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1. 07:14 PM - Pilot Door. (W J R HAMILTON)
2. 09:03 PM - Re: Pilot Door. (John Vormbaum)
3. 09:05 PM - Re: Pilot Door. (Tylor Hall)
4. 09:26 PM - Re: Pilot Door. (W J R HAMILTON)
5. 10:13 PM - Re: Pilot Door. (W J R HAMILTON)
6. 10:16 PM - Re: Pilot Door. (Don)
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Folks,
I am considering grafting a pilot door into ZK-DCF, a 500A.
The door and surrounding structure will come from a written -
off 500S, I am told the internal structure around the area is the
same, does anybody know any different, or are there any serious
practical pitfalls in such a modification.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
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Hi Bill,
I'm pretty sure the structure on your -A would be the same as the -B and
-S models. I'm sure Jimbob or similar will chime in quickly and set me
straight if I'm wrong!
Mostly I'm chiming in because I saw that you were quoted in our US AOPA
Magazine back in June, in an article called "A Cautionary Tale" about
user fees, CASA, and the state of GA down under. It mentioned your
tireless support of a strong GA environment there, and your success in
Light Sport without onerous CASA oversight. We're going to have to take
some lessons from you here in the US if things keep going the way
they're going...
Sorry to hijack your posting,
/John
W J R HAMILTON wrote:
> Folks,
> I am considering grafting a pilot door into ZK-DCF, a 500A.
> The door and surrounding structure will come from a written - off
> 500S, I am told the internal structure around the area is the same,
> does anybody know any different, or are there any serious practical
> pitfalls in such a modification.
> Cheers,
> Bill Hamilton
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Bill,
The person that knows how to put doors in 500B is John Towner.
All of his 35+ aircraft have the front door. Most of his aircraft
are 500B that did not come with front doors. The are used to haul
freight at night.
The door is the easy part. It is the door frame that you need to
remove from the other aircraft.
I have flown a 500 with out and one with and the front door is a
great feature.
Tylor Hall
On Oct 16, 2007, at 8:15 PM, W J R HAMILTON wrote:
> Folks,
> I am considering grafting a pilot door into ZK-DCF, a 500A.
> The door and surrounding structure will come from a written - off
> 500S, I am told the internal structure around the area is the same,
> does anybody know any different, or are there any serious practical
> pitfalls in such a modification.
> Cheers,
> Bill Hamilton
>
>
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Tyler,
Thanks for that, we are (if we go ahead) going take a complete piece
out of the wrecked 500S, door and frame.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
At 14:11 17/10/2007, you wrote:
>Bill,
>The person that knows how to put doors in 500B is John Towner.
>All of his 35+ aircraft have the front door. Most of his aircraft
>are 500B that did not come with front doors. The are used to haul
>freight at night.
>The door is the easy part. It is the door frame that you need to
>remove from the other aircraft.
>I have flown a 500 with out and one with and the front door is a
>great feature.
>Tylor Hall
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John,
Thanks for the kind words, it is a continuous battle, but at least
the grass roots end, Recreational Aviation, is alive and well.
Given some of the recent recruitment to CASA, we seem to be dealing
with industrial grade Indian bureaucracy layered on top of an already
Have a look at http://www.auf.asn.au/, aircraft `like the Jabiru
(1200 + sold) do everything a C-152 does, but they are 20kt faster,
about a third the cost to operate, and 10,000 h airframes in flying
school service are showing no sign of deterioration --- a testimony
to wet layup, instead of pre-pregs.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
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At 14:01 17/10/2007, you wrote:
>
>Hi Bill,
>
>I'm pretty sure the structure on your -A would be the same as the -B
>and -S models. I'm sure Jimbob or similar will chime in quickly and
>set me straight if I'm wrong!
>
>Mostly I'm chiming in because I saw that you were quoted in our US
>AOPA Magazine back in June, in an article called "A Cautionary Tale"
>about user fees, CASA, and the state of GA down under. It mentioned
>your tireless support of a strong GA environment there, and your
>success in Light Sport without onerous CASA oversight. We're going
>to have to take some lessons from you here in the US if things keep
>going the way they're going...
>
>Sorry to hijack your posting,
>
>/John
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Bill;
I had nothing to do with it but, N2707B a 560E has had a pilot door
installed and it works great. A big convenience.
Don
----- Original Message -----
From: W J R HAMILTON
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:15 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Pilot Door.
Folks,
I am considering grafting a pilot door into ZK-DCF, a 500A.
The door and surrounding structure will come from a written - off
500S, I am told the internal structure around the area is the same, does
anybody know any different, or are there any serious practical pitfalls
in such a modification.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
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