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1. 08:11 AM - Re: Boeing 40C (yourtcfg@aol.com)
2. 08:35 AM - Earth Quake (JTAddington)
3. 08:54 AM - Re: Earth Quake (Barry Collman)
4. 09:19 AM - Re: Earth Quake (nico css)
5. 09:29 AM - Re: 680 on e bay (Trainor, Todd (Storage Practice))
6. 09:55 AM - Re: Earth Quake (JTAddington)
7. 10:20 AM - Re: 680 on e bay (N395V)
8. 10:34 AM - Re: Re: 680 on e bay (nico css)
9. 11:23 AM - Re: 680 on e bay (WINGFLYER1@aol.com)
10. 01:01 PM - Re: Earth Quake (Andrew & Bridget Watson)
11. 01:10 PM - Re: Earth Quake (David Owens)
12. 02:01 PM - Re: Earth Quake (JTAddington)
13. 04:12 PM - Re: Earth Quake (Steve W)
14. 05:21 PM - Re: Earth Quake (Robert Feldtman)
15. 05:27 PM - Re: Re: 680 on e bay (lloyd SILVERMAN)
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It is an "Elephant Ear".? jb
'Elephant ear'
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve W <steve2@sover.net>
Sent: Tue, 26 Feb 2008 3:58 am
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
JB, I'd love to see some shots of the Travel Air. The back side of the Cascades
have some beautiful country. I'd bet some others of the group would enjoy them
too. I could receive some emails to my work address with attachments, and post
some pics to our website for a couple days.....
?
I know a number of old aircraft were great to look at, but not fly as sweet as
they looked. The 4000 would have been either an 'Elephant ear' or speedwing?
?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: yourtcfg@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
I ave flown one.? Last summer I moved a Travel air 4000 from Oregon to Washington
state.? I got to fly it several additional times through the summer.? Not the
best flying old biplane I have flow?(I have flown several including a couple
UPF7s, a CK Bird and others)? The are really cool to look at.? If I could post
pix here I have some super shots flying it up the Columbia river.? jb
Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the old bipes,
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve at Col-East <steve2@sover.net>
Sent: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 6:03 am
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Aww that's ok Bob. I guess there's several Steve 2's trying to attain oneness,
though I don't think I'm doing a very good job of it. I'm the Steve that's a pain
in the ass on the Commander list.
?
You've got good taste. I've got a picture of the Mystery Ship in front of the Travel
Air factory on my office wall. The Travel Air 4000 is my favorite of the
old bipes, though the most I've done is get close to one on the ground.
?
I was glad to read about the numbering of Beech products. That was something I
didn't know.
?
Steve2
Steve Welebny
----- Original Message -----
From: BobsV35B@aol.com
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2008 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Boeing 40C
Good Morning Steve2 and the rest of the Commander list,
?
My apologies for the previous dissertation about Beech when Steve mentioned the
40C. There is a Steve2 on the Beech List and I thought I was replying to that
list.
?
Once again, sorry for the error, but the Boeing 40C is truly a marvelous project.
?
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
628 West 86th Street
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8502
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
?
In a message dated 2/25/2008 7:35:31 A.M. Central Standard Time, BobsV35B@aol.com
writes:
Good Morning Steve,
?
Thelma Jean, Bob II, his wife Jessie, and I stopped at Spokane to see that machine
last summer.
?
It is even more impressive when seen in person.
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Barry, I saw on the news this morning that you folks had a rather large
earth quake over there. Did you have any damage where you are?
Jim Addington
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Hi Jim,
That's nice of you to enquire.
No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away,
about 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.
Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.
Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs
when it happened.
She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at
some stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.
Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything
from them.
"They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it
happens. Look as if it's true!
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: JTAddington
To: JTAddington
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Earth Quake
Barry, I saw on the news this morning that you folks had a rather
large earth quake over there. Did you have any damage where you are?
Jim Addington
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Well, if my joints can predict the weather, then I suppose a bird can
predict a tremor.
:-D
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Earth Quake
Hi Jim,
That's nice of you to enquire.
No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away, about
165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.
Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.
Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs when
it happened.
She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at some
stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.
Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything from
them.
"They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it
happens. Look as if it's true!
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: JTAddington <mailto:jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Earth Quake
Barry, I saw on the news this morning that you folks had a rather large
earth quake over there. Did you have any damage where you are?
Jim Addington
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6217D did not sell on eBay. Why do you suppose nobody wants that 680? It has
been in TAP for 3 months or so. I've heard good things about 680s, in general,
and a lot of good things about 6217D, specifically. Is he asking too much?
Is a 680 undesirable? Is there just no market for 680s? I'm not sure if I want
to offer a lower price for 17D and pay for a pre-purchase inspecition if I
am going to regret it later when I discover it is a hot potato.
Todd
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 8:06 AM
Subject: Commander-List: 680 on e bay
--> <Bearcat@bearcataviation.com>
680 on ebay
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/TWIN-COMMANDER-680_W0QQitemZ280201257300QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item280201257300
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Milt
2003 F1 Rocket
2006 Radial Rocket
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Barry, Glad to hear you are ok. That is interesting about the birds.
Jim
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry
Collman
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:54 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Earth Quake
Hi Jim,
That's nice of you to enquire.
No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away, about
165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.
Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.
Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs when
it happened.
She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at some
stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.
Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything from
them.
"They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it
happens. Look as if it's true!
Very Best Regards,
Barry
----- Original Message -----
From: JTAddington <mailto:jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:32 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Earth Quake
Barry, I saw on the news this morning that you folks had a rather large
earth quake over there. Did you have any damage where you are?
Jim Addington
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| Subject: | Re: 680 on e bay |
Probably nothing wrong with the plane. Given fuel prices twins are just not selling
period. Add to that limited to no support for the engines and airframes it
is amazing that these planes sell at any price. You really gotta love em to
own one.
Call Harry Merrit in Florida, I think he used to maintain that particular plane.
Then decide to inspect it and make the guy an offer.
--------
Milt
2003 F1 Rocket
2006 Radial Rocket
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| Subject: | Re: 680 on e bay |
That's truly a pity that circumstances make certain things obsolete.
I am a 'don't fly a single engine plane over water, mountains, or large
cities' type of guy. There is just nowhere to land if one flies over the LA
met area, for instance, and some folks had to make do with a back yard, busy
freeway or a building's roof to get down. Should one trade the safety of a
spare fan for lower costs? I don't want to.
An additional engine would certainly double the chances of an engine failure
but it certainly cuts down on the probability of an unwanted landing.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of N395V
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:18 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Re: 680 on e bay
--> <Bearcat@bearcataviation.com>
Probably nothing wrong with the plane. Given fuel prices twins are just not
selling period. Add to that limited to no support for the engines and
airframes it is amazing that these planes sell at any price. You really
gotta love em to own one.
Call Harry Merrit in Florida, I think he used to maintain that particular
plane. Then decide to inspect it and make the guy an offer.
--------
Milt
2003 F1 Rocket
2006 Radial Rocket
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=166604#166604
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| Subject: | Re: 680 on e bay |
I own a 680 and have had it for a couple of years. Its a great airplane! I
also know Harry Merritt and if Harry tells you something you can take it to the
bank.(Good Guy) Don`t think you would be sorry at all for owning a good
680,more power than you will ever want and best all around performance of ANY
twin. Gil Walker
**************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living.
(http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/
2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)
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Glad you're all OK, Barry. Birds and other animals predicting earthquakes...
there was a National Geographic/Discovery Channel program on a while ago where
a couple of theories were put forward - one that the birds and animals hear
the 'infrasound' just before the 'quake, and another that there is a tremor in
the magnetic field that precedes the shock. All very interesting; things like
this make me wonder how life could have evolved by chance. There - that should
get the list active again! :-)
Regards,
Andrew
Quoting Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>:
> Hi Jim,
>
> That's nice of you to enquire.
>
> No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away, about
> 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.
> Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.
>
> Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs when it
> happened.
> She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at some
> stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.
> Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything from
> them.
> "They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it happens.
> Look as if it's true!
>
> Very Best Regards,
> Barry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: JTAddington
> To: JTAddington
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:32 PM
> Subject: Commander-List: Earth Quake
>
>
> Barry, I saw on the news this morning that you folks had a rather large
> earth quake over there. Did you have any damage where you are?
>
> Jim Addington
>
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Andrew & Bridget... Life is no coincidence...
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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It may get things started, but I think most will agree with you.
Jim Addington
500A
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew &
Bridget Watson
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Earth Quake
<andrew.bridget@telus.net>
Glad you're all OK, Barry. Birds and other animals predicting earthquakes...
there was a National Geographic/Discovery Channel program on a while ago
where
a couple of theories were put forward - one that the birds and animals hear
the 'infrasound' just before the 'quake, and another that there is a tremor
in
the magnetic field that precedes the shock. All very interesting; things
like
this make me wonder how life could have evolved by chance. There - that
should
get the list active again! :-)
Regards,
Andrew
Quoting Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>:
> Hi Jim,
>
> That's nice of you to enquire.
>
> No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away,
about
> 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.
> Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.
>
> Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs when
it
> happened.
> She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at some
> stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.
> Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything
from
> them.
> "They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it
happens.
> Look as if it's true!
>
> Very Best Regards,
> Barry
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: JTAddington
> To: JTAddington
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:32 PM
> Subject: Commander-List: Earth Quake
>
>
> Barry, I saw on the news this morning that you folks had a rather large
> earth quake over there. Did you have any damage where you are?
>
> Jim Addington
>
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If there's a higher power guiding evolution, how do you explain professional
wrestling?
Or Milt?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "JTAddington" <jtaddington@verizon.net>
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:58 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Earth Quake
> <jtaddington@verizon.net>
>
> It may get things started, but I think most will agree with you.
> Jim Addington
> 500A
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew &
> Bridget Watson
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 2:57 PM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: Earth Quake
>
> <andrew.bridget@telus.net>
>
> Glad you're all OK, Barry. Birds and other animals predicting
> earthquakes...
>
> there was a National Geographic/Discovery Channel program on a while ago
> where
> a couple of theories were put forward - one that the birds and animals
> hear
> the 'infrasound' just before the 'quake, and another that there is a
> tremor
> in
> the magnetic field that precedes the shock. All very interesting; things
> like
> this make me wonder how life could have evolved by chance. There - that
> should
> get the list active again! :-)
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
>
> Quoting Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>:
>
>> Hi Jim,
>>
>> That's nice of you to enquire.
>>
>> No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away,
> about
>> 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.
>> Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.
>>
>> Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs
>> when
> it
>> happened.
>> She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at some
>> stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.
>> Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything
> from
>> them.
>> "They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it
> happens.
>> Look as if it's true!
>>
>> Very Best Regards,
>> Barry
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: JTAddington
>> To: JTAddington
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:32 PM
>> Subject: Commander-List: Earth Quake
>>
>>
>> Barry, I saw on the news this morning that you folks had a rather large
>> earth quake over there. Did you have any damage where you are?
>>
>> Jim Addington
>>
>
>
>
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Let's just say the evolutionists are the only ones who deny the second law
of thermodynamics. (See we are more of a physics crowd here).
i.e. they believe things evolve into more complex, arranged, better systems.
- I don't believe that. I do believe that my garage ends up dirtier and more
messed up every weekend without my input!
There is a theory about homing pigeons using magnetic flux lines to find
home (my dad use to race them). and thus birds/ migration may be related.
Certainly I could see how a tremblor, or actual quake could disrupt the
magnetic flux briefly. now that makes sense to me. But we don't understand
that any better than we do genomics (which I am working on in the carotid
bifurcation in man).
bobf
500B
On 2/27/08, Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget@telus.net> wrote:
>
> andrew.bridget@telus.net>
>
> Glad you're all OK, Barry. Birds and other animals predicting
> earthquakes...
> there was a National Geographic/Discovery Channel program on a while ago
> where
> a couple of theories were put forward - one that the birds and animals
> hear
> the 'infrasound' just before the 'quake, and another that there is a
> tremor in
> the magnetic field that precedes the shock. All very interesting; things
> like
> this make me wonder how life could have evolved by chance. There - that
> should
> get the list active again! :-)
>
> Regards,
> Andrew
>
> Quoting Barry Collman <barry.collman@air-britain.co.uk>:
>
> > Hi Jim,
> >
> > That's nice of you to enquire.
> >
> > No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away,
> about
> > 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.
> > Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.
> >
> > Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs
> when it
> > happened.
> > She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at
> some
> > stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.
> > Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything
> from
> > them.
> > "They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it
> happens.
> > Look as if it's true!
> >
> > Very Best Regards,
> > Barry
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: JTAddington
> > To: JTAddington
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 4:32 PM
> > Subject: Commander-List: Earth Quake
> >
> >
> > Barry, I saw on the news this morning that you folks had a rather
> large
> > earth quake over there. Did you have any damage where you are?
> >
> > Jim Addington
> >
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: 680 on e bay |
i owned one 28 years ago. great great aircraft, but fuel consumption
will kill you. Engines and airframe never a serious problem. hope you
hit the lottery,you'll need it. lloyd
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 10:17 AM, N395V <Bearcat@bearcataviation.com> wrote:
>
> Probably nothing wrong with the plane. Given fuel prices twins are just not selling
period. Add to that limited to no support for the engines and airframes
it is amazing that these planes sell at any price. You really gotta love em to
own one.
>
> Call Harry Merrit in Florida, I think he used to maintain that particular plane.
Then decide to inspect it and make the guy an offer.
>
> --------
> Milt
> 2003 F1 Rocket
> 2006 Radial Rocket
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=166604#166604
>
>
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LLOYD
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