---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 07/26/07: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:51 AM - Re: Weight & Balance (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 2. 06:51 AM - Re: Weight & Balance (Steve at Col-East) 3. 07:39 AM - Re: Weight & Balance (Donnie Rose) 4. 09:23 AM - TCFG membership (nico css) 5. 12:22 PM - Re: TCFG membership (Donnie Rose) 6. 12:22 PM - Re: TCFG membership (Donnie Rose) 7. 05:08 PM - Re: TCFG membership (nico css) 8. 08:28 PM - Re: TCFG membership (Donnie Rose) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:51:38 AM PST US From: MASON CHEVAILLIER Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance all, we could make hand outs at the fly in of the w & b info and any others of interest. mason From: nico@cybersuperstore.comTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & BalanceDate: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:58:42 -0700 Jim Metzger (Capt Jimbob) will pick this up and take care of it for you. Nico From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie RoseSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2 007 7:10 PMTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Commander-List: Wei ght & Balance Hey Nico, I was about to register but it has a slot for "member", how do I become one? By the way, I will have empty seats if anyone needs a ride. Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ----From: nico css To: com mander-list@matronics.comSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:17:13 PMSubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Check it out on the website, Donnie. www.aerocommander.com Nico From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie RoseSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2 007 5:54 PMTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Commander-List: Wei ght & Balance Cheers back at you big guy! By the way, has anyone seen an itenerary for the fly-in? Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ----From: W J R HAMILTON To: commander-list@matronics.comSent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:51:39 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & BalanceDonnie,Likewise.Cheers,Bill Ha miltonAt 05:39 AM 25/07/2007, you wrote: Donnie,I would like a copy in lbs and inches also.Thanks Jim AddingtonN444B D From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-EastSent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AMTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Commander-Li st: Weight & Balance Donnie, That spreadsheet was sent courtesy of David do wn-under. I'll send the copy I received to your Yahoo mail. I'm tweaking it to read in lbs and inches...... If you want one when I'm done I'll send it along..... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Hey Steve, can you please re-send, I didn't get the attachment. Thanks, N69PT Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "Steve @ Col-East" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:35:47 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance David, The attachment worked fine. This is a really nice sheet! I probably wouldn' t have built the graphics on my own, so I'm glad to have them. Thanks for s haring it....... I look forward to getting Gordon's work so I can rejigger it for our use he re. Thanks guys, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: David Fitzgerald Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance I don=A2t know if attachments work but this is a homemade one Cheers Dr David Fitzgerald BMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago) CASA Medical Officer Designated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair Zinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer Registrar in Occupational Medicine DavidFitzgerald@bigpond.com mob 0438 312973 From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance WCG, I lok fwd to seeing the sheets! Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "cloudcraft@aol.com" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:13:51 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Steve, When I was at Inter Island Air, I developed an (almost) "one sheet does all " Weight & Balance / Manifest/ Dispatch sheet for FAR 135 purposes. It is not a spread sheet but the arms are there and one can do simple math on the go -- and have the C.G. envelope tables right there. I'm on a trip for a few days; when I get home I'll upload the template for the 500 A/B/U/S. Wing Commander Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Steve at Col-East Sent: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 1:24 pm Subject: Commander-List: Weight & Balance > Folks, Before I go and reinvent the wheel, has anyone built a 500 series, or Comma nder specific spreadsheet I can adapt? If not, a good generic sheet would work just fine as a beginning point. I'l l compare the end results with numerous loading scenarios we have calculate d. 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I had also though about trying to integrate the TO&L distances calculator, and or a data entry page for multiple models. Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: MASON CHEVAILLIER To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:48 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance all, we could make hand outs at the fly in of the w & b info and any others of interest. mason ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: nico@cybersuperstore.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 21:58:42 -0700 Jim Metzger (Capt Jimbob) will pick this up and take care of it for you. Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:10 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Hey Nico, I was about to register but it has a slot for "member", how do I become one? By the way, I will have empty seats if anyone needs a ride. Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: nico css To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:17:13 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Check it out on the website, Donnie. www.aerocommander.com Nico ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:54 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Cheers back at you big guy! By the way, has anyone seen an itenerary for the fly-in? Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: W J R HAMILTON To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:51:39 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Donnie, Likewise. Cheers, Bill Hamilton At 05:39 AM 25/07/2007, you wrote: Donnie, I would like a copy in lbs and inches also. Thanks Jim Addington N444BD From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Donnie, That spreadsheet was sent courtesy of David down-under. I'll send the copy I received to your Yahoo mail. I'm tweaking it to read in lbs and inches...... If you want one when I'm done I'll send it along..... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Donnie Rose To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Hey Steve, can you please re-send, I didn't get the attachment. Thanks, N69PT Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "Steve @ Col-East" To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:35:47 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance David, The attachment worked fine. This is a really nice sheet! I probably wouldn't have built the graphics on my own, so I'm glad to have them. Thanks for sharing it....... I look forward to getting Gordon's work so I can rejigger it for our use here. Thanks guys, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: David Fitzgerald To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance I don=A2t know if attachments work but this is a homemade one Cheers Dr David Fitzgerald BMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago) CASA Medical Officer Designated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair Zinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer Registrar in Occupational Medicine DavidFitzgerald@bigpond.com mob 0438 312973 From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:58 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance WCG, I lok fwd to seeing the sheets! Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "cloudcraft@aol.com" To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:13:51 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Steve, When I was at Inter Island Air, I developed an (almost) "one sheet does all" Weight & Balance / Manifest/ Dispatch sheet for FAR 135 purposes. It is not a spread sheet but the arms are there and one can do simple math on the go -- and have the C.G. envelope tables right there. I'm on a trip for a few days; when I get home I'll upload the template for the 500 A/B/U/S. Wing Commander Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Steve at Col-East To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 1:24 pm Subject: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Folks, Before I go and reinvent the wheel, has anyone built a 500 series, or Commander specific spreadsheet I can adapt? If not, a good generic sheet would work just fine as a beginning point. I'll compare the end results with numerous loading scenarios we have calculated. Steve Join our NetworkResearch Paneltoday! vigator?Commander-List" target=_blankrel=nofollow>http://www.matronicsums.matronics.com/"targ et=_blankrel=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.======== ===== Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com =========== CONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE W.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet Services and Warbirds.Net. & This message is intended for and should only be used by the addressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.If you are not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or copying of this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal privilege attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery. 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" target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List p://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:39:32 AM PST US From: Donnie Rose Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance ???=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: commander-list@matr onics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:58:42 PM=0ASubject: RE: Comma nder-List: Weight & Balance=0A=0A=0AJim Metzger (Capt Jimbob) will pick thi s up and take care of it for you.=0ANico=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-com mander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matron ics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:10 PM =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AHey Nico, I was about to register but it has a slot for "mem ber", how do I become one?=0ABy the way, I will have empty seats if anyone needs a ride.=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Me ssage ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: commander-list @matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:17:13 PM=0ASubject: RE: C ommander-List: Weight & Balance=0ACheck it out on the website, Donnie.=0A =0Awww.aerocommander.com=0A =0ANico=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commande r-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.c om] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:54 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balan ce=0A =0ACheers back at you big guy!=0ABy the way, has anyone seen an itene rary for the fly-in?=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Orig inal Message ----=0AFrom: W J R HAMILTON =0ATo : commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:51:39 PM =0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A=0ADonnie,=0ALikewise. =0ACheers,=0ABill Hamilton=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A=0AAt 05:39 AM 25/07/2007, you wrote:=0ADonnie,=0AI would like a copy in lbs and inches also.=0AThanks =0AJim Addington=0AN444BD=0A =0AFrom: owner- commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@ma tronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0ADonnie,=0A =0AThat spreadsheet was sent courtesy of David down-under. I'll send the copy I received to your Yahoo mail. I'm tw eaking it to read in lbs and inches...... If you want one when I'm done I'l l send it along.....=0A =0ASteve=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: Do nnie Rose =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2 007 10:57 AM=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AHey Stev e, can you please re-send, I didn't get the attachment.=0AThanks,=0AN69PT =0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0A From: "Steve @ Col-East" =0ATo: commander-list@matronics. com=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:35:47 AM=0ASubject: Re: Commander-Lis t: Weight & Balance=0ADavid,=0A =0AThe attachment worked fine. This is a re ally nice sheet! I probably wouldn't have built the graphics on my own, so I'm glad to have them. Thanks for sharing it.......=0A =0AI look forward to getting Gordon's work so I can rejigger it for our use here.=0A =0AThanks guys,=0A =0ASteve=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: David Fitzgerald =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AI don=A2t know if attachments work but this is a homemade one=0A =0ACheers=0A =0A =0A =0ADr D avid Fitzgerald=0ABMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago)=0ACASA Med ical Officer=0ADesignated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, T asair=0AZinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer=0ARegistra r in Occupational Medicine=0ADavidFitzgerald@bigpond.com=0Amob 0438 312973 =0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander -list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:58 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Command er-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AWCG, I lok fwd to seeing the sheets!=0A =0A Donnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: " cloudcraft@aol.com" =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:13:51 PM=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0ASteve,=0AWhen I was at Inter Island Air, I developed an (almost) "one sheet does all" Weight & Balance / Manifest/ Dispatch sheet for FAR 135 purposes.=0AIt is not a spread sheet but the arms are there and one can do simple math on the go -- and have the C.G. envelope tables righ t there.=0AI'm on a trip for a few days; when I get home I'll upload the te mplate for the 500 A/B/U/S.=0AWing Commander Gordon=0A =0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Steve at Col-East =0ATo: commander- list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 1:24 pm=0ASubject: Commander-Li East" =0A =0AFolks, =0A =0ABefore I go and reinvent the wheel, has anyone built a 500 series, or Commander specific spreadsheet I c an adapt? =0A =0AIf not, a good generic sheet would work just fine as a beg inning point. 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Get b etter relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check i ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:23:36 AM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: Commander-List: TCFG membership I forwarded your request for membership directly to Jim, Donnie. Could you give me more info about the empty seats, I would like to put it up on the website if you are OK with that. If your seats are filled, we can take it off again. Helpful info would be type of aircraft, number of seats, from which airfield would you be departing and time of departure; when you would be returning with time; and finally the matter of cost contribution. Thanks Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:39 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance ??? Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: nico css Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:58:42 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Jim Metzger (Capt Jimbob) will pick this up and take care of it for you. Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Hey Nico, I was about to register but it has a slot for "member", how do I become one? By the way, I will have empty seats if anyone needs a ride. Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: nico css Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:17:13 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Check it out on the website, Donnie. www.aerocommander.com Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Cheers back at you big guy! By the way, has anyone seen an itenerary for the fly-in? Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: W J R HAMILTON Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:51:39 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Donnie, Likewise. Cheers, Bill Hamilton At 05:39 AM 25/07/2007, you wrote: Donnie, I would like a copy in lbs and inches also. Thanks Jim Addington N444BD From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Donnie, That spreadsheet was sent courtesy of David down-under. I'll send the copy I received to your Yahoo mail. I'm tweaking it to read in lbs and inches...... If you want one when I'm done I'll send it along..... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Hey Steve, can you please re-send, I didn't get the attachment. Thanks, N69PT Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "Steve @ Col-East" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:35:47 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance David, The attachment worked fine. This is a really nice sheet! I probably wouldn't have built the graphics on my own, so I'm glad to have them. Thanks for sharing it....... I look forward to getting Gordon's work so I can rejigger it for our use here. Thanks guys, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: David Fitzgerald Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance I don=A2t know if attachments work but this is a homemade one Cheers Dr David Fitzgerald BMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago) CASA Medical Officer Designated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair Zinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer Registrar in Occupational Medicine DavidFitzgerald@bigpond.com mob 0438 312973 From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance WCG, I lok fwd to seeing the sheets! Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "cloudcraft@aol.com" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:13:51 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Steve, When I was at Inter Island Air, I developed an (almost) "one sheet does all" Weight & Balance / Manifest/ Dispatch sheet for FAR 135 purposes. It is not a spread sheet but the arms are there and one can do simple math on the go -- and have the C.G. envelope tables right there. I'm on a trip for a few days; when I get home I'll upload the template for the 500 A/B/U/S. Wing Commander Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Steve at Col-East Sent: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 1:24 pm Subject: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Folks, Before I go and reinvent the wheel, has anyone built a 500 series, or Commander specific spreadsheet I can adapt? If not, a good generic sheet would work just fine as a beginning point. I'll compare the end results with numerous loading scenarios we have calculated. 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Ha! roddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow">Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's upd ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:14 PM PST US From: Donnie Rose Subject: Re: Commander-List: TCFG membership Afternoon Nico, info as of now:=0A# of seats = 3-4=0ADeparture = EKY (B essemer, AL.-Birmingham area)=0ADep date = 20th- AM=0ARet date = 23- 24 th AM=0AContribution = # in plane / fuel & oil costs=0A=0AThe above dates are flexible.=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Origi nal Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: commande r-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:22:44 AM=0ASubject: Commander-List: TCFG membership=0A=0A=0AI forwarded your request for membe rship directly to Jim, Donnie. =0A =0ACould you give me more info about the empty seats, I would like to put it up on the website if you are OK with t hat. If your seats are filled, we can take it off again.=0A =0AHelpful info would be type of aircraft, number of seats, from which airfield would you be departing and time of departure; when you would be returning with time; and finally the matter of cost contribution.=0A =0AThanks=0A =0ANico=0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:ow ner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: T hursday, July 26, 2007 7:39 AM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject : Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0A???=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/4 92-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 2 5, 2007 11:58:42 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0AJim M etzger (Capt Jimbob) will pick this up and take care of it for you.=0ANico =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto :owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent : Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:10 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASub ject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AHey Nico, I was about to r egister but it has a slot for "member", how do I become one?=0ABy the way, I will have empty seats if anyone needs a ride.=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/49 2-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 25 , 2007 8:17:13 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0ACheck i t out on the website, Donnie.=0A =0Awww.aerocommander.com=0A =0ANico=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner- commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Wedne sday, July 25, 2007 5:54 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: R e: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0ACheers back at you big guy!=0ABy the way, has anyone seen an itenerary for the fly-in?=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A 205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: W J R HAMILTON < wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed nesday, July 25, 2007 6:51:39 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Ba lance=0A=0ADonnie,=0ALikewise.=0ACheers,=0ABill Hamilton=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAt 05:39 AM 25/07/2007, you wrote:=0ADonn ie,=0AI would like a copy in lbs and inches also.=0AThanks =0AJim Addington =0AN444BD=0A =0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:ow ner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East=0AS ent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0A Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0ADonnie,=0A =0AThat spre adsheet was sent courtesy of David down-under. I'll send the copy I receive d to your Yahoo mail. I'm tweaking it to read in lbs and inches...... If yo u want one when I'm done I'll send it along.....=0A =0ASteve=0A----- Origin al Message ----- =0AFrom: Donnie Rose =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:57 AM=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: We ight & Balance=0A =0AHey Steve, can you please re-send, I didn't get the at tachment.=0AThanks,=0AN69PT=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A--- -- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "Steve @ Col-East" =0ATo : commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:35:47 AM =0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0ADavid,=0A =0AThe attachm ent worked fine. This is a really nice sheet! I probably wouldn't have buil t the graphics on my own, so I'm glad to have them. Thanks for sharing it.. .....=0A =0AI look forward to getting Gordon's work so I can rejigger it fo r our use here.=0A =0AThanks guys,=0A =0ASteve=0A----- Original Message --- -- =0AFrom: David Fitzgerald =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0ASent: T hursday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Bal ance=0A =0AI don=A2t know if attachments work but this is a homemade one=0A =0ACheers=0A =0A =0A =0ADr David Fitzgerald=0ABMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACC AM DipAvMed(Otago)=0ACASA Medical Officer=0ADesignated Aviation Medical Exa miner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair=0AZinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mi ne Medical Officer=0ARegistrar in Occupational Medicine=0ADavidFitzgerald@b igpond.com=0Amob 0438 312973=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics. com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:58 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronic s.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AWCG, I lok fwd to seeing the sheets!=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Ori ginal Message ----=0AFrom: "cloudcraft@aol.com" =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:13:51 PM=0A Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0ASteve,=0AWhen I was at Inte r Island Air, I developed an (almost) "one sheet does all" Weight & Balance / Manifest/ Dispatch sheet for FAR 135 purposes.=0AIt is not a spread shee t but the arms are there and one can do simple math on the go -- and have t he C.G. envelope tables right there.=0AI'm on a trip for a few days; when I get home I'll upload the template for the 500 A/B/U/S.=0AWing Commander Go rdon=0A =0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Steve at Col-East =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 1:2 4 pm=0ASubject: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A--> Commander-List messa ge posted by: "Steve at Col-East" =0A =0AFolks, =0A =0AB efore I go and reinvent the wheel, has anyone built a 500 series, or Comman der specific spreadsheet I can adapt? =0A =0AIf not, a good gen eric sheet would work just fine as a beginning point. I'll compare the end results wit h numerous loading scenarios we have calculated. =0A =0ASteve =0A =0A =0A =0AJoin our Network=0AResearch Panel=0Atoday!=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0Avigator?Commander-List" target=_blank=0Arel=nofollo w>http://www.matronicsums.matronics.com/"=0Atarget=_blank=0Arel=nofollo w>http://forums.matronics.===============0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0AFussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. http://w ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matronics.com = ========== =0A =0ACONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEGE NOTICE =0AW.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Internet Servi ces and Warbirds.Net. & This message is intended for and should only be used by the add ressee. It is confidential and may contain legally privileged information.I f you are not the intended recipient any use distribution,disclosure or cop ying of this message is strictly prohibited.Confidentiality and legal privi lege attached to this communication are not waived or lost by reason of the mistaken delivery. =0AIf you have received this message in error, please n otify us immediately to: Australia 61 (0)408 876 526=0ADolores capitis non fero. Eos do.=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator? Commander=======0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A6/*http://travel.yahoo.com/;_ ylc=X3oDMTFhN2hucjlpBF9TAzk3NDA3NTg5BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNncm91cHMEc2xrA2VtYWlsL W5jbQ--">Get great deals to amazing places on Yahoo! Travel. =0A =0A =0A =0A mobile search=0A =0Athat gives answers, not web links. =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0Aigator?Commander-List" target=_blank rel=nofollow>htt p://www.matronics.ums.matronics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http:/ /forums.matronics.===============0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0ABoardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! =0Aroddesc?gamekey=monopolyh erenow">Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's upd=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ======0A=0A=0A =0A_________________________________________ ___________________________________________=0ATake the Internet to Go: Yaho o!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos & more. =0Ahttp:/ /mobile.yahoo.com/go?refer=1GNXIC ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:22:46 PM PST US From: Donnie Rose Subject: Re: Commander-List: TCFG membership Nico, type = 500B=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: com mander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:22:44 AM=0ASub ject: Commander-List: TCFG membership=0A=0A=0AI forwarded your request for membership directly to Jim, Donnie. =0A =0ACould you give me more info abou t the empty seats, I would like to put it up on the website if you are OK w ith that. If your seats are filled, we can take it off again.=0A =0AHelpful info would be type of aircraft, number of seats, from which airfield would you be departing and time of departure; when you would be returning with t ime; and finally the matter of cost contribution.=0A =0AThanks=0A =0ANico =0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ma ilto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0A Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:39 AM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0A Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0A???=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday , July 25, 2007 11:58:42 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance =0AJim Metzger (Capt Jimbob) will pick this up and take care of it for you. =0ANico=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose =0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:10 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.co m=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AHey Nico, I was abo ut to register but it has a slot for "member", how do I become one?=0ABy th e way, I will have empty seats if anyone needs a ride.=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday , July 25, 2007 8:17:13 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance =0ACheck it out on the website, Donnie.=0A =0Awww.aerocommander.com=0A =0AN ico=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mai lto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0AS ent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:54 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0A Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0ACheers back at you big guy!=0ABy the way, has anyone seen an itenerary for the fly-in?=0A =0ADonni e Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: W J R HAMILTON =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:51:39 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A=0ADonnie,=0ALikewise.=0ACheers,=0ABill Hamilton=0A=0A< wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au>=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAt 05:39 AM 25/07/2007, you w rote:=0ADonnie,=0AI would like a copy in lbs and inches also.=0AThanks =0AJ im Addington=0AN444BD=0A =0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM=0ATo: commander-list@matr onics.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0ADonnie,=0A =0AThat spreadsheet was sent courtesy of David down-under. I'll send the co py I received to your Yahoo mail. I'm tweaking it to read in lbs and inches ...... If you want one when I'm done I'll send it along.....=0A =0ASteve=0A ----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: Donnie Rose =0ATo: commander-list@mat ronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:57 AM=0ASubject: Re: Command er-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AHey Steve, can you please re-send, I didn't get the attachment.=0AThanks,=0AN69PT=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "Steve @ Col-East" =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5 :35:47 AM=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0ADavid,=0A =0ATh e attachment worked fine. This is a really nice sheet! I probably wouldn't have built the graphics on my own, so I'm glad to have them. Thanks for sha ring it.......=0A =0AI look forward to getting Gordon's work so I can rejig ger it for our use here.=0A =0AThanks guys,=0A =0ASteve=0A----- Original Me ssage ----- =0AFrom: David Fitzgerald =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: We ight & Balance=0A =0AI don=A2t know if attachments work but this is a homem ade one=0A =0ACheers=0A =0A =0A =0ADr David Fitzgerald=0ABMedSci(Hons) MBBS (Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago)=0ACASA Medical Officer=0ADesignated Aviation M edical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair=0AZinifex Hobart Smelter and R osebery Mine Medical Officer=0ARegistrar in Occupational Medicine=0ADavidFi tzgerald@bigpond.com=0Amob 0438 312973=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@ matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:58 PM=0ATo: commander-lis t@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AWCG, I lok fwd to seeing the sheets!=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: "cloudcraft@aol.com" =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9 :13:51 PM=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0ASteve,=0AWhen I was at Inter Island Air, I developed an (almost) "one sheet does all" Weig ht & Balance / Manifest/ Dispatch sheet for FAR 135 purposes.=0AIt is not a spread sheet but the arms are there and one can do simple math on the go - - and have the C.G. envelope tables right there.=0AI'm on a trip for a few days; when I get home I'll upload the template for the 500 A/B/U/S.=0AWing Commander Gordon=0A =0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Steve at Col- East =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 1:24 pm=0ASubject: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A--> Commande r-List message posted by: "Steve at Col-East" =0A =0AFol ks, =0A =0ABefore I go and reinvent the wheel, has anyone built a 500 serie s, or Commander specific spreadsheet I can adapt? =0A =0AIf not, a good gen eric sheet would work just fine as a beginning point. I'll compare the end results with numerous loading scenarios we have calculated. =0A =0ASteve =0A =0A =0A =0AJoin our Network=0AResearch Panel=0Atoday!=0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0Avigator?Commander-List" target=_blank=0Ar el=nofollow>http://www.matronicsums.matronics.com/"=0Atarget=_blank=0Ar el=nofollow>http://forums.matronics.============ ===0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0AFussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perf ect. http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List http://forums.matron ics.com =========== =0A =0ACONFIDENTIALITY & PRIVILEG E NOTICE =0AW.J.R.Hamilton,Glenalmond Group Companies,Fighter Flights Inter net Services and Warbirds.Net. & This message is intended for and should only be used b y the addressee. 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Travel. =0A =0A =0A =0A mobile search=0A =0Athat gives answers, not web links. =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0A =0Aigator?Commander-List" target=_blank rel=no follow>http://www.matronics.ums.matronics.com/" target=_blank rel=nofol low>http://forums.matronics.===============0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0ABoardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! =0Aroddesc?gamekey=m onopolyherenow">Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's upd=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0A =========0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________ ____________________________________________________Ready for the edge of y .com/ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:08:00 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: TCFG membership Donnie, Your information has been posted to the website www.aerocommander.com . Thank you very much. Please check that I got it right and if something is amiss, please let me know. Thanks Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:21 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: TCFG membership Afternoon Nico, info as of now: # of seats = 3-4 Departure = EKY (Bessemer, AL.-Birmingham area) Dep date = 20th- AM Ret date = 23- 24th AM Contribution = # in plane / fuel & oil costs The above dates are flexible. Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: nico css Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:22:44 AM Subject: Commander-List: TCFG membership I forwarded your request for membership directly to Jim, Donnie. Could you give me more info about the empty seats, I would like to put it up on the website if you are OK with that. If your seats are filled, we can take it off again. Helpful info would be type of aircraft, number of seats, from which airfield would you be departing and time of departure; when you would be returning with time; and finally the matter of cost contribution. Thanks Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 7:39 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance ??? Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: nico css Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 11:58:42 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Jim Metzger (Capt Jimbob) will pick this up and take care of it for you. Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Hey Nico, I was about to register but it has a slot for "member", how do I become one? By the way, I will have empty seats if anyone needs a ride. Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: nico css Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 8:17:13 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Check it out on the website, Donnie. www.aerocommander.com Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:54 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Cheers back at you big guy! By the way, has anyone seen an itenerary for the fly-in? Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: W J R HAMILTON Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 6:51:39 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Donnie, Likewise. Cheers, Bill Hamilton At 05:39 AM 25/07/2007, you wrote: Donnie, I would like a copy in lbs and inches also. Thanks Jim Addington N444BD From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Donnie, That spreadsheet was sent courtesy of David down-under. I'll send the copy I received to your Yahoo mail. I'm tweaking it to read in lbs and inches...... If you want one when I'm done I'll send it along..... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:57 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Hey Steve, can you please re-send, I didn't get the attachment. Thanks, N69PT Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "Steve @ Col-East" Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:35:47 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance David, The attachment worked fine. This is a really nice sheet! I probably wouldn't have built the graphics on my own, so I'm glad to have them. Thanks for sharing it....... I look forward to getting Gordon's work so I can rejigger it for our use here. Thanks guys, Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: David Fitzgerald Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance I don=A2t know if attachments work but this is a homemade one Cheers Dr David Fitzgerald BMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCAM DipAvMed(Otago) CASA Medical Officer Designated Aviation Medical Examiner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair Zinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Mine Medical Officer Registrar in Occupational Medicine DavidFitzgerald@bigpond.com mob 0438 312973 From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance WCG, I lok fwd to seeing the sheets! Donnie Rose 205/492-8444 ----- Original Message ---- From: "cloudcraft@aol.com" Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:13:51 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Steve, When I was at Inter Island Air, I developed an (almost) "one sheet does all" Weight & Balance / Manifest/ Dispatch sheet for FAR 135 purposes. It is not a spread sheet but the arms are there and one can do simple math on the go -- and have the C.G. envelope tables right there. I'm on a trip for a few days; when I get home I'll upload the template for the 500 A/B/U/S. Wing Commander Gordon -----Original Message----- From: Steve at Col-East Sent: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 1:24 pm Subject: Commander-List: Weight & Balance Folks, Before I go and reinvent the wheel, has anyone built a 500 series, or Commander specific spreadsheet I can adapt? If not, a good gen eric sheet would work just fine as a beginning point. I'll compare the end results with numerous loading scenarios we have calculated. 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Please check that I got it right and if something is amiss, please let me know.=0AThanks=0ANico=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list- server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 12:21 PM=0ATo: comman der-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: TCFG membership=0A =0AAfternoon Nico, info as of now:=0A# of seats = 3-4=0ADeparture = EKY ( Bessemer , AL.-Birmingham area)=0ADep date = 20th- AM=0ARet date = 2 3- 24th AM=0AContribution = # in plane / fuel & oil costs=0A =0AThe above dates are flexible.=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Orig inal Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: command er-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, July 26, 2007 11:22:44 AM=0ASubject : Commander-List: TCFG membership=0AI forwarded your request for membership directly to Jim, Donnie. =0A =0ACould you give me more info about the empt y seats, I would like to put it up on the website if you are OK with that. If your seats are filled, we can take it off again.=0A =0AHelpful info woul d be type of aircraft, number of seats, from which airfield would you be de parting and time of departure; when you would be returning with time; and f inally the matter of cost contribution.=0A =0AThanks=0A =0ANico=0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-c ommander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Thursd ay, July 26, 2007 7:39 AM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0A???=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-84 44=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 20 07 11:58:42 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0AJim Metzge r (Capt Jimbob) will pick this up and take care of it for you.=0ANico=0A =0A =0A=0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:own er-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: We dnesday, July 25, 2007 7:10 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject : Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AHey Nico, I was about to regis ter but it has a slot for "member", how do I become one?=0ABy the way, I wi ll have empty seats if anyone needs a ride.=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-84 44=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: nico css =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 25, 20 07 8:17:13 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0ACheck it ou t on the website, Donnie.=0A =0Awww.aerocommander.com=0A =0ANico=0A =0A =0A =0A=0A=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-comm ander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Wednesday , July 25, 2007 5:54 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: C ommander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0ACheers back at you big guy!=0ABy the way, has anyone seen an itenerary for the fly-in?=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/ 492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Original Message ----=0AFrom: W J R HAMILTON =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesd ay, July 25, 2007 6:51:39 PM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balanc e=0A=0ADonnie,=0ALikewise.=0ACheers,=0ABill Hamilton=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAt 05:39 AM 25/07/2007, you wrote:=0ADonnie, =0AI would like a copy in lbs and inches also.=0AThanks =0AJim Addington=0A N444BD=0A =0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [ mailto:owner -commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East=0ASent : Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:10 AM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASub ject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0ADonnie,=0A =0AThat spreads heet was sent courtesy of David down-under. I'll send the copy I received t o your Yahoo mail. I'm tweaking it to read in lbs and inches...... If you w ant one when I'm done I'll send it along.....=0A =0ASteve=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: Donnie Rose =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0AS ent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 10:57 AM=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AHey Steve, can you please re-send, I didn't get the attach ment.=0AThanks,=0AN69PT=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- O riginal Message ----=0AFrom: "Steve @ Col-East" =0ATo: co mmander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 5:35:47 AM=0ASub ject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0ADavid,=0A =0AThe attachment wo rked fine. This is a really nice sheet! I probably wouldn't have built the graphics on my own, so I'm glad to have them. Thanks for sharing it....... =0A =0AI look forward to getting Gordon's work so I can rejigger it for our use here.=0A =0AThanks guys,=0A =0ASteve=0A----- Original Message ----- =0AFrom: David Fitzgerald =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thur sday, July 19, 2007 12:04 AM=0ASubject: RE: Commander-List: Weight & Balanc e=0A =0AI don=A2t know if attachments work but this is a homemade one=0A =0ACheers=0A =0A =0A =0ADr David Fitzgerald=0ABMedSci(Hons) MBBS(Hons) ACCA M DipAvMed(Otago)=0ACASA Medical Officer=0ADesignated Aviation Medical Exam iner and Commercial Pilot, Tasair=0AZinifex Hobart Smelter and Rosebery Min e Medical Officer=0ARegistrar in Occupational Medicine=0ADavidFitzgerald@bi gpond.com=0Amob 0438 312973=0AFrom: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.c om [ mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Donnie Rose=0ASent: Thursday, July 19, 2007 1:58 PM=0ATo: commander-list@matronics .com=0ASubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A =0AWCG, I lok fwd t o seeing the sheets!=0A =0ADonnie Rose =0A205/492-8444=0A =0A =0A----- Orig inal Message ----=0AFrom: "cloudcraft@aol.com" =0ATo: c ommander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 9:13:51 PM=0AS ubject: Re: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0ASteve,=0AWhen I was at Inter Island Air, I developed an (almost) "one sheet does all" Weight & Balance / Manifest/ Dispatch sheet for FAR 135 purposes.=0AIt is not a spread sheet but the arms are there and one can do simple math on the go -- and have th e C.G. envelope tables right there.=0AI'm on a trip for a few days; when I get home I'll upload the template for the 500 A/B/U/S.=0AWing Commander Gor don=0A =0A =0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: Steve at Col-East =0ATo: commander-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 1:24 pm=0ASubject: Commander-List: Weight & Balance=0A--> Commander-List messag e posted by: "Steve at Col-East" =0A =0AFolks, =0A =0ABe fore I go and reinvent the wheel, has anyone built a 500 series, or Command er specific spreadsheet I can adapt? =0A =0AIf not, a good gen eric sheet w ould work just fine as a beginning point. 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