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     1. 12:24 AM - Re: Flaps Half... (Robert S. Randazzo)
     2. 04:44 AM - Re: Blast from the past... (Chris)
     3. 04:44 AM - Re: Hats (Bill Hamilton)
     4. 10:47 AM - Don Girod's commander and hat (nico css)
     5. 02:12 PM - Re: Hats (kenwhyde@aol.com)
     6. 05:29 PM - Re: Hats (Nancy Gilliam)
     7. 05:58 PM - Re: Hats (Steve)
     8. 07:23 PM - Re: Flaps Half... (yourtcfg@aol.com)
 
 
 
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      Morning, Bill!
      
      
      The flaps do go full travel as the airplane slows after landing.   (To test
      this I landed at 130knots and had my eyeballing them so he could call out
      when they started to move again.it happened around 90 knots.) 
      
      
      You happen to know of a good procedure to check the actuator for bypassing?
      Spent some time in the maintenance manual- and the only way I could envision
      was to remove and send it for overhaul.   Obviously I'd prefer to do it
      locally if possible.
      
      
      Thanks, Bill
      
      
      Robert S. Randazzo
      
      N414C
      
      
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      Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:33 PM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Flaps Half...
      
      
      Do they go to full after you land? If so, check the actuator for bypassing
      do to a failed O-ring.
      
      
      Bill Leff
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Blast from the past... | 
      
      
      dfalik@sbcglobal.net wrote:
      >
      > I still have the Apache 150s that I got my multi rating in. It is a 
      > vintage 1957 and it is a blast to fly.
      >
      
      There really should be a PA23 club, but there never will be. Near as I 
      can tell, an apache is like a fat girl. Almost everyone has had a great 
      experience with one in the past, but nobody is willing to admit it.
      
      :-)
      
      
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      Nancy,
      
      I would also like a couple of the caps, but I am in Australia.
      
      Do you have a PayPal account, or do you have a fax that I could send a Visa
      authorisation?
      
      My email is wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au
      
      Cheers,
      
      Bill Hamilton
      
      
      From: owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-commander-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig
      Kennedy
      Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 2:05 AM
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: Hats
      
      
      I would like 4.  Let me know how to pay her for them.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Craig
      
      Nancy Gilliam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      My wife Nancy has a gift shop next door to the restaurant at my airport.
      (The Pilot's Wife Gift Shop) She would 
      
      
      be more than happy to  have some Commander hats or shirts made to order if
      anyone is interested. 
      
      
      What price range should they be in for a nice embroidered baseball cap with
      the head on view and Aero 
      
      
      Commander over the picture??
      
      
      Roland Gilliam  AC 500  N6291B
      
      
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      From: tfisher@commandergroup.bc.ca
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hats
      
      I have a couple signed by Bob Hoover but do not know the source for them.
      
      Tom
      
      C-GISS
      
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      From: Don Girod <mailto:dongirod@bellsouth.net>  
      
      
      Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:15 PM
      
      Subject: Commander-List: Hats
      
      
      Commanderland
      
      
      When I first bought my Commander (2000) I bought some baseball type hats
      with a head on view of a commander and the words AeroCommander written above
      it I think, they had them in white and blue, several years later I order
      some more and they no longer had the picture of the plane on the hat.  I
      really would have like to had the 'bird do-do' on the bill like a Captain's
      hat or military field grade or whatever.
      
      
      I ordered these I believe from one of the Commander service centers.
      
      
      Does anyone know where you can still order the Commander hats that have a
      head on view of the airplane?
      
      
      Don
      
      
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| Subject:  | Don Girod's commander and hat | 
      
      Don asked me to publish this picture. 
      Here it is.
      Thanks
      Nico
      
      http://www.aerocommander.com/media/dongirod001.jpg
      
      
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      I will take 4 hats!
      
      Ken Hyde
      N47AC
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com
      Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 9:00 pm
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hats
      
      
      I would take a couple of hats. I have a 680. Gil
      
      
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      Bill, 
      
      We are working on the logo,colors, etc. Watch the list and we will get a pi
      cture of one so everyone knows
      
      what they are getting, also pricing and methods of payment.
      
      
      Thanks,
      
      Roland  and Nancy
      
      
      From: wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.auTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: R
      E: Commander-List: HatsDate: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 21:40:17 +1000
      
      
      Nancy,
      I would also like a couple of the caps, but I am in Australia.
      Do you have a PayPal account, or do you have a fax that I could send a Visa
       authorisation?
      My email is wjrhamilton@optusnet.com.au
      Cheers,
      Bill Hamilton
      
      
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      t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Craig KennedySent: Tuesday, April 22, 
      2008 2:05 AMTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Commander-List: Ha
      ts
      
      I would like 4.  Let me know how to pay her for them.Thanks,CraigNancy Gill
      iam <amg3636@hotmail.com> wrote:
      My wife Nancy has a gift shop next door to the restaurant at my airport. (T
      he Pilot's Wife Gift Shop) She would    be more than happy to  have some Co
      mmander hats or shirts made to order if anyone is interested.   What price 
      range should they be in for a nice embroidered baseball cap with the head o
      n view and Aero   Commander over the picture??   Roland Gilliam  AC 500  N6
      291B
      
      
      From: tfisher@commandergroup.bc.caTo: commander-list@matronics.comSubject: 
      Re: Commander-List: HatsDate: Sun, 13 Apr 2008 05:50:29 -0800
      
      I have a couple signed by Bob Hoover but do not know the source for them.
      
      Tom
      
      C-GISS
      
      
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      
      From: Don Girod 
      
      
      Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2008 4:15 PM
      
      Subject: Commander-List: Hats
      
      
      Commanderland
      
      
      When I first bought my Commander (2000) I bought some baseball type hats wi
      th a head on view of a commander and the words AeroCommander written above 
      it I think, they had them in white and blue, several years later I order so
      me more and they no longer had the picture of the plane on the hat.  I real
      ly would have like to had the 'bird do-do' on the bill like a Captain's hat
       or military field grade or whatever.
      
      
      I ordered these I believe from one of the Commander service centers.
      
      
      Does anyone know where you can still order the Commander hats that have a h
      ead on view of the airplane?
      
      
      Don
      
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      Roland
      
      
      Two hats for me
      
      
      Steve Gilson
      
      
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      From: kenwhyde@aol.com [mailto:kenwhyde@aol.com] 
      Sent: Tuesday, April 22, 2008 4:10 PM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hats
      
      
      I will take 4 hats!
      
      Ken Hyde
      N47AC
      
      
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      From: WINGFLYER1@aol.com
      Sent: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 9:00 pm
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Hats
      
      I would take a couple of hats. I have a 680. Gil
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Flaps Half... | 
      
      It sounds like the "O" ring in the flap actuating cylinder is bypassing flui
      d.=C2- It is an easy fix.=C2- The "O" ring is std and the labor should b
      e a couple of hours or less.=C2- jb
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Robert S. Randazzo <rsrandazzo@precisionmanuals.com>
      Sent: Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:21 am
      Subject: RE: Commander-List: Flaps Half...
      
      
      Morning, Bill!
      
      =C2-
      
      The flaps do go full travel as the airplane slows after landing. =C2-=C2
      -(To test this I landed at 130knots and had my eyeballing them so he could
       call out when they started to move againit happened around 90 knot
      s) 
      
      =C2-
      
      You happen to know of a good procedure to check the actuator for bypassing?
      =C2- Spent some time in the maintenance manual- and the only way I could e
      nvision was to remove and send it for overhaul=C2-=C2- Obviousl
      y I=99d prefer to do it locally if possible
      
      =C2-
      
      Thanks, Bill
      
      =C2-
      
      =C2-
      
      Robert S. Randazzo
      
      N414C
      
      =C2-
      
      =C2-
      
      
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      -server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of BillLeff1@aol.com
      Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 5:33 PM
      Subject: Re: Commander-List: Flaps Half...
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      Do they go to full after you land? If so, check the actuator for bypassing d
      o to a failed O-ring.
      
      
      =C2-
      
      
      Bill Leff
      
      
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      L Autos.
      
      
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