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1. 07:16 AM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (David Owens)
2. 08:05 AM - prop spinner for a 680 commander (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
3. 08:54 AM - Re: prop spinner for a 680 commander (Moe - Ross Racing Pistons)
4. 10:30 AM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (Don Girod)
5. 10:45 AM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (BertBerry1@aol.com)
6. 10:48 AM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (CloudCraft@aol.com)
7. 11:00 AM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (Steve at Col-East)
8. 11:19 AM - Re: prop spinner for a 680 commander (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
9. 12:38 PM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (Barry Collman)
10. 12:46 PM - Re: prop spinner for a 680 commander (Moe - Ross Racing Pistons)
11. 12:48 PM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (CloudCraft@aol.com)
12. 12:58 PM - Re: prop spinner for a 680 commander (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
13. 01:22 PM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (Barry Collman)
14. 01:29 PM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (CloudCraft@aol.com)
15. 01:37 PM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (Barry Collman)
16. 01:39 PM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (Barry Collman)
17. 02:01 PM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (CloudCraft@aol.com)
18. 04:36 PM - Re: prop spinner for a 680 commander (Moe - Ross Racing Pistons)
19. 07:13 PM - Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (N395V)
20. 08:05 PM - Re: Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY (skyhawkc-172@comcast.net)
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
Thats the JATO outlet...
David Owens
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| Subject: | prop spinner for a 680 commander |
Hello Guys, looking for a prop spinner for my 680. I have the Metzger STC
prop conversion ( three blade spinner only). Do appreciate your help. Gil
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| Subject: | prop spinner for a 680 commander |
Hi Gill,
I have a spare spinner for my 680F(p) with three blade props. If they are
the same, we can probably do something.
Regards,
Moe
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Subject: Commander-List: prop spinner for a 680 commander
Hello Guys, looking for a prop spinner for my 680. I have the Metzger STC
prop conversion ( three blade spinner only). Do appreciate your help. Gil
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
JB;
My commander is a '57 560E, and the front of the eng.cowl is much
different than the picture. Also in the picture I notice what looks
like a small possible intake hole above and slightly ahead of the cowl
door. My 560E does not have either one of these. Also curious as to
what the item is directly to the rear the cockpit door handle on the
fuselage?
Don
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From: yourtcfg@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
Looks like a 560A to me. It is a 560A, E or a 680. Notice it has
what appears to be a cowl flap on the LH engine nacelle?? jb
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From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
Hi Bert,
I've sent the seller a question, asking what the Serial Number is.
Best Regards,
Barry
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From: BertBerry1@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
Anyone have any idea which one this is. It is obviously not a
Shrike.
Thanks,
Bert
http://cgi.ebay.com/shrike-aero-commander_W0QQitemZ250156694670QQihZ015QQ
categoryZ2563QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
I got a response from the seller, he/she said that all they knew is that it
was a 1958 Shrike.... and that it needed alot of work. They did promise to get
back to me with more info shortly. As soon as I get that I'll let you know.
Bert
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
In a message dated 21-Aug-07 10:32:34 Pacific Daylight Time,
DonGirod@bellsouth.net writes:
My commander is a '57 560E, and the front of the eng.cowl is much different
than the picture. Also in the picture I notice what looks like a small
possible intake hole above and slightly ahead of the cowl door. My 560E does not
have either one of these. Also curious as to what the item is directly to the
rear the cockpit door handle on the fuselage?
Don, All,
Just to throw this into a spin ... at the Nashville TCFG Fly-In (1997 I
think) Gary Gadberry presented a slide show on the AirCenter Shrike Conversions.
Just to stump the experts, he showed what turned out to be an AC-500, but
with so many mods, it was difficult to know that right away.
The AC-500 in his show was camouflaged by a Shrike nose, eyebrow windows,
front door, 3 blade props, square rudder cap and perhaps tail stinger. (It also
had a round nose tire, but it appears to have since been replaced with a
semi-square one.)
I wonder if this is that plane?
The gizmo on the nacelle may be an ice detection light.
The doo-dad aft of the door frame may be a logo plaque.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
A little odd that it's listed as a battery operated radio controlled
aircraft. Maybe that explains the cowling? Good news is that it's Almost
Ready to Fly!
A couple pieces of balsa and a new shrink covering should fix that wind
damage right up.
Bet the batteries will be expensive.
Caveat emptor.......
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From: Don Girod
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:28 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
JB;
My commander is a '57 560E, and the front of the eng.cowl is much
different than the picture. Also in the picture I notice what looks
like a small possible intake hole above and slightly ahead of the cowl
door. My 560E does not have either one of these. Also curious as to
what the item is directly to the rear the cockpit door handle on the
fuselage?
Don
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From: yourtcfg@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
Looks like a 560A to me. It is a 560A, E or a 680. Notice it has
what appears to be a cowl flap on the LH engine nacelle?? jb
-----Original Message-----
From: Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 2:14 pm
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
Hi Bert,
I've sent the seller a question, asking what the Serial Number is.
Best Regards,
Barry
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From: BertBerry1@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 9:43 PM
Subject: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
Anyone have any idea which one this is. It is obviously not a
Shrike.
Thanks,
Bert
http://cgi.ebay.com/shrike-aero-commander_W0QQitemZ250156694670QQihZ015QQ
categoryZ2563QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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Date: 8/19/2007 7:27 AM
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| Subject: | Re: prop spinner for a 680 commander |
Moe, how much do you want for the spinner? Thanks Gil
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
Hello All,
I was on the verge of suggesting exactly what our excellent Wing
Commander came up with - that the Commander in question was a Model 500,
Serial Number 639, when the eBay seller sent me an email confirming that
the Commander being offered is indeed this aircraft.
I was also going to suggest the nacelle 'gizmo' was an ice detection
light.
Anyway, this is a unique Model 500, for which I have traced the
following modifications:
Lycoming IO-540-A1A5 turbocharged engines, with Hartzell
HC-A3VK-2B/7636D 3-blade props (STC SA257CE)
Engines installed in March 1964, STC issued July 1964, through Riley
Aeronautics Corp., in Fort Lauderdale.
mtow increased to 6,500lb from 6,000lb (STC SA377SO) - Sep67
'Shrike' tail cone assembly (STC SA3476WE) - Jun95
'Shrike' vertical tip assembly (STC SA3492WE) - Jun95
Miller nose cone (STC SA 585SW) - Jul95
Cockpit overhead windows (STC SA3516WE) - Jul95
I've found no record of when the front cabin door was installed though.
Last known owner:
D Wayne Durham, of Easley, SC (which ties-in with the Email address on
eBay, and its location).
Best Regards,
Barry
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From: CloudCraft@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 6:47 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
In a message dated 21-Aug-07 10:32:34 Pacific Daylight Time,
DonGirod@bellsouth.net writes:
My commander is a '57 560E, and the front of the eng.cowl is much
different than the picture. Also in the picture I notice what looks
like a small possible intake hole above and slightly ahead of the cowl
door. My 560E does not have either one of these. Also curious as to
what the item is directly to the rear the cockpit door handle on the
fuselage?
Don, All,
Just to throw this into a spin ... at the Nashville TCFG Fly-In (1997
I think) Gary Gadberry presented a slide show on the AirCenter Shrike
Conversions.
Just to stump the experts, he showed what turned out to be an AC-500,
but with so many mods, it was difficult to know that right away.
The AC-500 in his show was camouflaged by a Shrike nose, eyebrow
windows, front door, 3 blade props, square rudder cap and perhaps tail
stinger. (It also had a round nose tire, but it appears to have since
been replaced with a semi-square one.)
I wonder if this is that plane?
The gizmo on the nacelle may be an ice detection light.
The doo-dad aft of the door frame may be a logo plaque.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | prop spinner for a 680 commander |
Gil,
If memory serves correctly I paid $ 350.00 each for them, several years ago
and obviously don't want to loose money. I have two, one is polished and
the other is hard anodized a really ugly Army green. Both appear to be in
very good condition, although, the green one appears to be a little bit
thicker around the screw holes, because it has not been polished. Your
choice $ 350.00. Where do you live? Finding a good box to ship in might be
a little bit of a problem.
Moe
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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: prop spinner for a 680 commander
Moe, how much do you want for the spinner? Thanks Gil
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
In a message dated 21-Aug-07 12:39:36 Pacific Daylight Time,
barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
I was also going to suggest the nacelle 'gizmo' was an ice detection light.
That makes me feel a wee bit more secure, Sir Barry!
Thanks for the data on this very unique airplane. Someone should really
contact the eBay seller and have them clean up their ad.
Sir Barry, would you consent to having the details in your post uploaded to
the eBay seller?
For the sake of accuracy -- not to mention the value should go up -- I think
this information should appear on eBay.
Cheers,
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: prop spinner for a 680 commander |
Moe, Before you ship the spinner, I need to make sure it fits the Metzger
STS conversion ( Three Bladed Prop. Is it the larger spinner(more than 14 inches
and can the thicker one be polished up? Thanks Gil p.s. My address is as
follows: Gil Walker 6104 Belle Rive Dr. Brentwood, Tn 37027 Trl. 615-373-5703
Cell 615-310 5030. If you will e-mail me your number I will call you and
discuss. Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
Hi Keith,
I have emailed Mr Durham again and suggested his Commander should not be
advertised as a "1958 shrike aero commander", but a "1958 Model 500 Aero
Commander, incorporating some 'Shrike' mods" or similar.
It is s/n 639 (the 5th Model 500 built) and has been registered as
N6226B since initially Certificated on July 29th 1958.
(Damn! Forgot to send it a 40th Birthday card).
I also suggested he list the mods I know about (there may be others I'm
not aware of) in his 'Description'.
I also asked:
If the logs he has indicate when the front cabin door was installed (if
he has any logs, of course).
If he has been given any quotes for getting the aircraft repaired and
airworthy.
I noticed in its history (I have 76 records) that it was damaged on July
26th 1996 at Lafayette-Barwick Airport, Georgia.
Turns out it was struck by another Commander 500 that had suffered a
failed engine-driven hydraulic pump during taxi out.
Pressure was therefore lost as a right hand turn was in progress and
although an attempt was made to center the nosewheel and stop the
aircraft using the emergency hand-operated pump, the attempt failed and
the Commander parked next to it was struck.
Was repaired on August 14th 1996.
I have no data on the wind damage.
Very Best Regards,
Barry
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From: CloudCraft@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 8:47 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
In a message dated 21-Aug-07 12:39:36 Pacific Daylight Time,
barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
I was also going to suggest the nacelle 'gizmo' was an ice detection
light.
That makes me feel a wee bit more secure, Sir Barry!
Thanks for the data on this very unique airplane. Someone should
really contact the eBay seller and have them clean up their ad.
Sir Barry, would you consent to having the details in your post
uploaded to the eBay seller?
For the sake of accuracy -- not to mention the value should go up -- I
think this information should appear on eBay.
Cheers,
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
In a message dated 21-Aug-07 13:23:31 Pacific Daylight Time, barry.coll
man@air-britain.co.uk writes:
It is s/n 639 (the 5th Model 500 built) and has been registered as N6226B
since initially Certificated on July 29th 1958.
(Damn! Forgot to send it a 40th Birthday card).
Thanks for sending the note to the eBay seller.
"Leave it to a Brit to teach us our own history." ... Spaulding Gray
Not to worry about the birthday card.
Remember we're - GMT here in the Colonies: it's only 2007, so we won't
expect 40th birthday wishes until then.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
Hi Keith,
The date 'error' was simply a test to see if anyone reads my postings.
(Gosh, that tongue really hurts against my cheek ..... and goodness me,
why does my face look so red?)
Streuth! I know time flies, but to think it was next year already
.......... unforgivable.
Now, where are my tablets.
Best Regards,
Barry
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Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
In a message dated 21-Aug-07 13:23:31 Pacific Daylight Time,
barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
It is s/n 639 (the 5th Model 500 built) and has been registered as
N6226B since initially Certificated on July 29th 1958.
(Damn! Forgot to send it a 40th Birthday card).
Thanks for sending the note to the eBay seller.
"Leave it to a Brit to teach us our own history." ... Spaulding Gray
Not to worry about the birthday card.
Remember we're - GMT here in the Colonies: it's only 2007, so we won't
expect 40th birthday wishes until then.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
Hi Keith,
OK - so you spotted the year error. It's 2007, not 2008.
But, I caught you out - it will be its 50th next year, not 40th.
So, I was right it the first place, I did forget its 40th birthday.
Won't forget its 50th though ;-)
Now, where's my other tablets.
Best Regards,
Barry
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From: CloudCraft@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 9:28 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY
In a message dated 21-Aug-07 13:23:31 Pacific Daylight Time,
barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
It is s/n 639 (the 5th Model 500 built) and has been registered as
N6226B since initially Certificated on July 29th 1958.
(Damn! Forgot to send it a 40th Birthday card).
Thanks for sending the note to the eBay seller.
"Leave it to a Brit to teach us our own history." ... Spaulding Gray
Not to worry about the birthday card.
Remember we're - GMT here in the Colonies: it's only 2007, so we won't
expect 40th birthday wishes until then.
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
In a message dated 21-Aug-07 13:41:02 Pacific Daylight Time,
barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk writes:
Now, where's my other tablets.
On top of Mount Sinai, I believe, Sir!
Wing Commander Gordon
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| Subject: | prop spinner for a 680 commander |
The phone number here at my office is 310.536.0100. Be sure to tell our
receptionist that you are "from the airport" otherwise you will get the
third degree.
Regards,
Moe
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WINGFLYER1@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:58 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: prop spinner for a 680 commander
Moe, Before you ship the spinner, I need to make sure it fits the Metzger
STS conversion ( Three Bladed Prop. Is it the larger spinner(more than 14
inches and can the thicker one be polished up? Thanks Gil p.s. My address is
as follows: Gil Walker 6104 Belle Rive Dr. Brentwood, Tn 37027 Trl.
615-373-5703 Cell 615-310 5030. If you will e-mail me your number I will
call you and discuss. Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
Contacted the guy selling the plane. He is adamant it is a SHRIKE.
Guess there is no arguing with someone who doesn't know what they do not know.
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| Subject: | Re: AERO COMMANDER FORSALE ON EBAY |
Bert,
Definately a rare & interesting bird, but not a shrike.
Are those cowl flaps, maybe due to the addition of the Rayjays...?
Can anyone get better pics & post here?
Brent - N224HA
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<DIV>Definately a rare & interesting bird, but not a shrike. </DIV>
<DIV>Are those cowl flaps, maybe due to the addition of the Rayjays...?</DIV>
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<DIV>Can anyone get better pics & post here?</DIV>
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<DIV>Brent - N224HA</DIV>
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