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| Subject:  | [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... | 
      
      
      Dear Listers, 
      
      Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
      to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
      over the commercial equivalents. 
      
      I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
      a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from
      the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
      the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
      banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
      garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
      regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the
      non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once
      a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists. 
      
      I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
      the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
      be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
      Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped
      off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that
      allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can
      be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
      they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of
      file formats including pictures and PDFs. 
      
      Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
      Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
      go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
      fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
      finding the data you're looking for. 
      
      And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ). 
      
      I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
      about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
      RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
      an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
      the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting
      for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages
      delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting
      a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving
      a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_! 
      
      I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
      quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
      Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
      The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a
      while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
      and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
      List Fund Raiser! 
      
      List Contribution Web Site: 
      
          http://www.matronics.com/contribution 
      
      Thank you, 
      
      Matt Dralle 
      Matronics Email List Administrator
      
      
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| Subject:  | FW: SORRY HE'S GONE! | 
      
      Jimmy Carter IMO was the worst president of the 20th century; I was 
      there
      for his term trying to make mortgage payments with a 15% interest rate. 
      I
      could go on for some time about all the corn Jimmy cracked, but what=92s 
      the
      use when his mother Lillian said it best:
      
      
      =93Sometimes when I look at all my children, I say to myself, "Lillian, 
      you
      should have stayed a virgin."
      
      
      http://thinkexist.com/quotes/lillian_carter/
      
      
      KV Electric, INC. 
      
      Kerry Johnson, President 
      
      1139 North 1210 West 
      
      St. George, UT 84770 
      
      (435) 673-4696 Office 
      
      (435) 673-4731 Fax 
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 4:02 PM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      There were some things to quarrel with Reagan about, but he ended up 
      pretty
      good. A genuine conservative and I believe a decent man. While totally
      different, a close second to President Carter.
      
      
      Steve
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: MASON CHEVAILLIER <mailto:kamala@msn.com>  
      
      
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:16 PM
      
      Subject: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
        _____  
      
      
      From: kaydickson@charter.net
      brigedaire@sbcglobal.net; BILLYM248@aol.com; mocardona@hotmail.com;
      kamala@msn.com; allieslaughter@hotmail.com; CAROBAUCRUZ@SBCGLOBAL.NET;
      jrasboth@aol.com
      Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: JWH <mailto:judy@havener.com>  
      
      
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:39 AM
      
      Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      Subject: SORRY HE'S GONE! 
      
      
      "Here's my strategy on the Cold War:  We win, they lose." - Ronald 
      Reagan
      
      
      =EF "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the
      government and I'm here to help. 
      - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's
      just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan 
      
       "Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. Was 
      too
      strong. - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
       "I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's would have
      looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."- Ronald 
      Reagan
      
      
       "The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but
      doesn't have to take the civil service examination. - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at 
      one
      end and no sense of responsibility at the other." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a
      government program." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "I've laid down the law, though, to everyone from now on about anything 
      that
      happens: no matter what time it is, wake me, even if it's in the middle 
      of a
      Cabinet meeting." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have
      learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first." - Ronald 
      Reagan 
      
      
      "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short 
      phrases:
      If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops
      moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many 
      rewards, if
      you disgrace yourself you can always write a book." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable 
      as
      the will and moral courage of free men and women. - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a 
      nation
      gone under." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      IF YOU AGREE, PLEASE FORWARD.....IF NOT JUST DELETE. 
      
      
        _____  
      
      
      9/2007 7:27 AM
      
      
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| Subject:  | FW: SORRY HE'S GONE! | 
      
      Steve,
      
      
      There was a difference between the Carter administration, and the Regan
      administration from my personal perspective.
      
      
      At the end of the Carter administration, I was broke, paying 20% 
      interest,
      and most of my associates were in forclosure.
      
      
      At the end of the Regan Administration, I was driving a twin engine
      airplane, running a top fuel dragster, and was debt free.  Mr. Carter 
      helped
      imensly, because most of the competition went broke, and Mr. Regan 
      
      
        _____  
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:02 PM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      There were some things to quarrel with Reagan about, but he ended up 
      pretty
      good. A genuine conservative and I believe a decent man. While totally
      different, a close second to President Carter.
      
      
      Steve
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: MASON CHEVAILLIER <mailto:kamala@msn.com>  
      
      
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:16 PM
      
      Subject: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
        _____  
      
      
      From: kaydickson@charter.net
      brigedaire@sbcglobal.net; BILLYM248@aol.com; mocardona@hotmail.com;
      kamala@msn.com; allieslaughter@hotmail.com; CAROBAUCRUZ@SBCGLOBAL.NET;
      jrasboth@aol.com
      Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: JWH <mailto:judy@havener.com>  
      
      
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:39 AM
      
      Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      Subject: SORRY HE'S GONE! 
      
      
      "Here's my strategy on the Cold War:  We win, they lose." - Ronald 
      Reagan
      
      
      =EF "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the
      government and I'm here to help. 
      - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's
      just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan 
      
       "Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. Was 
      too
      strong. - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
       "I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's would have
      looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."- Ronald 
      Reagan
      
      
       "The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but
      doesn't have to take the civil service examination. - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at 
      one
      end and no sense of responsibility at the other." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a
      government program." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "I've laid down the law, though, to everyone from now on about anything 
      that
      happens: no matter what time it is, wake me, even if it's in the middle 
      of a
      Cabinet meeting." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have
      learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first." - Ronald 
      Reagan 
      
      
      "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short 
      phrases:
      If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops
      moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many 
      rewards, if
      you disgrace yourself you can always write a book." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable 
      as
      the will and moral courage of free men and women. - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a 
      nation
      gone under." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      IF YOU AGREE, PLEASE FORWARD.....IF NOT JUST DELETE. 
      
      
        _____  
      
      
      9/2007 7:27 AM
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE! | 
      
      Just trying to see if you guys were still awake.......
      
      I know his administration was dissapointing. They made some mistakes. I 
      think he was ahead of the curve on conservation and energy usage. We 
      could have had a 30 year jump on energy usage. Part of the good times 
      may have been trading off what we needed to face into the future.
      
      Too bad Reagan didn't have better health in his older years after his 
      presidency. It might have been a reasonable voice added when we really 
      needed it.
      
      Steve
      
      
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Moe - Ross Racing Pistons 
        To: commander-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 10:30 AM
        Subject: RE: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
        Steve,
      
         
      
        There was a difference between the Carter administration, and the 
      Regan administration from my personal perspective.
      
         
      
        At the end of the Carter administration, I was broke, paying 20% 
      interest, and most of my associates were in forclosure.
      
         
      
        At the end of the Regan Administration, I was driving a twin engine 
      airplane, running a top fuel dragster, and was debt free.  Mr. Carter 
      helped imensly, because most of the competition went broke, and Mr. 
      Regan 
      
         
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      
        From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
        Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:02 PM
        To: commander-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
         
      
        There were some things to quarrel with Reagan about, but he ended up 
      pretty good. A genuine conservative and I believe a decent man. While 
      totally different, a close second to President Carter.
      
         
      
        Steve
      
          ----- Original Message ----- 
      
          From: MASON CHEVAILLIER 
      
          To: commander-list 
      
          Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:16 PM
      
          Subject: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
           
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ---
      
          From: kaydickson@charter.net
          To: MMPurnell@aol.com; lxlaw89@yahoo.com; Ahdowdell@sbcglobal.net; 
      brigedaire@sbcglobal.net; BILLYM248@aol.com; mocardona@hotmail.com; 
      kamala@msn.com; allieslaughter@hotmail.com; CAROBAUCRUZ@SBCGLOBAL.NET; 
      jrasboth@aol.com
          Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
          Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:09:11 -0600
      
           
      
          ----- Original Message ----- 
      
          From: JWH 
      
          To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; 
      
          Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:39 AM
      
          Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
           
      
           
      
           
      
          Subject: SORRY HE'S GONE! 
      
           
      
                 
      
                 
      
                  
      
                "Here's my strategy on the Cold War:  We win, they lose." - 
      Ronald Reagan
      
      
                =EF "The most terrifying words in the English language are: 
      I'm from the government and I'm here to help. 
                - Ronald Reagan
      
                  
                "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're 
      ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald 
      Reagan 
      
                 "Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the 
      U.S. Was too strong. - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                 "I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's 
      would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. 
      Congress."- Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                 "The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal 
      government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination. - 
      Ronald Reagan
      
      
                "Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big 
      appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other." - 
      Ronald Reagan
      
      
                "The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this 
      earth is a government program." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
                "I've laid down the law, though, to everyone from now on about 
      anything that happens: no matter what time it is, wake me, even if it's 
      in the middle of a Cabinet meeting." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                "It has been said that politics is the second oldest 
      profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the 
      first." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few 
      short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And 
      if it stops moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                "Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are 
      many rewards, if you disgrace yourself you can always write a book." - 
      Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                "No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so 
      formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. - Ronald 
      Reagan 
      
      
                "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we 
      will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                IF YOU AGREE, PLEASE FORWARD.....IF NOT JUST DELETE. 
      
                 
      
      
                 
               
                       
                      
                      
                     
      
               
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      ---
      
          9/2007 7:27 AM
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE! | 
      
      MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY.=C2- unbelievable statement :-( jb
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Bill Bow <bowing74@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 7:06 pm
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      =9Ca close second to President Carter=9D
      
      You mean the guy who gave away the Panama Canal?
      
      You mean the guy who brought us 18% mortgage rates?
      
      You mean the guy who threw the Shaw of Iran under the bus resulting in Musli
      m situation we have today?
      
      I guess that was a joke and I missed it, sorry.
      
      <G>
      
      bilbo 
      
      =C2-
      
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list
      -server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:02 PM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      There were some things to quarrel with Reagan about, but he ended up pretty 
      good. A genuine conservative and I believe a decent man. While totally diffe
      rent,=C2-a close second to President Carter.
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      Steve
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      
      From: MASON CHEVAILLIER 
      
      
      
      
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:16 PM
      
      
      Subject: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      From: kaydickson@charter.net
      e@sbcglobal.net; BILLYM248@aol.com; mocardona@hotmail.com; kamala@msn.com; a
      llieslaughter@hotmail.com; CAROBAUCRUZ@SBCGLOBAL.NET; jrasboth@aol.com
      Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      
      From: JWH 
      
      
      
      
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:39 AM
      
      
      Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      Subject: SORRY HE'S GONE! 
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2- 
      
      "Here's my strategy on the Cold War:=C2- We win, they lose." - Ronald Reag
      an
      
      
      =C3=AF "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the 
      government and I'm here to help. 
      - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      =C2-=C2-
      "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's jus
      t that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan=C2-
      
      =C2-"Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. Was 
      too strong. - Ronald Reagan=C2-
      
      
      =C2-"I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's would have 
      looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."- Ronald Reagan
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-"The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but
       doesn't have to take the civil service examination. - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one e
      nd and no sense of responsibility at the other." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a gover
      nment program." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "I've laid down the law, though, to everyone from now on about anything that
       happens: no matter what time it is, wake me, even if it's in the middle of 
      a Cabinet meeting." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have lear
      ned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases:
       If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops movin
      g, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many rewards, if
       you disgrace yourself you can always write a book." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as 
      the will and moral courage of free men and women. - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation
       gone under." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      IF YOU AGREE, PLEASE FORWARD.....IF NOT JUST DELETE. 
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      9/2007 7:27 AM
      
      
      ________________________________________________________________________
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| Subject:  | Re: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE! | 
      
      AMEN, AMEN.=C2- Makes me want to cry.=C2- jb
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala@MSN.COM>
      Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 9:16 am
      Subject: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      From: kaydickson@charter.net
      e@sbcglobal.net; BILLYM248@aol.com; mocardona@hotmail.com; kamala@msn.com; a
      llieslaughter@hotmail.com; CAROBAUCRUZ@SBCGLOBAL.NET; jrasboth@aol.com
      Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      =C2-
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: JWH 
      
      
      Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:39 AM
      
      Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      Subject: SORRY HE'S GONE! 
      
      
      =C2-
      
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2- 
      
      "Here's my strategy on the Cold War:=C2- We win, they lose." - Ronald Reag
      an
      
      
      =C3=AF "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the 
      government and I'm here to help. 
      - Ronald Reagan
      =C3=AF "The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the 
      government and I'm here to help. 
      - Ronald Reagan
      =C2-=C2-
      "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant: It's jus
      t that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan=C2-
      
      =C2-"Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the U.S. Was 
      too strong. - Ronald Reagan=C2-
      
      
      =C2-"I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's would have 
      looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. Congress."- Ronald Reagan
      =C2-
      
      
      =C2-"The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal government but
       doesn't have to take the civil service examination. - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big appetite at one e
      nd and no sense of responsibility at the other." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this earth is a gover
      nment program." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
      "I've laid down the law, though, to everyone from now on about anything that
       happens: no matter what time it is, wake me, even if it's in the middle of 
      a Cabinet meeting." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have lear
      ned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few short phrases:
       If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And if it stops movin
      g, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are many rewards, if
       you disgrace yourself you can always write a book." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so formidable as 
      the will and moral courage of free men and women. - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation
       gone under." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
      IF YOU AGREE, PLEASE FORWARD.....IF NOT JUST DELETE. 
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
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      Great Commander day indeed, thank for sharing.? jb
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Steve W <steve2@sover.net>
      Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 3:30 pm
      Subject: Commander-List: Survey day
      
      
      What a spectacular day in New England to be flying. I know there are some non-Commander
      owners on the list. It's too bad they could not have been along today.
      Pre-heat at 7:15 to get launched in time for good sunlight on the first job
      site 250 miles away. The weather was a survey pilot's dream. Cyrstal clear, and
      almost no wind. Mount Washington and the Presidentials in New Hampshire had
      their tops covered with snow. Very unusual to be skimming 1000 feet over them
      in smooth air. There were 4 sites in working areas of the Maine forests. Moose
      country. Almost no wind, and no crab. Had budgeted 2 days effort and we got it
      done in one with a half hour of gas and sunlight left. A hot cup of coffee,
      a fill-up, and shooting the shit with the guys up in Millinocket. A great place
      for gas, almost to the Canadian border, with Mount Katahdin in the background.
      A nice local old-timer was being taught to work the pumps. Just had his first
      airplane ride ever, in a Citabria.
      
      ?
      
      Don't usually listen to music when flying, I don't need to be entertained, but
      this far north there's no point in talking with anyone and we had some Van Morrison,
      Lowell George and Little Feat through the Bose on the way home again through
      the mountain ranges.
      
      ?
      
      Some maple wood's in the stove, a good glass of wine at hand, and dinner's in the
      oven.
      
      ?
      
      A good day to fly.
      
      ?
      
      Steve
      
      
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| Subject:  | COMMANDER FLIGHTS | 
      
      HI KIDS..
      I had a couple of nice commander flights recently.? First, I went to MKE and was
      then flown to Sheboygan (sp) to pick up a nice old 680E that belongs to a new
      owner (and flight group member) Chris Bartnick.? The airplane had not flown
      in several years but is in nice shape.? With the proper ferry permit in hand,
      I launched for Kenosha.? You would never have known the airplane had sat for so
      long.? She performed GREAT!!? Both engines ran like a Swiss watch.? The flight
      was too short. only about twenty minutes along the west shore of the lake.?
      The weather was gorgeous and the air smooth.? It was a great day to fly!!
      
      Then Last week I flew to San Juan PR to do the annual insp. on Jimmy Rodriguez's
      air conditioned?500B, S/N 1.? The annual went really well and we did several
      projects like replacing all the rubber motor mounts, rebuilding the main gear
      scissors and replacing a broken (by the avionics shop) landing light lenz.? I
      was done a day early, so we test flew the airplane to Jimmy's island getaway
      on Culabra.? It was a great flight over the Caribbean waters.? We had Jimmy's
      family along and it was fun watching Mom and the kids playing games in the back
      of the Commander, these airplanes really are a suburban with wings!!? I seldom
      get to just ride and I really enjoyed just looking out the window.? The airport
      at Culebra is has tricky approach and there have been a few accidents there.?
      I landed a Commander there a couple of years ago so I was interested to watch
      Jimmy's technique.? He did a masterful job with the Commander and flew a
      perfect approach and a great landing.? We left for ho
       me, Isla Grande airport, just as the sun was setting and had a great night flight
      back.? It was a great end to my trip.? The bad news was that the next day?I
      had a 16hr airline trip home (to Portland OR).? jb
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| Subject:  | Re: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE! | 
      
      At least some of you guys still have a sense of humor.....
      
      Group hug, or too soon?
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: yourtcfg@aol.com 
        To: commander-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 11:29 AM
        Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
        MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY.  unbelievable statement :-( jb
      
      
        -----Original Message-----
        From: Bill Bow <bowing74@earthlink.net>
        To: commander-list@matronics.com
        Sent: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 7:06 pm
        Subject: RE: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
        =9Ca close second to President Carter=9D
        You mean the guy who gave away the Panama Canal?
        You mean the guy who brought us 18% mortgage rates?
        You mean the guy who threw the Shaw of Iran under the bus resulting in 
      Muslim situation we have today?
        I guess that was a joke and I missed it, sorry.
        <G>
        bilbo 
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
      -----
      
        From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
        Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 6:02 PM
        To: commander-list@matronics.com
        Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
        There were some things to quarrel with Reagan about, but he ended up 
      pretty good. A genuine conservative and I believe a decent man. While 
      totally different, a close second to President Carter.
      
        Steve
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: MASON CHEVAILLIER 
          To: commander-list 
          Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 12:16 PM
          Subject: Commander-List: FW: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
      -------------------------------------------------------------------------
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          From: kaydickson@charter.net
          To: MMPurnell@aol.com; lxlaw89@yahoo.com; Ahdowdell@sbcglobal.net; 
      brigedaire@sbcglobal.net; BILLYM248@aol.com; mocardona@hotmail.com; 
      kamala@msn.com; allieslaughter@hotmail.com; CAROBAUCRUZ@SBCGLOBAL.NET; 
      jrasboth@aol.com
          Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
          Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:09:11 -0600
      
          ----- Original Message ----- 
          From: JWH 
          To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; 
          Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007 3:39 AM
          Subject: Fw: SORRY HE'S GONE!
      
      
          Subject: SORRY HE'S GONE! 
      
      
                  
      
                "Here's my strategy on the Cold War:  We win, they lose." - 
      Ronald Reagan
      
                =C3=AF "The most terrifying words in the English language are: 
      I'm from the government and I'm here to help. 
                - Ronald Reagan
                  
                "The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're 
      ignorant: It's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald 
      Reagan 
      
                 "Of the four wars in my lifetime none came about because the 
      U.S. Was too strong. - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                 "I have wondered at times about what the Ten Commandment's 
      would have looked like if Moses had run them through the U.S. 
      Congress."- Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                 "The taxpayer: That's someone who works for the federal 
      government but doesn't have to take the civil service examination. - 
      Ronald Reagan
      
      
                "Government is like a baby: An alimentary canal with a big 
      appetite at one end and no sense of responsibility at the other." - 
      Ronald Reagan
      
      
                "The nearest thing to eternal life we will ever see on this 
      earth is a government program." - Ronald Reagan
      
      
                "I've laid down the law, though, to everyone from now on about 
      anything that happens: no matter what time it is, wake me, even if it's 
      in the middle of a Cabinet meeting." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                "It has been said that politics is the second oldest 
      profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the 
      first." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                "Government's view of the economy could be summed up in a few 
      short phrases: If it moves, tax it. If it keeps moving, regulate it. And 
      if it stops moving, subsidize it." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                "Politics is not a bad profession. If you succeed there are 
      many rewards, if you disgrace yourself you can always write a book." - 
      Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                "No arsenal, or no weapon in the arsenals of the world, is so 
      formidable as the will and moral courage of free men and women. - Ronald 
      Reagan 
      
      
                "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we 
      will be a nation gone under." - Ronald Reagan 
      
      
                IF YOU AGREE, PLEASE FORWARD.....IF NOT JUST DELETE. 
      
      
               
                       
               
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: COMMANDER FLIGHTS | 
      
      
      Lucky you, a Caribbean Vacation that involved Commanders! I need to 
      arrange something like that....
      
      /J
      
      yourtcfg@aol.com wrote:
      > HI KIDS..
      > I had a couple of nice commander flights recently.  First, I went to 
      > MKE and was then flown to Sheboygan (sp) to pick up a nice old 680E 
      > that belongs to a new owner (and flight group member) Chris Bartnick.  
      > The airplane had not flown in several years but is in nice shape.  
      > With the proper ferry permit in hand, I launched for Kenosha.  You 
      > would never have known the airplane had sat for so long.  She 
      > performed GREAT!!  Both engines ran like a Swiss watch.  The flight 
      > was too short. only about twenty minutes along the west shore of the 
      > lake.  The weather was gorgeous and the air smooth.  It was a great 
      > day to fly!!
      >
      > Then Last week I flew to San Juan PR to do the annual insp. on Jimmy 
      > Rodriguez's air conditioned 500B, S/N 1.  The annual went really well 
      > and we did several projects like replacing all the rubber motor 
      > mounts, rebuilding the main gear scissors and replacing a broken (by 
      > the avionics shop) landing light lenz.  I was done a day early, so we 
      > test flew the airplane to Jimmy's island getaway on Culabra.  It was a 
      > great flight over the Caribbean waters.  We had Jimmy's family along 
      > and it was fun watching Mom and the kids playing games in the back of 
      > the Commander, these airplanes really are a suburban with wings!!  I 
      > seldom get to just ride and I really enjoyed just looking out the 
      > window.  The airport at Culebra is has tricky approach and there have 
      > been a few accidents there.  I landed a Commander there a couple of 
      > years ago so I was interested to watch Jimmy's technique.  He did a 
      > masterful job with the Commander and flew a perfect approach and a 
      > great landing.  We left for home, Isla Grande airport, just as the sun 
      > was setting and had a great night flight back.  It was a great end to 
      > my trip.  The bad news was that the next day I had a 16hr airline trip 
      > home (to Portland OR).  jb
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| Subject:  | Re: COMMANDER FLIGHTS | 
      
      I knew I had seen that Island name somewhere........ Just recently I had 
      been forwarded a link to a YouTube video by a buddy of landing on 
      Culebra. That is tricky! Guy does a beautiful job and handles the 
      aircraft really well.
      
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhjySesmcYo&feature=related
      
      Steve
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: yourtcfg@aol.com 
        To: commander-list@matronics.com 
        Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 12:00 PM
        Subject: Commander-List: COMMANDER FLIGHTS
      
      
        HI KIDS..
        I had a couple of nice commander flights recently.  First, I went to 
      MKE and was then flown to Sheboygan (sp) to pick up a nice old 680E that 
      belongs to a new owner (and flight group member) Chris Bartnick.  The 
      airplane had not flown in several years but is in nice shape.  With the 
      proper ferry permit in hand, I launched for Kenosha.  You would never 
      have known the airplane had sat for so long.  She performed GREAT!!  
      Both engines ran like a Swiss watch.  The flight was too short. only 
      about twenty minutes along the west shore of the lake.  The weather was 
      gorgeous and the air smooth.  It was a great day to fly!!
      
        Then Last week I flew to San Juan PR to do the annual insp. on Jimmy 
      Rodriguez's air conditioned 500B, S/N 1.  The annual went really well 
      and we did several projects like replacing all the rubber motor mounts, 
      rebuilding the main gear scissors and replacing a broken (by the 
      avionics shop) landing light lenz.  I was done a day early, so we test 
      flew the airplane to Jimmy's island getaway on Culabra.  It was a great 
      flight over the Caribbean waters.  We had Jimmy's family along and it 
      was fun watching Mom and the kids playing games in the back of the 
      Commander, these airplanes really are a suburban with wings!!  I seldom 
      get to just ride and I really enjoyed just looking out the window.  The 
      airport at Culebra is has tricky approach and there have been a few 
      accidents there.  I landed a Commander there a couple of years ago so I 
      was interested to watch Jimmy's technique.  He did a masterful job with 
      the Commander and flew a perfect approach and a great landing.  We left 
      for home, Isla Grande airport, just as the sun was setting and had a 
      great night flight back.  It was a great end to my trip.  The bad news 
      was that the next day I had a 16hr airline trip home (to Portland OR).  
      jb
      
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      Sorry to ask this on a Commander forum.  A friend and I are looking at a (with
      minimal interest)  at a 1976 Cessna 340A with 310 hp.  Does anyone know much about
      them?
         
        To the fellow who said my John Cranks harder because of my age --you are correct.
      No my family did not own a JD dealership but I am aleast a 4th generation
      farmer and multi generation Farmer.  
         
        dan farmer
      
             
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| Subject:  | Cessna 340A [bcc][faked-from][html-rem] | 
      
      Dan:
      
      Why minimal interest?  A 340 (just like all of them) is a great airplane 
      with a specific mission: 4 or 5 pax in pressurized, air-conditioned 
      comfort with unbeatable economy.  A 340A is just stock with the 
      powerplants that every 340 needs in the first place.
      
      Brock
      
      -----Original Message--
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Dan Farmer
      Sent: Tue 11/20/2007 5:59 PM
      Subject: Commander-List: Cessna 340A [bcc][faked-from][html-rem]
      
      Sorry to ask this on a Commander forum.  A friend and I are looking at a 
      (with minimal interest)  at a 1976 Cessna 340A with 310 hp.  Does anyone 
      know much about them?
         
        To the fellow who said my John Cranks harder because of my age --you 
      are correct. No my family did not own a JD dealership but I am aleast a 
      4th generation farmer and multi generation Farmer.  
         
        dan farmer
      
             
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      Gotcha Dan, I was a John Deere dealer for 19 years and another dealer whom I new
      was Dan Farmer.
      
      Donnie Rose 
      205/492-8444
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 7:59:33 PM
      Subject: Commander-List: Cessna 340A
      
      
      Sorry to ask this on a Commander forum.  A friend and I are looking at a (with
      minimal interest)  at a 1976 Cessna 340A with 310 hp.  Does anyone know much about
      them?
      
      To the fellow who said my John Cranks harder because of my age --you are correct.
      No my family did not own a JD dealership but I am aleast a 4th generation farmer
      and multi generation Farmer.  
      
      dan farmer
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cessna 340A [bcc][faked-from][html-rem] | 
      
      
      Brock
      
      My 685 will do that too!
      
      If I could just get it out of the hangar....  :-p
      
      Robert S. Randazzo
      
      
      On Nov 20, 2007, at 9:18 PM, "Brock Lorber"  
      <blorber@southwestcirrus.com> wrote:
      
      > Dan:
      >
      > Why minimal interest?  A 340 (just like all of them) is a great  
      > airplane with a specific mission: 4 or 5 pax in pressurized, air- 
      > conditioned comfort with unbeatable economy.  A 340A is just stock  
      > with the powerplants that every 340 needs in the first place.
      >
      > Brock
      >
      > -----Original Message--
      > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Dan  
      > Farmer
      > Sent: Tue 11/20/2007 5:59 PM
      > To: commander-list-digest@matronics.com
      > Subject: Commander-List: Cessna 340A [bcc][faked-from][html-rem]
      >
      > Sorry to ask this on a Commander forum.  A friend and I are looking  
      > at a (with minimal interest)  at a 1976 Cessna 340A with 310 hp.   
      > Does anyone know much about them?
      >
      >  To the fellow who said my John Cranks harder because of my age -- 
      > you are correct. No my family did not own a JD dealership but I am  
      > aleast a 4th generation farmer and multi generation Farmer.
      >
      >  dan farmer
      >
      >
      > ---------------------------------
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      >
      > <winmail.dat>
      
      
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| Subject:  | Cessna 340A [bcc][faked-from][html-rem] | 
      
      Why is it that the mechs seem to win on 30-40 year old rigs?  I'm in 
      there somewhere and, while I'm starting to groan a bit while getting out 
      of bed in the morning, once I'm up I'm up!  These pampered girls should 
      be thanking us!
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Robert S. 
      Randazzo
      Sent: Tue 11/20/2007 7:28 PM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Cessna 340A [bcc][faked-from][html-rem]
      
      <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
      
      Brock
      
      My 685 will do that too!
      
      If I could just get it out of the hangar....  :-p
      
      Robert S. Randazzo
      
      
      On Nov 20, 2007, at 9:18 PM, "Brock Lorber"  
      <blorber@southwestcirrus.com> wrote:
      
      > Dan:
      >
      > Why minimal interest?  A 340 (just like all of them) is a great  
      > airplane with a specific mission: 4 or 5 pax in pressurized, air- 
      > conditioned comfort with unbeatable economy.  A 340A is just stock  
      > with the powerplants that every 340 needs in the first place.
      >
      > Brock
      >
      > -----Original Message--
      > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com on behalf of Dan  
      > Farmer
      > Sent: Tue 11/20/2007 5:59 PM
      > To: commander-list-digest@matronics.com
      > Subject: Commander-List: Cessna 340A [bcc][faked-from][html-rem]
      >
      > Sorry to ask this on a Commander forum.  A friend and I are looking  
      > at a (with minimal interest)  at a 1976 Cessna 340A with 310 hp.   
      > Does anyone know much about them?
      >
      >  To the fellow who said my John Cranks harder because of my age -- 
      > you are correct. No my family did not own a JD dealership but I am  
      > aleast a 4th generation farmer and multi generation Farmer.
      >
      >  dan farmer
      >
      >
      > ---------------------------------
      > Never miss a thing.   Make Yahoo your homepage.
      >
      > <winmail.dat>
      
      
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