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1. 02:41 AM - Re: Hats (Nancy Gilliam)
2. 06:53 AM - Re: Hats (Tom Fisher)
3. 09:33 AM - Commander @ sunny Mexico (Octavio viveros sandoval)
4. 10:32 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (Moe-rosspistons)
5. 10:35 AM - Re: Commander @ sunny Mexico (Steve at Col-East)
6. 10:49 AM - Re: Hats (Don Girod)
7. 11:24 AM - Re: Commander @ sunny Mexico (Barry Collman)
8. 12:37 PM - Flaps Half... (Robert S. Randazzo)
9. 03:47 PM - Re: Flaps Half... (nico css)
10. 04:40 PM - Some data to Barry. (Octavio viveros sandoval)
11. 05:35 PM - Re: Flaps Half... (BillLeff1@aol.com)
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Don,
I'll get her to check it out first of the week and get back with you.
Thanks,
Roland
From: dongirod@bellsouth.netTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: Re: Co
mmander-List: HatsDate: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:30:22 -0400
Rolan;
I would like several in both white and navy blue. I would like them in bot
h white and navy blue, any chance we can get the 'bird do-do' on the bill l
ike the Captain or Field grade hats have. Just let me know what I own you.
As I recall the white were in cotton and maybe the navy blue were in wool,
not sure, anyway they were heavier.
Depending on price, maybe six of each.
Thanks, Don
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From: Nancy Gilliam
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hats
My wife Nancy has a gift shop next door to the restaurant at my airport. (T
he Pilot's Wife Gift Shop) She would be more than happy to have some Co
mmander hats or shirts made to order if anyone is interested. What price
range should they be in for a nice embroidered baseball cap with the head o
n view and Aero Commander over the picture?? Roland Gilliam AC 500 N6
291B
From: tfisher@commandergroup.bc.caTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject:
Re: Commander-List: HatsDate: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:50:29 -0800
I have a couple signed by Bob Hoover but do not know the source for them.
Tom
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From: Don Girod
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Hats
Commanderland
When I first bought my Commander (2000) I bought some baseball type hats wi
th a head on view of a commander and the words AeroCommander written above
it I think, they had them in white and blue, several years later I order so
me more and they no longer had the picture of the plane on the hat. I real
ly would have like to had the 'bird do-do' on the bill like a Captain's hat
or military field grade or whatever.
I ordered these I believe from one of the Commander service centers.
Does anyone know where you can still order the Commander hats that have a h
ead on view of the airplane?
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I would be interested in 3 or 4 hats.
Tom
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From: Nancy Gilliam
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hats
My wife Nancy has a gift shop next door to the restaurant at my
airport. (The Pilot's Wife Gift Shop) She would
be more than happy to have some Commander hats or shirts made to
order if anyone is interested.
What price range should they be in for a nice embroidered baseball cap
with the head on view and Aero
Commander over the picture??
Roland Gilliam AC 500 N6291B
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Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hats
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:50:29 -0800
I have a couple signed by Bob Hoover but do not know the source for
them.
Tom
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From: Don Girod
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Hats
Commanderland
When I first bought my Commander (2000) I bought some baseball
type hats with a head on view of a commander and the words AeroCommander
written above it I think, they had them in white and blue, several years
later I order some more and they no longer had the picture of the plane
on the hat. I really would have like to had the 'bird do-do' on the
bill like a Captain's hat or military field grade or whatever.
I ordered these I believe from one of the Commander service
centers.
Does anyone know where you can still order the Commander hats that
have a head on view of the airplane?
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Subject: | Commander @ sunny Mexico |
Hello,
My name is Octavio Viveros, I recently joined the list a few days ago. I am
amazed with the amount of knowledge you guys have. My sincere respect for
the "grey hairs". I fly an Airbus319 on the left seat for living and to get
money to maintain a 500U. Recently we have been investing a lot of time on
the commander for its annual inspection. I have been in contact with this
aircraft for the last eight years but I have owned it only since 2006.
I am trying to make up my mind between keeping the aircraft or selling it.
I just bought a new apartment because I am planning to get married soon (ga
in a wife loose an aircraft, what a bad bad business!) but that's another s
tory.
I am glad to be part of the list as the only contributor located south of t
he border. I will post a picture of my commander as soon as I find the way
to do it.
Greetings.
Octavio Viveros
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Subject: | Re: Blast from the past... |
Randy (and others),
When replacing the hoses be sure to replace the most important one on
the plane. This would be the hose that goes to the Hyd. Pressure
gageinside the plane. When I first purchased N680RR my former mechanic
was to change all of the hoses on the plane, however, he did not replace
that hose. Sometime, later it broke which ruined my favorite cowboy
boots, my girlfriend's purse, the carpet, and a large part of the
interior including the leather on some seats. Surprising how much
damage five gallons of Skydrol can do to the inside of a plane.
Regards,
Moe
N680RR
680Fp
From: Randy Dettmer, AIA
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:13 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Had to get new propellers (as well as new engines) so, not flying yet.
JPI engine analyzer being installed now, along with many other replaced
items (vacuum pumps, generator, hoses, etc). Hopefully, we'll be flying
in another 3 weeks.
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
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S. Randazzo
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 5:01 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Randy-
You up and flying again yet?
Robert S. Randazzo
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Two engines making metal.wow. Reminds me of the experience on my 680F.
Both engines were pressurizing the crankcase and blowing massive amounts
of oil out the breather (at the same time, 5.5 hours out of annual),
with one engine throwing a rod in flight, and the other making huge
amounts of metal. Had to overhaul both engines. I would be very
interested to know what caused both your engines to make metal.
Randy Dettmer, AIA, NCARB
680F/N6253X
Dettmer Architecture
663 Hill Street
San Luis Obispo, CA 93405
805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865
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Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Blast from the past...
Hello,
My name is Craig Kennedy. New here. This thread got me laughing as I
recently purchased a 65 560F. Months of supposed maintenance and new
fuel cells, with lots of pictures to show the wife on progress, I went
to TN to bring the new "baby" home. The baby is now sitting in TX, half
way home, 2 engines making metal, fuel dripping, and seeping, and all
the pictures are of parts being removed for overhaul. Something makes
me think the wife will not be adopting this bird any time soon!
Craig
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allowed to sell it even if I wanted :-)
Then you're doomed. But that's a better doomed than if your wife hated
your airplane. I've heard of that condition before.
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Subject: | Re: Commander @ sunny Mexico |
Hi Octavio. Welcome aboard. Don't be too amazed. Some of us know very
little!
Steve
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From: Octavio viveros sandoval
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:29 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Commander @ sunny Mexico
Hello,
My name is Octavio Viveros, I recently joined the list a few days ago.
I am amazed with the amount of knowledge you guys have. My sincere
respect for the "grey hairs". I fly an Airbus319 on the left seat for
living and to get money to maintain a 500U. Recently we have been
investing a lot of time on the commander for its annual inspection. I
have been in contact with this aircraft for the last eight years but I
have owned it only since 2006.
I am trying to make up my mind between keeping the aircraft or selling
it. I just bought a new apartment because I am planning to get married
soon (gain a wife loose an aircraft, what a bad bad business!) but
that's another story.
I am glad to be part of the list as the only contributor located south
of the border. I will post a picture of my commander as soon as I find
the way to do it.
Greetings.
Octavio Viveros
XA-KSK
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Thanks, Roland
Maybe when you get them you can post a picture and other maybe
interested.
Don
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From: Nancy Gilliam
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:39 AM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hats
Don,
I'll get her to check it out first of the week and get back with
you.
Thanks,
Roland
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From: dongirod@bellsouth.net
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hats
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2008 22:30:22 -0400
Rolan;
I would like several in both white and navy blue. I would like
them in both white and navy blue, any chance we can get the 'bird do-do'
on the bill like the Captain or Field grade hats have. Just let me know
what I own you.
As I recall the white were in cotton and maybe the navy blue
were in wool, not sure, anyway they were heavier.
Depending on price, maybe six of each.
Thanks, Don
----- Original Message -----
From: Nancy Gilliam
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, April 18, 2008 7:42 PM
Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hats
My wife Nancy has a gift shop next door to the restaurant at
my airport. (The Pilot's Wife Gift Shop) She would
be more than happy to have some Commander hats or shirts made
to order if anyone is interested.
What price range should they be in for a nice embroidered
baseball cap with the head on view and Aero
Commander over the picture??
Roland Gilliam AC 500 N6291B
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From: tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hats
Date: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:50:29 -0800
I have a couple signed by Bob Hoover but do not know the
source for them.
Tom
C-GISS
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From: Don Girod
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:15 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Hats
Commanderland
When I first bought my Commander (2000) I bought some
baseball type hats with a head on view of a commander and the words
AeroCommander written above it I think, they had them in white and blue,
several years later I order some more and they no longer had the picture
of the plane on the hat. I really would have like to had the 'bird
do-do' on the bill like a Captain's hat or military field grade or
whatever.
I ordered these I believe from one of the Commander
service centers.
Does anyone know where you can still order the Commander
hats that have a head on view of the airplane?
Don
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Subject: | Re: Commander @ sunny Mexico |
Hello Octavio,
Welcome on board!
I am an aviation historian, specialising in the history of each of the
Commanders ever built.
My database currently comprises over 92,500 records.
The last I knew of 500U-1668-17 was as XA-TMW, registered to Taxi Aereo
De Morelia SAdeCV., in Morelia, Michoacan.
To help keep me up-to-date, would you please be kind enough to let me
know who your Commander is now registered to, and the date of
registration.
Your help will, of course, be very much appreciated.
Best Regards,
Barry Collman
UK CommanderLand Rep.
High Wycombe, England
"Live life on the edge - if you don't take up too much space"
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From: Octavio viveros sandoval
To: commander-list@matronics.com
Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Commander @ sunny Mexico
Hello,
My name is Octavio Viveros, I recently joined the list a few days ago.
I am amazed with the amount of knowledge you guys have. My sincere
respect for the "grey hairs". I fly an Airbus319 on the left seat for
living and to get money to maintain a 500U. Recently we have been
investing a lot of time on the commander for its annual inspection. I
have been in contact with this aircraft for the last eight years but I
have owned it only since 2006.
I am trying to make up my mind between keeping the aircraft or selling
it. I just bought a new apartment because I am planning to get married
soon (gain a wife loose an aircraft, what a bad bad business!) but
that's another story.
I am glad to be part of the list as the only contributor located south
of the border. I will post a picture of my commander as soon as I find
the way to do it.
Greetings.
Octavio Viveros
XA-KSK
AC500U sn 1668-17
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Commanders-
I thought I'd run this one by the group to see if anyone has any answers- or
knows where to look for answers.
Our 685 was in California for a wing spar inspection- and upon return we
have found that the flaps will not travel beyond half while in flight. On
the ground, full range of travel is available, but no matter how slowly I
fly- they will not move beyond half travel in flight.
The hydraulic system is producing about 1100PSI and both EDPs are able to
maintain that pressure independently- so I don't think it is a system load
issue. (Gear operates fine- etc. )
This airplane does not like to slow down without the extra drag when coming
down the chute- so I'm hoping someone has some hints or pointers. My shop
hasn't found anything obvious.
Anyone have any ideas?
Robert S. Randazzo
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Robert,
I'd have two guys, one at each flap, pushing up and backwards against the
flap, simulating aerodynamic pressure, and then lower the flaps. If the
track is worn, out of alignment (if that's possible), or loose that it
prevents the flap from traveling all the way down, it might show up during
this exercise. It's a wild guess but that's what would worry me most.
Nico
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Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:34 PM
Subject: Commander-List: Flaps Half...
Commanders-
I thought I'd run this one by the group to see if anyone has any answers- or
knows where to look for answers.
Our 685 was in California for a wing spar inspection- and upon return we
have found that the flaps will not travel beyond half while in flight. On
the ground, full range of travel is available, but no matter how slowly I
fly- they will not move beyond half travel in flight.
The hydraulic system is producing about 1100PSI and both EDPs are able to
maintain that pressure independently- so I don't think it is a system load
issue. (Gear operates fine- etc. )
This airplane does not like to slow down without the extra drag when coming
down the chute- so I'm hoping someone has some hints or pointers. My shop
hasn't found anything obvious.
Anyone have any ideas?
Robert S. Randazzo
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Subject: | Some data to Barry. |
That is correct Barry, AC500U 1668-17 was registered to Taxi Aereo de Morel
ia where I used to be a shareholder untill few months ago. As a part of the
agreement I took XA-TMW and registered it under my name. The tail number t
hen changed to XB-KSK (switching from XA commercial airplane to XB private
airplane) which was assigned only a few weeks ago. Just FYI I haven't even
painted the new tail number. Right now the airplane is under annual inspect
ion where we are putting the props down to zero time, installing new turboc
hragers and couple of things more including the painting of the new tail nu
mber.
I will gladly provide you with a copy of the document where the airplane wa
s deleted from the Air Taxi fleet as well as the document that states the c
hange of owner just for your records.
I am still in the process of knowing how to use correctly the mail list wit
h out bothering you guys with heavy files, so I will be sending them direct
ly to your personal e-mail Barry.
I have located three other commanders abandoned in differenet mexican aripo
rts where I fly. I will get their serial numbers and send them to you as we
ll.
Thank you very much and nice to meet you.
Greetings.
Octavio Viveros
XB-KSK
AC500U sn 1668-17
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Subject: | Re: Flaps Half... |
Do they go to full after you land? If so, check the actuator for bypassing
do to a failed O-ring.
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