Commander-List Digest Archive

Mon 10/29/07


Total Messages Posted: 6



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 07:37 AM - Urgent !! Turbochargers (Tom Fisher)
     2. 09:54 AM - Commander training? (Barry Collman)
     3. 02:52 PM - Re: Commander training? (BillLeff1@aol.com)
     4. 03:05 PM - Re: Engine Failures Update (BillLeff1@aol.com)
     5. 03:25 PM - Re: Engine Failures Update (Robert S. Randazzo)
     6. 08:16 PM - Re: Engine Failures Update (yourtcfg@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:37:27 AM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Urgent !! Turbochargers
    @#$%!@#$% I am in the middle of a search for a missing aircraft, (we have had three crashes in the last 5 days). A single check valve on the supply line to both turbochargers stuck closed on start-up which resulted in trashing both brand new, (25 hours), turbos. These things should have pressure switches with annunciater lights, they will on my machine now! Anyone have a quick delivery on 2 turbo charges? I need to get back to the search ASAP. Please call me on my cell 604-649-9320, I can't afford to buy 2 new ones but will be ordering them this morning so if you can supply any, please let me know. Thanks. Tom Fisher C-GISS 680FLP (Mr.RPM) ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert S. Randazzo To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2007 10:18 AM Subject: RE: Commander-List: Sale of 1970 500S Don- Gary will take good care of you. When the time comes to upgrade from N414C- he's the first person I'd call. Robert S. Randazzo From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dfalik@sbcglobal.net Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 8:30 PM To: commander-list@matronics.com Subject: Commander-List: Sale of 1970 500S Sadly I have decided to place for sale my 500S that I have flown for the last 3 =BD years (900 hr.). Our local airport decided last August to not renew the contract with the FBO and I am now without a mechanic/friend or a hanger to park it in when the snow and ice comes to Mich. I am planning on placing it with Gary Gadbury in Tenn. To test what the market is for it. If anyone is interested in dealing with me directly they can e-mail me at dfalik@sbcglobal.net or call me on my cell at 517 881-8959 Don http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-Listhttp://forums.matronics. com __________ NOD32 2621 (20071028) Information __________


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    Time: 09:54:16 AM PST US
    From: "Barry Collman" <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>
    Subject: Commander training?
    Hi All, I'm currently processing the changes that occurred on the FAA register for last week and found something that might, or might not, be of possible interest. Model 500B, Serial Number 910 (a former Model 500A), N698R is in the process of a change of owner. Although the Register shows the 'Name' as "Registration Pending", the field "Other Owner Names" shows there to be an Application for Registration dated 28th September 2007 to "Complex Aircraft Training LLC". Their address is: 615 Capistrano Drive Sparks Nevada 89441-9205 So, are they offering flight training for Commander owners? Perhaps if someone is interested, they might consider contacting them. Best Regards, Barry


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    Time: 02:52:55 PM PST US
    From: BillLeff1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Commander training?
    Sound like they are giving generic multi training. However, I do provide Insurance Approved Initial and Recurrent Training , including Power Point Ground School, in all models of Twin Commanders from the 520 to the 1000. I have flown them all and have worked on most over the past 36 years. I go by The Commander Academy. Talk to you later Berry Bill Leff 937-369-3334


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    Time: 03:05:25 PM PST US
    From: BillLeff1@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Engine Failures Update
    Sorry to hear about your misfortune. But, things happen, I just had a crankshaft break in the R-1340 (T-6) on the way to OSH this year. It was running great and then Poof! no engine! There was no warning. The engine shop said it was only the second broken crank they had seen since they started business in 1972. I know that is no consolation. Did it show any signs of oil starvation? That could be a connection to the cylinder problem. Most of what people have been telling you is correct.Some of it even seems contradictory but not necessarily wrong. Phillips XC oil is recommended by many overhaulers for break in and it is not mineral oil. I usually don't change the oil for only one or two cylinders and have never had any problem. However on the IGSO engine I NEVER run it on the ground after a cylinder change except to leak and function check before I go fly. This engine is very prone to glazing the cylinders and then you can't control the oil. Did you have steel or chrome cylinders? I have may years dealing with IGSO540's. they can be bad about blowing oil. Did you get an definitive report on the ring type and position on the cylinders that were changed? Bill Leff


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    Time: 03:25:01 PM PST US
    From: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
    Subject: Engine Failures Update
    Bill- You earned the respect and admiration of many of us on this list with that landing. How's your 6 doing? Back in the air yet? Robert Randazzo From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BillLeff1@aol.com Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Engine Failures Update Sorry to hear about your misfortune. But, things happen, I just had a crankshaft break in the R-1340 (T-6) on the way to OSH this year. It was running great and then Poof! no engine! There was no warning. The engine shop said it was only the second broken crank they had seen since they started business in 1972. I know that is no consolation. Did it show any signs of oil starvation? That could be a connection to the cylinder problem. Most of what people have been telling you is correct.Some of it even seems contradictory but not necessarily wrong. Phillips XC oil is recommended by many overhaulers for break in and it is not mineral oil. I usually don't change the oil for only one or two cylinders and have never had any problem. However on the IGSO engine I NEVER run it on the ground after a cylinder change except to leak and function check before I go fly. This engine is very prone to glazing the cylinders and then you can't control the oil. Did you have steel or chrome cylinders? I have may years dealing with IGSO540's. they can be bad about blowing oil. Did you get an definitive report on the ring type and position on the cylinders that were changed? Bill Leff _____ See w __________ NOD32 2624 (20071029) Information __________


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    Time: 08:16:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine Failures Update
    From: yourtcfg@aol.com
    HI BILL.? Great to hear from you!? I agree, strange things happen in aviation.? I flew R-1340s many thousands of hours in Thrush Commanders and never hear of a crank failure.? Cames, blowers, rods and master rods, but never a crank.? You did a great job getting the airplane safely landed.? I have though a lot about Randy's engines troubles and can make no connection between the changing of an adjacent?cylinder and the failure of a connecting rod.? I think Randy had posted earlier that they had rulled out oil starvation as a cause.? I also would like to know how the rod failed (Rod bolt, rod cap, broken rod?etc)? I do believe that the blow-by could have been caused by incorrect rings or correct rings incorrectly installed.? Hopefully the guy who tore it down took note if that.?? jb? -----Original Message----- From: BillLeff1@aol.com Sent: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 3:05 pm Subject: Re: Commander-List: Engine Failures Update Sorry to hear about your misfortune. But, things happen, I just had a crankshaft break in the R-1340 (T-6) on the way to OSH this year. It was running great and then Poof! no engine! There was no warning. The engine shop said it was only the second broken crank they had seen since they started business in 1972. ? I know that is no consolation.?Did it show any signs of oil starvation? That could be a connection to the cylinder problem. Most of what people have been telling you is correct.Some of it even seems contradictory but not necessarily wrong. Phillips XC oil is recommended by many overhaulers for break in and it is not mineral oil. I usually don't change the oil for only one or two cylinders and have never had any problem. However on the IGSO engine I NEVER run it on the ground after a cylinder change except to leak and function check before I go fly. This engine is very prone to glazing the cylinders and then you can't control the oil.? Did you have steel or chrome cylinders? ? I have may years dealing with IGSO540's. they can be bad about blowing oil. Did you get an definitive report on the ring type and position on the cylinders that were changed? ? Bill Leff? See w ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com




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