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Mon 07/23/07


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 11:28 AM - Re: Weight & Balance (Steve at Col-East)
     2. 12:39 PM - TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention (yourtcfg@aol.com)
     3. 01:02 PM - Additional Fly-In Information (yourtcfg@aol.com)
     4. 01:34 PM - Re: Commander multiengine examiner (alh1@juno.com)
     5. 01:49 PM - Re: Re: Commander multiengine examiner (Donnie Rose)
     6. 02:10 PM - Re: Re: Commander multiengine examiner (Bill Bow)
     7. 06:32 PM - Re: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
     8. 06:41 PM - Re: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention (Tom Fisher)
     9. 07:00 PM - Re: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention (yourtcfg@aol.com)
    10. 10:17 PM - Bill Leff needs a ride to OSH (Deneal Schilmeister)
 
 
 


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    Time: 11:28:53 AM PST US
    From: "Steve at Col-East" <steve2@sover.net>
    Subject: Re: Weight & Balance
    Well I goofed around a little with Excel and came up with a simplified W&B spreadsheet based off the original from David. Give it a test run and see if it works. I did find that with our Commander, there are loading scenarios that have us go too far forward in C.G with small quantities of fuel just like Cmd Gordon said. I'll have to stop poking fun at our cameraman's weight, because we apparently need the ballast. I did a couple test runs with generic values of a Commander that doesn't have 300 pounds of gear in the middle row, and it is harder to get a 500 out of sorts. The sheet is generic enough to where it should be easily modified to fit many models. The sheet is 'Protected' so the fumble-fingered among us can't hurt it, but there is no password so anyone can modify the cells. Just go up to Tools, Protection, to protect and unprotect sheet. So enter you empty weight and C.G. in blue once. Then just modify yellow cells. It should print out nice also...... For the spreadsheet challenged, I could enter stuff for you, but really, it's easy. If you haven't messed with these things before, try it. They're neat..... I'm just scratching the surface, so if any of you fellows are better, go ahead and make this a better thing...... Hope the attachment makes it. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Donnie Rose To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:20 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Yes Steve, I would like a tweaked copy, my metric is a little rusty! Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: Steve at Col-East <steve2@sover.net> To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10:16 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Donnie, That spreadsheet was sent courtesy of David down-under. I'll send the copy I received to your Yahoo mail. I'm tweaking it to read in lbs and inches...... If you want one when I'm done I'll send it along..... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Donnie Rose To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Hey Steve, can you please re-send, I didn't get the attachment. Thanks, N69PT Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "Steve @ Col-East" <steve2@sover.net> To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:35:47 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance David, The attachment worked fine. This is a really nice sheet! I probably wouldn't have built the graphics on my own, so I'm glad to have them. Thanks for sharing it....... I look forward to getting Gordon's work so I can rejigger it for our use here. Thanks guys, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: David Fitzgerald To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance I don=A2t know if attachments work but this is a homemade one Cheers Dr David Fitzgerald BMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago) CASA Medical Officer Designated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair Zinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer Registrar in Occupational Medicine DavidFitzgerald@bigpond.com mob 0438 312973 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:58 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance WCG, I lok fwd to seeing the sheets! Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "cloudcraft@aol.com" <cloudcraft@aol.com> To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:13:51 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Steve, When I was at Inter Island Air, I developed an (almost) "one sheet does all" Weight & Balance / Manifest/ Dispatch sheet for FAR 135 purposes. It is not a spread sheet but the arms are there and one can do simple math on the go -- and have the C.G. envelope tables right there. I'm on a trip for a few days; when I get home I'll upload the template for the 500 A/B/U/S. Wing Commander Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Steve at Col-East <steve2@sover.net> To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 1:24 pm Subject: Commander-List: Weight & Balance <steve2@sover.net> Folks, Before I go and reinvent the wheel, has anyone built a 500 series, or Commander specific spreadsheet I can adapt? 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    Time: 12:39:09 PM PST US
    Subject: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention
    From: yourtcfg@aol.com
    Hi Gang, The TCFG Flyin and Convention is less than two months away and we can't wait to see all of you again.? Hope you are all making plans to attend.? The Hangar Hotel at the Gillespie County Airport (T82) in Fredericksburg, Texas will be the site of this year's event.? Fredericksburg is one of the most popular destinations in Texas and is located in the very heart of the beautiful Texas Hill country with a blend of German heritage and Texas hospitality.? Adjoining the airport is the beautiful Lady Bird Johnson Park with several water features, nature trails, picnic spots and all types of sporting facilities.? The park is also home to an eighteen-hole championship golf course.? You can board carts at the Hangar Hotel and be at the course within a few minutes.? ?Some of the local sites of interest (just to name a few) include the National Museum of the Pacific War, the Nimitz museum, and numerous art galleries.? ? The airport is located only 2 miles from historic Main Street which is host to unique shops and restaurants.? Many of the buildings are representative of a German/bavarian village.? ? Fredericksburg is located 1 hour and 15 minutes east of Austin and 1 hour south of San Antonio.? There is so much to do and see in this area of Texas that you will want to come early or stay after the Fly-In to go exploring.? A great program is being finalized including a visit to San Antonio being arranged by our own Buddy Windham, ?a Fly-out and/or field trip, ladies shopping excursion and a good line-up of speakers.?? The cost will be $150 for members and $200 for non-members.? Registration packes will be sent this week to current TCFG members.? If you are not a current member, let us know and we would be happy to send you the information.? CAR RENTAL INFORMATION:? The Motor Pool Auto Group serves the Gillespie County Airport and they have a small fleet of cars.? Please call 866-990-0562 to reserve.? If you are arriving after 6:00pm arrangements can be made to pick up your car at the Hangar Hotel.? Enterprise Rental Car provides rental cars to the airport if the Motor Pool does not have any available.? Call 830-997-1745 to reserve.? ? ? HOTEL RESERVATIONS The Hangar Hotel is a very unique and fun hotel located right on the airport (www.hangarhotel.com) ?A block of rooms has been reserved for this event at the following rates (taxes not included):? ? ??????????? Thursday Night???????????????????????? $ 99 ??????????? Friday-Saturday Nights????????????? $145 ? When making reservations let them know that you are with the Twin Commander Flight Group (TCFG), group confirmation #L259010.? In order to receive this rate rooms must be booked no later than August 20th.? After that the rooms will be released for general booking at regular rates.? Book ASAP as rooms will go fast.? ? Other hotels in the area include: ? Cotton Gin Lodging??????????????????????????????? 830-990-5734 (provides free shuttle to airport) Best Western??????????????????????????????????????? 830-992-2929 Super 8???????????????????????????????????????????????? 830-997-6568 Sunday House Inn???????????????????????????????? 830-997-4484 COME JOIN US.? YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON HAVING A GREAT TIME WITH WONDERFUL AND FUN COMMANDER ENTHUSIASTS!!? ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 01:02:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Additional Fly-In Information
    From: yourtcfg@aol.com
    By the way, the phone number for the Hangar Hotel to make reservations is *830)997-9990.? Be sure to book early! jb ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 01:34:27 PM PST US
    From: "alh1@juno.com" <alh1@juno.com>
    Subject: Re: Commander multiengine examiner
    i need to get an faa examiner or designee who is qualified to give check rides in a 500 commander. i live in south florida. anyone know of anyone so qualified? thanks, al hoffman ________________________________________________________________________ Save hundreds of dollars a year with Juno Internet access. Plans start as low as $9.95 a month. Visit Juno today! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?u=http://ads.addynamix.com/click/2-2130421-170


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    Time: 01:49:06 PM PST US
    From: Donnie Rose <aquadiver99@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Commander multiengine examiner
    Hi Al, the way I recvd mine was by letter of temporary permission from the local FSDO authorizing my (specific) designated examiner.=0AN69PT=0A =0ADon nie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "alh1@juno.com" <alh1@juno.com>=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, July 23, 2007 3:30:57 PM=0ASubject: Commander-List: Re: Commander no.com" <alh1@juno.com>=0A=0Ai need to get an faa examiner or designee who is qualified to give=0Acheck rides in a 500 commander. i live in south flo rida. anyone know=0Aof anyone so qualified? thanks, al hoffman=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________________________________________________ =0ASave hundreds of dollars a year with Juno Internet access.=0APlans start as low as $9.95 a month. Visit Juno today!=0Ahttp://track.juno.com/s/lc?u ========================0A=0A =0A =0A______________________________________________________________ ahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469


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    Time: 02:10:03 PM PST US
    From: "Bill Bow" <bowing74@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Commander multiengine examiner
    Al, Just mail me your log book and 50 dollar bill and I take care of it. Bilbo :) -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of alh1@juno.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 4:31 PM Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander multiengine examiner i need to get an faa examiner or designee who is qualified to give check rides in a 500 commander. i live in south florida. anyone know of anyone so qualified? thanks, al hoffman ________________________________________________________________________ Save hundreds of dollars a year with Juno Internet access. Plans start as low as $9.95 a month. Visit Juno today! http://track.juno.com/s/lc?u=http://ads.addynamix.com/click/2-2130421-170


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    Time: 06:32:50 PM PST US
    From: "MASON CHEVAILLIER" <kamala@MSN.COM>
    Subject: Re: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention
    jm, booked over a month ago, looking forward to it. if I can be of any help let me know. mason ----- Original Message ----- From: yourtcfg@aol.com<mailto:yourtcfg@aol.com> To: commander-list@matronics.com<mailto:commander-list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: Commander-List: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention Hi Gang, The TCFG Flyin and Convention is less than two months away and we can't wait to see all of you again. Hope you are all making plans to attend. The Hangar Hotel at the Gillespie County Airport (T82) in Fredericksburg, Texas will be the site of this year's event. Fredericksburg is one of the most popular destinations in Texas and is located in the very heart of the beautiful Texas Hill country with a blend of German heritage and Texas hospitality. Adjoining the airport is the beautiful Lady Bird Johnson Park with several water features, nature trails, picnic spots and all types of sporting facilities. The park is also home to an eighteen-hole championship golf course. You can board carts at the Hangar Hotel and be at the course within a few minutes. Some of the local sites of interest (just to name a few) include the National Museum of the Pacific War, the Nimitz museum, and numerous art galleries. The airport is located only 2 miles from historic Main Street which is host to unique shops and restaurants. Many of the buildings are representative of a German/bavarian village. Fredericksburg is located 1 hour and 15 minutes east of Austin and 1 hour south of San Antonio. There is so much to do and see in this area of Texas that you will want to come early or stay after the Fly-In to go exploring. A great program is being finalized including a visit to San Antonio being arranged by our own Buddy Windham, a Fly-out and/or field trip, ladies shopping excursion and a good line-up of speakers. The cost will be $150 for members and $200 for non-members. Registration packes will be sent this week to current TCFG members. If you are not a current member, let us know and we would be happy to send you the information. CAR RENTAL INFORMATION: The Motor Pool Auto Group serves the Gillespie County Airport and they have a small fleet of cars. Please call 866-990-0562 to reserve. If you are arriving after 6:00pm arrangements can be made to pick up your car at the Hangar Hotel. Enterprise Rental Car provides rental cars to the airport if the Motor Pool does not have any available. Call 830-997-1745 to reserve. HOTEL RESERVATIONS The Hangar Hotel is a very unique and fun hotel located right on the airport (www.hangarhotel.com<http://www.hangarhotel.com/>) A block of rooms has been reserved for this event at the following rates (taxes not included): Thursday Night $ 99 Friday-Saturday Nights $145 When making reservations let them know that you are with the Twin Commander Flight Group (TCFG), group confirmation #L259010. In order to receive this rate rooms must be booked no later than August 20th. After that the rooms will be released for general booking at regular rates. Book ASAP as rooms will go fast. Other hotels in the area include: Cotton Gin Lodging 830-990-5734 (provides free shuttle to airport) Best Western 830-992-2929 Super 8 830-997-6568 Sunday House Inn 830-997-4484 COME JOIN US. YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON HAVING A GREAT TIME WITH WONDERFUL AND FUN COMMANDER ENTHUSIASTS!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List<http://www.matronics.co m/Navigator?Commander-List>


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    Time: 06:41:43 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention
    I know I am getting blind but I can't see an actual date of the event in the body of this message. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: MASON CHEVAILLIER To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention jm, booked over a month ago, looking forward to it. if I can be of any help let me know. mason ----- Original Message ----- From: yourtcfg@aol.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: Commander-List: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention Hi Gang, The TCFG Flyin and Convention is less than two months away and we can't wait to see all of you again. Hope you are all making plans to attend. The Hangar Hotel at the Gillespie County Airport (T82) in Fredericksburg, Texas will be the site of this year's event. Fredericksburg is one of the most popular destinations in Texas and is located in the very heart of the beautiful Texas Hill country with a blend of German heritage and Texas hospitality. Adjoining the airport is the beautiful Lady Bird Johnson Park with several water features, nature trails, picnic spots and all types of sporting facilities. The park is also home to an eighteen-hole championship golf course. You can board carts at the Hangar Hotel and be at the course within a few minutes. Some of the local sites of interest (just to name a few) include the National Museum of the Pacific War, the Nimitz museum, and numerous art galleries. The airport is located only 2 miles from historic Main Street which is host to unique shops and restaurants. Many of the buildings are representative of a German/bavarian village. Fredericksburg is located 1 hour and 15 minutes east of Austin and 1 hour south of San Antonio. There is so much to do and see in this area of Texas that you will want to come early or stay after the Fly-In to go exploring. A great program is being finalized including a visit to San Antonio being arranged by our own Buddy Windham, a Fly-out and/or field trip, ladies shopping excursion and a good line-up of speakers. The cost will be $150 for members and $200 for non-members. Registration packes will be sent this week to current TCFG members. If you are not a current member, let us know and we would be happy to send you the information. CAR RENTAL INFORMATION: The Motor Pool Auto Group serves the Gillespie County Airport and they have a small fleet of cars. Please call 866-990-0562 to reserve. If you are arriving after 6:00pm arrangements can be made to pick up your car at the Hangar Hotel. Enterprise Rental Car provides rental cars to the airport if the Motor Pool does not have any available. Call 830-997-1745 to reserve. HOTEL RESERVATIONS The Hangar Hotel is a very unique and fun hotel located right on the airport (www.hangarhotel.com) A block of rooms has been reserved for this event at the following rates (taxes not included): Thursday Night $ 99 Friday-Saturday Nights $145 When making reservations let them know that you are with the Twin Commander Flight Group (TCFG), group confirmation #L259010. In order to receive this rate rooms must be booked no later than August 20th. After that the rooms will be released for general booking at regular rates. Book ASAP as rooms will go fast. Other hotels in the area include: Cotton Gin Lodging 830-990-5734 (provides free shuttle to airport) Best Western 830-992-2929 Super 8 830-997-6568 Sunday House Inn 830-997-4484 COME JOIN US. YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON HAVING A GREAT TIME WITH WONDERFUL AND FUN COMMANDER ENTHUSIASTS!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.mat ronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 07:00:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention
    From: yourtcfg@aol.com
    The dates of the event are Thursday, September 20 throught Sunday, September 23rd.? Hope to see y'all there! jb -----Original Message----- From: Tom Fisher <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca> Sent: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 7:41 pm Subject: Re: Commander-List: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention I know I am getting blind but I can't see an actual date of the event in the body of this message. Tom ? ----- Original Message ----- From: MASON CHEVAILLIER Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 5:34 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention jm, booked over a month ago, looking forward to it. if I can be of any help let me know.? mason ----- Original Message ----- From: yourtcfg@aol.com Sent: Monday, July 23, 2007 2:38 PM Subject: Commander-List: TCFG Annual Fly-In and Convention Hi Gang, The TCFG Flyin and Convention is less than two months away and we can't wait to see all of you again.? Hope you are all making plans to attend.? The Hangar Hotel at the Gillespie County Airport (T82) in Fredericksburg, Texas will be the site of this year's event.? Fredericksburg is one of the most popular destinations in Texas and is located in the very heart of the beautiful Texas Hill country with a blend of German heritage and Texas hospitality.? Adjoining the airport is the beautiful Lady Bird Johnson Park with several water features, nature trails, picnic spots and all types of sporting facilities.? The park is also home to an eighteen-hole championship golf course.? You can board carts at the Hangar Hotel and be at the course within a few minutes.? ?Some of the local sites of interest (just to name a few) include the National Museum of the Pacific War, the Nimitz museum, and numerous art galleries.? ? The airport is located only 2 miles from historic Main Street which is host to unique shops and restaurants.? Many of the buildings are representative of a German/bavarian village.? ? Fredericksburg is located 1 hour and 15 minutes east of Austin and 1 hour south of San Antonio.? There is so much to do and see in this area of Texas that you will want to come early or stay after the Fly-In to go exploring.? A great program is being finalized including a visit to San Antonio being arranged by our own Buddy Windham, ?a Fly-out and/or field trip, ladies shopping excursion and a good line-up of speakers.?? The cost will be $150 for members and $200 for non-members.? Registration packes will be sent this week to current TCFG members.? If you are not a current member, let us know and we would be happy to send you the information.? CAR RENTAL INFORMATION:? The Motor Pool Auto Group serves the Gillespie County Airport and they have a small fleet of cars.? Please call 866-990-0562 to reserve.? If you are arriving after 6:00pm arrangements can be made to pick up your car at the Hangar Hotel.? Enterprise Rental Car provides rental cars to the airport if the Motor Pool does not have any available.? Call 830-997-1745 to reserve.? ? ? HOTEL RESERVATIONS The Hangar Hotel is a very unique and fun hotel located right on the airport (www.hangarhotel.com) ?A block of rooms has been reserved for this event at the following rates (taxes not included):? ? ??????????? Thursday Night???????????????????????? $ 99 ??????????? Friday-Saturday Nights????????????? $145 ? When making reservations let them know that you are with the Twin Commander Flight Group (TCFG), group confirmation #L259010.? In order to receive this rate rooms must be booked no later than August 20th.? After that the rooms will be released for general booking at regular rates.? Book ASAP as rooms will go fast.? ? Other hotels in the area include: ? Cotton Gin Lodging??????????????????????????????? 830-990-5734 (provides free shuttle to airport) Best Western??????????????????????????????????????? 830-992-2929 Super 8???????????????????????????????????????????????? 830-997-6568 Sunday House Inn???????????????????????????????? 830-997-4484 COME JOIN US.? YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON HAVING A GREAT TIME WITH WONDERFUL AND FUN COMMANDER ENTHUSIASTS!!? title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ? HOTEL RESERVATIONS The Hangar Hotel is a very unique and fun hotel located right on the airport (www.hangarhotel.com) ?A block of rooms has been reserved for this event at the following rates (taxes not included):? ? ??????????? Thursday Night???????????????????????? $ 99 ??????????? Friday-Saturday Nights????????????? $145 ? When making reservations let them know that you are with the Twin Commander Flight Group (TCFG), group confirmation #L259010.? In order to receive this rate rooms must be booked no later than August 20th.? After that the rooms will be released for general booking at regular rates.? Book ASAP as rooms will go fast.? ? Other hotels in the area include: ? Cotton Gin Lodging??????????????????????????????? 830-990-5734 (provides free shuttle to airport) Best Western??????????????????????????????????????? 830-992-2929 Super 8???????????????????????????????????????????????? 830-997-6568 Sunday House Inn???????????????????????????????? 830-997-4484 COME JOIN US.? YOU WON'T WANT TO MISS OUT ON HAVING A GREAT TIME WITH WONDERFUL AND FUN COMMANDER ENTHUSIASTS!!? title=http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________________________________________________


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    Time: 10:17:43 PM PST US
    From: "Deneal Schilmeister" <deneals@deneals.com>
    Subject: Bill Leff needs a ride to OSH
    The Enquirer <http://enquirer.com> > News <http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/section?Category=NEWS> > Dayton man lands plane on highway * Last Updated: 9:11 pm | Monday, July 23, 2007 Dayton man lands plane on highway THE ASSOCIATED PRESS FOND DU LAC, Wis. - An Ohio man flying a World War II-era plane made an emergency landing on a Wisconsin highway after experiencing engine trouble, snarling traffic for hours as authorities worked to move the aircraft. No injuries were reported after the plane landed on U.S. Highway 41 near Fond du Lac County Airport about 7:45 p.m. Sunday, authorities said. . Raw <http://video.ap.org/vws/search/aspx/ap.aspx?t=s60&p=ENAPus_ENAPus&g= 0723dv_ wi_plane_highway&f=OHCIN> Video: Plane Lands on Wisconsin Highway William J. Leff, of Dayton, was flying a 1946 North American T-6G plane with his son to the Experimental Aircraft Association's AirVenture show in Oshkosh when the engine problems arose, the Wisconsin State Patrol said in a statement. The plane touched down momentarily and regained altitude, banking briefly before landing and coming to a stop in the northbound lanes, the statement said. The right wing was damaged after it hit several highway signs. The highway was closed for hours in both directions until authorities managed to move the plane to the nearby airport. ___________________________ Deneal Schilmeister St. Louis - Cincinnati 1997 SL500 http://homepage.mac.com/deneals/SL500.htm




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