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3. 08:15 AM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 (JTAddington)
4. 12:52 PM - Re: discrimination (Frits Abbing)
5. 01:13 PM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 (Tom Fisher)
6. 01:18 PM - Re: discrimination (BobsV35B@aol.com)
7. 01:37 PM - Re: discrimination (nico css)
8. 03:22 PM - 100 AGE LIMIT (lloyd SILVERMAN)
9. 03:38 PM - Re: discrimination (Bill Bow)
10. 05:08 PM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 (cloudcraft@aol.com)
11. 06:10 PM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 (JTAddington)
12. 08:59 PM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 (Tom Fisher)
13. 08:59 PM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 (Tom Fisher)
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Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 |
Bill
Which side of 65 are you coming from? :-))
Now on a more serious side. It seems to me that over the last couple of months
this site has drifted off course. I know we all have our cherished thoughts
on politics and religion. I appreciate a good religious and political discussion
about as much as anyone--especially if you are as intelligent as I and agree
with me a God fearing Conservative. However, on this site I personally am
more interested in Commander STUFF. I do not care to here any ignorant liberal
or atheist opinions and I am sure you nice folks who fit in that category
do not want to hear my thoughts--just Commander STUFF:-)))))))
Please Daddy tell me some more Commander stories--even if they are not true.
dan farmer
6369U
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1. 07:06 PM - discrimination (Bill Bow)
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Time: 07:06:51 PM PST US
From: "Bill Bow"
Subject: Commander-List: discrimination
President Bush has signed H.R. 4343 raising the mandatory pilot retirement
age from 60 to 65. Thursday, December 13.
Now some of us won't be fired until we are 65.
It's about damn time.
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I like that and agree wholeheartedly,
Happy Chanukah to all,
Let's get back to Twin Commander stuff,
Don
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Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07
Bill
Which side of 65 are you coming from? :-))
Now on a more serious side. It seems to me that over the last couple of
months this site has drifted off course. I know we all have our
cherished thoughts on politics and religion. I appreciate a good
religious and political discussion about as much as anyone--especially
if you are as intelligent as I and agree with me a God fearing
Conservative. However, on this site I personally am more interested in
Commander STUFF. I do not care to here any ignorant liberal or atheist
opinions and I am sure you nice folks who fit in that category do not
want to hear my thoughts--just Commander STUFF:-)))))))
Please Daddy tell me some more Commander stories--even if they are not
true.
dan farmer
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1. 07:06 PM - discrimination (Bill Bow)
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From: "Bill Bow"
Subject: Commander-List: discrimination
President Bush has signed H.R. 4343 raising the mandatory pilot
retirement
age from 60 to 65. Thursday, December 13.
Now some of us won't
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Dan, My Commander says it agrees with you on politics and religion, so do I.
Jim Addington
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Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07
Bill
Which side of 65 are you coming from? :-))
Now on a more serious side. It seems to me that over the last couple of
months this site has drifted off course. I know we all have our cherished
thoughts on politics and religion. I appreciate a good religious and
political discussion about as much as anyone--especially if you are as
intelligent as I and agree with me a God fearing Conservative. However, on
this site I personally am more interested in Commander STUFF. I do not care
to here any ignorant liberal or atheist opinions and I am sure you nice
folks who fit in that category do not want to hear my thoughts--just
Commander STUFF:-)))))))
Please Daddy tell me some more Commander stories--even if they are not true.
dan farmer
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From: "Bill Bow"
Subject: Commander-List: discrimination
President Bush has signed H.R. 4343 raising the mandatory pilot retirement
age from 60 to 65. Thursday, December 13.
Now some of us won't
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Bill,=0A=0AWhen you must/have to fly untill 65 there is not much room left
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OK, Commander stuff,
After smoking 2 brand new (25 hour) turbos due to a oil check valve
sticking closed, (now replaced), I am adding an enunciator panel with 9
rectangular labelled backlit lights.
Two per condition (left / right);
Turbo Oil Pressure, (will save me $4,400.00 next time)
Low Voltage, (I'm surprised there is not an existing one with the
Volt/Amp gauges),
Low Vacuum, (can't see the existing lights mounted in front of the
co-pilot's knees),
Starter Engaged, (a stretch I know but while at it...).
I am trying to get Hydraulic Pressure in there somewhere, any ideas on a
access point?
What is out there in enunciator panels for our era of aircraft
(modernized or not)?
Other than homebrew are there prefabricated enunciator panels in
existence?
Any other reasonable suggestions for adding to the list of lights for
critical conditions)?
There you go.
Tom
C-GISS
680FLP, (Mr.RPM)
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:36 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07
Bill
Which side of 65 are you coming from? :-))
Now on a more serious side. It seems to me that over the last couple
of months this site has drifted off course. I know we all have our
cherished thoughts on politics and religion. I appreciate a good
religious and political discussion about as much as anyone--especially
if you are as intelligent as I and agree with me a God fearing
Conservative. However, on this site I personally am more interested in
Commander STUFF. I do not care to here any ignorant liberal or atheist
opinions and I am sure you nice folks who fit in that category do not
want to hear my thoughts--just Commander STUFF:-)))))))
Please Daddy tell me some more Commander stories--even if they are not
true.
dan farmer
6369U
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1. 07:06 PM - discrimination (Bill Bow)
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From: "Bill Bow"
Subject: Commander-List: discrimination
President Bush has signed H.R. 4343 raising the mandatory pilot
retirement
age from 60 to 65. Thursday, December 13.
Now some of us won't
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Good Afternoon Frits,
Please excuse my butting in.
I have been retired for over eighteen years.
I think forcing retirement at age sixty was the stupidest thing our industry
ever did.
There are a few that should have retired at fifty! However most of us could
have safely flown much longer.
Personally, I think I could easily have flown commercially to seventy and
still been doing an excellent job.
I fly my Bonanza a couple of hundred hours a year.
IFR if, when, and as required.
I have no hesitation to fly to the published minima any time that is needed.
I have many friends who have taken jobs as corporate pilots just to keep in
the cockpit a few years longer. Most of them have been forced by insurance
companies to retire at age seventy, but none have ever experienced any problems
passing whatever annual check ride requirements were applied to their job.
The age sixty requirement was a political move made by a stupid retired Air
Force general who hated airline pilots. He was a friend of the then president
of American Airlines and when that president wanted to institute an age
requirement on his airline, he got the general (FAA head at the time) to make
it a
rule. There was absolutely NO history that showed a need for early
retirement at that time and there has never been an evaluation of pilot competency
beyond age sixty that has ever noted the need for early retirement as a general
rule. Some of the pilots in their late forties and early fifties have shown
cognitive loss and those pilots have been medically retired. That is just as
it should be.
Considering the regulatory monitoring that we all must endure and the
careful evaluation that our copilots make of our competency, I do not believe
there
should be any forced retirement age, but sixty-five is a LOT more practical
than was age sixty.
Give me a week or two to get back up to speed and I would happily take a
flight check in any of the nineteen aircraft for which I am rated!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 12/16/2007 2:53:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
fritsabbing@yahoo.com writes:
Bill,
When you must/have to fly untill 65 there is not much room left for
retirement.
Especially flying long haul.
I talk out of experience and here in the netherlands its still 56.
After that age and later your recovery is longer and its bad for your body.
If the whole flying is healthy anyway.
But I am glad I had and having that career.
How many years to go?
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: discrimination
Good Afternoon Frits,
Please excuse my butting in.
I have been retired for over eighteen years.
I think forcing retirement at age sixty was the stupidest thing our industry
ever did.
There are a few that should have retired at fifty! However most of us could
have safely flown much longer.
Personally, I think I could easily have flown commercially to seventy and
still been doing an excellent job.
I fly my Bonanza a couple of hundred hours a year.
IFR if, when, and as required.
I have no hesitation to fly to the published minima any time that is needed.
I have many friends who have taken jobs as corporate pilots just to keep in
the cockpit a few years longer. Most of them have been forced by insurance
companies to retire at age seventy, but none have ever experienced any
problems passing whatever annual check ride requirements were applied to
their job.
The age sixty requirement was a political move made by a stupid retired Air
Force general who hated airline pilots. He was a friend of the then
president of American Airlines and when that president wanted to institute
an age requirement on his airline, he got the general (FAA head at the time)
to make it a rule. There was absolutely NO history that showed a need for
early retirement at that time and there has never been an evaluation of
pilot competency beyond age sixty that has ever noted the need for early
retirement as a general rule. Some of the pilots in their late forties and
early fifties have shown cognitive loss and those pilots have been medically
retired. That is just as it should be.
Considering the regulatory monitoring that we all must endure and the
careful evaluation that our copilots make of our competency, I do not
believe there should be any forced retirement age, but sixty-five is a LOT
more practical than was age sixty.
Give me a week or two to get back up to speed and I would happily take a
flight check in any of the nineteen aircraft for which I am rated!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 12/16/2007 2:53:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
fritsabbing@yahoo.com writes:
Bill,
When you must/have to fly untill 65 there is not much room left for
retirement.
Especially flying long haul.
I talk out of experience and here in the netherlands its still 56.
After that age and later your recovery is longer and its bad for your body.
If the whole flying is healthy anyway.
But I am glad I had and having that career.
How many years to go?
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Fritz,
With the seniority I have, I can only say I don't work very hard. I think I
could keep this pace up for a long time.
Old Bob is exactly right. There is no data to support retirement at age 60.
Bilbo
Age- 54 (years young)
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Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: discrimination
Bill,
When you must/have to fly untill 65 there is not much room left for
retirement.
Especially flying long haul.
I talk out of experience and here in the netherlands its still 56.
After that age and later your recovery is longer and its bad for your body.
If the whole flying is healthy anyway.
But I am glad I had and having that career.
How many years to go?
regards
Frits Abbing N812SC
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From: Bill Bow <bowing74@earthlink.net>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 4:06:27 AM
Subject: Commander-List: discrimination
President Bush has signed H.R. 4343 raising the mandatory pilot retirement
age from 60 to 65. Thursday, December 13.
Now some of us won?t be fired until we are 65.
It?s about damn time.
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Thankfully the Aussies and Canadians have put us back on course: Commander topics.
Tom,
Not sure when you'd want your hydraulic pressure annunciator to trip, but how about
wiring it off the pressure sensor that activates the electrical aux. hydraulic
pump?
If that light came on in flight, you'd be alerted to an abnormal condition in the
hydraulic system and could pull the aux pump breaker (if you were not a true
believer in the Gospel of disabling that pump any time the gear is up) and conserve
your remaining fluid.
As to a source for annunciator panels ... I have no idea, but I think there's going
to be some good suggestions from the old, decrepit, rabid, fundamentalist,
earth-warming infidels who populate this email net.
Wing Commander Gordon
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From: Tom Fisher <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07
OK, Commander stuff,
After smoking 2 brand new (25 hour) turbos due to a oil
check valve sticking closed, (now replaced), I am adding an enunciator panel
with 9 rectangular labelled?backlit lights.
Two?per condition?(left / right);
Turbo Oil Pressure, (will save me $4,400.00 next
time)
Low Voltage, (I'm surprised there is not an existing one
with the Volt/Amp gauges),
Low Vacuum, (can't see the existing lights?mounted in
front of the co-pilot's knees),
Starter Engaged, (a stretch I know but while at
it...).
I am trying to get Hydraulic Pressure in there somewhere,
any ideas on a access point?
?
What is out there in enunciator panels for our era of
aircraft (modernized?or not)?
Other than homebrew are there prefabricated enunciator
panels in existence?
Any other reasonable suggestions for adding to the list of
lights for critical conditions)?
?
There you go.
?
Tom
C-GISS
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I will open my mouth again, but, I have a friend that is with out a doubt
the best I have ever seen when it comes to electronics. He rebuilt the small
panel below the glare shield and put in an annunciator set up. He put a
guarded switch in the electric hydraulic pump with a red light to tell that
the switch was off. He also put a blue light in the system to tell me that
the pump was running. This was the first indication I had with the hydraulic
failures I had. Unfortunately he moved to Florida.
Jim Addington
500A
N444BD
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
cloudcraft@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:08 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07
Thankfully the Aussies and Canadians have put us back on course: Commander
topics.
Tom,
Not sure when you'd want your hydraulic pressure annunciator to trip, but
how about wiring it off the pressure sensor that activates the electrical
aux. hydraulic pump?
If that light came on in flight, you'd be alerted to an abnormal condition
in the hydraulic system and could pull the aux pump breaker (if you were not
a true believer in the Gospel of disabling that pump any time the gear is
up) and conserve your remaining fluid.
As to a source for annunciator panels ... I have no idea, but I think
there's going to be some good suggestions from the old, decrepit, rabid,
fundamentalist, earth-warming infidels who populate this email net.
Wing Commander Gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Fisher <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07
OK, Commander stuff,
After smoking 2 brand new (25 hour) turbos due to a oil check valve sticking
closed, (now replaced), I am adding an enunciator panel with 9 rectangular
labelled backlit lights.
Two per condition (left / right);
Turbo Oil Pressure, (will save me $4,400.00 next time)
Low Voltage, (I'm surprised there is not an existing one with the Volt/Amp
gauges),
Low Vacuum, (can't see the existing lights mounted in front of the
co-pilot's knees),
Starter Engaged, (a stretch I know but while at it...).
I am trying to get Hydraulic Pressure in there somewhere, any ideas on a
access point?
What is out there in enunciator panels for our era of aircraft (modernized
or not)?
Other than homebrew are there prefabricated enunciator panels in existence?
Any other reasonable suggestions for adding to the list of lights for
critical conditions)?
There you go.
Tom
C-GISS
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I like the idea of knowing when the pump is running (at any time) even
if around 800-900 Lbs.
Tom.
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From: cloudcraft@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs -
12/15/07
Thankfully the Aussies and Canadians have put us back on course:
Commander topics.
Tom,
Not sure when you'd want your hydraulic pressure annunciator to trip,
but how about wiring it off the pressure sensor that activates the
electrical aux. hydraulic pump?
If that light came on in flight, you'd be alerted to an abnormal
condition in the hydraulic system and could pull the aux pump breaker
(if you were not a true believer in the Gospel of disabling that pump
any time the gear is up) and conserve your remaining fluid.
As to a source for annunciator panels ... I have no idea, but I think
there's going to be some good suggestions from the old, decrepit, rabid,
fundamentalist, earth-warming infidels who populate this email net.
Wing Commander Gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Fisher <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs -
12/15/07
OK, Commander stuff,
After smoking 2 brand new (25 hour) turbos due to a oil check valve
sticking closed, (now replaced), I am adding an enunciator panel with 9
rectangular labelled backlit lights.
Two per condition (left / right);
Turbo Oil Pressure, (will save me $4,400.00 next time)
Low Voltage, (I'm surprised there is not an existing one with the
Volt/Amp gauges),
Low Vacuum, (can't see the existing lights mounted in front of the
co-pilot's knees),
Starter Engaged, (a stretch I know but while at it...).
I am trying to get Hydraulic Pressure in there somewhere, any ideas on
a access point?
What is out there in enunciator panels for our era of aircraft
(modernized or not)?
Other than homebrew are there prefabricated enunciator panels in
existence?
Any other reasonable suggestions for adding to the list of lights for
critical conditions)?
There you go.
Tom
C-GISS
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Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 |
Mine is basic but I will post pics if I can ever figure out how.
Tom.
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From: JTAddington
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:55 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs -
12/15/07
I will open my mouth again, but, I have a friend that is with out a
doubt the best I have ever seen when it comes to electronics. He rebuilt
the small panel below the glare shield and put in an annunciator set up.
He put a guarded switch in the electric hydraulic pump with a red light
to tell that the switch was off. He also put a blue light in the system
to tell me that the pump was running. This was the first indication I
had with the hydraulic failures I had. Unfortunately he moved to
Florida.
Jim Addington
500A
N444BD
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cloudcraft@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:08 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs -
12/15/07
Thankfully the Aussies and Canadians have put us back on course:
Commander topics.
Tom,
Not sure when you'd want your hydraulic pressure annunciator to trip,
but how about wiring it off the pressure sensor that activates the
electrical aux. hydraulic pump?
If that light came on in flight, you'd be alerted to an abnormal
condition in the hydraulic system and could pull the aux pump breaker
(if you were not a true believer in the Gospel of disabling that pump
any time the gear is up) and conserve your remaining fluid.
As to a source for annunciator panels ... I have no idea, but I think
there's going to be some good suggestions from the old, decrepit, rabid,
fundamentalist, earth-warming infidels who populate this email net.
Wing Commander Gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Fisher <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 1:10 pm
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs -
12/15/07
OK, Commander stuff,
After smoking 2 brand new (25 hour) turbos due to a oil check valve
sticking closed, (now replaced), I am adding an enunciator panel with 9
rectangular labelled backlit lights.
Two per condition (left / right);
Turbo Oil Pressure, (will save me $4,400.00 next time)
Low Voltage, (I'm surprised there is not an existing one with the
Volt/Amp gauges),
Low Vacuum, (can't see the existing lights mounted in front of the
co-pilot's knees),
Starter Engaged, (a stretch I know but while at it...).
I am trying to get Hydraulic Pressure in there somewhere, any ideas on
a access point?
What is out there in enunciator panels for our era of aircraft
(modernized or not)?
Other than homebrew are there prefabricated enunciator panels in
existence?
Any other reasonable suggestions for adding to the list of lights for
critical conditions)?
There you go.
Tom
C-GISS
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