---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 01/02/08: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:02 AM - Re: Commander Heater Photos (Tom Fisher) 2. 08:03 AM - Happy New Year! (David Owens) 3. 09:18 AM - GNS-480 (Steve at Col-East) 4. 09:50 AM - Re: GNS-480 (dphifer) 5. 10:18 AM - Re: Happy New Year! (yourtcfg@aol.com) 6. 10:38 AM - Re: Happy New Year! (JTAddington) 7. 05:04 PM - Re: Re: GNS-480 (Steve W) 8. 10:21 PM - marshalling (Dan Brady) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:31 AM PST US From: "Tom Fisher" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Commander Heater Photos Thanks Moe, the images turned out great, If you also have any showing the routing of all the air ducts then we can figure out what we can pull out in the way of old plumbing and components related to the pressurization and air conditioning both of which I no longer have. Tom. C-GISS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Moe - Ross Racing Pistons" Sent: Tuesday, January 01, 2008 11:57 AM Subject: Commander-List: Commander Heater Photos > > Sorry these are so late. N680RR was locked in the hanger where the annual > is being done. > > Moe > > DSCN1105 > DSCN1100 > DSCN1101 > DSCN1102 > DSCN1103 > DSCN1104 > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:48 AM PST US From: "David Owens" Subject: Commander-List: Happy New Year! FIREARM REFRESHER COURSE 1. An armed person is a citizen. An unarmed person is a subject. 2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone. 3. Gun control is not about guns; it is about control. 4. If guns are outlawed, can citizens use swords? 5. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. 6. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms. 7. If you do not know your rights, you do not deserve rights. 8 Those who trade liberty for security have neither. 9. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved. 10. What part of "shall not be infringed" is so confusing? 11. The second Amendment is in place, in case they ignore the others. 12. Guns have only two enemies: rust and liberals. 13. Know guns, know peace and safety. No guns, no peace nor safety. 14. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-prayer. 15. Assault is a behavior, not a device. 16. Criminals love gun control--it makes their jobs safer. 17. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them. 18. You only have the rights you are willing to fight and die for. 19. Enforce the "gun control laws" we have, do not make more. 20. When the people's right to bear arms is taken away, the people become slaves. 21. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control. 22. "...A government of the people, by the people, for the people..." PLEASE PASS THIS "REFRESHER" TO 10 FREE CITIZENS David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:26 AM PST US From: "Steve at Col-East" Subject: Commander-List: GNS-480 Looks like Garmin is discontinuing the GNS-480. It's a hell of a box and a lot smarter than I am (but some of you knew that.) You can almost get the thing to cook breakfast for you with the right programming. Smart people (and airline pilots) liked it for it's similarity to FMS systems. But it was a niche product, and it seems with Garmin having mined the smarts of the WAAS stuff out of the Apollo CNX-80, and WAAS enabled the 430/530, the 480 wasn't long for this world. This news probably won't matter to most, but should be known for those considering upgrades. Also, we added ChartView this year to the MX20 while we still could. Didn't know how long it would still be available with the new MX200 out. Steve ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:08 AM PST US Subject: Commander-List: Re: GNS-480 From: "dphifer" Steve: Glad to know there is another Commander out there with a GNS-480. I have one in my 500B and another in my C-182. Great box. Sad to see them discontinued, but they will likely serve us well for years to come. Happy New Year! -Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=155567#155567 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:18:55 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Happy New Year! From: yourtcfg@aol.com AMEN, AMEN!!?? jb -----Original Message----- From: David Owens Sent: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 8:00 am Subject: Commander-List: Happy New Year! ?FIREARM REFRESHER COURSE ??????? ??????? ??????? ?? 1. An armed? person is a citizen.? An unarmed person is a subject. ??????? ??????? ?? 2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone. ??????? ??????? ?? 3. Gun control is not about guns; it is about control. ??????? ??????? ?? 4. If guns are outlawed, can citizens use swords? ??????? ??????? ?? 5. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. ??????? ??????? ?? 6. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms. ??????? ??????? ?? 7. If you do not know your rights, you do not deserve rights. ??????? ??????? ?? 8? Those who trade liberty for security have neither. ??????? ??????? ?? 9. The United States Constitution? (c) 1791.? All Rights reserved. ??????? ??????? ?? 10. What part of "shall not be infringed" is so confusing? ??????? ??????? ?? 11. The second Amendment is in place, in case they ignore the others. ??????? ??????? ?? 12. Guns have only two enemies: rust and liberals. ??????? ??????? ?? 13. Know guns, know peace and safety.? No guns, no peace nor safety. ??????? ??????? ?? 14. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-prayer. ??????? ??????? ?? 15. Assault is a behavior, not a device. ??????? ??????? ?? 16. Criminals love gun control--it makes their jobs safer. ??????? ??????? ?? 17. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them. ??????? ??????? ?? 18. You only have the rights you are willing to fight and die for. ??????? ??????? ?? 19. Enforce the "gun control laws" we have, do not make more. ??????? ??????? ?? 20. When the people's right to bear arms is taken away, the people become slaves. ??????? ??????? ?? 21. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control. ??????? ??????? ?? 22. "...A government of the people, by the people, for the people..." ??????? ??????? ?? PLEASE PASS THIS "REFRESHER" TO 10 FREE CITIZENS ? ? ? ? David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:46 AM PST US From: "JTAddington" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Happy New Year! Through my name on the AMEN list too. Jim Addington _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of yourtcfg@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Happy New Year! AMEN, AMEN!! jb -----Original Message----- From: David Owens Sent: Wed, 2 Jan 2008 8:00 am Subject: Commander-List: Happy New Year! FIREARM REFRESHER COURSE 1. An armed person is a citizen. An unarmed person is a subject. 2. A gun in the hand is better than a cop on the phone. 3. Gun control is not about guns; it is about control. 4. If guns are outlawed, can citizens use swords? 5. If guns cause crime, then pencils cause misspelled words. 6. Free men do not ask permission to bear arms. 7. If you do not know your rights, you do not deserve rights. 8 Those who trade liberty for security have neither. 9. The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved. 10. What part of "shall not be infringed" is so confusing? 11. The second Amendment is in place, in case they ignore the others. 12. Guns have only two enemies: rust and liberals. 13. Know guns, know peace and safety. No guns, no peace nor safety. 14. 911 - government sponsored Dial-a-prayer. 15. Assault is a behavior, not a device. 16. Criminals love gun control--it makes their jobs safer. 17. Only a government that is afraid of its citizens tries to control them. 18. You only have the rights you are willing to fight and die for. 19. Enforce the "gun control laws" we have, do not make more. 20. When the people's right to bear arms is taken away, the people become slaves. 21. The American Revolution would never have happened with gun control. 22. "...A government of the people, by the people, for the people..." PLEASE PASS THIS "REFRESHER" TO 10 FREE CITIZENS David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill _____ size=2 width="100%" align=center> ! ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 05:04:25 PM PST US From: "Steve W" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Re: GNS-480 Dave, It's been a good instrument for us. I still have mixed feelings about running com's, nav's, transponder, all through the same interface. We got the TIS/B traffic avoidance because of the kind of work we do, and that has been great. But in busy airspace like New York or Boston, the traffic pop-ups can be a real pain in the ass, as you can't do anything with the box until you clear it. At 1200 feet over the Hudson river, the traffic scope looks like a game of asteroids...... That and doing the survey work you turn pretty tight sometimes (right David Owen?). The TIS/B ends up calling a 'traffic alert' on yourself. Nothing like being out in the middle of nowhere over the Adirondacks for hours, and having the box suddenly yell out a traffic alert on yourself. (Honest, if it's that close don't even tell me. Why die scared?) Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "dphifer" Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 12:49 PM Subject: Commander-List: Re: GNS-480 > > Steve: > > Glad to know there is another Commander out there with a GNS-480. I have > one in my 500B and another in my C-182. Great box. Sad to see them > discontinued, but they will likely serve us well for years to come. > > Happy New Year! > > -Dave > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=155567#155567 > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:51 PM PST US From: "Dan Brady" Subject: Commander-List: marshalling Thanks sir Barry......I love starting a new year with a laugh. 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