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Fri 01/11/08


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 08:34 AM - Re: Fw: New web site up (David Owens)
     2. 08:41 AM - Props (JTAddington)
     3. 12:44 PM - FW: Next Saturday I will be watching !! (nico css)
     4. 01:05 PM - FW: Men's vs. Women's Brains (nico css)
     5. 02:20 PM -  (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
     6. 04:11 PM - engine out (Dan Farmer)
     7. 05:00 PM - Re: engine out (John Vormbaum)
     8. 06:33 PM - Re: engine out (Don)
     9. 08:08 PM - Re: engine out (nico css)
    10. 08:51 PM - Re: engine out (JTAddington)
    11. 09:04 PM - Re: engine out (Don)
    12. 09:04 PM - Re: engine out (Tom Fisher)
    13. 09:13 PM - Re: engine out (JTAddington)
    14. 10:38 PM - Re: engine out (Robert S. Randazzo)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:34:20 AM PST US
    From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: New web site up
    Yea, W JR, The Quantas guys needed a plunger that day... hehehe David Owens Aerial Viewpoint N14AV AC-500A-Colemill


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    Time: 08:41:41 AM PST US
    From: "JTAddington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
    Subject: Props
    Like I said, don't worry about the overhaul time on Hartzell props, they would put out an AD before you hit the time. I got the new AD yesterday. Fortunately at least I hope this one is just a clarification of an earlier one. Jim Addington N444BD


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    Time: 12:44:29 PM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: FW: Next Saturday I will be watching !!
    MARK YOUR CALENDAR FOR NEXT SATURDAY. As you may already know, it is a sin for a Muslim male to see any woman other than his wife naked, and that he must commit suicide if he does. So next Saturday at 2 PM. Eastern Time all American women are asked to walk out of their houses completely naked to help weed out any neighborhood terrorists. Circling your block for one hour is recommended for this anti-terrorist effort. All men are to position themselves in lawn chairs in front of their house to prove they are not Muslims, and to demonstrate they think it's okay to see nude women other than their wife and to show support for all American women. Since Islam also does not approve of alcohol, a cold 6-pack at your side is further proof of your anti-Muslim sentiment. The American government appreciates your efforts to root out terrorists and applauds your participation in this anti-terrorist activity. God bless America. It is your patriotic duty to pass this on.


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    Time: 01:05:01 PM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: FW: Men's vs. Women's Brains
    Subject: Men's vs. Women's Brains <http://marriageresourcecenter.org/videogallery/4/med/VideoWidget8.htm> http://marriageresourcecenter.org/videogallery/4/med/VideoWidget8.htm


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    Time: 02:20:26 PM PST US
    From: MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala@MSN.COM>
    Subject:
    russel/moe have fuel drains here at office. pls adv add to ship moe and the will be off via fed ex monday. gmc


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    Time: 04:11:21 PM PST US
    From: Dan Farmer <daniellfarmer@yahoo.com>
    Subject: engine out
    Bill H. You think a 747 is tough with one shut down you should try to take on a B52 with only seven engines left---just death defying:-) Tylor, thanks for the heads up on the phot of 69U, use it all you like. dan --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.


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    Time: 05:00:15 PM PST US
    From: John Vormbaum <john@vormbaum.com>
    Subject: Re: engine out
    I've heard some of the horror stories of the dreaded 7-engine approach. Our men and women in uniform truly are the bravest! Dan Farmer wrote: > Bill H. > > You think a 747 is tough with one shut down you should try to take on > a B52 with only seven engines left---just death defying:-) > > Tylor, thanks for the heads up on the phot of 69U, use it all you like. > > dan > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > * > > > *


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    Time: 06:33:50 PM PST US
    From: "Don" <dongirod@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: engine out
    I knew a 105 driver who called in 'Bingo Fuel' and was vectored in behind a B-52 making the dreaded 7 engine approach. He wasn't very happy, but he made it, so made for a happy ending. Bill H., that wasn't you that had the "first class drain problem" was it? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: engine out > > I've heard some of the horror stories of the dreaded 7-engine approach. > Our men and women in uniform truly are the bravest! > > Dan Farmer wrote: > > Bill H. > > > > You think a 747 is tough with one shut down you should try to take on > > a B52 with only seven engines left---just death defying:-) > > > > Tylor, thanks for the heads up on the phot of 69U, use it all you like. > > > > dan > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > * > > > > > > * > > > -- 10:19 AM > >


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    Time: 08:08:10 PM PST US
    From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com>
    Subject: engine out
    Never heard of Bingo Fuel. To avoid reminding everyone that I am an asshole, I looked it up before asking and found this interesting article. http://www.ac-119gunships.com/stories/story7.htm Thanks Nico -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: engine out I knew a 105 driver who called in 'Bingo Fuel' and was vectored in behind a B-52 making the dreaded 7 engine approach. He wasn't very happy, but he made it, so made for a happy ending. Bill H., that wasn't you that had the "first class drain problem" was it? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: engine out > > I've heard some of the horror stories of the dreaded 7-engine approach. > Our men and women in uniform truly are the bravest! > > Dan Farmer wrote: > > Bill H. > > > > You think a 747 is tough with one shut down you should try to take on > > a B52 with only seven engines left---just death defying:-) > > > > Tylor, thanks for the heads up on the phot of 69U, use it all you like. > > > > dan > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > * > > > > > > * > > > -- 10:19 AM > >


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    Time: 08:51:29 PM PST US
    From: "JTAddington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
    Subject: engine out
    We were down to five engines on the B-47 one night. Scared me to death and I am darn near fearless. You just have to remember it is rudder, rudder, rudder. Jim A _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Farmer Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:10 PM Subject: Commander-List: engine out Bill H. You think a 747 is tough with one shut down you should try to take on a B52 with only seven engines left---just death defying:-) Tylor, thanks for the heads up on the phot of 69U, use it all you like. dan _____ Be a better friend, newshound, and


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    Time: 09:04:18 PM PST US
    From: "Don" <dongirod@bellsouth.net>
    Subject: Re: engine out
    Never heard of Bingo Fuel. Nico; Bingo fuel just gets you to the head of the pack, kind of like declaring an emergency. I did have a medical emergency once and was quite impressed at the handling. My instructions were: "Maintain 10K, speed at your discretion, call descent for landing" they gave me the T/O runway for landing, just stopped departures until I was clear of the runway. Really worked out great, and I hope the guy with the heart attack appreciated it. Many years ago, a friend flying an RB-66 was running on fumes and cut Air Force One out of the pattern with LBJ on board. ( single runway, think it was Lajes or Bermuda) Needless to say, they were met on the ground and the tanks manually 'stuck' to check the fuel. Was less fuel on board than even they thought they had, but Mr. Johnson was quite upset he had to go around. Isn't ego wonderful? I've along with several other carriers have had to hold until Air Force One finished taxiing and was parked, they completely shut down the airport, (makes me glad they normally use military airports) all in the name of security and I don't think they have ever had a security breech from an American carrier, at least not until 9-11 if you count that as a security breech. Don


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    Time: 09:04:22 PM PST US
    From: "Tom Fisher" <tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca>
    Subject: Re: engine out
    In our search and rescue operations we use the term "Bingo fuel" to define the TIME we have to leave the furthest point of the search area that we had been assign to in order to be on the ground with the appropriate fuel reserves. Tom F. 680FLP (Mr.RPM) ----- Original Message ----- From: "nico css" <nico@cybersuperstore.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 8:07 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: engine out > <nico@cybersuperstore.com> > > Never heard of Bingo Fuel. To avoid reminding everyone that I am an > asshole, > I looked it up before asking and found this interesting article. > > http://www.ac-119gunships.com/stories/story7.htm > > Thanks > > Nico > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:31 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Commander-List: engine out > > > I knew a 105 driver who called in 'Bingo Fuel' and was vectored in behind > a > B-52 making the dreaded 7 engine approach. He wasn't very happy, but he > made it, so made for a happy ending. > > Bill H., that wasn't you that had the "first class drain problem" was it? > > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com> > To: <commander-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: Commander-List: engine out > > >> >> I've heard some of the horror stories of the dreaded 7-engine approach. >> Our men and women in uniform truly are the bravest! >> >> Dan Farmer wrote: >> > Bill H. >> > >> > You think a 747 is tough with one shut down you should try to take on >> > a B52 with only seven engines left---just death defying:-) >> > >> > Tylor, thanks for the heads up on the phot of 69U, use it all you >> > like. >> > >> > dan >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > Be a better friend, newshound, and >> > * >> > >> > >> > * >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- > 10:19 AM >> >> > > >


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    Time: 09:13:30 PM PST US
    From: "JTAddington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
    Subject: engine out
    Good story Nico. -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of nico css Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 10:07 PM Subject: RE: Commander-List: engine out Never heard of Bingo Fuel. To avoid reminding everyone that I am an asshole, I looked it up before asking and found this interesting article. http://www.ac-119gunships.com/stories/story7.htm Thanks Nico -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: engine out I knew a 105 driver who called in 'Bingo Fuel' and was vectored in behind a B-52 making the dreaded 7 engine approach. He wasn't very happy, but he made it, so made for a happy ending. Bill H., that wasn't you that had the "first class drain problem" was it? Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com> Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: engine out > > I've heard some of the horror stories of the dreaded 7-engine approach. > Our men and women in uniform truly are the bravest! > > Dan Farmer wrote: > > Bill H. > > > > You think a 747 is tough with one shut down you should try to take on > > a B52 with only seven engines left---just death defying:-) > > > > Tylor, thanks for the heads up on the phot of 69U, use it all you like. > > > > dan > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Be a better friend, newshound, and > > * > > > > > > * > > > -- 10:19 AM > >


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    Time: 10:38:11 PM PST US
    From: "Robert S. Randazzo" <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
    Subject: engine out
    Don- When I was based out of DC- we interacted with them quite a bit in the same airspace. The pilots are just as good a bunch as the rest of us once in the air. It's the admin Air Force types and the security admins you gotta watch out for. They are so worried about their jobs they don't bother to think in terms of real world consequences.... Take for example the ADIZ. Now *there* is a process that was invented by chair warmers and bears no resemblance to reality. Rob -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Don Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 9:01 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: engine out Never heard of Bingo Fuel. Nico; Bingo fuel just gets you to the head of the pack, kind of like declaring an emergency. I did have a medical emergency once and was quite impressed at the handling. My instructions were: "Maintain 10K, speed at your discretion, call descent for landing" they gave me the T/O runway for landing, just stopped departures until I was clear of the runway. Really worked out great, and I hope the guy with the heart attack appreciated it. Many years ago, a friend flying an RB-66 was running on fumes and cut Air Force One out of the pattern with LBJ on board. ( single runway, think it was Lajes or Bermuda) Needless to say, they were met on the ground and the tanks manually 'stuck' to check the fuel. Was less fuel on board than even they thought they had, but Mr. Johnson was quite upset he had to go around. Isn't ego wonderful? I've along with several other carriers have had to hold until Air Force One finished taxiing and was parked, they completely shut down the airport, (makes me glad they normally use military airports) all in the name of security and I don't think they have ever had a security breech from an American carrier, at least not until 9-11 if you count that as a security breech. Don __________ NOD32 2785 (20080111) Information __________




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