---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 07/16/07: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:30 AM - Re: Paint schemes (KenWHyde@aol.com) 2. 08:50 AM - Re: Re: Speed Mod for fat cowl Commanders? (Don Girod) 3. 09:41 AM - Re: Re: Speed Mod for fat cowl Commanders? (CloudCraft@aol.com) 4. 01:45 PM - Re: Speed Mod for fat cowl Commanders? (N395V) 5. 03:03 PM - Re: Paint schemes (AEROCOMAND@aol.com) 6. 03:04 PM - Re: Re: Speed Mod for fat cowl Commanders? (CloudCraft@aol.com) 7. 05:46 PM - New Interior (Skyhawkc-172) 8. 05:57 PM - Re: P-366-D Aux Hyd pump (Skyhawkc-172) 9. 06:14 PM - Re: Paint schemes (Tylor Hall) 10. 08:36 PM - Re: Paint schemes (nico css) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:30:08 AM PST US From: KenWHyde@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes Absolutely Beautiful! who did the paint work and what is the paint? Ken Hyde N47AC ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:50:59 AM PST US From: "Don Girod" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Speed Mod for fat cowl Commanders? Commanderland; I have just a curious question on this subject. Are there any identical airframes with the same engines only one is 'bathtub' and the other is 'streamlined'. I wonder with the same engines what the difference in cruise speeds would be between the different 'engine pods'. Anyone have any information better than a WAG or SWAG on this subject? The frontal area does not look that much larger, although the cowling does curve around a larger area. Just curious. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "N395V" Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2007 9:36 AM Subject: Commander-List: Re: Speed Mod for fat cowl Commanders? > > > The short answer is no, in particular to an STC. > > The correct terminology is bathtub comander as opposed to fat cowled or > Pensui which is hinese for fat jowls. > > I suspect you could do a lot inside the cowl (where it can't be seen with > a bit of sheet aluminum and fiberglass. > > Thaere ain't enough of them to make an STC economically feasible. > > Best speed mod available is the flap gap seal. > > -------- > Milt > 2003 F1 Rocket > 2006 Radial Rocket > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=123899#123899 > > > -- > 2:21 PM > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:09 AM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Speed Mod for fat cowl Commanders? In a message dated 16-Jul-07 08:52:08 Pacific Daylight Time, dongirod@bellsouth.net writes: Are there any identical airframes with the same engines only one is 'bathtub' and the other is 'streamlined'. Don, Sir Barry will most certainly have any information on experimental mods at the factory. The bathtub nacelles are all associated with geared engines with three exceptions. The AC-500 was a transition/trainer model with direct dirive Lycomings. The 680-F series does have the Speedline nacelles but with the Lycoming IGSO-540 engine. The 685 has flat nacelles (can we call those "Speedline?") with Continental GTSIO-520 engines. If one was really bored and had just too damn much money, I'd suggest they study the nacelle design of the Orenda conversion on the AC-685. That's probably the best way to streamline the bathtubs -- and most of the trail has been blazed. Photo courtesey of _http://www.mrrpm.com/_ (http://www.mrrpm.com/) Go take a look at what Mr. RPM is offering! Wing Commander Gordon ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:45:09 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: Speed Mod for fat cowl Commanders? From: "N395V" I think the cowl size is dictated more by the style of main landing gear than by the engine. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124156#124156 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:03:14 PM PST US From: AEROCOMAND@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes Thanks Nico for the info.. As you may know I changed the N# to N261JG.... The fly-in is not on the schedule yet, I need to get Tylor Hall to convince me... I had to remove the Bendix fuel Injector Servo from L/E and have it O/H now at a shop. Soon as I get some aerial photos will send them over. Jorge ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:04:37 PM PST US From: CloudCraft@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Speed Mod for fat cowl Commanders? In a message dated 16-Jul-07 13:45:57 Pacific Daylight Time, airboss@excaliburaviation.com writes: I think the cowl size is dictated more by the style of main landing gear than by the engine. -------- Milt 2003 F1 Rocket 2006 Radial Rocket You know, that's a really good point. The front end may be available for closing in and using NACA scoops for cooling flow (ala Orenda) but it's gonna be a bulbous nacelle no matter what, isn't it? Wing Commander Gordon ************************************** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:46:56 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: New Interior From: "Skyhawkc-172" Heys Guys, Looking for New Leather interior to replace the old interior, anyone have recommendations as to how they did theirs and what if anything you may have done differently? Thanks guys! Brent - N224HA[/b] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124214#124214 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:57:45 PM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: P-366-D Aux Hyd pump From: "Skyhawkc-172" KEN. I had mine done at Quality A/C Accessories Tulsa 877-833-6948 I recommend them also Brent - N224HA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=124218#124218 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:14:12 PM PST US From: Tylor Hall Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes Jorge, I can make you an offer you can't refuse. I can also send up Nunzio and Guido to make the offer. It just would not look right to show up a TCFG in a C-182. My wife wants to came as well. I have a customer at a near by airport in need to see. It would be fun. What kind convincing do you need? Get the airplane fixed. Tylor Hall On Jul 16, 2007, at 3:52 PM, AEROCOMAND@aol.com wrote: > Thanks Nico for the info.. > > As you may know I changed the N# to N261JG.... The fly-in is not > on the schedule yet, I need to get Tylor Hall to convince me... I > had to remove the Bendix fuel Injector Servo from L/E and have it O/ > H now at a shop. > > Soon as I get some aerial photos will send them over. > > Jorge > > > Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL.com. > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:36:42 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Paint schemes That'll be great Thanks Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AEROCOMAND@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Paint schemes Thanks Nico for the info.. As you may know I changed the N# to N261JG.... The fly-in is not on the schedule yet, I need to get Tylor Hall to convince me... I had to remove the Bendix fuel Injector Servo from L/E and have it O/H now at a shop. Soon as I get some aerial photos will send them over. 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