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1. 06:30 AM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/22/07 (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
2. 08:17 AM - 2007 TCFG Fky-In (yourtcfg@aol.com)
3. 08:31 AM - Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In (Moe - Ross Racing Pistons)
4. 09:35 AM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/22/07 (David Owens)
5. 11:27 AM - Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In (John Vormbaum)
6. 12:07 PM - Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In (nico css)
7. 12:18 PM - Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In (yourtcfg@aol.com)
8. 01:05 PM - Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In (John Vormbaum)
9. 05:08 PM - Fw: Follow up (yourtcfg@aol.com)
10. 11:17 PM - Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In (brent-mueller@comcast.net)
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Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/22/07 |
all at T82, enjoyed it, hope everyone had a safe trip home. I look forward
to next year. sorry i missed the festivities of sat. nt. mason
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What a TERRIFIC group of people. Teresa and I had such a great time.
Thanks to all
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Subject: | 2007 TCFG Fky-In |
Despite some weather delays (2 hour stopoever in Durango, Colorado waiting for
a storm to pass through and a lot of flying around stuff) we made it home in time
to have a late dinner and sleep in our own bed lat night.? Total trip time
was around 13 hours with about 9.5 hours of flying time.? Had to make an extra
fuel stop one hour from home.? The old gal ran well all the way and Russel (from
Australia) was able to get a good bit of flying time from the captain seat!?
Richard, the other ozzie flew it most of the way to T82.? Wonderful to have
them on board with us.?
We want to thank all of you who took time out of your busy schedules to attend
the event.? We enjoyed seeing old commander friends and meeting new ones. As Dan
said, it is a terrific group of people who not only fly great airplanes, but
know how to have fun.?
For those of you who missed the event you missed out on a fantastic venue -- the
Hangar Hotel is truely someplace every pilot should visit.? There were 14 beautiful
looking tall-tailed birds sitting on the ramp right outside the hotel
entrance and approximately 40 people in attendance!? Not only that, there were
great speakers and a visit to the Pacific War museum where we witnessed a re-enactment
of a Pacific War battle.? And, as always the auction was lots of fun
with a few practical jokes thrown in!? Barry Collman, our historian came prepared
and entertained us with a litany of jokes during the event (thanks Barry).?
Make plans to attend next year as it will be the 60th anniversary of the flight
of the prototye Commander and it would be wonderful to fill the ramp up with
Commanders.? We're in the initial stages of planning and getting permission,
etc., but hoping we'll be able to hold it in Oklahoma City (Wiley Post), the
birthplace of the Commander.?
Anyway, thanks again to all who attended and we look forward to seeing the rest
of you next year.?
Cheers,
Jim & Sue Metzger
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Subject: | 2007 TCFG Fky-In |
Sue and Jim
(Notice I put her name first). Thanks for a great get together!
I was home yesterday about 1:30. Had to go up to 20,000 feet just east of
Tucson for weather.
Moe
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Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 8:17 AM
Subject: Commander-List: 2007 TCFG Fky-In
Despite some weather delays (2 hour stopoever in Durango, Colorado waiting
for a storm to pass through and a lot of flying around stuff) we made it
home in time to have a late dinner and sleep in our own bed lat night.
Total trip time was around 13 hours with about 9.5 hours of flying time.
Had to make an extra fuel stop one hour from home. The old gal ran well all
the way and Russel (from Australia) was able to get a good bit of flying
time from the captain seat! Richard, the other ozzie flew it most of the
way to T82. Wonderful to have them on board with us.
We want to thank all of you who took time out of your busy schedules to
attend the event. We enjoyed seeing old commander friends and meeting new
ones. As Dan said, it is a terrific group of people who not only fly great
airplanes, but know how to have fun.
For those of you who missed the event you missed out on a fantastic venue --
the Hangar Hotel is truely someplace every pilot should visit. There were
14 beautiful looking tall-tailed birds sitting on the ramp right outside the
hotel entrance and approximately 40 people in attendance! Not only that,
there were great speakers and a visit to the Pacific War museum where we
witnessed a re-enactment of a Pacific War battle. And, as always the
auction was lots of fun with a few practical jokes thrown in! Barry
Collman, our historian came prepared and entertained us with a litany of
jokes during the event (thanks Barry). Make plans to attend next year as it
will be the 60th anniversary of the flight of the prototye Commander and it
would be wonderful to fill the ramp up with Commanders. We're in the
initial stages of planning and getting permission, etc., but hoping we'll be
able to hold it in Oklahoma City (Wiley Post), the birthplace of the Com
mander.
Anyway, thanks again to all who attended and we look forward to seeing the
rest of you next year.
Cheers,
Jim & Sue Metzger
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Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 09/22/07 |
Same story here... We test flew 14AV on Sunday... finally ready to fly.
2 new cyl after "something" roamed around in the engine and caused a
bent valve. Never found the culprit, but lots of other stuff got looked
at until the borescope revealed the damage. Sad deal.
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
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AC-500A-Colemill
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Subject: | Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In |
Jim,
I was very sorry to miss the event this year. In all the time I've owned
my airplane, this is the first Fly-in that I haven't been able to
make...but it was for a good reason! I've attached a picture of what I
believe is the TCFG's youngest Commander passenger right now; Reece
Elizabeth was born on 9/8/07.
I am already looking forward to next year's event. In the meantime, a
hearty "Cheers!" to all my Commander friends whom I was unable to see
this year, especially those who come across oceans to make the event;
Russell, Richard, Sir Barry......hope to see you next year!
/John
yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:
> Despite some weather delays (2 hour stopoever in Durango, Colorado
> waiting for a storm to pass through and a lot of flying around stuff)
> we made it home in time to have a late dinner and sleep in our own bed
> lat night. Total trip time was around 13 hours with about 9.5 hours
> of flying time. Had to make an extra fuel stop one hour from home.
> The old gal ran well all the way and Russel (from Australia) was able
> to get a good bit of flying time from the captain seat! Richard, the
> other ozzie flew it most of the way to T82. Wonderful to have them on
> board with us.
>
> We want to thank all of you who took time out of your busy schedules
> to attend the event. We enjoyed seeing old commander friends and
> meeting new ones. As Dan said, it is a terrific group of people who
> not only fly great airplanes, but know how to have fun.
>
> For those of you who missed the event you missed out on a fantastic
> venue -- the Hangar Hotel is truely someplace every pilot should
> visit. There were 14 beautiful looking tall-tailed birds sitting on
> the ramp right outside the hotel entrance and approximately 40 people
> in attendance! Not only that, there were great speakers and a visit
> to the Pacific War museum where we witnessed a re-enactment of a
> Pacific War battle. And, as always the auction was lots of fun with a
> few practical jokes thrown in! Barry Collman, our historian came
> prepared and entertained us with a litany of jokes during the event
> (thanks Barry). Make plans to attend next year as it will be the 60th
> anniversary of the flight of the prototye Commander and it would be
> wonderful to fill the ramp up with Commanders. We're in the initial
> stages of planning and getting permission, etc., but hoping we'll be
> able to hold it in Oklahoma City (Wiley Post), the birthplace of the
> Com mander.
>
> Anyway, thanks again to all who attended and we look forward to seeing
> the rest of you next year.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim & Sue Metzger
>
>
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Subject: | 2007 TCFG Fky-In |
John,
What a gorgeous reason to stay away. That was worth not going. What a
beautiful child. Keep your shotgun oiled!
Nico
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
Vormbaum
Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:27 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2007 TCFG Fky-In
Jim,
I was very sorry to miss the event this year. In all the time I've owned
my airplane, this is the first Fly-in that I haven't been able to
make...but it was for a good reason! I've attached a picture of what I
believe is the TCFG's youngest Commander passenger right now; Reece
Elizabeth was born on 9/8/07.
I am already looking forward to next year's event. In the meantime, a
hearty "Cheers!" to all my Commander friends whom I was unable to see
this year, especially those who come across oceans to make the event;
Russell, Richard, Sir Barry......hope to see you next year!
/John
yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:
> Despite some weather delays (2 hour stopoever in Durango, Colorado
> waiting for a storm to pass through and a lot of flying around stuff)
> we made it home in time to have a late dinner and sleep in our own bed
> lat night. Total trip time was around 13 hours with about 9.5 hours
> of flying time. Had to make an extra fuel stop one hour from home.
> The old gal ran well all the way and Russel (from Australia) was able
> to get a good bit of flying time from the captain seat! Richard, the
> other ozzie flew it most of the way to T82. Wonderful to have them on
> board with us.
>
> We want to thank all of you who took time out of your busy schedules
> to attend the event. We enjoyed seeing old commander friends and
> meeting new ones. As Dan said, it is a terrific group of people who
> not only fly great airplanes, but know how to have fun.
>
> For those of you who missed the event you missed out on a fantastic
> venue -- the Hangar Hotel is truely someplace every pilot should
> visit. There were 14 beautiful looking tall-tailed birds sitting on
> the ramp right outside the hotel entrance and approximately 40 people
> in attendance! Not only that, there were great speakers and a visit
> to the Pacific War museum where we witnessed a re-enactment of a
> Pacific War battle. And, as always the auction was lots of fun with a
> few practical jokes thrown in! Barry Collman, our historian came
> prepared and entertained us with a litany of jokes during the event
> (thanks Barry). Make plans to attend next year as it will be the 60th
> anniversary of the flight of the prototye Commander and it would be
> wonderful to fill the ramp up with Commanders. We're in the initial
> stages of planning and getting permission, etc., but hoping we'll be
> able to hold it in Oklahoma City (Wiley Post), the birthplace of the
> Com mander.
>
> Anyway, thanks again to all who attended and we look forward to seeing
> the rest of you next year.
>
> Cheers,
> Jim & Sue Metzger
>
>
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Subject: | Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In |
Congratulations John!? We missed you and I know you're missing a certain award
plaque you usually win!?? Hope to see you in Oklahoma City next year as we bring
the birds back to Commander's birthplace.?
jb
-----Original Message-----
From: John Vormbaum <john@vormbaum.com>
Sent: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 10:27 am
Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2007 TCFG Fky-In
Jim,?
?
I was very sorry to miss the event this year. In all the time I've owned my airplane,
this is the first Fly-in that I haven't been able to make...but it was
for a good reason! I've attached a picture of what I believe is the TCFG's youngest
Commander passenger right now; Reece Elizabeth was born on 9/8/07.?
?
I am already looking forward to next year's event. In the meantime, a hearty "Cheers!"
to all my Commander friends whom I was unable to see this year, especially
those who come across oceans to make the event; Russell, Richard, Sir Barry......hope
to see you next year!?
?
/John?
?
yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:?
> Despite some weather delays (2 hour stopoever in Durango, Colorado > waiting
for a storm to pass through and a lot of flying around stuff) > we made it home
in time to have a late dinner and sleep in our own bed > lat night. Total trip
time was around 13 hours with about 9.5 hours > of flying time. Had to make
an extra fuel stop one hour from home. > The old gal ran well all the way and
Russel (from Australia) was able > to get a good bit of flying time from the
captain seat! Richard, the > other ozzie flew it most of the way to T82. Wonderful
to have them on > board with us. >?
> We want to thank all of you who took time out of your busy schedules > to attend
the event. We enjoyed seeing old commander friends and > meeting new ones.
As Dan said, it is a terrific group of people who > not only fly great airplanes,
but know how to have fun. >?
> For those of you who missed the event you missed out on a fantastic > venue --
the Hangar Hotel is truely someplace every pilot should > visit. There were
14 beautiful looking tall-tailed birds sitting on > the ramp right outside the
hotel entrance and approximately 40 people > in attendance! Not only that, there
were great speakers and a visit > to the Pacific War museum where we witnessed
a re-enactment of a > Pacific War battle. And, as always the auction was
lots of fun with a > few practical jokes thrown in! Barry Collman, our historian
came > prepared and entertained us with a litany of jokes during the event
> (thanks Barry). Make plans to attend next year as it will be the 60th > anniversary
of the flight of the prototye Commander and it would be > wonderful to
fill the ramp up with Commanders. We're in the initial > stages of planning and
getting permission, etc., but hoping we'll be > able to hold it in Oklahoma
City (Wiley Post), the birthplace of the > Com mande
r. >?
> Anyway, thanks again to all who attended and we look forward to seeing > the
rest of you next year. >?
> Cheers,?
> Jim & Sue Metzger?
>?
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Subject: | Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In |
Thanks Nico, this is girl #2 for us, so me & my shotgun will be plenty
busy in a few years!
Can't wait to see you all next year in OK.
/J
nico css wrote:
>
> John,
> What a gorgeous reason to stay away. That was worth not going. What a
> beautiful child. Keep your shotgun oiled!
> Nico
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John
> Vormbaum
> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2007 10:27 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: 2007 TCFG Fky-In
>
> Jim,
>
> I was very sorry to miss the event this year. In all the time I've owned
> my airplane, this is the first Fly-in that I haven't been able to
> make...but it was for a good reason! I've attached a picture of what I
> believe is the TCFG's youngest Commander passenger right now; Reece
> Elizabeth was born on 9/8/07.
>
> I am already looking forward to next year's event. In the meantime, a
> hearty "Cheers!" to all my Commander friends whom I was unable to see
> this year, especially those who come across oceans to make the event;
> Russell, Richard, Sir Barry......hope to see you next year!
>
> /John
>
> yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:
>
>> Despite some weather delays (2 hour stopoever in Durango, Colorado
>> waiting for a storm to pass through and a lot of flying around stuff)
>> we made it home in time to have a late dinner and sleep in our own bed
>> lat night. Total trip time was around 13 hours with about 9.5 hours
>> of flying time. Had to make an extra fuel stop one hour from home.
>> The old gal ran well all the way and Russel (from Australia) was able
>> to get a good bit of flying time from the captain seat! Richard, the
>> other ozzie flew it most of the way to T82. Wonderful to have them on
>> board with us.
>>
>> We want to thank all of you who took time out of your busy schedules
>> to attend the event. We enjoyed seeing old commander friends and
>> meeting new ones. As Dan said, it is a terrific group of people who
>> not only fly great airplanes, but know how to have fun.
>>
>> For those of you who missed the event you missed out on a fantastic
>> venue -- the Hangar Hotel is truely someplace every pilot should
>> visit. There were 14 beautiful looking tall-tailed birds sitting on
>> the ramp right outside the hotel entrance and approximately 40 people
>> in attendance! Not only that, there were great speakers and a visit
>> to the Pacific War museum where we witnessed a re-enactment of a
>> Pacific War battle. And, as always the auction was lots of fun with a
>> few practical jokes thrown in! Barry Collman, our historian came
>> prepared and entertained us with a litany of jokes during the event
>> (thanks Barry). Make plans to attend next year as it will be the 60th
>> anniversary of the flight of the prototye Commander and it would be
>> wonderful to fill the ramp up with Commanders. We're in the initial
>> stages of planning and getting permission, etc., but hoping we'll be
>> able to hold it in Oklahoma City (Wiley Post), the birthplace of the
>> Com mander.
>>
>> Anyway, thanks again to all who attended and we look forward to seeing
>> the rest of you next year.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jim & Sue Metzger
>>
>>
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It would be great to ave 100 Commanders on the ramp for this event, so plan hope
all of you are already planning to attend.? The Fly-In is usually held the 3rd
weekend of September and once the date has been firmed up we will let you know.?
-----Original Message-----
From: John Towner <johntowner@centralairsouthwest.com>
Cc: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>; Bob Steele <Bob.Steele@kzf.com>; Barry
Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>; Bob & Stan Perkins <swperk@earthlink.net>;
Andrew Towner <andrewtowner@centralairsouthwest.com>
Sent: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 3:37 pm
Subject: Follow up
Jim,
Thanks for the great e-mail and glad you made it home all safe.? The "Hangar Hotel"
I agree was a great venue and I second the motion for PWA next year.? I think
I told you we use to have an office at PWA and I can help with many of the
details.?
Our trip from T82-PWA yesterday with Andrew, Anthony, and Sir Barry was all good.?
When we arrived the PWA restaurant was open and Ken Hale (85 years young)
met us with his friend.? Ken was head of engineering at Commander until he retired
in 1988 and had many stories about Ted Smith and many interesting Commander
events. On the way enroute I showed Barry Ken's signature in our AFM and then
on arrival Andrew ask Mr Hale to sign it again.? We had a great visit having
lunch in the PWA restaurant and afterwards Anthony and Andrew got the big I-Mac
and showed Ken the Commander flying on the computer explaining "blade element
theory" and I think Ken really got a chuckle out of the showing.? I mentioned
to Barry at lunch that the Commander "jigs" are at the approach end of runway
35 with grass and weeds growing up around them and Ken confirmed this and
Barry wanted to go see them almost instantly and Ken promised him they would drive
down to 50th street and view them after we took
off.? Mr Hale told some very interesting stories I had never heard and all in
all it was a wonderful experience.
One early suggestion.? The best hotel close to PWA is the Waterford Hotel about
3 miles from PWA east on 63rd street and it would be a great place to have the
TCFG folks stay next year.? Also Ken said they are moving the 1st Commander
from the trade school to a park about 1 mile from PWA and that would be a great
Saturday field trip for next year, maybe going through the old factory.
Keep in touch and again thank Sue for all of her help and the TCFG get together
this year was special.? I would like to try another mailing to all AC owners
for the 60th anniversary and it would be a great thing to have about 100 Commanders
lined up on the ramp at PWA next year (also Southwest Airlines flies to
OKC and it is very easy to get to PWA/OKC from just about anywhere in the USA
as you know).? In 1992 we had a company Saturday get together at PWA (1st time
all of our Commanders were at the same place at the same time) and it was a special
event (Bob Hoover came and did an air show for us under one condition,
that we have a party afterwards) and that is what happened.
PS-For some silly reason I can't e-mail to the TCFG web site and if you want to
share my note with the other AOK with me.
YOUR FRIEND,
John Towner
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Subject: | Re: 2007 TCFG Fky-In |
time and $ are both very demanding at this time ok, there killing me...: )
Looking forward to next years, food for thought... if anyone were close to the
Minneapolis, MN metro area, we'd be obliged on having you over. (ANE)
Take Care...
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