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1. 05:23 AM - Re: Propeller Clamps (Harry Merritt)
2. 10:29 AM - HELP! Anybody out there? (David Owens)
3. 10:47 AM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (John Vormbaum)
4. 11:01 AM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
5. 11:03 AM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (David Owens)
6. 11:29 AM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (Steve at Col-East)
7. 12:01 PM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (mike floyd)
8. 12:07 PM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (John Vormbaum)
9. 12:08 PM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (John Vormbaum)
10. 12:40 PM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (Tom Fisher)
11. 12:47 PM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (David Owens)
12. 12:49 PM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (David Owens)
13. 12:51 PM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (David Owens)
14. 01:12 PM - Re: MIKE... HELP! Anybody out there? (David Owens)
15. 01:25 PM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (Tom Fisher)
16. 02:27 PM - Re: Re: MIKE... HELP! Anybody out there? (mike floyd)
17. 03:05 PM - Re: HELP! Anybody out there? (Steve W)
18. 09:42 PM - JOHM WAYNE (yourtcfg@aol.com)
19. 09:43 PM - Re: Re: MIKE... HELP! Anybody out there? (yourtcfg@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Propeller Clamps |
Well did the prop arrive, are you happy, I will check on the clamps and
let you know.
Harry
321 267-3141
----- Original Message -----
From: Randy Dettmer, AIA
To: Commander Chat
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:00 AM
Subject: Commander-List: Propeller Clamps
Hi Guys,
I am in need of six Propeller clamps for the props on my 680F. The
part number is Hartzell #C-1301-S. Please let me know if you can help
out. Thanks.
Randy Dettmer, AIA
680F/N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
http://www.dettmerarchitecture.com/
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| Subject: | HELP! Anybody out there? |
Hey Guys & Gals... Anyone know anything about a new replacement fuel
pump for the Janitrol heater located in the nose of the 500 series???
IS there a replacement for the old DC-3 style Weldon unit? I heard a
rumor from a guy that has O\H'ed our heater that we can route a fuel
hose off the left engine pressure guage to the existing lines in the
nose gear well, and use the existing switches and pressure device to run
the heater... Anyone ever heard of this one? Is it some sort of STC or
what? H E L P!!! Calling all cars!!!
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
David, have you checked with the guys at C&D? They have new STC'd
AD-free replacement heaters for Commanders, and may carry parts too:
http://www.aircraftheater.com/
Cheers,
/John
David Owens wrote:
> Hey Guys & Gals... Anyone know anything about a new replacement fuel
> pump for the Janitrol heater located in the nose of the 500 series???
> IS there a replacement for the old DC-3 style Weldon unit? I heard a
> rumor from a guy that has O\H'ed our heater that we can route a fuel
> hose off the left engine pressure guage to the existing lines in the
> nose gear well, and use the existing switches and pressure device to
> run the heater... Anyone ever heard of this one? Is it some sort of
> STC or what? H E L P!!! Calling all cars!!!
>
>
>
>
> David Owens
> Aerial Viewpoint
> N14AV
> AC-500A-Colemill
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | HELP! Anybody out there? |
Hey John,
Happened to be driving by the Bermuda Dunes Airport last week while down at
the Pacific Life Open, and saw a Commander tail sticking up above the fence.
Was that your plane..?? Also talked to one of the line judges at the
tournament who we know, and he had very nice things to say about your mom as
Director of Officials. 53X is still in the shop, so I had the pleasure of a
5 hour drive down to Indian Wells. Sure miss my Commander.
Randy Dettmer, AIA
680F/N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
http://www.dettmerarchitecture.com/
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Vormbaum
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:47 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: HELP! Anybody out there?
David, have you checked with the guys at C&D? They have new STC'd
AD-free replacement heaters for Commanders, and may carry parts too:
http://www.aircraftheater.com/
Cheers,
/John
David Owens wrote:
> Hey Guys & Gals... Anyone know anything about a new replacement fuel
> pump for the Janitrol heater located in the nose of the 500 series???
> IS there a replacement for the old DC-3 style Weldon unit? I heard a
> rumor from a guy that has O\H'ed our heater that we can route a fuel
> hose off the left engine pressure guage to the existing lines in the
> nose gear well, and use the existing switches and pressure device to
> run the heater... Anyone ever heard of this one? Is it some sort of
> STC or what? H E L P!!! Calling all cars!!!
>
>
> David Owens
> Aerial Viewpoint
> N14AV
> AC-500A-Colemill
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
John,
Yes, Those guys are the ones that just OH'ed our heater, as we discussed
before. I don't know all the details, but our pump assy was sent along with
the heater to be overhauled and tagged, and the guys there supposedly
seperated the pump from the motor, sending the pump body one way for a check
out or whatever they do, and the motor another direction for their
electrical checks... The motor was found to be in need of overhaul, but the
pump body could not be found anywhere. Here lies the delimma... We have the
O\H motor now, without the pump body. The heater is returned,and ready for
service, BUT no pump. ??? As is my quest for a new pump Body! Part
number Weldon 4031-A... HELP! Our Overhaul cost for the heater and the
little motor to run the pump was a little over 900 dollars... (thats less a
20% discount I guess for the loss of the pump). I have called all the
obvious places... to no avail. Thank you for your reply...
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
You need aircraft heat in Houston? Why back in the day as camerman, I
remember cans of Coke freezing in the C-180 & 206......
David, this one is obvious..... you talk yet to Aircraft Accesories of OK?
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: HELP! Anybody out there?
> <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
>
> John,
>
>
> Yes, Those guys are the ones that just OH'ed our heater, as we discussed
> before. I don't know all the details, but our pump assy was sent along
> with
> the heater to be overhauled and tagged, and the guys there supposedly
> seperated the pump from the motor, sending the pump body one way for a
> check
> out or whatever they do, and the motor another direction for their
> electrical checks... The motor was found to be in need of overhaul, but
> the
> pump body could not be found anywhere. Here lies the delimma... We have
> the
> O\H motor now, without the pump body. The heater is returned,and ready for
> service, BUT no pump. ??? As is my quest for a new pump Body! Part
> number Weldon 4031-A... HELP! Our Overhaul cost for the heater and the
> little motor to run the pump was a little over 900 dollars... (thats less
> a
> 20% discount I guess for the loss of the pump). I have called all the
> obvious places... to no avail. Thank you for your reply...
>
>
> David Owens
> Aerial Viewpoint
> N14AV
> AC-500A-Colemill
>
>
>
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| Subject: | HELP! Anybody out there? |
David here are the results from a PartsBase search maybe that will help.
Mike
Atlanta Air Exchange
GA, United States
P: 770-227-3226 F: 770-227-4073
Part Number: 4031A
Qty:
1
Alt Part Num:
CC:
AR
Description : FUEL PUMP
03/18/2008
Basiceparts.com
VT, United States
P: 802-425-5800 F: 802-425-3664
BASICePARTS Call 1-802-425-5800 We stock over 43,000 lines 225,000 line ite
ms in 24 hours ! We Ship Worldwide
Part Number: 4031A
Qty:
27
Description : IC 38510-05705BEA
CC:
OR
03/15/2008
Aircraft Accessories of Oklaho
OK, United States
P: 800-255-9924 F: 918-835-3681
Part Number: 4031-A
Qty:
1
Alt Part Num: IS13907-79587
CC:
OH
Description : METRNG PS
02/22/2008
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
Randy,
That was Randy Dunn's airplane....I was supposed to be there but my
airplane wasn't ready until the following Monday. We found a HUGE
exhaust leak that was in a totally inaccessible spot, thanks to the
rayjay turbos. Anyway, I'm flying again...
You should have called, my mom got Randy D some GREAT seats. Remember
next time (same with the SJ Open up here) so I can set you up!
I hope your props go together soon!
/J
Randy Dettmer, AIA wrote:
>
> Hey John,
> Happened to be driving by the Bermuda Dunes Airport last week while down at
> the Pacific Life Open, and saw a Commander tail sticking up above the fence.
> Was that your plane..?? Also talked to one of the line judges at the
> tournament who we know, and he had very nice things to say about your mom as
> Director of Officials. 53X is still in the shop, so I had the pleasure of a
> 5 hour drive down to Indian Wells. Sure miss my Commander.
>
> Randy Dettmer, AIA
> 680F/N6253X
>
>
> Dettmer Architecture
> 663 Hill Street, San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
> 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
> http://www.dettmerarchitecture.com/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of John Vormbaum
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 10:47 AM
> To: commander-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Commander-List: HELP! Anybody out there?
>
>
> David, have you checked with the guys at C&D? They have new STC'd
> AD-free replacement heaters for Commanders, and may carry parts too:
> http://www.aircraftheater.com/
>
> Cheers,
>
> /John
>
> David Owens wrote:
>
>> Hey Guys & Gals... Anyone know anything about a new replacement fuel
>> pump for the Janitrol heater located in the nose of the 500 series???
>> IS there a replacement for the old DC-3 style Weldon unit? I heard a
>> rumor from a guy that has O\H'ed our heater that we can route a fuel
>> hose off the left engine pressure guage to the existing lines in the
>> nose gear well, and use the existing switches and pressure device to
>> run the heater... Anyone ever heard of this one? Is it some sort of
>> STC or what? H E L P!!! Calling all cars!!!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> David Owens
>> Aerial Viewpoint
>> N14AV
>> AC-500A-Colemill
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
Sorry David, didn't realize you knew of them....I must not have read
enough of the original thread!
/J
David Owens wrote:
>
> John,
>
>
> Yes, Those guys are the ones that just OH'ed our heater, as we discussed
> before. I don't know all the details, but our pump assy was sent along with
> the heater to be overhauled and tagged, and the guys there supposedly
> seperated the pump from the motor, sending the pump body one way for a check
> out or whatever they do, and the motor another direction for their
> electrical checks... The motor was found to be in need of overhaul, but the
> pump body could not be found anywhere. Here lies the delimma... We have the
> O\H motor now, without the pump body. The heater is returned,and ready for
> service, BUT no pump. ??? As is my quest for a new pump Body! Part
> number Weldon 4031-A... HELP! Our Overhaul cost for the heater and the
> little motor to run the pump was a little over 900 dollars... (thats less a
> 20% discount I guess for the loss of the pump). I have called all the
> obvious places... to no avail. Thank you for your reply...
>
>
> David Owens
> Aerial Viewpoint
> N14AV
> AC-500A-Colemill
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
This company have shipped me three, (count them....3), heaters all of which
were meant to fit, none of which did.
They say they have the design issue resolved but I have been waiting for
months and am still waiting.
Only game in town? oh well, good luck.
Tom
C-GISS
680FLP (Mr.RPM)
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Vormbaum" <john@vormbaum.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:46 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: HELP! Anybody out there?
>
> David, have you checked with the guys at C&D? They have new STC'd AD-free
> replacement heaters for Commanders, and may carry parts too:
> http://www.aircraftheater.com/
>
> Cheers,
>
> /John
>
> David Owens wrote:
>> Hey Guys & Gals... Anyone know anything about a new replacement fuel pump
>> for the Janitrol heater located in the nose of the 500 series??? IS
>> there a replacement for the old DC-3 style Weldon unit? I heard a rumor
>> from a guy that has O\H'ed our heater that we can route a fuel hose off
>> the left engine pressure guage to the existing lines in the nose gear
>> well, and use the existing switches and pressure device to run the
>> heater... Anyone ever heard of this one? Is it some sort of STC or what?
>> H E L P!!! Calling all cars!!!
>> David Owens
>> Aerial Viewpoint
>> N14AV
>> AC-500A-Colemill
>> *
>>
>>
>> *
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
Steve...
AC of Ok had the part number listed on their site, but when I called to
confirm, the guys told me it was discontinued some years back (20 or so) and
had none, and didn't know where to find one...
As far as Houston weather, some years back in the 206 Cessna, my brother
and Uncle went out to do some custom photography at 30K feet, and they told
me when they got back, it was IFR INSIDE the cabin! Also, the controller
asked them several times to verify their alt and aircraft type... Pretty
funny.
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
MIKE!!!
Thank you for the help. I will let you know what they say right now. I
guess I need to get the info on what you used to do that... How much
money, etc. Who to call... etc. THANK YOU!
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
TOM...
I have delt with these guys for at least 10 years, and have never had any
problems... I have a new Co. I might start dealing with... CJ Aviation...
305-378-1469...
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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| Subject: | Re: MIKE... HELP! Anybody out there? |
Mike,
Called all those places... No luck. The one guy did have 27 of them in
stock, but as I suspected, they were integrated circuits... hehehe...
This must be a rare animal. Mabey thats the reason they "lost" mine...
hmmm... a new heater in the future that doesn't require the press.
relief valve... Thanks allot anyway!!!
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
Thanks, I will call them if this last one, which has yet to be shipped, does
not fit.
Tom.
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 12:48 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: HELP! Anybody out there?
> <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
>
> TOM...
>
> I have delt with these guys for at least 10 years, and have never had any
> problems... I have a new Co. I might start dealing with... CJ Aviation...
> 305-378-1469...
>
>
> David Owens
> Aerial Viewpoint
> N14AV
> AC-500A-Colemill
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: MIKE... HELP! Anybody out there? |
David,
My only other suggestion is to draft a form 337 and request a field approv
al to modify the aircraft to the configuration of say a 500B using the part
s manual as your substantiating data.
You will need the filter, hose, fittings, and shutoff valve for the heater
. Get the FAA's Instructions for continued airworthiness work sheet and fil
l it out also. Then without putting a signature on the 337 submit it to the
Feds and see what happens. Include a letter with this application saying s
omething like parts are no longer available to support your aircraft.
Good luck and hope you are not in a big hurry.
Cheers
Mike
From: dowens@aerialviewpoint.comTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: Co
mmander-List: Re: MIKE... HELP! Anybody out there?Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15
:09:07 -0600
Mike,
Called all those places... No luck. The one guy did have 27 of them in st
ock, but as I suspected, they were integrated circuits... hehehe... This mu
st be a rare animal. Mabey thats the reason they "lost" mine... hmmm... a n
ew heater in the future that doesn't require the press. relief valve... Tha
nks allot anyway!!!
David OwensAerial ViewpointN14AVAC-500A-Colemill
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| Subject: | Re: HELP! Anybody out there? |
I think the TU-206 was the worst.... When I did ride in the back of the bus
on camera, I spent a good part of the flight stuffing tissues and paper
towels into the door frame to slow the breeze down. It wasn't much warmer,
but keeps you busy. It was pretty funny stopping anywhere for gas, opening
the back cargo door and having paper towels, and pee bottles, and all sorts
of crap fall onto the ramp. Especially the time the line guys in Connecticut
brought out a little red carpet......
----- Original Message -----
From: "David Owens" <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:44 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: HELP! Anybody out there?
> <dowens@aerialviewpoint.com>
>
> Steve...
>
> AC of Ok had the part number listed on their site, but when I called to
> confirm, the guys told me it was discontinued some years back (20 or so)
> and
> had none, and didn't know where to find one...
> As far as Houston weather, some years back in the 206 Cessna, my brother
> and Uncle went out to do some custom photography at 30K feet, and they
> told
> me when they got back, it was IFR INSIDE the cabin! Also, the controller
> asked them several times to verify their alt and aircraft type... Pretty
> funny.
>
>
> David Owens
> Aerial Viewpoint
> N14AV
> AC-500A-Colemill
>
>
>
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"SIR" BARRY....
I have a guy on my airport that swears John Wayne, the great actor (and my hero)
owned a Turbo Commander, the nN number ended in JW.? He was not a pilot so he
had it flown.? Ever hear this??? jb
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| Subject: | Re: MIKE... HELP! Anybody out there? |
I believe that you could do it as a minor modification.? Several 500As were converted
to "B"s and I believe the work could be done with a logbook entry.? jb
My only other suggestion is to draft a form 337 and request a field approval to
modify the aircraft to the configuration of say a 500B using the parts manual
as your substantiating data.
-----Original Message-----
From: mike floyd <floydgm@hotmail.com>
Sent: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 2:24 pm
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Re: MIKE... HELP! Anybody out there?
David,
?My only other suggestion is to draft a form 337 and request a field approval to
modify the aircraft to the configuration of say a 500B using the parts manual
as your substantiating data.
?You will need the filter, hose, fittings, and shutoff valve for the heater. Get
the FAA's Instructions for continued airworthiness work sheet and fill it out
also. Then without putting a signature on the 337 submit it to the Feds and
see what happens. Include a letter with this application saying something like
parts are no longer available to support your aircraft.
?Good luck and hope you are not in a big hurry.
?
Cheers
Mike
From: dowens@aerialviewpoint.com
Subject: Commander-List: Re: MIKE... HELP! Anybody out there?
Mike,
?
? Called all those places... No luck. The one guy did have 27 of them in stock,
but as I suspected, they were integrated circuits... hehehe... This must be a
rare animal. Mabey thats the reason they "lost" mine... hmmm... a new heater
in the future that doesn't require the press. relief valve... Thanks allot anyway!!!
?
?
?
?
David Owens
Aerial Viewpoint
N14AV
AC-500A-Colemill
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