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1. 06:58 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (Steve at Col-East)
2. 07:16 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (Scottmain2003@aol.com)
3. 07:43 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (David Owens)
4. 07:59 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (Barry Collman)
5. 09:16 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (nico css)
6. 10:56 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (Chris)
7. 11:14 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (Chris)
8. 11:31 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (Steve at Col-East)
9. 11:50 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (Keith S. Gordon)
10. 01:12 PM - Re: Blast from the past... (Craig Kennedy)
11. 01:31 PM - Re: Blast from the past... (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
12. 01:32 PM - Re: Blast from the past... (Harry Merritt)
13. 01:52 PM - Re: Blast from the past... (Craig Kennedy)
14. 02:06 PM - Re: Blast from the past... (MASON CHEVAILLIER)
15. 03:23 PM - Re: OK, Who IS this? (dickpol)
16. 04:12 PM - Re: Re: OK, Who IS this? (=?utf-8?B?Sm9obiBWb3JtYmF1bQ==?=)
17. 04:20 PM - Re: Blast from the past... (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
18. 04:45 PM - Re: Hats (Nancy Gilliam)
19. 04:59 PM - Re: Blast from the past... (craigk391@sbcglobal.net)
20. 05:04 PM - Re: Blast from the past... (Robert S. Randazzo)
21. 05:15 PM - Re: Blast from the past... (Randy Dettmer, AIA)
22. 07:31 PM - Re: Hats (Don Girod)
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Subject: | Re: Blast from the past... |
I never thought I'd be leaping to the defense of an Aztruck after
growing up around Commanders and C-310s and C320s, etc, but I've grown
to like 'em. They fly nice, haul a load, are comfy, and way faster than
they should be. They don't need any kind of apology.
Nice paint scheme. Old round airplanes look good with vintage schemes.
And they look dorky with pointy noses.
Steve
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From: Keith S. Gordon
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Of course, it did receive the Schuermannization process.....
couldn't help it. You can see a few before and after pix at:
Chris,
First off, I am not old. I've just been 18 several times. Next,
after looking at the Schuermannization of that sweet potato with wings,
I think you would be well served by an intervention.
All that incredible effort should have gone into a Commander. ; That
would have been sane. However ...
(Nice work, by the way!)
Wing Commander Gordon
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Hi folks. speaking of vintage paint jobs on old planes, I am planning a
return to the original paint scheme as delivered on my 1955 L26A, serial number
55-4638. I have some nice info on the positioning of paint and graphics but
need the code or mix of the blue. I am under the impression it was a factory
scheme and color. Cobalt Blue was the name. I guess Ike liked the plane as Aero
Design delivered it and said leave it as it is. Hence the first Presidential
plane with the enduring Blue and White scheme we still see today. If anyone
has that info I would appreciate the help. Interior colors too.
Scott Main
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In a message dated 4/18/2008 9:59:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
steve2@sover.net writes:
I never thought I'd be leaping to the defense of an Aztruck after growing up
around Commanders and C-310s and C320s, etc, but I've grown to like 'em.
They fly nice, haul a load, are comfy, and way faster than they should be. They
don't need any kind of apology.
Nice paint scheme. Old round airplanes look good with vintage schemes. And
they look dorky with pointy noses.
Steve
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From: _Keith S. Gordon_ (mailto:cloudcraft@aol.com)
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Of course, it did receive the Schuermannization process..... couldn't help
it. You can see a few before and after pix at:
Chris,
First off, I am not old. I've just been 18 several times. Next, after
looking at the Schuermannization of that sweet potato with wings, I think you
would be well served by an intervention.
All that incredible effort should have gone into a Commander. ; That would
have been sane. However ...
(Nice work, by the way!)
Wing Commander Gordon
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Hey Chris!
Hope all's well with you... I can't believe it's been so many years since
you were here on Hooks visiting our facility. I still have your little book,
and show it to people if they have a Commander interest. Our Aztec is still
pounding away at it... We Just flew it 2 days ago. She still has the stubby
nose too! hehehe... Have a good one!
David Owens
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Subject: | Re: Blast from the past... |
Hi Scott,
I'm not sure if this helps, but the factory names for the original paint
on your 560A (L-26B) were Polar White & Baltic Blue.
As to the paint manufacturer's code or colour, I would suggest
contacting either the Wright-Patterson Museum in Dayton, Ohio or Mr Bill
Duff, at J W Duff Aircraft Co., in Denver, Colorado.
The museum has one of the two Models 680 that Ike used and Mr Duff
restored it for them.
It was in his yard for parting out when someone pointed out the
significance of the aircraft.
I seem to recall that there was a very thin Gold trim between the Blue &
White and the tin of paint cost something like $400, with only a very
small amount actually being needed!
I cannot remember if I've sent you the history of your Commander.
If not, let me know and I'll email it to you.
One question:
It was built as a Model 560A, with Lycoming GO-480-D1A engines (275hp)
and Hartzell HC-83X20-2C/8433 propellers.
However, I have reason to believe that at some stage, probably after it
was transferred from the USAF to the US Army, it was converted to a
560A(HC), with Lycoming GO-480-G1B6 engines (295hp) and Hartzell
HC-83X20-2 propellers.
>From any paperwork you have, are you able to confirm this and if so, the
date the up-grade was signed-off as being completed?
If so, is the full designation of the propeller hub Hartzell
HC-83X20-2C?
Also, which propeller blades were then installed? Were they 8833-2?
Very Best Regards,
Barry
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From: Scottmain2003@aol.com
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Hi folks. speaking of vintage paint jobs on old planes, I am planning
a return to the original paint scheme as delivered on my 1955 L26A,
serial number 55-4638. I have some nice info on the positioning of paint
and graphics but need the code or mix of the blue. I am under the
impression it was a factory scheme and color. Cobalt Blue was the name.
I guess Ike liked the plane as Aero Design delivered it and said leave
it as it is. Hence the first Presidential plane with the enduring Blue
and White scheme we still see today. If anyone has that info I would
appreciate the help. Interior colors too.
Scott Main
scottmain2003@aol.com
In a message dated 4/18/2008 9:59:02 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
steve2@sover.net writes:
I never thought I'd be leaping to the defense of an Aztruck after
growing up around Commanders and C-310s and C320s, etc, but I've grown
to like 'em. They fly nice, haul a load, are comfy, and way faster than
they should be. They don't need any kind of apology.
Nice paint scheme. Old round airplanes look good with vintage
schemes. And they look dorky with pointy noses.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: Keith S. Gordon
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:36 AM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Of course, it did receive the Schuermannization process.....
couldn't help it. You can see a few before and after pix at:
Chris,
First off, I am not old. I've just been 18 several times. Next,
after looking at the Schuermannization of that sweet potato with wings,
I think you would be well served by an intervention.
All that incredible effort should have gone into a Commander. ;
That would have been sane. However ...
(Nice work, by the way!)
Wing Commander Gordon
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Subject: | Blast from the past... |
Chris,
I didn't have as much time to work on the website as I wanted, but, yes, I
still have the keys of the kingdom, so to speak. I started revamping the
site to include a members area where members in good standing could upload
stuff for publication, such as parts for sale or to buy, information and so
on. I still have good intentions and a vision for the site and will battle
forward to make this happen.
You know all about it; getting good people to hire is a dirty-job on its
own.
Nico
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[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 4:12 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
nico css wrote:
> Well, well. It's good to hear from you again, Chris. 100 hour weeks?
> That's rough, man.
Howdy Nico! Good to see that you're still around too. Are you still
maintaining the web site? I'll have to go look at it. Havn't taken a look
in years....
Yeah, long hours seem to come with small business ownership. Strangely,
I've become a water treatment plant guru over the last decade and now find
myself fixing broken plants all over the midwest. It's turned into a pretty
lucrative business, but things only break in the middle of the night and
they're always critical. (people sure get grumpy when they have no water!)
I'd sure like to cut back on the hours, but I can't seem to find really
great people to hire.
Chris
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Subject: | Re: Blast from the past... |
Steve at Col-East wrote:
> I never thought I'd be leaping to the defense of an Aztruck after
> growing up around Commanders and C-310s and C320s, etc, but I've grown
> to like 'em. They fly nice, haul a load, are comfy, and way faster
> than they should be. They don't need any kind of apology.
>
> Nice paint scheme. Old round airplanes look good with vintage schemes.
> And they look dorky with pointy noses.
>
> Steve
It's really amazing isn't it?!? First time I saw an Aztec, I just
assumed it would fly like a lumber wagon just by the way it looks but
they really are very pleasant. Much like Commanders, the early
short-nosed versions fly a lot nicer too. Lighter in pitch and a lot
less "wobble" in bumpy air. When I had my engines built, we upgraded to
high compression cylinders. I think that gives the same configuration
(bore, stroke, compression) as the 290hp Lycs but without fuel
injection. Sure does like to climb with those fat wings and extra
power. I can count on 190-195 mph cruise under most conditions - like
you said: faster than such a stubby airplane should be.
cheers,
Chris
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Subject: | Re: Blast from the past... |
Keith S. Gordon wrote:
> *
> All that incredible effort should have gone into a Commander.
> *
To be perfectly honest Keith, when I bought this airplane, I'd just
finished several years of penniless misery paying off the huge loss
incurred after having been raped by an unscrupulous Commander dealer and
the last thing I ever wanted to see was another one. This airplane was
going to be a temporary steed bought on a budget, but I've grown to
appreciate it a lot. It's probably the last big restoration project
I'll ever do - just don't have another one in me. Besides, my wonderful
wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if
I wanted :-)
Chris
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Subject: | Re: Blast from the past... |
haha, I remember my first ride in a 'truck looking at the airspeed indicator
thinking it was busted. 190 what? This thing?
You got a real pretty airplane there.
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From: "Chris" <cschuerm@cox.net>
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:53 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
>
> Steve at Col-East wrote:
>> I never thought I'd be leaping to the defense of an Aztruck after growing
>> up around Commanders and C-310s and C320s, etc, but I've grown to like
>> 'em. They fly nice, haul a load, are comfy, and way faster than they
>> should be. They don't need any kind of apology.
>> Nice paint scheme. Old round airplanes look good with vintage schemes.
>> And they look dorky with pointy noses.
>> Steve
>
> It's really amazing isn't it?!? First time I saw an Aztec, I just assumed
> it would fly like a lumber wagon just by the way it looks but they really
> are very pleasant. Much like Commanders, the early short-nosed versions
> fly a lot nicer too. Lighter in pitch and a lot less "wobble" in bumpy
> air. When I had my engines built, we upgraded to high compression
> cylinders. I think that gives the same configuration (bore, stroke,
> compression) as the 290hp Lycs but without fuel injection. Sure does like
> to climb with those fat wings and extra power. I can count on 190-195 mph
> cruise under most conditions - like you said: faster than such a stubby
> airplane should be.
>
> cheers,
> Chris
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Blast from the past... |
Besides, my wonderful
wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if
I wanted :-)?
Then you're doomed.? But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your airplane.?
I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
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Subject: | Re: Blast from the past... |
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I recently
purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel cells, with
lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to bring the new
"baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2 engines making metal,
fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are of parts being removed
for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will not be adopting this
bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft@aol.com> wrote: Besides, my wonderful wife loves
"Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if I wanted :-)
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your
airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
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Subject: | Blast from the past... |
ck, please tell me you did not buy it from a "aircraft broker" in TN? gmc
Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...To: commander-list@matronics.comH
ello,My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I
recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel
cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to
bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home,
2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures ar
e of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife w
ill not be adopting this bird any time soon!Craig"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcr
aft@aol.com> wrote:
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed
to sell it even if I wanted :-)
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated you
r airplane. I've heard of that condition before.Wing Commander Gordon
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Subject: | Re: Blast from the past... |
I have a pair of engines for a 560F ( Last Factory Remains)
600 HRS
Harry
321 267-3141
----- Original Message -----
From: Craig Kennedy
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I
recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new
fuel cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went
to TN to bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half
way home, 2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all
the pictures are of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes
me think the wife will not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft@aol.com> wrote:
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't
be allowed to sell it even if I wanted :-)
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife
hated your airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
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Subject: | Blast from the past... |
Nope. Corporation selling their 2 planes.
MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala@msn.com> wrote: .hmmessage P { margin:0px; padding:0px
} body.hmmessage { FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY:Tahoma } ck, please tell
me you did not buy it from a "aircraft broker" in TN? gmc
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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 13:09:26 -0700
From: craigk391@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I recently
purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel cells, with
lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to bring the new
"baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2 engines making metal,
fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are of parts being removed
for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will not be adopting this
bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft@aol.com> wrote: Besides, my wonderful wife loves
"Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to sell it even if I wanted :-) Then
you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your airplane.
I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
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Subject: | Blast from the past... |
c, i am in fort worth, tx. if I can be of any help to you or your plane le
t me know. mason 680Fp.
RE: Commander-List: Blast from the past...To: commander-list@matronics.comN
ope. Corporation selling their 2 planes.MASON CHEVAILLIER <kamala@msn.com>
wrote:
ck, please tell me you did not buy it from a "aircraft broker" in TN? gmc
Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...To: commander-list@matronics.comH
ello,My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I
recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel
cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to
bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home,
2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures ar
e of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife w
ill not be adopting this bird any time soon!Craig"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcr
aft@aol.com> wrote:
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed
to sell it even if I wanted :-)
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated you
r airplane. I've heard of that condition before.Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
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Subject: | Re: OK, Who IS this? |
Hi,
I'm Dick Polits (dickpol on youtube and yahoo). My brother, Russ, and I attended
the Aero Commander gathering in Hillsboro as non-members. It was a blast to
hang out with you commander die-hards.
Our Dad owned a 680E N3820C in the late 60's and swapped it for a 680FP N233W around
the mid 70's, both purchased from Swede Ralston. Dad donated N233W to Mercy
Flights in Medford (lost his medical) just before it's demise. I lost track
of N3820C but think it found it's way to Buddy Windham. Needless to say, my
brother and I bonded with the commanders and have been following them for years.
Dad's two commader pics on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/gp/96607407@N00/90Gae6
The video began life as a 300+ slideshow of commanders mostly. Since my brother
isn't computer savy I converted it to a 35 minute video burning it to DVD for
a birthday present. Uploading the video to youtube chopped it off at 9 minutes
and 59 seconds. Not a real problem as the first 10 minutes have the best
pictures and it does get boring watching them all.
The pictures were gathered from the sources mentioned. Also, I have a program
that sucks the pictures from the rec.pictures.aviation newsgroup that I skim off
a few pics a month. Educate me if I've violated some rules in my picture acquisition
adventure.
The only flying I do is with MS Flight Sim (has commanders!) and a RC plane (non-commander).
I'm not usually chatty and like to hear what's going on in the
commander world (lurk) and love the pictures. They take me back to happy memories
of family, friends, and fun revolving around "The Commander".
Boy, I've had a great time in commanderland!
Dick Polits
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=177756#177756
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Subject: | Re: OK, Who IS this? |
See, I knew it!
Dick,
I was at the gathering in hillsboro and I remember meeting you and hearing about
your family attachment to Commanders. Nice to see you still lurk in Commanderland!
Cheers,
John
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Subject: Commander-List: Re: OK, Who IS this?
Hi,
I'm Dick Polits (dickpol on youtube and yahoo). My brother, Russ, and I attended
the Aero Commander gathering in Hillsboro as non-members. It was a blast to
hang out with you commander die-hards.
Our Dad owned a 680E N3820C in the late 60's and swapped it for a 680FP N233W around
the mid 70's, both purchased from Swede Ralston. Dad donated N233W to Mercy
Flights in Medford (lost his medical) just before it's demise. I lost track
of N3820C but think it found it's way to Buddy Windham. Needless to say, my
brother and I bonded with the commanders and have been following them for years.
Dad's two commader pics on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/gp/96607407@N00/90Gae6
The video began life as a 300+ slideshow of commanders mostly. Since my brother
isn't computer savy I converted it to a 35 minute video burning it to DVD for
a birthday present. Uploading the video to youtube chopped it off at 9 minutes
and 59 seconds. Not a real problem as the first 10 minutes have the best
pictures and it does get boring watching them all.
The pictures were gathered from the sources mentioned. Also, I have a program
that sucks the pictures from the rec.pictures.aviation newsgroup that I skim off
a few pics a month. Educate me if I've violated some rules in my picture acquisition
adventure.
The only flying I do is with MS Flight Sim (has commanders!) and a RC plane (non-commander).
I'm not usually chatty and like to hear what's going on in the
commander world (lurk) and love the pictures. They take me back to happy memories
of family, friends, and fun revolving around "The Commander".
Boy, I've had a great time in commanderland!
Dick Polits
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Two engines making metal.wow. Reminds me of the experience on my 680F.
Both engines were pressurizing the crankcase and blowing massive amounts of
oil out the breather (at the same time, 5.5 hours out of annual), with one
engine throwing a rod in flight, and the other making huge amounts of metal.
Had to overhaul both engines. I would be very interested to know what
caused both your engines to make metal.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
680F/N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I
recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel
cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to
bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2
engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are
of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will
not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft@aol.com> wrote:
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed
to sell it even if I wanted :-)
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your
airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
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My wife Nancy has a gift shop next door to the restaurant at my airport. (T
he Pilot's Wife Gift Shop) She would
be more than happy to have some Commander hats or shirts made to order if
anyone is interested.
What price range should they be in for a nice embroidered baseball cap with
the head on view and Aero
Commander over the picture??
Roland Gilliam AC 500 N6291B
From: tfisher@commandergroup.bc.caTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject:
Re: Commander-List: HatsDate: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:50:29 -0800
I have a couple signed by Bob Hoover but do not know the source for them.
Tom
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Girod
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Hats
Commanderland
When I first bought my Commander (2000) I bought some baseball type hats wi
th a head on view of a commander and the words AeroCommander written above
it I think, they had them in white and blue, several years later I order so
me more and they no longer had the picture of the plane on the hat. I real
ly would have like to had the 'bird do-do' on the bill like a Captain's hat
or military field grade or whatever.
I ordered these I believe from one of the Commander service centers.
Does anyone know where you can still order the Commander hats that have a h
ead on view of the airplane?
Don
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7 years of sitting, with I suspect a number of broken rings given the corrosion
inside the cracks.
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From: "Randy Dettmer, AIA" <rcdettmer@charter.net>
To:<commander-list@matronics.com>
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Two engines making metalwow. Reminds me of the experience on my 680F. Both engines
were pressurizing the crankcase and blowing massive amounts of oil out the
breather (at the same time, 5.5 hours out of annual), with one engine throwing
a rod in flight, and the other making huge amounts of metal. Had to overhaul
both engines. I would be very interested to know what caused both your engines
to make metal.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
680F/N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
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From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:09 PM
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I recently
purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel cells, with lots
of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to bring the new "baby"
home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2 engines making metal,
fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are of parts being removed
for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will not be adopting this bird
any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft@aol.com> wrote:
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed to
sell it even if I wanted :-)
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your airplane.
I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
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Randy-
You up and flying again yet?
Robert S. Randazzo
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Two engines making metal.wow. Reminds me of the experience on my 680F.
Both engines were pressurizing the crankcase and blowing massive amounts of
oil out the breather (at the same time, 5.5 hours out of annual), with one
engine throwing a rod in flight, and the other making huge amounts of metal.
Had to overhaul both engines. I would be very interested to know what
caused both your engines to make metal.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
680F/N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I
recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel
cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to
bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2
engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are
of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will
not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft@aol.com> wrote:
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed
to sell it even if I wanted :-)
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your
airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
_____
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Had to get new propellers (as well as new engines) so, not flying yet. JPI
engine analyzer being installed now, along with many other replaced items
(vacuum pumps, generator, hoses, etc). Hopefully, we'll be flying in
another 3 weeks.
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert S.
Randazzo
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Randy-
You up and flying again yet?
Robert S. Randazzo
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Two engines making metal.wow. Reminds me of the experience on my 680F.
Both engines were pressurizing the crankcase and blowing massive amounts of
oil out the breather (at the same time, 5.5 hours out of annual), with one
engine throwing a rod in flight, and the other making huge amounts of metal.
Had to overhaul both engines. I would be very interested to know what
caused both your engines to make metal.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
680F/N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
www.dettmerarchitecture.com
_____
From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig
Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I
recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new fuel
cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went to TN to
bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half way home, 2
engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all the pictures are
of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes me think the wife will
not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
"Keith S. Gordon" <cloudcraft@aol.com> wrote:
Besides, my wonderful wife loves "Pugly", so I probably wouldn't be allowed
to sell it even if I wanted :-)
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated your
airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
Wing Commander Gordon
Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.
_____
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Rolan;
I would like several in both white and navy blue. I would like them
in both white and navy blue, any chance we can get the 'bird do-do' on
the bill like the Captain or Field grade hats have. Just let me know
what I own you.
As I recall the white were in cotton and maybe the navy blue were in
wool, not sure, anyway they were heavier.
Depending on price, maybe six of each.
Thanks, Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Gilliam
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hats
My wife Nancy has a gift shop next door to the restaurant at my
airport. (The Pilot's Wife Gift Shop) She would
be more than happy to have some Commander hats or shirts made to
order if anyone is interested.
What price range should they be in for a nice embroidered baseball
cap with the head on view and Aero
Commander over the picture??
Roland Gilliam AC 500 N6291B
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From: tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hats
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:50:29 -0800
I have a couple signed by Bob Hoover but do not know the source
for them.
Tom
C-GISS
----- Original Message -----
From: Don Girod
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Hats
Commanderland
When I first bought my Commander (2000) I bought some baseball
type hats with a head on view of a commander and the words AeroCommander
written above it I think, they had them in white and blue, several years
later I order some more and they no longer had the picture of the plane
on the hat. I really would have like to had the 'bird do-do' on the
bill like a Captain's hat or military field grade or whatever.
I ordered these I believe from one of the Commander service
centers.
Does anyone know where you can still order the Commander hats
that have a head on view of the airplane?
Don
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