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1. 09:07 AM - Rudder Pedal Boots (Moe - Ross Racing Pistons)
2. 09:43 AM - Re: Rudder Pedal Boots (Deneal Schilmeister)
3. 10:11 AM - Re: Rudder Pedal Boots (mike floyd)
4. 03:47 PM - Re: 680FL & 680W Commanders (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
5. 06:46 PM - Re: Rudder Pedal Boots (Stan)
6. 08:54 PM - Descent Power Quandry... (Robert S. Randazzo)
7. 09:16 PM - Re: Descent Power Quandry... (CloudCraft@aol.com)
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Subject: | Rudder Pedal Boots |
625 S. Douglas, El Segundo, CA 90245 $B!|(B Phone: (310) 536-0100 Fax: (310)
536-0333
moe@rosspistons.com
Fellow Commander Drivers:
The last couple of flights, the pressurization in N680RR my 680F(p) has
really been weak. The problem is the boots around the rudder pedals are
cracked and leaking air big time. I had always assumed that they were made
of a nice, thin, and flexible leather, however, when removed they appear to
be cloth that has been coated (almost like an old oil cloth table cloth).
Has anyone made or had made replacement rudder pedal boots, and if so, what
did you use?
Comments will be greatly appreciated.
Moe
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Subject: | Re: Rudder Pedal Boots |
On 6/25/07 11:09 AM, "Moe - Ross Racing Pistons" <moe@rosspistons.com>
wrote:
> The last couple of flights, the pressurization in N680RR my 680F(p) has r
eally
> been weak. The problem is the boots around the rudder pedals are cracked
and
> leaking air big time. I had always assumed that they were made of a nice
,
> thin, and flexible leather, however, when removed they appear to be cloth
that
> has been coated (almost like an old oil cloth table cloth). Has anyone m
ade
> or had made replacement rudder pedal boots, and if so, what did you use?
>
> Comments will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Moe
I have not had any experience with this, but your description reminds me of
the shift boot I had in my 1986 Audi with manual transmission.
I had always thought it was leather until I replaced it to find it was a
plasticized or rubberized material over a cloth-like base.
Just an idea for an =B3adaptation.=B2
--
Deneal Schilmeister ATP Learjet
St. Louis, Missouri USA
http://deneals.com
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Subject: | Rudder Pedal Boots |
Those boots are readily available from TCAC part number is 860227-7 and
860227-9
Mike
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Subject: | Re: 680FL & 680W Commanders |
Excuse me for butting in but I have a 680 and it will out perform most
medium twins out there . It has power to spare. Wingflyer 1@aol.com
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Subject: | Rudder Pedal Boots |
At the Twin Commander University last March, TCAC passed around a few
different prototypes for replacement boots they$B!G(Bve designed, built, and
tested (the example they showed was for the control column, but the
construction methods would be essentially the same for all six boots). The
idea is to redesign the boots to make them significantly more durable and
easier to replace. From what I saw, they looked very promising, especially
compared to the original equipment. No time frame or cost estimates, though.
I think that I$B!G(Bll be needing to replace mine soon enough, so I have a
particular interest in this topic, too!
Regards,
Stan
N681SP
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Moe - Ross
Racing Pistons
Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 9:09 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Rudder Pedal Boots
625 S. Douglas, El Segundo, CA 90245 $B!|(B Phone: (310) 536-0100 Fax: (310)
536-0333
moe@rosspistons.com
Fellow Commander Drivers:
The last couple of flights, the pressurization in N680RR my 680F(p) has
really been weak. The problem is the boots around the rudder pedals are
cracked and leaking air big time. I had always assumed that they were made
of a nice, thin, and flexible leather, however, when removed they appear to
be cloth that has been coated (almost like an old oil cloth table cloth).
Has anyone made or had made replacement rudder pedal boots, and if so, what
did you use?
Comments will be greatly appreciated.
Moe
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Subject: | Descent Power Quandry... |
Commanders!
As we prepare to put N414C back in service- I've started reviewing the
manuals and documents to ensure I have good data on various power settings.
I've run into a quandary that I thought some of you (milt!) might have some
experience with- and could thus provide some advice!
In the AFM- the originally published "descent power" called for setting the
props to 2800 RPM and selecting either 28" or 25" depending upon whether you
wanted to come down at 1000 or 2000 fpm respectively.
Tucked in the back of the AFM- I've found a bulletin from Teledyne
Continental dated 07DEC88 (thus post-dating the AFM, obviously) that
suggests avoiding high RPM and low MP, while also avoiding low RPM and high
MP combinations in order to avoid torsional vibration to the gearing/drive
train.
All of this makes perfect sense- except that there are hand written notes on
the bulletin that leave me scratching my head as to the "correct" method to
use for descent power.... (The note reads: "For descent reduce RPM between
1700 + 1400")
I called TCM seeking guidance- and they wouldn't even acknowledge that
they'd ever made my engines- never mind trying to help me find someone who
could help me. <insert various insults to their parental lineage and
general genetic make-up here> I called RAM- and their guy was nervous about
giving me any specific power settings (obviously- the 520L/N/M is quite
different) but he was able to tell me that on RAM engines they generally
recommend that the pilot slow the RPM considerably below cruise RPM before
descending....
So- you 685 drivers (and geared engine guru's)- help me interpret what I
should be doing to manage these engines appropriately during a normal
descent?
I'm an airline guy- so I'm used to engine and energy management- and I'm not
a chop+drop guy. I'm very comfortable managing engines that are
"procedural" by nature- but in order to succeed I really need to know which
procedure to use! :-)
Thanks, everyone! Looking forward to some feedback!
Robert S. Randazzo
N414C's current custodian...
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Subject: | Re: Descent Power Quandry... |
In a message dated 25-Jun-07 20:55:00 Pacific Daylight Time,
rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com writes:
In the AFM- the originally published "descent power" called for setting the
props to 2800 RPM and selecting either 28" or 25" depending upon whether you
wanted to come down at 1000 or 2000 fpm respectively.
Dear Current Custodian of N414C,
The above power settings for descent look pretty good, but it's been so long
since I was the custodian of N414C that I don't recall.
I will say that 2800 RPM and 25" is not unreasonable as far as a MAP/RPM
combination for a this engine.
I bet that you'll find that the current state of N414C's pressure vessel will
help determine what MAP you use on descent: you may need the higher power at
altitude to hold the cabin, so any other theories will be out the window ...
or outflow valve to be more correct.
I used to just hold cruise power and reduce MAP one inch per 5000' if coming
down from the high teens, planning the descent with a decceleration segment to
slow and configure for further descent. The Reno basin may not give you
that luxury and you may have to "dirty up" to get down after crossing the ridge
lines.
____________________________________
Now, Robert, if you'll excuse me and if I can wander off course for a moment
to the discussion about the AC-680FL(P) O.E.I. performance, the -FLs were
never scary to me with one engine inoperative. The FL(P)s due to their higher
weights, were. However, I seldom operated at maximum weights because I was not
flying cargo.
The MR. RPM conversions certainly provided some fuel economy and freedom from
gear boxes but I and many others felt that the potential of the IO-720 never
made it to the prop -- or the prop never produced the potential thrust.
Was because of the need for inter-coolers? Were the props poorly matched to
the engine? I don't know but I was always disappointed in teh O.E.I.
performance of the long body MR RPM conversions.
I still think they're a terrific airplane and I'd still buy one if I were
foolish enough to own an airplane. ;-)
____________________________________
N47RR has been discussed on this net many times and I would hope that Harry
Merritt would log in with his comments -- I think Harry was the last one on
this list who had it before it went to eBay. It has damage history. It's been
repaired. I was impressed with the airplane when I looked at it a few years
ago here in Las Vegas, before it got dropped on the floor. I thought it was
one of the better MR RPM ships I'd seen.
Wing Commander Gordon
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