---------------------------------------------------------- Commander-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 02/25/08: 20 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:03 AM - Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East) 2. 05:34 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com) 3. 05:45 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com) 4. 06:03 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East) 5. 08:40 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (yourtcfg@aol.com) 6. 09:01 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com) 7. 10:27 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East) 8. 10:38 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East) 9. 10:51 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (John Vormbaum) 10. 10:57 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com) 11. 11:47 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (Steve at Col-East) 12. 12:20 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (John Vormbaum) 13. 07:08 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (nico css) 14. 07:14 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (nico css) 15. 07:16 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com) 16. 07:49 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (BobsV35B@aol.com) 17. 07:51 PM - Info and Specs on turbine commanders (asgroup@tampabay.rr.com) 18. 08:24 PM - Re: Boeing 40C (yourtcfg@aol.com) 19. 09:36 PM - Re: Info and Specs on turbine commanders (nico css) 20. 10:03 PM - Re: Info and Specs on turbine commanders (John Vormbaum) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:22 AM PST US From: "Steve at Col-East" Subject: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in Spokane? Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip file with photos on our website. Save the zip file of Boeing pics....... http://www.col-east.com/download.php (There's also a wonderful recording of big band jazz by the United States Airmen if you like that sort of stuff. That will only be up for a few more days......) Steve ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:34:36 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Morning Steve, Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that machine last summer. It is even more impressive when seen in person. Have you seen the time compressed video that shows it being assembled? Truly an awesome sight and an awesome machine. Incidentally, there is a 40B hanging in the Museum of Science And Industry right next to a Boeing 727. If you can't make it to Spokane, but do get forced into visiting mayor idiot's city, make the best of a bad situation and take the opportunity to visit the museum. They also have a beautiful example of the Travel Air Mystery Ship. That was the first airplane that Walter Beech built which was way ahead of it's time. For those of you who might wonder what business this information has on a Bonanza website, Walter Beech was one of the founders of the Travel Air Corporation. The first airplane built under the Beechcraft name was the Model 17. Why was the first effort named the Model 17? Because it was originally the Travel Air Model 17. When Curtiss Wright Corporation decided to get out of the smaller aircraft business, they shut down the Travel Air Division. Walter was President of that division and he asked permission to take the design with him to start a new corporation called Beech Aircraft Corporation. Eighteen designs later, we got the Bonanza.(That isn't precisely true because the numbers were played with along the way, but that is how the model 35 number was chosen). The last design built by the Travel Air Division of Curtiss Wright Corporation was a large open cockpit bi-plane, the Model 16. Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:04:09 A.M. Central Standard Time, steve2@sover.net writes: Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in Spokane? Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip file with photos on our website. Save the zip file of Boeing pics....... _http://www.col-east.com/download.php_ (http://www.col-east.com/download.php) (There's also a wonderful recording of big band jazz by the United States Airmen if you like that sort of stuff. That will only be up for a few more days......) Steve **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:45:40 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list, My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve mentioned the 40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I was replying to that list. Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a marvelous project. Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, BobsV35B@aol.com writes: Good Morning Steve, Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that machine last summer. It is even more impressive when seen in person. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:03:40 AM PST US From: "Steve at Col-East" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list. You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the ground. I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something I didn't know. Steve2 Steve Welebny ----- Original Message ----- From: BobsV35B@aol.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list, My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve mentioned the 40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I was replying to that list. Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a marvelous project. Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, BobsV35B@aol.com writes: Good Morning Steve, Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that machine last summer. It is even more impressive when seen in person. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:40:03 AM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C From: yourtcfg@aol.com I have sat in the pilot seat!!? It is truly a work of art.? I delivered a Murphy Moose to Libby Montana and we all stopped on the way back to look at it.? It was ready to fly, but waiting on the FAA paperwork.? jb Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in Spokane? -----Original Message----- From: Steve at Col-East Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 5:02 am Subject: Commander-List: Boeing 40C ?AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature" Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in Spokane? Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip file with photos on our website. Save the zip file of Boeing pics....... http://www.col-east.com/download.php ? (There's also a wonderful recording of big band jazz by the United States Airmen if you like that sort of stuff. That will only be up for a few more days......) ? Steve ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:01:09 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Morning Steve, As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you should try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples of many other machines with which Walter was associated. Where are you located and what are you flying these days? Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, steve2@sover.net writes: Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list. You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the ground. I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something I didn't know. Steve2 Steve Welebny **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:27:02 AM PST US From: "Steve at Col-East" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Hi Bob, The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there. I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff. More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers volunteering at the museum. In between flying as photographer for my dad, I had a great backgound working on aircraft and getting some Cub and Champ time, and other stuff. Live in Vermont now, and just flying Col-East's 500B, although over Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans though.....) Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: BobsV35B@aol.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Morning Steve, As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you should try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples of many other machines with which Walter was associated. Where are you located and what are you flying these days? Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, steve2@sover.net writes: Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list. You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the ground. I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something I didn't know. Steve2 Steve Welebny ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:38:36 AM PST US From: "Steve at Col-East" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Lucky dog! ----- Original Message ----- From: yourtcfg@aol.com To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:36 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C I have sat in the pilot seat!! It is truly a work of art. I delivered a Murphy Moose to Libby Montana and we all stopped on the way back to look at it. It was ready to fly, but waiting on the FAA paperwork. jb Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in Spokane? -----Original Message----- From: Steve at Col-East To: commander-list@matronics.com Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 5:02 am Subject: Commander-List: Boeing 40C AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature" Has anyone else seen the gorgeous Boeing 40C that was restored out in Spokane? Good grief the thing is beautiful. I've put a zip file with photos on our website. Save the zip file of Boeing pics....... http://www.col-east.com/download.php (There's also a wonderful recording of big band jazz by the United States Airmen if you like that sort of stuff. That will only be up for a few more days......) Steve ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:51:39 AM PST US From: John Vormbaum Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Steve, Although I'm a California boy now, I grew up on Long Island. My family still has the summer home/private beach on the north shore, Northport. I go back every year. I've been to the Cradle of Aviation Museum there, and when I was young my winter home was about 10 minutes from Farmingdale (Republic) Airport. All my childhood memories tend to be filled with images of Republic Aircraft Co. airplanes.... Where on LI were you? /J Steve at Col-East wrote: > Hi Bob, > > The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there. > > I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. > We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool > stuff. More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real > pioneers volunteering at the museum. In between flying as photographer > for my dad, I had a great backgound working on aircraft and getting > some Cub and Champ time, and other stuff. Live in Vermont now, and > just flying Col-East's 500B, although over Christmas I did get to fly > a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans though.....) > > Steve > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* BobsV35B@aol.com > *To:* commander-list@matronics.com > > *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM > *Subject:* Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C > > Good Morning Steve, > > As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you > should try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the > Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever > built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples > of many other machines with which Walter was associated. > > Where are you located and what are you flying these days? > > Happy Skies, > > Old Bob > AKA > Bob Siegfried > Ancient Aviator > 628 West 86th Street > Downers Grove, IL 60516 > 630 985-8502 > Stearman N3977A > Brookeridge Air Park LL22 > > In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, > steve2@sover.net writes: > > Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to > attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job > of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander > list. > > You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship > in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The > Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the > most I've done is get close to one on the ground. > > I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That > was something I didn't know. > > Steve2 > Steve Welebny > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on > AOL Living. > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * > > > * ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:57:15 AM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Afternoon Steve, If you like airplane pictures, check out: _http://beechcraftheritagemuseum.com_ (http://beechcraftheritagemuseum.com) There is rolling bunch of photos on the home page. One of the Twin Beeches pictured about half way through belongs to our number three son. The N number is N929DV. There is also an in flight shot of the Museum's early Beech Bonanza. It is serial number D-18. I had the pleasure of flying it to Oshkosh last year with the President of Beech flying on my right wing in a new G36 and the Chief Financial Officer flying his model 33 on my left wing. We were the second element in the annual Bonanzas to Oshkosh flight. After you get done watching the slide show, look at the rest of the site! Do Not Archive Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 12:28:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, steve2@sover.net writes: Hi Bob, The Beech museum is in Tennessee? I'll make a point of getting there. I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. We had Lindbergh's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff. More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers volunteering at the museum. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:47:18 AM PST US From: "Steve at Col-East" Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C John, My gosh, how many times I remember hearing "Northport Stacks" coming home from the north west. Cradle of Aviation was where I volunteered as a kid. The museum was just getting started. A lot of Fairchild and Grumman guys and gals volunteered, and there seemed to be a running battle as to how much each manufacturer could 'donate' the most. So much aviation history took place there. It's such a shame so many of those old airports lost out to development. You must remember Zahn's?My dad got his start instructing instructing there in Cub's. We've got a chunk of the old runway somewhere...... I still like the North Shore, though I grew up out east and spent a lot of time on Great South Bay, around the communities of Islip. Got older and moved to the north shore out east, but it kept developing and getting silly expensive. Last lived in Rocky Point before moving away. Used to walk down to the Sound most nights... Remember watching nor'easters from up on top of the bluffs. Have sailed a few times out of Mt. Sinai Harbor..... Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:40 PM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C > > Steve, > > Although I'm a California boy now, I grew up on Long Island. My family > still has the summer home/private beach on the north shore, Northport. I > go back every year. I've been to the Cradle of Aviation Museum there, and > when I was young my winter home was about 10 minutes from Farmingdale > (Republic) Airport. All my childhood memories tend to be filled with > images of Republic Aircraft Co. airplanes.... > > Where on LI were you? > > /J > > Steve at Col-East wrote: >> Hi Bob, >> The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there. >> I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. >> We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff. >> More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers >> volunteering at the museum. In between flying as photographer for my dad, >> I had a great backgound working on aircraft and getting some Cub and >> Champ time, and other stuff. Live in Vermont now, and just flying >> Col-East's 500B, although over Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis. >> (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans though.....) >> Steve >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* BobsV35B@aol.com >> *To:* commander-list@matronics.com >> >> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM >> *Subject:* Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C >> >> Good Morning Steve, >> As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you >> should try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the >> Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever >> built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples >> of many other machines with which Walter was associated. >> Where are you located and what are you flying these days? >> Happy Skies, >> >> Old Bob >> AKA >> Bob Siegfried >> Ancient Aviator >> 628 West 86th Street >> Downers Grove, IL 60516 >> 630 985-8502 >> Stearman N3977A >> Brookeridge Air Park LL22 >> In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, >> steve2@sover.net writes: >> >> Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to >> attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job >> of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander >> list. >> You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship >> in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The >> Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the >> most I've done is get close to one on the ground. >> I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That >> was something I didn't know. >> Steve2 >> Steve Welebny >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on >> AOL Living. >> >> >> >> * >> >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List >> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >> >> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >> * >> >> * >> >> >> * > > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 12:20:05 PM PST US From: John Vormbaum Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C I'm too young to remember Zahn's, I moved away from there at age 9, only to return every summer.....but the Northport Stacks are visible across the meadow from our house there, and there were only 3 when I was a kid (now there are 4, but they scrapped the plan to build 2 more). I've heard that LILCO is the most polluting utility in the US, but that might just be some angry treehuggers complaining. I've never seen more than 2 turbines operating at any one time. The COA Museum is a testament to why we need to protect our airports. It's essentially still a beautiful airfield...but only the ramp and hangar section. No runways or taxiways! I love Long Island. Few places are as beautiful in the summer as eastern LI. A bit of my heart will always be there, and I'm hoping to keep the property in the family for a few more generations...or until global warming puts the house under water ;-). For that matter, we've lost a few decks to nor'easters. Those are storms never to be trifled with, either in an airplane or on a boat. I've played golf all over LI, I like the great south bay. The ONE thing I haven't done is flown my Commander from CA to NY. One of my goals is to do a fly-by of the beach. I've done no flying in small aircraft on LI, and it's a shame....I bet it's beautiful. I usually go back once in May and once in September. If I go in my airplane this year, I might go a little later so I can head up to VT/NH for a scenic flight when the leaves change color. /J Steve at Col-East wrote: > > > John, > > My gosh, how many times I remember hearing "Northport Stacks" coming > home from the north west. Cradle of Aviation was where I volunteered > as a kid. The museum was just getting started. A lot of Fairchild and > Grumman guys and gals volunteered, and there seemed to be a running > battle as to how much each manufacturer could 'donate' the most. So > much aviation history took place there. It's such a shame so many of > those old airports lost out to development. You must remember > Zahn's?My dad got his start instructing instructing there in Cub's. > We've got a chunk of the old runway somewhere...... > > I still like the North Shore, though I grew up out east and spent a > lot of time on Great South Bay, around the communities of Islip. Got > older and moved to the north shore out east, but it kept developing > and getting silly expensive. Last lived in Rocky Point before moving > away. Used to walk down to the Sound most nights... Remember watching > nor'easters from up on top of the bluffs. Have sailed a few times out > of Mt. Sinai Harbor..... > > Steve > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Vormbaum" > To: > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 1:40 PM > Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C > > >> >> Steve, >> >> Although I'm a California boy now, I grew up on Long Island. My >> family still has the summer home/private beach on the north shore, >> Northport. I go back every year. I've been to the Cradle of Aviation >> Museum there, and when I was young my winter home was about 10 >> minutes from Farmingdale (Republic) Airport. All my childhood >> memories tend to be filled with images of Republic Aircraft Co. >> airplanes.... >> >> Where on LI were you? >> >> /J >> >> Steve at Col-East wrote: >>> Hi Bob, >>> The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there. >>> I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a >>> kid. We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of >>> cool stuff. More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some >>> real pioneers volunteering at the museum. In between flying as >>> photographer for my dad, I had a great backgound working on aircraft >>> and getting some Cub and Champ time, and other stuff. Live in >>> Vermont now, and just flying Col-East's 500B, although over >>> Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1 >>> plans though.....) >>> Steve >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> *From:* BobsV35B@aol.com >>> *To:* commander-list@matronics.com >>> >>> *Sent:* Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C >>> >>> Good Morning Steve, >>> As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you >>> should try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the >>> Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever >>> built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples >>> of many other machines with which Walter was associated. >>> Where are you located and what are you flying these days? >>> Happy Skies, >>> >>> Old Bob >>> AKA >>> Bob Siegfried >>> Ancient Aviator >>> 628 West 86th Street >>> Downers Grove, IL 60516 >>> 630 985-8502 >>> Stearman N3977A >>> Brookeridge Air Park LL22 >>> In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, >>> steve2@sover.net writes: >>> >>> Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to >>> attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job >>> of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander >>> list. >>> You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship >>> in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The >>> Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the >>> most I've done is get close to one on the ground. >>> I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That >>> was something I didn't know. >>> Steve2 >>> Steve Welebny >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on >>> AOL Living. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List >>> >>> href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com >>> >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c >>> * >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:27 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Old Bob, Where can one see the time-compressed video? Nico _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 6:03 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list. You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the ground. I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something I didn't know. Steve2 Steve Welebny ----- Original Message ----- From: BobsV35B@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list, My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve mentioned the 40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I was replying to that list. Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a marvelous project. Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, BobsV35B@aol.com writes: Good Morning Steve, Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that machine last summer. It is even more impressive when seen in person. _____ Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 07:14:08 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Steve, didn't you promise pictures of you and the J-3 on skis? _____ From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve at Col-East Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 10:20 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Hi Bob, The Beech museum is in Tennesee? I'll make a point of getting there. I used to volunteer at an aviation museum out on Long Island as a kid. We had Lindberg's Jenny, a Thomas Morse Scout, all sorts of cool stuff. More important maybe was rubbing shoulders with some real pioneers volunteering at the museum. In between flying as photographer for my dad, I had a great backgound working on aircraft and getting some Cub and Champ time, and other stuff. Live in Vermont now, and just flying Col-East's 500B, although over Christmas I did get to fly a J-3 on skis. (I still have my Hatz CB-1 plans though.....) Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: BobsV35B@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:56 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Morning Steve, As long as you have an interest in older flying machines, you should try to make a trip to Tullahoma, Tennessee, to visit the Beechcraft Heritage Museum. It has the very first Travel Air ever built. Serial number one Travel Air 1000. There a great examples of many other machines with which Walter was associated. Where are you located and what are you flying these days? Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 8:05:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, steve2@sover.net writes: Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list. You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the ground. I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something I didn't know. Steve2 Steve Welebny _____ Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronic s.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:16:05 PM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Evening Nico, It was floating around the web a few weeks ago. Unfortunately, I did not save it. If I can locate it, I will post it, but I will bet the builder has a website. Unfortunately, I have misplaced that as well! Happy Skies, Do Not Archive Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 9:09:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, nico@cybersuperstore.com writes: Old Bob, Where can one see the time-compressed video? Nico **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 07:49:37 PM PST US From: BobsV35B@aol.com Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Evening Once Again Nico, I believe the timed assembly shot is on the Pemberton's website, but I can't seem to get it to work! Give it a try yourself at: _www.pembertonandsons.com_ (http://www.pembertonandsons.com) Hope it works for you! Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 In a message dated 2/25/2008 9:09:44 P.M. Central Standard Time, nico@cybersuperstore.com writes: Old Bob, Where can one see the time-compressed video? Nico **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598) ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 07:51:31 PM PST US From: asgroup@tampabay.rr.com Subject: Commander-List: Info and Specs on turbine commanders All, I'm looking for a good source on specs for the turbine Commanders, 681 and later. Would also be nice to have mods, and upgrade options. I thought there was a web site, similar to aerocommander.com but I can't find it. Also aerocommander.com has bad info, with the wrong specs on the turbo Commanders. Thanks for any help. ...still shopping.... Larry Olson ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 08:24:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C From: yourtcfg@aol.com I ave flown one.? Last summer I moved a Travel air 4000 from Oregon to Washington state.? I got to fly it several additional times through the summer.? Not the best flying old biplane I have flow?(I have flown several including a couple UPF7s, a CK Bird and others)? The are really cool to look at.? If I could post pix here I have some super shots flying it up the Columbia river.? jb Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, -----Original Message----- From: Steve at Col-East Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 6:03 am Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain oneness, though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain in the ass on the Commander list. ? You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of the Travel Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the ground. ? I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something I didn't know. ? Steve2 Steve Welebny ----- Original Message ----- From: BobsV35B@aol.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:42 AM Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list, ? My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve mentioned the 40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I was replying to that list. ? Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a marvelous project. ? Happy Skies, Old Bob AKA Bob Siegfried Ancient Aviator 628 West 86th Street Downers Grove, IL 60516 630 985-8502 Stearman N3977A Brookeridge Air Park LL22 ? In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, BobsV35B@aol.com writes: Good Morning Steve, ? Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that machine last summer. ? It is even more impressive when seen in person. Delicious ideas to please the pickiest eaters. Watch the video on AOL Living. href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Commander-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 09:36:18 PM PST US From: "nico css" Subject: RE: Commander-List: Info and Specs on turbine commanders Which, of course, is still on my slate to fix. I have received a lot of information to move over to the aerocommander website, but since I am up at 4am till about 10pm, six days a week, it's not been an ideal situation to get to fix the website. I apologize but this hectic schedule will end soon and then I will pay attention to this. Nico -----Original Message----- From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of asgroup@tampabay.rr.com Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:49 PM Subject: Commander-List: Info and Specs on turbine commanders All, I'm looking for a good source on specs for the turbine Commanders, 681 and later. Would also be nice to have mods, and upgrade options. I thought there was a web site, similar to aerocommander.com but I can't find it. Also aerocommander.com has bad info, with the wrong specs on the turbo Commanders. Thanks for any help. ...still shopping.... Larry Olson ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 10:03:16 PM PST US From: John Vormbaum Subject: Re: Commander-List: Info and Specs on turbine commanders Wow Nico, the mug business must be kicking butt!!!!! nico css wrote: > > Which, of course, is still on my slate to fix. I have received a lot of > information to move over to the aerocommander website, but since I am up at > 4am till about 10pm, six days a week, it's not been an ideal situation to > get to fix the website. I apologize but this hectic schedule will end soon > and then I will pay attention to this. > > Nico > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > asgroup@tampabay.rr.com > Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 7:49 PM > To: commander-list@matronics.com > Subject: Commander-List: Info and Specs on turbine commanders > > > All, > > I'm looking for a good source on specs for the turbine Commanders, > 681 and later. Would also be nice to have mods, and upgrade options. > > I thought there was a web site, similar to aerocommander.com but I can't > find it. Also aerocommander.com has bad info, with the wrong specs on the > turbo Commanders. > > Thanks for any help. > > ...still shopping.... > > Larry Olson > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message commander-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Commander-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/commander-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/commander-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.