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Thu 08/09/07


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     1. 04:44 AM - Re: 500A (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
     2. 04:59 AM - Re: 500A ()
     3. 06:15 AM - Re: Help Wanted: Cheyenne 400LS Pilot (Kerry Johnson)
     4. 09:27 AM - Re: 500A (Robert S. Randazzo)
     5. 09:35 AM - Re: 500A (Craig Lundborg)
     6. 10:05 AM - Re: 500A (Bruce Campbell)
     7. 10:12 AM - Re: 500A (David Owens)
     8. 10:27 AM - Re: 500A (David Owens)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:44:32 AM PST US
    From: MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala@MSN.COM>
    Subject: 500A
    bb, please! mason From: bowing74@earthlink.netTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Co mmander-List: 500ADate: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 19:15:41 -0400 I=92ll consider it. bb From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico cssSent: Wednesday, August 08, 20 07 5:29 PMTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Commander-List: 500A Bilbo, Would you be kind enough to write down your experience? ' pulling no punc hes. It=92s refreshing for any group to hear critique and encouragement, it =92s how things get better, otherwise we will, no doubt, repeat our mistake s and, perhaps unwittingly, ignore our strengths. Thanks Nico From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill BowSent: Wednesday, August 08, 20 07 1:39 PMTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Commander-List: 500A THAT=92S ME!! SUMP, SUMP,SUMP, SUMP, SUMP,SUMP, SUMP, SUMP,SUMP Love it. bilbo From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-lis t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry CollmanSent: Wednesday, August 0 8, 2007 4:33 PMTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Commander-List: 500A Hey! We're not going to miss him that much - didn't Bilbo start the sump sa ga? Well, OK, I suppose we will. Good Luck Bilbo! Best Regards, Barry ----- Original Message ----- From: cloudcraft@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 9:23 PM Subject: [Norton AntiSpam] Re: Commander-List: 500A Bilbo,I'm going to miss your insightful and smart ass contributions to the list. Don't stray too far; you do have information and opinions to pass al ong.Where is your plane going? It's always good to know where the distress calls are likely to come from.Wing Commander Gordon -----Original Message-----From: Bill Bow <bowing74@earthlink.net>To: comman der-list@matronics.comSent: Wed, 8 Aug 2007 11:56 amSubject: Commander-List : 500A Well, it is finished. As of Monday I became an ex-Commander owner. I wish my 500A had been what it was represented as when I bought it as I would st ill own it today. I had written up a long diatribe, venting my anger and disgust with a few o f those involved in the Commander community. However, I have decided it wo uld be counterproductive, and nobody really gives a s---- anyway. I have m ade a lot of good friends on this list some that I will probably never meet . I do believe there are a lot more good guys here than =93gold diggers=94. I will always remember the supportive words of one person on this list =93C ommander ownership is not for everybody=94. Well, it=92s not for me. Cheers, Bill Bow ========== or?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List ========== p://forums.matronics.com ========== <hr size=2 width="100%" align=center> ="_blank">AOL.com. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander- List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhref="http://forum s.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 04:59:39 AM PST US
    From: <dfalik@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: 500A
    BB, I, too, would be very interested in your experiences with your 500A. As a "new" owner of a 500S (3 years), I too have had my ups and downs. I just figured that it was the nature of airplane ownership. Don Falik -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Girod Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500A Well, it is finished. As of Monday I became an ex-Commander owner. I wish my 500A had been what it was represented as when I bought it as I would still own it today. I had written up a long diatribe, venting my anger and disgust with a few of those involved in the Commander community. However, I have decided it would be counterproductive, and nobody really gives a s---- anyway. I have made a lot of good friends on this list some that I will probably never meet. I do believe there are a lot more good guys here than "gold diggers". I will always remember the supportive words of one person on this list "Commander ownership is not for everybody". Well, it's not for me. Cheers, Bill Bow Bill; You are fortunate in that you still get to sit in the big bird and fly. It was when I could no longer do that, that I bought my Commander. I too am sorry you did not have a good experience, so far, mine has been just what I had hoped for, my problem is I don't go fly enough. However, we all see some frustration on the list with older airplanes and hard to get parts, thankfully, the knowledge is in someone's head. I would only slightly change your supportive words to this, "Commander ownership is not for everybody, but it should be". Keep the shinny side up, Don href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _____


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    Time: 06:15:16 AM PST US
    From: "Kerry Johnson" <kerry@kvelectric.com>
    Subject: Help Wanted: Cheyenne 400LS Pilot
    That's' right, you never know what's around the corner. I realize this isn't the best forum to find a pilot, but you never know who may be looking or who may know someone that's looking for that type of work. KV Electric, INC. Kerry Johnson, President 1139 North 1210 West St. George, UT 84770 (435) 673-4696 Office (435) 673-4731 Fax _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 11:30 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Help Wanted: Cheyenne 400LS Pilot I am a subscriber to "Rush in a hurry" and it's mentioned there. I'll check out Rush's website; perhaps a name is dropped. Who knows. _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:51 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Help Wanted: Cheyenne 400LS Pilot I heard that guy too. I sent an email to Rush, but I'll be real surprised if I get any response, he says he gets 10,000 emails a day. KV Electric, INC. Kerry Johnson, President 1139 North 1210 West St. George, UT 84770 (435) 673-4696 Office (435) 673-4731 Fax _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 3:32 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Help Wanted: Cheyenne 400LS Pilot A retired B777 pilot's looking for a job. I heard him call Rush today. Perhaps Rush's people could put you onto him. He got screwed by his union which reduced his pension by some gadawful amount and now he must go back to the left seat. _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kerry Johnson Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 2:20 PM Subject: Commander-List: Help Wanted: Cheyenne 400LS Pilot Hi Guys: Wow, what a trial this has been tying to buy a good Turboprop airplane. We thought we had a nice Twin Commander 1000, a few months ago, but the owner backed out. Then we looked at some different jets and we ended up buying N46FD which is a Piper Cheyenne LS400. http://www.aso.com/i.aso3/aircraft_view.jsp?aircraft_id=105278 <http://www.aso.com/i.aso3/aircraft_view.jsp?aircraft_id=105278&return_url=/ i.aso3/search.jspyyyyyiaso3sid=1xxxxxsearchid=12498766xxxxxtypeid=3xxxxxmmgi d=9xxxxxmodelgroup=truexxxxxsearchid=12498766xxxxxregionid=-1> &return_url=/i.aso3/search.jspyyyyyiaso3sid=1xxxxxsearchid=12498766xxxxxtype id=3xxxxxmmgid=9xxxxxmodelgroup=truexxxxxsearchid=12498766xxxxxregionid=-1 It's back in CT and I'm going to go get it and bring it back home SGU on Monday, so I should be back sometime early next week. I'll check in and let you know how it flies when I get back and get settled. We are also looking to hire a pilot besides me to fly the plane so if you know anyone that would be good, please have them contact me Thanks! KV Electric, INC. Kerry Johnson, President 1139 North 1210 West St. George, UT 84770 (435) 673-4696 Office (435) 673-4731 Fax


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    Time: 09:27:39 AM PST US
    From: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
    Subject: 500A
    Bill- I'll add to the calls to hear your experience! I spend quite a bit of time reading NTSB summaries to learn from the mistakes of other commander pilots- there are a number of us who weren't here to know of your experience- and we could certainly benefit from it. My commander experience has been mostly negatives. I'm hoping to trump that today with a return to flight for N414C. Stay tuned. Robert Randazzo From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dfalik@sbcglobal.net Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 5:01 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: 500A BB, I, too, would be very interested in your experiences with your 500A. As a "new" owner of a 500S (3 years), I too have had my ups and downs. I just figured that it was the nature of airplane ownership. Don Falik -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Girod Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 10:56 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500A Well, it is finished. As of Monday I became an ex-Commander owner. I wish my 500A had been what it was represented as when I bought it as I would still own it today. I had written up a long diatribe, venting my anger and disgust with a few of those involved in the Commander community. However, I have decided it would be counterproductive, and nobody really gives a s---- anyway. I have made a lot of good friends on this list some that I will probably never meet. I do believe there are a lot more good guys here than "gold diggers". I will always remember the supportive words of one person on this list "Commander ownership is not for everybody". Well, it's not for me. Cheers, Bill Bow Bill; You are fortunate in that you still get to sit in the big bird and fly. It was when I could no longer do that, that I bought my Commander. I too am sorry you did not have a good experience, so far, mine has been just what I had hoped for, my problem is I don't go fly enough. However, we all see some frustration on the list with older airplanes and hard to get parts, thankfully, the knowledge is in someone's head. I would only slightly change your supportive words to this, "Commander ownership is not for everybody, but it should be". Keep the shinny side up, Don href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com _____ - The Commander-List Email Forum - --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List - NEW MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - --> http://forums.matronics.com __________ NOD32 2447 (20070809) Information __________


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    Time: 09:35:46 AM PST US
    From: Craig Lundborg <dltafolk@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: 500A
    Sorry to hear about the bad experiance...I just sold mine as the fuel bills for one or two people just don't pencil out as I make a couple of 700 mile trips a month...dearly miss my bird...I did get lucky and stumbled on to a reasonable mechanic at RDD...Mark at Aircraft inspection service kept her in great shape without breaking the bank...one day I will have another...ma ybe I could talk my wife into a second job???=0A=0ACraig=0A=0A=0A----- Orig inal Message ----=0AFrom: Don Girod <DonGirod@bellsouth.net>=0ATo: commande r-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 7:56:23 PM=0ASubject : Re: Commander-List: 500A=0A=0A=0A =0A =0A=0A=0AWell, it is finished. As of Monday I became an ex-Commander owner. I wish my 500A had been what it was represented as when I bought it as I would still own it today.=0AI had written up a long diatribe, venting my anger and disgust with a few of thos e involved in the Commander community. However, I have decided it would be counterproductive, and nobody really gives a s---- anyway. I have made a lot of good friends on this list some that I will probably never meet. I do believe there are a lot more good guys here than =93gold diggers=94.=0AI w ill always remember the supportive words of one person on this list =93Comm ander ownership is not for everybody=94.=0AWell, it=92s not for me.=0ACheer s,=0ABill Bow=0ABill;=0AYou are fortunate in that you still get to sit in t he big bird and fly. It was when I could no longer do that, that I bought my Commander. =0AI too am sorry you did not have a good experience, so far , mine has been just what I had hoped for, my problem is I don't go fly eno ugh. =0AHowever, we all see some frustration on the list with older airplan es and hard to get parts, thankfully, the knowledge is in someone's head. =0AI would only slightly change your supportive words to this, "Commander o wnership is not for everybody, but it should be".=0AKeep the shinny side up ,=0ADon=0A=0Ahref="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">htt p://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List=0Ahref="http://forums.matr onics.com">http://forums.matronics.com=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ADate: 8/7/2007 4:06 PM ====


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    Time: 10:05:17 AM PST US
    From: Bruce Campbell <brcamp@windows.microsoft.com>
    Subject: Re: 500A
    My, and I suspect most people's problems seem to fall into at least some of these catagories: incompetent , dishonest, or commander unfamiliar mechanics lack of Stcs for key systems like brakes and autopilots lack of good instruction in type difficulty in insuring an "old plane". fuel cost of a twin The ups so far seem to have been: great plane. Strong, handles well, carries lots. excellent support from Tc and TCFG bruce -----Original Message----- From: "Craig Lundborg"<dltafolk@sbcglobal.net> Sent: 8/9/07 9:47:56 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500A Sorry to hear about the bad experiance...I just sold mine as the fuel bills for one or two people just don't pencil out as I make a couple of 700 mile trips a month...dearly miss my bird...I did get lucky and stumbled on to a reasonable mechanic at RDD...Mark at Aircraft inspection service kept her in great shape without breaking the bank...one day I will have another...maybe I could talk my wife into a second job??? Craig ----- Original Message ---- From: Don Girod <DonGirod@bellsouth.net> Sent: Wednesday, August 8, 2007 7:56:23 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: 500A Well, it is finished. As of Monday I became an ex-Commander owner. I wish my 500A had been what it was represented as when I bought it as I would still own it today. I had written up a long diatribe, venting my anger and disgust with a few of those involved in the Commander community. However, I have decided it would be counterproductive, and nobody really gives a s---- anyway. I have made a lot of good friends on this list some that I will probably never meet. I do believe there are a lot more good guys here than gold diggers. I will always remember the supportive words of one person on this list Commander ownership is not for everybody. Well, its not for me. Cheers, Bill Bow Bill; You are fortunate in that you still get to sit in the big bird and fly. It was when I could no longer do that, that I bought my Commander. I too am sorry you did not have a good experience, so far, mine has been just what I had hoped for, my problem is I don't go fly enough. However, we all see some frustration on the list with older airplanes and hard to get parts, thankfully, the knowledge is in someone's head. I would only slightly change your supportive words to this, "Commander ownership is not for everybody, but it should be". Keep the shinny side up, Don href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com


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    Time: 10:12:19 AM PST US
    From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
    Subject: Re: 500A
    Dont go away because of some bad fruit. We love our 500A, and I am sure you felt the same about yours. Not too many of them left you know... David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill


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    Time: 10:27:58 AM PST US
    From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
    Subject: Re: 500A
    Not sure how to take that off the list... ??? David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill




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