps a sign of intelligent life? ----- Original Message ----- From: <YOURTCFG@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 1:18 AM Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: El Sid Interior > -----------------------------1181748763-- > > >


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    Time: 07:04:24 AM PST US
    From: "steve" <steveg@nternet.com>
    Subject: ACs parting out
    Barry, Thought you might find this link to a salvage yard closeout. Appears they have a few AeroCommanders parting out. I have emailed the owner for N numbers but have no reply as of yet so you might try also before they are lost forever history wise. http://www.earleaircraft.com <http://www.earleaircraft.com/> Regards, Steve Gilson


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    Time: 07:30:32 AM PST US
    From: "steve" <steveg@nternet.com>
    Subject: Parting out
    Barry, I just spoke with Norman Earle of Earle Aircraft (re: earlier email). Exciting news. He saved almost all the data plates and even has more, even many log books. Even parted out some in the Bahamas. Said he thinks he parted out one there that was Serial #3, a straight 520 and even has that plate along with tons of pictures of many of them. I told him about your efforts and he said by all means email him and he will provide all information he can for your efforts. His phone number is Norman Earle at 386-689-0244, email is earleac@aol.com . Regards, Steve Gilson


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    Time: 07:38:14 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Parting out
    Hi Steve, Sincere and grateful thanks! I seem to recall that I spoke to or contacted Earle Aircraft at least 12 years ago now and got details of the Commanders they were parting out. However, later on I'll check what they show on their Website (http://www.earleaircraft.com:80/) and compare that to what I have on my database. In any event, I'll contact Norman Earle anyway. Never does any harm to introduce myself and establish a good contact. Thanks again Steve! Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: steve To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: Commander-List: Parting out Barry, I just spoke with Norman Earle of Earle Aircraft (re: earlier email). Exciting news. He saved almost all the data plates and even has more, even many log books. Even parted out some in the Bahamas. Said he thinks he parted out one there that was Serial #3, a straight 520 and even has that plate along with tons of pictures of many of them. I told him about your efforts and he said by all means email him and he will provide all information he can for your efforts. His phone number is Norman Earle at 386-689-0244, email is earleac@aol.com . Regards, Steve Gilson


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    Time: 07:45:36 AM PST US
    From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior
    Whats this anyway?? Some kind of secret code??? :) David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill


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    Time: 07:51:22 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior
    Hi David, Yes, it is ! Haven't you been given the Code Book? Send me $150 and I'll get one in the post ;-) On a serious note, have I ever sent you the complete history, as I know it, of N14AV? If not, let me know and I'll email you an Excel .xls file. Best Regards, Barry Collman UK CommanderLand Rep. High Wycombe, England "Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space" ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 3:44 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com> | | Whats this anyway?? Some kind of secret code??? :) | | | | | David Owens | Aerial Viewpoint | N14AV | AC-500A-Colemill | | | |


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    Time: 08:13:57 AM PST US
    From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior
    Sooooo Cool... I dont have any info in that area, other than the person we bought it from that did not make it after an accident in a 337... (his camera operator did make it). Before that I believe 14av belonged to the state of N. Carolina... Nothing before that. Thank you in advance for some really cool info. (We do have all the books, but thats allot of reading, and wading through) David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill


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    Time: 08:41:28 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: N14AV history
    Hi David, An .xls file is attached, showing the history of s/n 914-22. The data has been gleaned from paperwork filed at the FAA and factory records held by Twin Commander. If there's anything, anything at all, that you can add, or correct, then please do let me know. One question, when the RC-10 camera was installed, was it accomplished under an STC? I presume it wasn't quoted on the Form 337. Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: David Owens To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior Sooooo Cool... I dont have any info in that area, other than the person we bought it from that did not make it after an accident in a 337... (his camera operator did make it). Before that I believe 14av belonged to the state of N. Carolina... Nothing before that. Thank you in advance for some really cool info. (We do have all the books, but thats allot of reading, and wading through) David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill


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    Time: 08:45:43 AM PST US
    From: "Don Girod" <dongirod@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Parting out
    Barry; Does your records show that N2707B, has JimBob's STC and new props on it? Anyway, Harry put them on last Dec. '06. Just for your records. Don


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    Time: 09:17:09 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Parting out
    Hi Don, No, I didn't know that, so thanks for letting me know. I presume the props were installed under Jim's STC SA01105SE. Were they the HC-B3Z20-2A/10151(B)-8(R) or the HC-93Z20-2C/10151(B)-8(R). And, which 'bits' in brackets, if any, were applicable? If a Form 337 was sent to the FAA, I can check the full date the installation was signed-off as. Sincere Best regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Girod To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Parting out Barry; Does your records show that N2707B, has JimBob's STC and new props on it? Anyway, Harry put them on last Dec. '06. Just for your records. Don


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    Time: 10:03:05 AM PST US
    From: MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala@MSN.COM>
    Subject: N14AV history
    FYI, anyone looking for a factory camera port, gary@ commander aero has the one we removed from 2001M. mason From: barry.collman@air-britain.co.ukTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubjec t: Commander-List: N14AV historyDate: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:40:01 +0100 Hi David, An .xls file is attached, showing the history of s/n 914-22. The data has been gleaned from paperwork filed at the FAA and factory recor ds held by Twin Commander. If there's anything, anything at all, that you can add, or correct, then pl ease do let me know. One question, when the RC-10 camera was installed, was it accomplished unde r an STC? I presume it wasn't quoted on the Form 337. Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: David Owens Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior Sooooo Cool... I dont have any info in that area, other than the person we bought it from that did not make it after an accident in a 337... (his came ra operator did make it). Before that I believe 14av belonged to the state of N. Carolina... Nothing before that. Thank you in advance for some really cool info. (We do have all the books, but thats allot of reading, and wadi ng through) David OwensAerial ViewpointN14AVAC-500A-Colemill href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 10:14:10 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: N14AV history
    Hi Mason, That's interesting, as I didn't know that 680F(P) s/n 1208-109 had a camera installation! If you can help with all, or any, of the following, I'll be most grateful: 1. When was it installed? 2. What STC was used (or Factory Drawing)? 3. What Make & Model Camera was it? I didn't find anything on this in Factory records (Warranty File) or the papers filed at the FAA. Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: MASON CHEVAILLIER To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:01 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: N14AV history FYI, anyone looking for a factory camera port, gary@ commander aero has the one we removed from 2001M. mason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: N14AV history Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:40:01 +0100 Hi David, An .xls file is attached, showing the history of s/n 914-22. The data has been gleaned from paperwork filed at the FAA and factory records held by Twin Commander. If there's anything, anything at all, that you can add, or correct, then please do let me know. One question, when the RC-10 camera was installed, was it accomplished under an STC? I presume it wasn't quoted on the Form 337. Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: David Owens To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior Sooooo Cool... I dont have any info in that area, other than the person we bought it from that did not make it after an accident in a 337... (his camera operator did make it). Before that I believe 14av belonged to the state of N. Carolina... Nothing before that. Thank you in advance for some really cool info. (We do have all the books, but thats allot of reading, and wading through) David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 11:54:56 AM PST US
    From: "Steve at Col-East" <steve2@sover.net>
    Subject: Google Commander Flight
    Folks, As we fly our photo survey missions, our navigation software records our 3D position. We had an interesting flight the other day, and for the first time we dumped the 'breadcrumbs' of our flight into Google Earth. I know other folks here have used Google to view things, so I thought I would post a file to our website. It's pretty small. On our 'Downloads Page' is a file, "New York Flight". You can right-click, save and unzip the file, then double-click the file if you have Google Earth. The job was down 1/2 mile south of JFK at 1200', though we never made it. It was the day the whole system went down (last Friday, I think). You intercept the Hudson River and fly southbound on the west side. I hit the river at about West Point and dropped to 1500'. Following the river down, NY wanted me to cross the George Washington, hang a left over Central Park, a right down the East River, and then turn 130(?) after the Williamburg Bridge. Just shy of the bridge I was told the system was down, JFK couldn't take me, what do you want to do? Took a second to figure that out and told LaGuardia however they got me eastbound to Hyannis (out on Cape Cod) was fine with me. Got told to do a 180, fly up the eastern edge of the East River until the tip of Roosevelt Island. Then hang a right and head direct for the Laguardia Tower cab, and then the south stanchion of the Throgs Neck Bridge. I was awful worried about my geography holding up at that point, but I did ok. (Went into the City a lot as a kid.) Out around Newport RI we spotted a sailboat race starting, and saw some beautiful boats heeled hard over, so I had to drop down and have Shaun fire the camera. You can see the decent in the flight path. Hit our job on the Cape, figured we'd head back for New York City and try our luck again, but passing Islip we gave up and shut the nav system down. Try 'tipping' the view at a pretty good angle to view it, and then drag along and follow. You can also run an animation on the track........ Hoping some might get a kick out of this...... Steve


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    Time: 12:10:47 PM PST US
    From: "Don Girod" <dongirod@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Parting out
    Barry; I'm not sure and I don't have the paperwork here at the house, Harry Merritt did it so he can answer all those questions, they were off a Queen Air, zero time out of overhaul. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Collman To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Parting out Hi Don, No, I didn't know that, so thanks for letting me know. I presume the props were installed under Jim's STC SA01105SE. Were they the HC-B3Z20-2A/10151(B)-8(R) or the HC-93Z20-2C/10151(B)-8(R). And, which 'bits' in brackets, if any, were applicable? If a Form 337 was sent to the FAA, I can check the full date the installation was signed-off as. Sincere Best regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Girod To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Parting out Barry; Does your records show that N2707B, has JimBob's STC and new props on it? Anyway, Harry put them on last Dec. '06. Just for your records. Don href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- 6/14/2007 12:44 PM


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    Time: 12:18:14 PM PST US
    From: BertBerry1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Google Commander Flight
    I missed the link to the website. Thanks Bert ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.


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    Time: 12:45:00 PM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Parting out
    Hi Don, No worries. I should be able to check it in September, when I next visit the Mike Moroney Center in Oklahoma City. ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Girod To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Parting out Barry; I'm not sure and I don't have the paperwork here at the house, Harry Merritt did it so he can answer all those questions, they were off a Queen Air, zero time out of overhaul. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Barry Collman To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:15 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Parting out Hi Don, No, I didn't know that, so thanks for letting me know. I presume the props were installed under Jim's STC SA01105SE. Were they the HC-B3Z20-2A/10151(B)-8(R) or the HC-93Z20-2C/10151(B)-8(R). And, which 'bits' in brackets, if any, were applicable? If a Form 337 was sent to the FAA, I can check the full date the installation was signed-off as. Sincere Best regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Girod To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Parting out Barry; Does your records show that N2707B, has JimBob's STC and new props on it? Anyway, Harry put them on last Dec. '06. Just for your records. Don href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Date: 6/14/2007 12:44 PM


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    Time: 12:59:02 PM PST US
    From: "steve" <steveg@nternet.com>
    Subject: Google Commander Flight
    Bert, If your email is to me for earle aircraft than the link is http://www.earleaircraft.com <http://www.earleaircraft.com/> Steve G. _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BertBerry1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:16 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Google Commander Flight I missed the link to the website. Thanks Bert _____ See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503> .


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    Time: 01:18:37 PM PST US
    From: "Steve at Col-East" <steve2@sover.net>
    Subject: Re: Google Commander Flight
    Steve G., I think I just figured out how to sign with 'Steve at Col-East.' I'm very sure you wouldn't want anyone thinking you were me. Steve W. ----- Original Message ----- From: steve To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:00 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Google Commander Flight Bert, If your email is to me for earle aircraft than the link is http://www.earleaircraft.com Steve G. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BertBerry1@aol.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:16 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Google Commander Flight I missed the link to the website. Thanks Bert ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- See what's free at AOL.com.


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    Time: 02:13:25 PM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Call to check
    Hi, If Tom Kinnaird or David Maytag are still monitoring the 'chatlist', please email me, as I've some old photos for you to check for me. Thanks! Best Regards, Barry Collman


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    Time: 02:30:44 PM PST US
    From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
    Subject: Re: N14AV history
    Downtown Airpark did the install... David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill


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    Time: 02:40:48 PM PST US
    From: MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala@MSN.COM>
    Subject: N14AV history
    bc, the camera system was seemingly unknown to everyone. it was installed at the factory when built. we discovered the structure while installing t he new auto pilot system. we removed all of the structure and i gave it to commander aero for there help. there was no opening or camera mounted. by the way i still have not received the history from you on 2001M. possibly this fall. look forward to seeing you . mason From: barry.collman@air-britain.co.ukTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubjec t: Re: Commander-List: N14AV historyDate: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 18:13:19 +0100 Hi Mason, That's interesting, as I didn't know that 680F(P) s/n 1208-109 had a camera installation! If you can help with all, or any, of the following, I'll be most grateful: 1. When was it installed? 2. What STC was used (or Factory Drawing)? 3. What Make & Model Camera was it? I didn't find anything on this in Factory records (Warranty File) or the pa pers filed at the FAA. Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: MASON CHEVAILLIER Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 6:01 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: N14AV history FYI, anyone looking for a factory camera port, gary@ commander aero has the one we removed from 2001M. mason From: barry.collman@air-britain.co.ukTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubjec t: Commander-List: N14AV historyDate: Thu, 14 Jun 2007 16:40:01 +0100 Hi David, An .xls file is attached, showing the history of s/n 914-22. The data has been gleaned from paperwork filed at the FAA and factory recor ds held by Twin Commander. If there's anything, anything at all, that you can add, or correct, then pl ease do let me know. One question, when the RC-10 camera was installed, was it accomplished unde r an STC? I presume it wasn't quoted on the Form 337. Very Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: David Owens Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Fwd: El Sid Interior Sooooo Cool... I dont have any info in that area, other than the person we bought it from that did not make it after an accident in a 337... (his came ra operator did make it). Before that I believe 14av belonged to the state of N. Carolina... Nothing before that. Thank you in advance for some really cool info. (We do have all the books, but thats allot of reading, and wadi ng through) David OwensAerial ViewpointN14AVAC-500A-Colemill href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matro nics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 07:23:43 PM PST US
    From: "Deneal Schilmeister" <deneals@deneals.com>
    Subject: Call to check
    Sir Barry: (and anyone else) Speaking of Maytag, if anyone has a picture of the Commander painted in National Airlines livery that used to park at the National hangar at MIA, I'd love to have a jpg of it. Or for that matter, pictures of the Eastern Airlines commanders that were based at MIA in the 1970s. Thanks. ___________________________ Deneal Schilmeister, ATP LearJet St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://deneals.com <http://deneals.com/> -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 4:11 PM Subject: Commander-List: Call to check Hi, If Tom Kinnaird or David Maytag are still monitoring the 'chatlist', please email me, as I've some old photos for you to check for me. Thanks! Best Regards, Barry Collman


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    Time: 07:37:04 PM PST US
    From: "Don Girod" <dongirod@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: Call to check
    If You get the Eastern Commanders, I would like to have a picture. Flew them about 45 years ago. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: Deneal Schilmeister To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:23 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Call to check Sir Barry: (and anyone else) Speaking of Maytag, if anyone has a picture of the Commander painted in National Airlines livery that used to park at the National hangar at MIA, I'd love to have a jpg of it. Or for that matter, pictures of the Eastern Airlines commanders that were based at MIA in the 1970s. Thanks. ___________________________ Deneal Schilmeister, ATP LearJet St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://deneals.com


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    Time: 09:15:50 PM PST US
    From: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
    Subject: Google Commander Flight
    Steve- Remind us slower/newer guys of your website URL so that we can find it? Robert Randazzo _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 11:53 Subject: Commander-List: Google Commander Flight Folks, As we fly our photo survey missions, our navigation software records our 3D position. We had an interesting flight the other day, and for the first time we dumped the 'breadcrumbs' of our flight into Google Earth. I know other folks here have used Google to view things, so I thought I would post a file to our website. It's pretty small. On our 'Downloads Page' is a file, "New York Flight". You can right-click, save and unzip the file, then double-click the file if you have Google Earth. The job was down 1/2 mile south of JFK at 1200', though we never made it. It was the day the whole system went down (last Friday, I think). You intercept the Hudson River and fly southbound on the west side. I hit the river at about West Point and dropped to 1500'. Following the river down, NY wanted me to cross the George Washington, hang a left over Central Park, a right down the East River, and then turn 130(?) after the Williamburg Bridge. Just shy of the bridge I was told the system was down, JFK couldn't take me, what do you want to do? Took a second to figure that out and told LaGuardia however they got me eastbound to Hyannis (out on Cape Cod) was fine with me. Got told to do a 180, fly up the eastern edge of the East River until the tip of Roosevelt Island. Then hang a right and head direct for the Laguardia Tower cab, and then the south stanchion of the Throgs Neck Bridge. I was awful worried about my geography holding up at that point, but I did ok. (Went into the City a lot as a kid.) Out around Newport RI we spotted a sailboat race starting, and saw some beautiful boats heeled hard over, so I had to drop down and have Shaun fire the camera. You can see the decent in the flight path. Hit our job on the Cape, figured we'd head back for New York City and try our luck again, but passing Islip we gave up and shut the nav system down. Try 'tipping' the view at a pretty good angle to view it, and then drag along and follow. You can also run an animation on the track........ Hoping some might get a kick out of this...... Steve __________ NOD32 2330 (20070615) Information __________


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    Time: 09:50:17 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Google Commander Flight
    I don't see a link. bilbo _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:53 PM Subject: Commander-List: Google Commander Flight Folks, As we fly our photo survey missions, our navigation software records our 3D position. We had an interesting flight the other day, and for the first time we dumped the 'breadcrumbs' of our flight into Google Earth. I know other folks here have used Google to view things, so I thought I would post a file to our website. It's pretty small. On our 'Downloads Page' is a file, "New York Flight". You can right-click, save and unzip the file, then double-click the file if you have Google Earth. The job was down 1/2 mile south of JFK at 1200', though we never made it. It was the day the whole system went down (last Friday, I think). You intercept the Hudson River and fly southbound on the west side. I hit the river at about West Point and dropped to 1500'. Following the river down, NY wanted me to cross the George Washington, hang a left over Central Park, a right down the East River, and then turn 130(?) after the Williamburg Bridge. Just shy of the bridge I was told the system was down, JFK couldn't take me, what do you want to do? Took a second to figure that out and told LaGuardia however they got me eastbound to Hyannis (out on Cape Cod) was fine with me. Got told to do a 180, fly up the eastern edge of the East River until the tip of Roosevelt Island. Then hang a right and head direct for the Laguardia Tower cab, and then the south stanchion of the Throgs Neck Bridge. I was awful worried about my geography holding up at that point, but I did ok. (Went into the City a lot as a kid.) Out around Newport RI we spotted a sailboat race starting, and saw some beautiful boats heeled hard over, so I had to drop down and have Shaun fire the camera. You can see the decent in the flight path. Hit our job on the Cape, figured we'd head back for New York City and try our luck again, but passing Islip we gave up and shut the nav system down. Try 'tipping' the view at a pretty good angle to view it, and then drag along and follow. You can also run an animation on the track........ Hoping some might get a kick out of this...... Steve




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