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1. 05:03 AM - Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East)
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4. 06:03 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East)
5. 08:40 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (yourtcfg@aol.com)
6. 09:01 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com)
7. 10:27 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East)
8. 10:38 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East)
9. 10:51 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (John Vormbaum)
10. 10:57 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com)
11. 11:47 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East)
12. 12:20 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (John Vormbaum)
13. 07:08 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (nico css)
14. 07:14 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (nico css)
15. 07:16 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com)
16. 07:49 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com)
17. 07:51 PM - Info and Specs on turbine commanders (asgroup@tampabay.rr.com)
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19. 09:36 PM - Re: Info and Specs on turbine commanders (nico css)
20. 10:03 PM - Re: Info and Specs on turbine commanders (John Vormbaum)
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Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in
Spokane? Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip file with
photos on our website. Save the zip file of Boeing pics.......
http://www.col-east.com/download.php
(There's also a wonderful recording of big band jazz by the United
States Airmen if you like that sort of stuff. That will only be up for a
few more days......)
Steve
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Good Morning Steve,
Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that
machine last summer.
It is even more impressive when seen in person.
Have you seen the time compressed video that shows it being assembled?
Truly an awesome sight and an awesome machine.
Incidentally, there is a 40B hanging in the Museum of Science And Industry
right next to a Boeing 727.
If you can't make it to Spokane, but do get forced into visiting mayor
idiot's city, make the best of a bad situation and take the opportunity to visit
the museum.
They also have a beautiful example of the Travel Air Mystery Ship. That was
the first airplane that Walter Beech built which was way ahead of it's time.
For those of you who might wonder what business this information has on a
Bonanza website, Walter Beech was one of the founders of the Travel Air
Corporation. The first airplane built under the Beechcraft name was the Model
17.
Why was the first effort named the Model 17?
Because it was originally the Travel Air Model 17.
When Curtiss Wright Corporation decided to get out of the smaller aircraft
business, they shut down the Travel Air Division. Walter was President of
that division and he asked permission to take the design with him to start a new
corporation called Beech Aircraft Corporation. Eighteen designs later, we got
the Bonanza.(That isn't precisely true because the numbers were played with
along the way, but that is how the model 35 number was chosen).
The last design built by the Travel Air Division of Curtiss Wright
Corporation was a large open cockpit bi-plane, the Model 16.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:04:09 A.M. Central Standard Time,
steve2@sover.net writes:
Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in
Spokane? Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip file with photos on
our
website. Save the zip file of Boeing pics.......
_http://www.col-east.com/download.php_ (http://www.col-east.com/download.php)
(There's also a wonderful recording of big band jazz by the United States
Airmen if you like that sort of stuff. That will only be up for a few more
days......)
Steve
**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list,
My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve mentioned
the 40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I was replying to
that list.
Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a marvelous
project.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,
BobsV35B@aol.com writes:
Good Morning Steve,
Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that
machine last summer.
It is even more impressive when seen in person.
**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain
oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the
Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list.
You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front
of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my
favorite of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one
on the ground.
I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was
something I didn't know.
Steve2
Steve Welebny
----- Original Message -----
From: BobsV35B@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list,
My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve
mentioned the 40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I
was replying to that list.
Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a
marvelous project.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,
BobsV35B@aol.com writes:
Good Morning Steve,
Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to
see that machine last summer.
It is even more impressive when seen in person.
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I have sat in the pilot seat!!? It is truly a work of art.? I delivered a Murphy
Moose to Libby Montana and we all stopped on the way back to look at it.? It
was ready to fly, but waiting on the FAA paperwork.? jb
Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in Spokane?
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve at Col-East <steve2@sover.net>
Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 5:02 am
Subject: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
?AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature"
Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in Spokane?
Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip file with photos on our website.
Save the zip file of Boeing pics.......
http://www.col-east.com/download.php
?
(There's also a wonderful recording of big band jazz by the United States Airmen
if you like that sort of stuff. That will only be up for a few more days......)
?
Steve
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Good Morning Steve,
As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you should try to
make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the Beechcraft Heritage Museum.
It has the very first Travel Air ever built. Serial number one Travel Air
1000. There a great examples of many other machines with which Walter was
associated.
Where are you located and what are you flying these days?
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
steve2@sover.net writes:
Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain
oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve that's
a pain in the ass on the Commander list.
You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of
the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of
the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the ground.
I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something
I didn't know.
Steve2
Steve Welebny
**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Hi Bob,
The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there.
I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid.
We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff.
More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers
volunteering at the museum. In between flying as photographer for my
dad, I had a great backgound working on aircraft and getting some Cub
and Champ time, and other stuff. Live in Vermont now, and just flying
Col-East's 500B, although over Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis.
(I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans though.....)
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: BobsV35B@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Good Morning Steve,
As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you should
try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the Beechcraft
Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever built. Serial
number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples of many other
machines with which Walter was associated.
Where are you located and what are you flying these days?
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
steve2@sover.net writes:
Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to
attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it.
I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list.
You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in
front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000
is my favorite of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close
to one on the ground.
I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was
something I didn't know.
Steve2
Steve Welebny
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Living.
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Lucky dog!
----- Original Message -----
From: yourtcfg@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
I have sat in the pilot seat!! It is truly a work of art. I
delivered a Murphy Moose to Libby Montana and we all stopped on the way
back to look at it. It was ready to fly, but waiting on the FAA
paperwork. jb
Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out
in Spokane?
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve at Col-East <steve2@sover.net>
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 5:02 am
Subject: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature"
Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in
Spokane? Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip file with
photos on our website. Save the zip file of Boeing pics.......
http://www.col-east.com/download.php
(There's also a wonderful recording of big band jazz by the United
States Airmen if you like that sort of stuff. That will only be up for a
few more days......)
Steve
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Steve,
Although I'm a California boy now, I grew up on Long Island. My family
still has the summer home/private beach on the north shore, Northport. I
go back every year. I've been to the Cradle of Aviation Museum there,
and when I was young my winter home was about 10 minutes from
Farmingdale (Republic) Airport. All my childhood memories tend to be
filled with images of Republic Aircraft Co. airplanes....
Where on LI were you?
/J
Steve at Col-East wrote:
> Hi Bob,
>
> The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there.
>
> I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid.
> We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool
> stuff. More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real
> pioneers volunteering at the museum. In between flying as photographer
> for my dad, I had a great backgound working on aircraft and getting
> some Cub and Champ time, and other stuff. Live in Vermont now, and
> just flying Col-East's 500B, although over Christmas I did get to fly
> a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans though.....)
>
> Steve
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* BobsV35B@aol.com <mailto:BobsV35B@aol.com>
> *To:* commander-list@matronics.com
> <mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM
> *Subject:* Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
>
> Good Morning Steve,
>
> As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you
> should try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the
> Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever
> built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples
> of many other machines with which Walter was associated.
>
> Where are you located and what are you flying these days?
>
> Happy Skies,
>
> Old Bob
> AKA
> Bob Siegfried
> Ancient Aviator
> 628 West 86th Street
> Downers Grove, IL 60516
> 630 985-8502
> Stearman N3977A
> Brookeridge Air Park LL22
>
> In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
> steve2@sover.net writes:
>
> Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to
> attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job
> of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander
> list.
>
> You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship
> in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The
> Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the
> most I've done is get close to one on the ground.
>
> I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That
> was something I didn't know.
>
> Steve2
> Steve Welebny
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on
> AOL Living.
> <http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598>
>
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Good Afternoon Steve,
If you like airplane pictures, check out:
_http://beechcraftheritagemuseum.com_ (http://beechcraftheritagemuseum.com)
There is rolling bunch of photos on the home page.
One of the Twin Beeches pictured about half way through belongs to our
number three son. The N number is N929DV.
There is also an in flight shot of the Museum's early Beech Bonanza. It is
serial number D-18. I had the pleasure of flying it to Oshkosh last year with
the President of Beech flying on my right wing in a new G36 and the Chief
Financial Officer flying his model 33 on my left wing. We were the second
element in the annual Bonanzas to Oshkosh flight.
After you get done watching the slide show, look at the rest of the site!
Do Not Archive
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 12:28:04 P.M. Central Standard Time,
steve2@sover.net writes:
Hi Bob,
The Beech museum is in Tennessee? I'll make a point of getting there.
I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. We
had Lindbergh's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff. More
important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers volunteering at
the
museum.
**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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John,
My gosh, how many times I remember hearing "Northport Stacks" coming home
from the north west. Cradle of Aviation was where I volunteered as a kid.
The museum was just getting started. A lot of Fairchild and Grumman guys and
gals volunteered, and there seemed to be a running battle as to how much
each manufacturer could 'donate' the most. So much aviation history took
place there. It's such a shame so many of those old airports lost out to
development. You must remember Zahn's?My dad got his start instructing
instructing there in Cub's. We've got a chunk of the old runway
somewhere......
I still like the North Shore, though I grew up out east and spent a lot of
time on Great South Bay, around the communities of Islip. Got older and
moved to the north shore out east, but it kept developing and getting silly
expensive. Last lived in Rocky Point before moving away. Used to walk down
to the Sound most nights... Remember watching nor'easters from up on top of
the bluffs. Have sailed a few times out of Mt. Sinai Harbor.....
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
>
> Steve,
>
> Although I'm a California boy now, I grew up on Long Island. My family
> still has the summer home/private beach on the north shore, Northport. I
> go back every year. I've been to the Cradle of Aviation Museum there, and
> when I was young my winter home was about 10 minutes from Farmingdale
> (Republic) Airport. All my childhood memories tend to be filled with
> images of Republic Aircraft Co. airplanes....
>
> Where on LI were you?
>
> /J
>
> Steve at Col-East wrote:
>> Hi Bob,
>> The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there.
>> I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid.
>> We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff.
>> More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers
>> volunteering at the museum. In between flying as photographer for my dad,
>> I had a great backgound working on aircraft and getting some Cub and
>> Champ time, and other stuff. Live in Vermont now, and just flying
>> Col-East's 500B, although over Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis.
>> (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans though.....)
>> Steve
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* BobsV35B@aol.com <mailto:BobsV35B@aol.com>
>> *To:* commander-list@matronics.com
>> <mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
>>
>> Good Morning Steve,
>> As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you
>> should try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the
>> Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever
>> built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples
>> of many other machines with which Walter was associated.
>> Where are you located and what are you flying these days?
>> Happy Skies,
>>
>> Old Bob
>> AKA
>> Bob Siegfried
>> Ancient Aviator
>> 628 West 86th Street
>> Downers Grove, IL 60516
>> 630 985-8502
>> Stearman N3977A
>> Brookeridge Air Park LL22
>> In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>> steve2@sover.net writes:
>>
>> Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to
>> attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job
>> of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander
>> list.
>> You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship
>> in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The
>> Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the
>> most I've done is get close to one on the ground.
>> I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That
>> was something I didn't know.
>> Steve2
>> Steve Welebny
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on
>> AOL Living.
>>
>> <http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598>
>>
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>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
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I'm too young to remember Zahn's, I moved away from there at age 9, only
to return every summer.....but the Northport Stacks are visible across
the meadow from our house there, and there were only 3 when I was a kid
(now there are 4, but they scrapped the plan to build 2 more). I've
heard that LILCO is the most polluting utility in the US, but that might
just be some angry treehuggers complaining. I've never seen more than 2
turbines operating at any one time.
The COA Museum is a testament to why we need to protect our airports.
It's essentially still a beautiful airfield...but only the ramp and
hangar section. No runways or taxiways!
I love Long Island. Few places are as beautiful in the summer as eastern
LI. A bit of my heart will always be there, and I'm hoping to keep the
property in the family for a few more generations...or until global
warming puts the house under water ;-). For that matter, we've lost a
few decks to nor'easters. Those are storms never to be trifled with,
either in an airplane or on a boat.
I've played golf all over LI, I like the great south bay.
The ONE thing I haven't done is flown my Commander from CA to NY. One of
my goals is to do a fly-by of the beach. I've done no flying in small
aircraft on LI, and it's a shame....I bet it's beautiful. I usually go
back once in May and once in September. If I go in my airplane this
year, I might go a little later so I can head up to VT/NH for a scenic
flight when the leaves change color.
/J
Steve at Col-East wrote:
> <steve2@sover.net>
>
> John,
>
> My gosh, how many times I remember hearing "Northport Stacks" coming
> home from the north west. Cradle of Aviation was where I volunteered
> as a kid. The museum was just getting started. A lot of Fairchild and
> Grumman guys and gals volunteered, and there seemed to be a running
> battle as to how much each manufacturer could 'donate' the most. So
> much aviation history took place there. It's such a shame so many of
> those old airports lost out to development. You must remember
> Zahn's?My dad got his start instructing instructing there in Cub's.
> We've got a chunk of the old runway somewhere......
>
> I still like the North Shore, though I grew up out east and spent a
> lot of time on Great South Bay, around the communities of Islip. Got
> older and moved to the north shore out east, but it kept developing
> and getting silly expensive. Last lived in Rocky Point before moving
> away. Used to walk down to the Sound most nights... Remember watching
> nor'easters from up on top of the bluffs. Have sailed a few times out
> of Mt. Sinai Harbor.....
>
> Steve
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
> To: <commander-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
>
>
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>> Although I'm a California boy now, I grew up on Long Island. My
>> family still has the summer home/private beach on the north shore,
>> Northport. I go back every year. I've been to the Cradle of Aviation
>> Museum there, and when I was young my winter home was about 10
>> minutes from Farmingdale (Republic) Airport. All my childhood
>> memories tend to be filled with images of Republic Aircraft Co.
>> airplanes....
>>
>> Where on LI were you?
>>
>> /J
>>
>> Steve at Col-East wrote:
>>> Hi Bob,
>>> The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there.
>>> I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a
>>> kid. We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of
>>> cool stuff. More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some
>>> real pioneers volunteering at the museum. In between flying as
>>> photographer for my dad, I had a great backgound working on aircraft
>>> and getting some Cub and Champ time, and other stuff. Live in
>>> Vermont now, and just flying Col-East's 500B, although over
>>> Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1
>>> plans though.....)
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> *From:* BobsV35B@aol.com <mailto:BobsV35B@aol.com>
>>> *To:* commander-list@matronics.com
>>> <mailto:commander-list@matronics.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM
>>> *Subject:* Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
>>>
>>> Good Morning Steve,
>>> As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you
>>> should try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the
>>> Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever
>>> built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples
>>> of many other machines with which Walter was associated.
>>> Where are you located and what are you flying these days?
>>> Happy Skies,
>>>
>>> Old Bob
>>> AKA
>>> Bob Siegfried
>>> Ancient Aviator
>>> 628 West 86th Street
>>> Downers Grove, IL 60516
>>> 630 985-8502
>>> Stearman N3977A
>>> Brookeridge Air Park LL22
>>> In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
>>> steve2@sover.net writes:
>>>
>>> Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to
>>> attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job
>>> of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander
>>> list.
>>> You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship
>>> in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The
>>> Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the
>>> most I've done is get close to one on the ground.
>>> I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That
>>> was something I didn't know.
>>> Steve2
>>> Steve Welebny
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on
>>> AOL Living.
>>>
>>> <http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598>
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
>>>
>>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
>>>
>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
>>> *
>>>
>>> *
>>>
>>>
>>> *
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Old Bob,
Where can one see the time-compressed video?
Nico
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at
Col-East
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:03 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain
oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve
that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list.
You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of
the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite
of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the
ground.
I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something
I didn't know.
Steve2
Steve Welebny
----- Original Message -----
From: BobsV35B@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list,
My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve mentioned
the 40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I was replying to
that list.
Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a marvelous
project.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time,
BobsV35B@aol.com writes:
Good Morning Steve,
Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that
machine last summer.
It is even more impressive when seen in person.
_____
Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL
Living.
<http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du
ffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598>
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Commander-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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Steve, didn't you promise pictures of you and the J-3 on skis?
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at
Col-East
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:20 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Hi Bob,
The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there.
I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. We
had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff. More
important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers volunteering
at the museum. In between flying as photographer for my dad, I had a great
backgound working on aircraft and getting some Cub and Champ time, and other
stuff. Live in Vermont now, and just flying Col-East's 500B, although over
Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans
though.....)
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: BobsV35B@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Good Morning Steve,
As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you should try to
make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the Beechcraft Heritage
Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever built. Serial number one
Travel Air 1000. There a great examples of many other machines with which
Walter was associated.
Where are you located and what are you flying these days?
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time,
steve2@sover.net writes:
Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain
oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve
that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list.
You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of
the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite
of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the
ground.
I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something
I didn't know.
Steve2
Steve Welebny
_____
Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL
Living.
<http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-du
ffy/2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598>
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Commander-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
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Good Evening Nico,
It was floating around the web a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I did not
save it. If I can locate it, I will post it, but I will bet the builder has a
website. Unfortunately, I have misplaced that as well!
Happy Skies,
Do Not Archive
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 9:09:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,
nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
Old Bob,
Where can one see the time-compressed video?
Nico
**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Good Evening Once Again Nico,
I believe the timed assembly shot is on the Pemberton's website, but I can't
seem to get it to work!
Give it a try yourself at: _www.pembertonandsons.com_
(http://www.pembertonandsons.com)
Hope it works for you!
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
In a message dated 2/25/2008 9:09:44 P.M. Central Standard Time,
nico@cybersuperstore.com writes:
Old Bob,
Where can one see the time-compressed video?
Nico
**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Subject: | Info and Specs on turbine commanders |
All,
I'm looking for a good source on specs for the turbine Commanders,
681 and later. Would also be nice to have mods, and upgrade options.
I thought there was a web site, similar to aerocommander.com but I
can't find it. Also aerocommander.com has bad info, with the wrong
specs on the turbo Commanders.
Thanks for any help.
...still shopping....
Larry Olson
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I ave flown one.? Last summer I moved a Travel air 4000 from Oregon to Washington
state.? I got to fly it several additional times through the summer.? Not the
best flying old biplane I have flow?(I have flown several including a couple
UPF7s, a CK Bird and others)? The are really cool to look at.? If I could post
pix here I have some super shots flying it up the Columbia river.? jb
Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes,
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve at Col-East <steve2@sover.net>
Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 6:03 am
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain oneness,
though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain
in the ass on the Commander list.
?
You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of the Travel
Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the
old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the ground.
?
I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something I
didn't know.
?
Steve2
Steve Welebny
----- Original Message -----
From: BobsV35B@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list,
?
My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve mentioned the
40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I was replying to that
list.
?
Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a marvelous project.
?
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
?
In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, BobsV35B@aol.com
writes:
Good Morning Steve,
?
Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that machine
last summer.
?
It is even more impressive when seen in person.
Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living.
href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List
href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com
href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c
________________________________________________________________________
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Subject: | Info and Specs on turbine commanders |
Which, of course, is still on my slate to fix. I have received a lot of
information to move over to the aerocommander website, but since I am up at
4am till about 10pm, six days a week, it's not been an ideal situation to
get to fix the website. I apologize but this hectic schedule will end soon
and then I will pay attention to this.
Nico
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
asgroup@tampabay.rr.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:49 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Info and Specs on turbine commanders
All,
I'm looking for a good source on specs for the turbine Commanders,
681 and later. Would also be nice to have mods, and upgrade options.
I thought there was a web site, similar to aerocommander.com but I can't
find it. Also aerocommander.com has bad info, with the wrong specs on the
turbo Commanders.
Thanks for any help.
...still shopping....
Larry Olson
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Subject: | Re: Info and Specs on turbine commanders |
Wow Nico, the mug business must be kicking butt!!!!!
nico css wrote:
>
> Which, of course, is still on my slate to fix. I have received a lot of
> information to move over to the aerocommander website, but since I am up at
> 4am till about 10pm, six days a week, it's not been an ideal situation to
> get to fix the website. I apologize but this hectic schedule will end soon
> and then I will pay attention to this.
>
> Nico
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> asgroup@tampabay.rr.com
> Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:49 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Commander-List: Info and Specs on turbine commanders
>
>
> All,
>
> I'm looking for a good source on specs for the turbine Commanders,
> 681 and later. Would also be nice to have mods, and upgrade options.
>
> I thought there was a web site, similar to aerocommander.com but I can't
> find it. Also aerocommander.com has bad info, with the wrong specs on the
> turbo Commanders.
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> ...still shopping....
>
> Larry Olson
>
>
>
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