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1. 05:53 PM - Re: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs (KenWHyde@aol.com)
2. 06:38 PM - Re: Re: electric car (yourtcfg@aol.com)
3. 07:38 PM - Re: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs (Robert Feldtman)
4. 08:22 PM - Re: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs (nico css)
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Subject: | Re: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs |
I'll take 6
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Subject: | Re: electric car |
That is exactly what I was eluding to in my post.? I don't think you ca gain any
real round unless you produce the electricity from a non polluting nuke plant.?
jb
The argument for electric cars has to take in to account how the electricity is
produced and at what cost. The cars themselves are non polluting but if you're
using a coal fired plant to produce the electricity then you're just shifting
the pollution elsewhere (out of sight, out of mind?).
-----Original Message-----
From: Cate Chagnot <cchagnot@ultimateair.com>
Sent: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 8:45 pm
Subject: Commander-List: Re: electric car
Hi Guys,
I made a presentation last Thursday in Cheonju, South Korea at a renewable
energy conference. One of the presenters was from a lab in Germany that has
really advanced development of direct methane fuel cells.
>From what I can remember about the presentation the cost is running around
$8000/kilowatt for 1 to 2 kilowatt models and they're still having problems with
life of the fuel cell with recent versions running around 2000 hours before the
cell has to be replaced. Advancements are bound to come but they weren't
addressing the cost of fuel production, nor it's distribution. I can't remember
exactly what the efficiencies were but I think they're in the low 20% range if
that. I think it'll be awhile before we see practical fuel cells powering
vehicles. Solar cells have bottomed out around $3 /watt and once you add the
installation and electronics cost it's around $6/watt.
The argument for electric cars has to take in to account how the electricity is
produced and at what cost. The cars themselves are non polluting but if you're
using a coal fired plant to produce the electricity then you're just shifting
the pollution elsewhere (out of sight, out of mind?). If you use smaller,
localized biomass burning power plants to produce the electricity then not only
do you have 'net-zero' CO2 production (what you put into the atmosphere comes
out to grow the plant material) but you can take advantage of the reject heat of
power production in a CHP cycle to increase your overall efficiency of energy
usage.
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Cate
N4278S 680E
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Subject: | Re: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs |
Nico - Just ordered your 6 mug faith set. Plan on my ordering 4 commander
mugs. Probably the genereic. Let us know and how to order when they are
ready.
thanks
bobf
On 12/8/07, nico css <nico@cybersuperstore.com> wrote:
>
> I had a fairly good response for Commander mugs, thanks guys. Some
> requested to see them before we put them into a kiln - I think that would
be
> prudent, so I'll mock up some designs and have you folks pick the best
> (perhaps a competition?) and then we will burn those. My gut-feel tells m
e
> they should be of original design, so perhaps we could use our own pictur
es,
> what do you say? We can manufacture one-offs, too, and personalize them.
> Just a thought. So, if you have a favorite picture you would like to see
on
> a coffee mug (mug on a mug?) send them to me, so we can start evaluating
the
> product. Say a generic range and one-offs for personalized ones.
>
> Thanks
> Nico
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Myron Ashley
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 08, 2007 5:57 AM
> *To:* commander-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Commander-List: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs
>
> I would take 6.
> Myron Ashley
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* nico css <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
> *To:* commander-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:07 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Commander-List: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs
>
> If you guys would be interested in purchasing Commander Mugs, I'll make a
> couple. I'd like to have an idea of quantity because there are fixed cost
s
> etc. Let me know, guys.
>
>
> Thanks for the plug, Steve. They are really nice.
>
>
> Nico
>
> www.faithmugs.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From:* owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve W
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 04, 2007 4:16 PM
> *To:* commander-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Commander-List: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs
>
>
> After all the political hooey of a week or so ago, I went to Nico's site
> looking for clues as to what makes the right tick. I knew he made mugs wi
th
> sayings on them, and seemed one of the more thoughtful.
>
>
> The first coffee mug I clicked on was the Beatitudes. I read a message of
> peace, justice and mercy. I'm not a religious man, and was not raised
> Christian. But I bought a mug anyway. Whether Christian, Muslim, Jew, or
> evil secular humanist; it's hard to argue with the message. I later found
> out the Beatitudes are among my wife's favorites. The 'Wisdom' mug, also
had
> some good stuff on it. Nico tossed one into my order, being the decent gu
y
> that he is.
>
>
> I'd like to give a plug to his company. (I REALLY DON'T want to start any
> political debate here.) The mugs make nice gifts. Can we get a mug with a
> Commander on them?
>
>
> Happy Hanukkah!
>
>
> Steve
>
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Subject: | Off Topic: Nico's Mugs |
Thanks, Bob. I'll let you all know when that's ready.
Nico
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert
Feldtman
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2007 7:37 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs
Nico - Just ordered your 6 mug faith set. Plan on my ordering 4 commander
mugs. Probably the genereic. Let us know and how to order when they are
ready.
thanks
bobf
On 12/8/07, nico css <nico@cybersuperstore.com> wrote:
I had a fairly good response for Commander mugs, thanks guys. Some requested
to see them before we put them into a kiln - I think that would be prudent,
so I'll mock up some designs and have you folks pick the best (perhaps a
competition?) and then we will burn those. My gut-feel tells me they should
be of original design, so perhaps we could use our own pictures, what do you
say? We can manufacture one-offs, too, and personalize them. Just a thought.
So, if you have a favorite picture you would like to see on a coffee mug
(mug on a mug?) send them to me, so we can start evaluating the product. Say
a generic range and one-offs for personalized ones.
Thanks
Nico
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com> ] On Behalf Of Myron
Ashley
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2007 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs
I would take 6.
Myron Ashley
----- Original Message -----
From: nico css <mailto:nico@cybersuperstore.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 9:07 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs
If you guys would be interested in purchasing Commander Mugs, I'll make a
couple. I'd like to have an idea of quantity because there are fixed costs
etc. Let me know, guys.
Thanks for the plug, Steve. They are really nice.
Nico
www.faithmugs.com
_____
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<mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com>
owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve W
Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 4:16 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Off Topic: Nico's Mugs
After all the political hooey of a week or so ago, I went to Nico's site
looking for clues as to what makes the right tick. I knew he made mugs with
sayings on them, and seemed one of the more thoughtful.
The first coffee mug I clicked on was the Beatitudes. I read a message of
peace, justice and mercy. I'm not a religious man, and was not raised
Christian. But I bought a mug anyway. Whether Christian, Muslim, Jew, or
evil secular humanist; it's hard to argue with the message. I later found
out the Beatitudes are among my wife's favorites. The 'Wisdom' mug, also had
some good stuff on it. Nico tossed one into my order, being the decent guy
that he is.
I'd like to give a plug to his company. (I REALLY DON'T want to start any
political debate here.) The mugs make nice gifts. Can we get a mug with a
Commander on them?
Happy Hanukkah!
Steve
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