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     1. 07:02 AM - Re: Commander Heater Photos (Tom Fisher)
     2. 08:03 AM - Happy New Year! (David Owens)
     3. 09:18 AM - GNS-480 (Steve at Col-East)
     4. 09:50 AM - Re: GNS-480 (dphifer)
     5. 10:18 AM - Re: Happy New Year! (yourtcfg@aol.com)
     6. 10:38 AM - Re: Happy New Year! (JTAddington)
     7. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: GNS-480 (Steve W)
     8. 10:21 PM - marshalling (Dan Brady)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Commander Heater Photos | 
      
      
      Thanks Moe, the images turned out great,
      If you also have any showing the routing of all the air ducts then we can 
      figure out what we can pull out in the way of old plumbing and components 
      related to the pressurization and air conditioning both of which I no longer 
      have.
      Tom.
      C-GISS
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "Moe - Ross Racing Pistons" <moe@rosspistons.com>
      Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 11:57 AM
      Subject: Commander-List: Commander Heater Photos
      
      
      >
      > Sorry these are so late.  N680RR was locked in the hanger where the annual
      > is being done.
      >
      > Moe
      >
      > DSCN1105
      > DSCN1100
      > DSCN1101
      > DSCN1102
      > DSCN1103
      > DSCN1104
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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       FIREARM REFRESHER COURSE
             
             
                 1. An armed  person is a citizen.  An unarmed person is a 
      subject.
             
                 2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
             
                 3. Gun control is not about guns; it is about control.
             
                 4. If guns are outlawed, can citizens use swords?
             
                 5. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
             
                 6. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
             
                 7. If you do not know your rights, you do not deserve rights.
             
                 8  Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
             
                 9. The United States Constitution  (c) 1791.  All Rights 
      reserved.
             
                 10. What part of "shall not be infringed" is so confusing?
             
                 11. The second Amendment is in place, in case they ignore the 
      others.
             
                 12. Guns have only two enemies: rust and liberals.
             
                 13. Know guns, know peace and safety.  No guns, no peace nor 
      safety.
             
                 14. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-prayer.
             
                 15. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
             
                 16. Criminals love gun control--it makes their jobs safer.
             
                 17. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to 
      control them.
             
                 18. You only have the rights you are willing to fight and die 
      for.
             
                 19. Enforce the "gun control laws" we have, do not make more.
             
                 20. When the people's right to bear arms is taken away, the 
      people become slaves.
             
                 21. The American Revolution would never have happened with 
      gun control.
             
                 22. "...A government of the people, by the people, for the 
      people..."
             
                 PLEASE PASS THIS "REFRESHER" TO 10 FREE CITIZENS
      
      
      David Owens
      Aerial Viewpoint
      N14AV
      AC-500A-Colemill
      
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      Looks like Garmin is discontinuing the GNS-480. It's a hell of a box and 
      a lot smarter than I am (but some of you knew that.) You can almost get 
      the thing to cook breakfast for you with the right programming. Smart 
      people (and airline pilots) liked it for it's similarity to FMS systems. 
      But it was a niche product, and it seems with Garmin having mined the 
      smarts of the WAAS stuff out of the Apollo CNX-80, and WAAS enabled the 
      430/530, the 480 wasn't long for this world.
      
      This news probably won't matter to most, but should be known for those 
      considering upgrades. Also, we added ChartView this year to the MX20 
      while we still could. Didn't know how long it would still be available 
      with the new MX200 out.
      
      Steve
      
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      Steve:
      
      Glad to know there is another Commander out there with a GNS-480.  I have one in
      my 500B and another in my C-182.  Great box.  Sad to see them discontinued,
      but they will likely serve us well for years to come.
      
      Happy New Year!
      
      -Dave
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=155567#155567
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Happy New Year! | 
      
      AMEN, AMEN!!?? jb
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: David Owens <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
      Sent: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 8:00 am
      Subject: Commander-List: Happy New Year!
      
      
      ?FIREARM REFRESHER COURSE
      ???????
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 1. An armed? person is a citizen.? An unarmed person is a subject.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 3. Gun control is not about guns; it is about control.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 4. If guns are outlawed, can citizens use swords?
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 5. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 6. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 7. If you do not know your rights, you do not deserve rights.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 8? Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 9. The United States Constitution? (c) 1791.? All Rights reserved.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 10. What part of "shall not be infringed" is so confusing?
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 11. The second Amendment is in place, in case they ignore the others.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 12. Guns have only two enemies: rust and liberals.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 13. Know guns, know peace and safety.? No guns, no peace nor safety.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 14. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-prayer.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 15. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 16. Criminals love gun control--it makes their jobs safer.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 17. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control
      them.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 18. You only have the rights you are willing to fight and die for.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 19. Enforce the "gun control laws" we have, do not make more.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 20. When the people's right to bear arms is taken away, the people become
      slaves.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 21. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control.
      ???????
      ??????? ?? 22. "...A government of the people, by the people, for the people..."
      ???????
      ??????? ?? PLEASE PASS THIS "REFRESHER" TO 10 FREE CITIZENS
      
      
      ?
      
      ?
      
      ?
      
      ?
      
      David Owens
      Aerial Viewpoint
      N14AV
      AC-500A-Colemill
      
      
      ________________________________________________________________________
      
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      Through my name on the AMEN list too.
      
      Jim Addington
      
      
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      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
      yourtcfg@aol.com
      Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:18 PM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Happy New Year!
      
      
      AMEN, AMEN!!   jb
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: David Owens <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
      Sent: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 8:00 am
      Subject: Commander-List: Happy New Year!
      
       FIREARM REFRESHER COURSE
             
             
                 1. An armed  person is a citizen.  An unarmed person is a
      subject.
             
                 2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone.
             
                 3. Gun control is not about guns; it is about control.
             
                 4. If guns are outlawed, can citizens use swords?
             
                 5. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words.
             
                 6. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms.
             
                 7. If you do not know your rights, you do not deserve rights.
             
                 8  Those who trade liberty for security have neither.
             
                 9. The United States Constitution  (c) 1791.  All Rights
      reserved.
             
                 10. What part of "shall not be infringed" is so confusing?
             
                 11. The second Amendment is in place, in case they ignore the
      others.
             
                 12. Guns have only two enemies: rust and liberals.
             
                 13. Know guns, know peace and safety.  No guns, no peace nor
      safety.
             
                 14. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-prayer.
             
                 15. Assault is a behavior, not a device.
             
                 16. Criminals love gun control--it makes their jobs safer.
             
                 17. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to
      control them.
             
                 18. You only have the rights you are willing to fight and die
      for.
             
                 19. Enforce the "gun control laws" we have, do not make more.
             
                 20. When the people's right to bear arms is taken away, the
      people become slaves.
             
                 21. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun
      control.
             
                 22. "...A government of the people, by the people, for the
      people..."
             
                 PLEASE PASS THIS "REFRESHER" TO 10 FREE CITIZENS
      
      
      David Owens
      Aerial Viewpoint
      N14AV
      AC-500A-Colemill
      
      
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      Dave,
      
      It's been a good instrument for us. I still have mixed feelings about 
      running com's, nav's, transponder, all through the same interface. We got 
      the TIS/B traffic avoidance because of the kind of work we do, and that has 
      been great. But in busy airspace like New York or Boston, the traffic 
      pop-ups can be a real pain in the ass, as you can't do anything with the box 
      until you clear it. At 1200 feet over the Hudson river, the traffic scope 
      looks like a game of asteroids......
      
      That and doing the survey work you turn pretty tight sometimes (right David 
      Owen?). The TIS/B ends up calling a 'traffic alert' on yourself. Nothing 
      like being out in the middle of nowhere over the Adirondacks for hours, and 
      having the box suddenly yell out a traffic alert on yourself. (Honest, if 
      it's that close don't even tell me. Why die scared?)
      
      Steve
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: "dphifer" <dave@phifer-sys.com>
      Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:49 PM
      Subject: Commander-List: Re: GNS-480
      
      
      >
      > Steve:
      >
      > Glad to know there is another Commander out there with a GNS-480.  I have 
      > one in my 500B and another in my C-182.  Great box.  Sad to see them 
      > discontinued, but they will likely serve us well for years to come.
      >
      > Happy New Year!
      >
      > -Dave
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=155567#155567
      >
      >
      > 
      
      
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      Thanks sir Barry......I love starting a new year with a laugh. Dan
      
 
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