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1. 02:35 AM - Re: discrimination (W J R HAMILTON)
2. 08:49 AM - Good chuckle... (nico css)
3. 08:50 AM - Maine Tax (Don)
4. 10:20 AM - Re: Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 (David Owens)
5. 10:33 AM - Re: Re: electric car (David Owens)
6. 12:35 PM - Fw: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography company in the Tampa, FL area (cloudcraft@aol.com)
7. 02:04 PM - Re: Fw: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography company in the Tampa, FL area (Steve W)
8. 02:17 PM - Re: Fw: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography company in the Tampa, FL area (Steve W)
9. 03:43 PM - Re: Fw: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography company in the Tampa, FL area (cloudcraft@aol.com)
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Subject: | Re: discrimination |
Folks,
Bob is spot on about the history, the then President of American
Airlines lost a court battle with his pilots, so turned to his old
buddy, (General) "Pete" Quesada,
first FAA Administrator. And the "age 60" rule was born!! Surprise,
Surprise, on retirement from the FAA, Pete wound up on the AA Board.
We have never had a hard retiring age for any category of license
down here in Australia, although until recently, over 60 was pretty
much limited to Australian national airspace.
A dear friend of mine, now 76, is still flying as a Check Airman on
C-47/DC-3, one aircraft he is currently flying, he first flew in
Papua Nui Guinea in 1945, in his first civil job after de-mob from
the RAAF. He was a top notch "stick and rudder" man when I first made
his acquaintance about 40 years ago, and he still is!!
He can still make a T-6 stand up and whistle Dixie.
Cheers,
Bill Hamilton
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At 08:17 17/12/2007, you wrote:
>Good Afternoon Frits,
>
>Please excuse my butting in.
>
>I have been retired for over eighteen years.
>
>I think forcing retirement at age sixty was the stupidest thing our
>industry ever did.
>
>There are a few that should have retired at fifty! However most of
>us could have safely flown much longer.
>
>Personally, I think I could easily have flown commercially to
>seventy and still been doing an excellent job.
>
>I fly my Bonanza a couple of hundred hours a year.
>
>IFR if, when, and as required.
>
>I have no hesitation to fly to the published minima any time that is
>needed. I have many friends who have taken jobs as corporate pilots
>just to keep in the cockpit a few years longer. Most of them have
>been forced by insurance companies to retire at age seventy, but
>none have ever experienced any problems passing whatever annual
>check ride requirements were applied to their job.
>
>The age sixty requirement was a political move made by a stupid
>retired Air Force general who hated airline pilots. He was a friend
>of the then president of American Airlines and when that president
>wanted to institute an age requirement on his airline, he got the
>general (FAA head at the time) to make it a rule. There was
>absolutely NO history that showed a need for early retirement at
>that time and there has never been an evaluation of pilot competency
>beyond age sixty that has ever noted the need for early retirement
>as a general rule. Some of the pilots in their late forties and
>early fifties have shown cognitive loss and those pilots have been
>medically retired. That is just as it should be.
>
>Considering the regulatory monitoring that we all must endure and
>the careful evaluation that our copilots make of our competency, I
>do not believe there should be any forced retirement age, but
>sixty-five is a LOT more practical than was age sixty.
>
>Give me a week or two to get back up to speed and I would happily
>take a flight check in any of the nineteen aircraft for which I am rated!
>
>Happy Skies,
>
>Old Bob
>AKA
>Bob Siegfried
>Ancient Aviator
>Stearman N3977A
>Brookeridge Air Park LL22
>Downers Grove, IL 60516
>630 985-8503
>
>In a message dated 12/16/2007 2:53:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
>fritsabbing@yahoo.com writes:
>Bill,
>
>When you must/have to fly untill 65 there is not much room left for
>retirement.
>Especially flying long haul.
>I talk out of experience and here in the netherlands its still 56.
>After that age and later your recovery is longer and its bad for your body.
>If the whole flying is healthy anyway.
>But I am glad I had and having that career.
>How many years to go?
>
>
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Read in Avweb this morning...
Returning to Republic Airport in Farmingdale, New York on New Year's Day, I
heard the following exchange on the air between the tower controller and the
pilot of a Piper Arrow:
Arrow:
"Republic tower, Arrow One Two Three Four Five, eight miles north, inbound
with India."
Tower:
"Arrow Three Four Five, report right downwind runway 32."
Arrow:
"Any chance we can get a straight in?"
Tower:
"You said you were north, didn't you?"
Arrow:
"Yes, seven miles north."
Tower:
"Arrow Three Four Five, the only way I can give you a straight in for Runway
32 is if you turn north and continue for about 24,000 miles."
[pause]
Arrow:
"Uh, okay. Sorry. Happy New Year ... ."
Daniel A. Torres
Baldwin, New York
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Maine Tax Explained - By Maine
Aircraft owners can still explore the wonders of Maine without
being taxed on their airplane but they do have to follow the rules,
according to a senior Maine tax official. David Bauer, of Maine's Bureau
of Revenue Services, told AVweb his department and other government
offices have received "huge volumes of e-mail and phone calls" since
AVweb carried the story about Massachusetts resident Steve Kahn's battle
with Maine over its "User Tax." Bauer said the story left the incorrect
impression that any visit by an out-of-state aircraft would trigger the
tax. "The bottom line is that you should plan carefully if you intend to
fly into Maine, and spend more than 20 days in Maine, within one year
after the initial purchase of your aircraft and you have not paid a
sales or use tax on the aircraft in another state," Bauer said.
There's nothing new about Maine's use tax and it also applies to
other items of "tangible personal property" like boats (with a 30-day
grace period) and, in certain circumstances, cars. Aircraft are perhaps
easier to track than other items because most flights leave an FAA paper
trail. However, the tax does not apply to any item purchased more than a
year before its entry to Maine. There's also an exemption for aircraft
undergoing "necessary" repairs or maintenance (paint and interior work
don't count, for the most part). But Bauer said the vast majority of
aircraft owners need not fear the tax. "In most situations, nonresidents
flying into Maine do not owe the tax and are not at risk of being
assessed," he said. "There are circumstances where a tax will be due,
but that is the exception, not the rule." Bauer has promised to
enlighten us on Maine's justification for the tax next week.
Click here for the details of Maine's use tax.
This is in the latest article of AVwebFlash on the Maine taxes,
think it helps some!
Don
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Subject: | Re: Commander-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 12/15/07 |
hehehe
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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Subject: | Re: electric car |
Hehehehe... Hopefully to the other side we will not be bothered too soon
with an "e-test" of our Commanders, BUT I must admit that 500-A's would look
pretty sexxy with that cat bolted onto the exhaust stacks... Might get rid
of that pesky cowl flap setting...
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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Subject: | Fwd: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography |
company in the Tampa, FL area
I know we have at least two aerial photo outfits on this net.? Anyone able to
help out my friend?
Wing Commander Gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: dbavn@AOL.COM
Sent: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:04 pm
Subject: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography company in the
Tampa, FL area
Does anyone have a suggestion as to who we could contact to do an aerial photo
survey of some property in the Tampa, FL area?
Thanks very much,
Dick
Dick Bares - APA
DB Services
303 888 9921
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography |
company in the Tampa, FL area
Photo Science has a Georgia office and I know keep a couple of aircraft
there. I met one of the guys out of a St. Pete office at an industry
convention. They do aerial mapping.
Aerial Cartographics is on the east coast, if I remember right. I'll get
some names and numbers in a jiffy.....
Course neither one uses Commanders. I think Air Photographics is still
using them out of West Virginny. Dave Owen might have some more info.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: cloudcraft@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an
aerial photography company in the Tampa, FL area
I know we have at least two aerial photo outfits on this net. Anyone
able to help out my friend?
Wing Commander Gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: dbavn@AOL.COM
Sent: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:04 pm
Subject: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography
company in the Tampa, FL area
Does anyone have a suggestion as to who we could contact to do an
aerial photo survey of some property in the Tampa, FL area?
Thanks very much,
Dick
Dick Bares - APA
DB Services
303 888 9921
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography |
company in the Tampa, FL area
http://www.aca-net.com/index.htm
Aerial Cartographics out of Orlando. I think my Dad's buddy has long
since retired from there. Chuck Woodward out of LKB on Long Island. They
used to run Commanders doing all sorts of odd jobs.
http://www.photoscience.com/
Photo Science has an office right in St. Pete. (Wish I was in the harbor
on a sailboat there right now.) That might help facilitate the ground
portion of the survey. (Not that the other guys couldn't do just as god
a job.)
10033 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Street North , Suite 200
St. Petersburg, FL 33716
Phone 727-576-9500
Fax 727-576-9600
Doesn't hurt to tell either one Col-East sent him...... It's a small
industry.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: cloudcraft@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:29 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Fwd: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an
aerial photography company in the Tampa, FL area
I know we have at least two aerial photo outfits on this net. Anyone
able to help out my friend?
Wing Commander Gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: dbavn@AOL.COM
Sent: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:04 pm
Subject: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography
company in the Tampa, FL area
Does anyone have a suggestion as to who we could contact to do an
aerial photo survey of some property in the Tampa, FL area?
Thanks very much,
Dick
Dick Bares - APA
DB Services
303 888 9921
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial |
photography company in the Tampa, FL area
Thanks!? Am passing this info along.? Nothing better than inside information.
Wing Commander Gordon
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve W <steve2@sover.net>
Sent: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 2:16 pm
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Fwd: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography
company in the Tampa, FL area
http://www.aca-net.com/index.htm
?
Aerial Cartographics out of Orlando. I think my
Dad's buddy has long since retired from there. Chuck Woodward out of LKB on Long
Island. They used to run Commanders doing all sorts of odd jobs.
?
http://www.photoscience.com/
?
Photo Science has an office right in St. Pete.
(Wish I was in the harbor on a sailboat there right now.) That might help
facilitate the ground portion of the survey. (Not that the other guys couldn't
do just as god a job.)
10033 Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Street North , Suite 200
St.
Petersburg, FL 33716
Phone 727-576-9500
Fax 727-576-9600
Doesn't hurt to tell either one Col-East sent him...... It's a small
industry.
?
Steve
?
?
----- Original Message -----
From:
cloudcraft@aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 3:29
PM
Subject: Commander-List: Fwd:
[NBAA-avmgr] Request help finding an aerial photography company in the Tampa,
FL area
I know we have at least two aerial photo
outfits on this net.? Anyone able to help out my friend?
Wing
Commander Gordon
-----Original
Message-----
From: dbavn@AOL.COM
Sent: Mon, 17 Dec 2007 12:04
pm
Subject: [NBAA-avmgr] Request help
finding an aerial photography company in the Tampa, FL area
Does anyone have a suggestion as to who we could contact to do an aerial
photo survey of some property in the Tampa, FL area?
Thanks very
much,
Dick
Dick Bares - APA
DB Services
303 888
9921
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