---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 11/26/07: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 12:05 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published Dec 1! (Matt Dralle) 1. 11:45 AM - FW: The Golden Compass (MASON CHEVAILLIER) 2. 12:15 PM - Re: fuel shutoff valve question (BillLeff1@aol.com) 3. 05:47 PM - Re: FW: The Golden Compass (Robert Feldtman) 4. 08:36 PM - Re: FW: The Golden Compass (JTAddington) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:43 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Commander-List: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published Dec 1! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. 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Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 11:45:48 AM PST US From: MASON CHEVAILLIER Subject: Commander-List: FW: The Golden Compass From: fwitt4@sbcglobal.netTo: sabrabrown@cox.net; RPetrarrussell@aol.com; k amala@msn.com; holleytowle@bellsouth.net; herbmax11@aol.com; gjones25@tampa bay.rr.com; djb@ratc.com; thesquaredancer@sbcglobal.net; baba09460@yahoo.co mSubject: Fw: The Golden CompassDate: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:49:08 -0600 ----- Original Message ----- From: Peggy McMindes Mayberry ; Carolyn Jackson ; Barbara Finholt Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Fw: The Golden Compass ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Brox Brownell ; Melissa Brox ; Peggy McMindes ; Sandy Smith ; Susan Hidy Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Fw: The Golden Compass We all need to take note of this & pass on to our kids & Grandkids, as well as any other children we might be able to influence. This is dreadful!! Th ese are a couple E-mails I copied from Snopes (which says they are true) th at are circulating about this movie coming out in December and the books th e movie is taken from. Thought you would find them thought provoking. http: //www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp There will be a new Children 's movie out in December called THE GOLDEN COMPASS. It is written by Philli p Pullman, a proud athiest who belongs to secular humanist societies. He ha tes C. S. Lewis's Chronical's of Narnia and has written a trilogy to show t he other side. The movie has been dumbed down to fool kids and their parent s in the hope that they will buy his trilogy where in the end the children kill God and everyone can do as they please. Nicole Kidman stars in the mov ie so it will probably be advertised a lot. This is just a friendly warning that you sure won't hear on the regular TV. [Collected via e-mail, October 2007] I don't just generally dismiss a movie or book just because someone 'says' it's meant to be something else...but this is worth knowing if you plan to see it (or plan to take your kids). "H i! I just wanted to inform you what I just learned about a movie that is co ming out December 7, during the Christmas season, which is entitled THE GOL DEN COMPASS. It stars Nicole Kidman and it is directed toward children. Wha t is disturbing to me is that this movie is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called HIS DARK MATERIALS written by Philip Pullman of England. He's an atheist and his objective is to bash Christianity and p romote atheism. I heard that he has made remarks that he wants to kill God in the minds of children, and that's what his books are all about. He despi ses C.S. Lewis and Narnia, etc. An article written about him said "this is the most dangerous author in Britain" and that Pullman would be the writer "the atheists would be praying for, if atheists prayed." Pullman said he do esn't think it is possible that there is a God and he has great difficulty understanding the words "spiritual" and "spirituality." What I thought was important to communicate is what part of the agenda is for making this pict ure. This movie is a watered down version of the first book, which is the l east offensive of the three books. The second book of the trilogy is THE SU BTLE KNIFE and the third book is THE AMBER SPYGLASS. Each book gets worse a nd worse regarding Pullman's hatred of God. In the trilogy, a young girl be comes enmeshed in an epic struggle against a nefarious Church known as the Magisterium. Another character, an ex-nun, describes Christianity as "a ver y powerful and convincing mistake." As I understand it, in the last book, a boy and girl are depicted representing Adam and Eve and they kill God, who at times is called YAHWEH (which is definitely not Allah). Since the movie would seem mild if you viewed it, that's been done on purpose. They are ho ping that unsuspecting parents will take their children to See the movie, t hat they will enjoy the movie and then the children will want the books for Christmas. That's the hook. Pullman says he wants the children to read the books and decide against God and the kingdom of heaven. If you decide that you do not want to support something like this, I suggest that you boycott the movie and the books. I googled a synopsis of THE GOLDEN COMPASS. As I skimmed it, I couldn't believe that in a children's book part of the story is about castration and female circumcision. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:57 PM PST US From: BillLeff1@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: fuel shutoff valve question It should completely shut off.If t does not it needs overhauled. Bill Leff **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:47:01 PM PST US From: "Robert Feldtman" Subject: Re: Commander-List: FW: The Golden Compass Exactly what I have heard! awful bobf 500GW On 11/26/07, MASON CHEVAILLIER wrote: > > > ------------------------------ > From: fwitt4@sbcglobal.net > To: sabrabrown@cox.net; RPetrarrussell@aol.com; kamala@msn.com; > holleytowle@bellsouth.net; herbmax11@aol.com; gjones25@tampabay.rr.com; > djb@ratc.com; thesquaredancer@sbcglobal.net; baba09460@yahoo.com > Subject: Fw: The Golden Compass > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 12:49:08 -0600 > > > ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Peggy McMindes > *To:* Florence Witt ; Ren=E9 White; Jody > Price ; Bill & Emily O'Grady; Joan > Mayberry ; Carolyn Jackson ; Barbara > Finholt > *Sent:* Monday, November 26, 2007 12:08 PM > *Subject:* Fw: The Golden Compass > > > ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Mary Brox > *To:* Carrie Brox ; Cheryl Buss; Frances > Betterman ; Georgia Hanwell; Jean > Brownell ; Melissa Brox ; Pegg y > McMindes ; Sandy Smith ; Susan > Hidy > *Sent:* Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:29 PM > *Subject:* Fw: The Golden Compass > > > We all need to take note of this & pass on to our kids & Grandkids, as > well as any other children we might be able to influence. This is dreadfu l!! > > These are a couple E-mails I copied from Snopes (which says they are true ) > that are circulating about this movie coming out in December and the book s > the movie is taken from. Thought you would find them thought provoking. > > http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp > > There will be a new Children's movie out in December called THE GOLDEN > COMPASS. It is written by Phillip Pullman, a proud athiest who belongs to > secular humanist societies. He hates C. S. Lewis's Chronical's of Narnia and > has written a trilogy to show the other side. The movie has been dumbed d own > to fool kids and their parents in the hope that they will buy his trilogy > where in the end the children kill God and everyone can do as they please .. > Nicole Kidman stars in the movie so it will probably be advertised a lot. > This is just a friendly warning that you sure won't hear on the regular T V. > > ------------------------------ > * > [Collected via e-mail, October 2007]* > > I don't just generally dismiss a movie or book just because someone 'says ' > it's meant to be something else...but this is worth knowing if you plan t o > see it (or plan to take your kids). > > "Hi! I just wanted to inform you what I just learned about a movie that i s > coming out December 7, during the Christmas season, which is entitled THE > GOLDEN COMPASS. It stars Nicole Kidman and it is directed toward children .. > What is disturbing to me is that this movie is based on the first of a > trilogy of books for children called HIS DARK MATERIALS written by Philip > Pullman of England. > > He's an atheist and his objective is to bash Christianity and promote > atheism. I heard that he has made remarks that he wants to kill God in th e > minds of children, and that's what his books are all about. He despises > C.S. Lewis and Narnia, etc. An article written about him said "this is th e > most dangerous author in Britain" and that Pullman would be the writer "t he > atheists would be praying for, if atheists prayed." Pullman said he doesn 't > think it is possible that there is a God and he has great difficulty > understanding the words "spiritual" and "spirituality." What I thought wa s > important to communicate is what part of the agenda is for making this > picture. This movie is a watered down version of the first book, which is > the least offensive of the three books. The second book of the trilogy is > THE SUBTLE KNIFE and the third book is THE AMBER SPYGLASS. Each book gets > worse and worse regarding Pullman's hatred of God. In the trilogy, a youn g > girl becomes enmeshed in an epic struggle against a nefarious Church know n > as the Magisterium. Another character, an ex-nun, describes Christianity as > "a very powerful and convincing mistake." As I understand it, in the last > book, a boy and girl are depicted representing Adam and Eve and they kill > God, who at times is called YAHWEH (which is definitely not Allah). Since > the movie would seem mild if you viewed it, that's been done on purpose. > > They are hoping that unsuspecting parents will take their children to See > the movie, that they will enjoy the movie and then the children will want > the books for Christmas. That's the hook. Pullman says he wants the child ren > to read the books and decide against God and the kingdom of heaven. > > If you decide that you do not want to support something like this, I > suggest that you boycott the movie and the books. I googled a synopsis of > THE GOLDEN COMPASS. As I skimmed it, I couldn't believe that in a childre n's > book part of the story is about castration and female circumcision. > ======================== * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:46 PM PST US From: "JTAddington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: FW: The Golden Compass I got this some time back and was very disappointed in Nicole Kidman. I had just gotten an email with her singing that was beautiful. Jim A _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of MASON CHEVAILLIER Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 1:12 PM Subject: Commander-List: FW: The Golden Compass _____ From: fwitt4@sbcglobal.net holleytowle@bellsouth.net; herbmax11@aol.com; gjones25@tampabay.rr.com; djb@ratc.com; thesquaredancer@sbcglobal.net; baba09460@yahoo.com Subject: Fw: The Golden Compass ----- Original Message ----- From: Peggy McMindes White ; Jody Price ; Bill & Emily O'Grady ; Joan Mayberry ; Carolyn Jackson ; Barbara Finholt Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Fw: The Golden Compass ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Brox ; Frances Betterman ; Georgia Hanwell ; Jean Brownell ; Melissa Brox ; Peggy McMindes ; Sandy Smith ; Susan Hidy Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2007 5:29 PM Subject: Fw: The Golden Compass We all need to take note of this & pass on to our kids & Grandkids, as well as any other children we might be able to influence. This is dreadful!! These are a couple E-mails I copied from Snopes (which says they are true) that are circulating about this movie coming out in December and the books the movie is taken from. Thought you would find them thought provoking. http://www.snopes.com/politics/religion/compass.asp There will be a new Children's movie out in December called THE GOLDEN COMPASS. It is written by Phillip Pullman, a proud athiest who belongs to secular humanist societies. He hates C. S. Lewis's Chronical's of Narnia and has written a trilogy to show the other side. The movie has been dumbed down to fool kids and their parents in the hope that they will buy his trilogy where in the end the children kill God and everyone can do as they please. Nicole Kidman stars in the movie so it will probably be advertised a lot. This is just a friendly warning that you sure won't hear on the regular TV. _____ [Collected via e-mail, October 2007] I don't just generally dismiss a movie or book just because someone 'says' it's meant to be something else...but this is worth knowing if you plan to see it (or plan to take your kids). "Hi! I just wanted to inform you what I just learned about a movie that is coming out December 7, during the Christmas season, which is entitled THE GOLDEN COMPASS. It stars Nicole Kidman and it is directed toward children. What is disturbing to me is that this movie is based on the first of a trilogy of books for children called HIS DARK MATERIALS written by Philip Pullman of England. He's an atheist and his objective is to bash Christianity and promote atheism. I heard that he has made remarks that he wants to kill God in the minds of children, and that's what his books are all about. He despises C.S. Lewis and Narnia, etc. An article written about him said "this is the most dangerous author in Britain" and that Pullman would be the writer "the atheists would be praying for, if atheists prayed." Pullman said he doesn't think it is possible that there is a God and he has great difficulty understanding the words "spiritual" and "spirituality." What I thought was important to communicate is what part of the agenda is for making this picture. This movie is a watered down version of the first book, which is the least offensive of the three books. The second book of the trilogy is THE SUBTLE KNIFE and the third book is THE AMBER SPYGLASS. Each book gets worse and worse regarding Pullman's hatred of God. In the trilogy, a young girl becomes enmeshed in an epic struggle against a nefarious Church known as the Magisterium. Another character, an ex-nun, describes Christianity as "a very powerful and convincing mistake." As I understand it, in the last book, a boy and girl are depicted representing Adam and Eve and they kill God, who at times is called YAHWEH (which is definitely not Allah). Since the movie would seem mild if you viewed it, that's been done on purpose. They are hoping that unsuspecting parents will take their children to See the movie, that they will enjoy the movie and then the children will want the books for Christmas. That's the hook. Pullman says he wants the children to read the books and decide against God and the kingdom of heaven. If you decide that you do not want to support something like this, I suggest that you boycott the movie and the books. I googled a synopsis of THE GOLDEN COMPASS. As I skimmed it, I couldn't believe that in a children's book part of the story is about castration and female circumcision. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.